Bills' Top Five Prospects Under Age 25
I was recently asked via email which Buffalo Bills - only those under the age of 25, mind you - are the "best prospects for those of us looking past 2010," as the emailer termed it. I can only offer opinion on the matter, clearly, but given that we're in a very dry spell in the final two weeks leading up to training camp, I thought the idea was more post-worthy than email reply-worthy. Here are my thoughts on the matter for public consumption.
1. C.J. Spiller, running back. (Spiller will turn 23 on August 15.) There's only one player on this team with a skill set that makes him unique league-wide, and that's Spiller. Players with Spiller's play-making ability are hard to come by, and there are plenty of NFL teams who would give up a lot for a player of C.J.'s caliber. I feel like I've been talking Spiller up on a daily basis for weeks, but I can't understate this enough - if Spiller turns out to be anything less than a household name for general NFL fans as a Bill, it will be a disappointment.
2. Leodis McKelvin, cornerback. (McKelvin will turn 25 on September 1.) He's had a rough start to his career, but that wasn't entirely unexpected coming out of Troy and playing a difficult-to-learn position. Athletically, he has everything you look for - quick feet, fluid hips, excellent recovery speed - and he can make things happen with the ball in his hands, an under-appreciated quality in defenders. He's got elite-level ability, but needs more polish and experience to get there.
3. Aaron Maybin, outside linebacker. (Maybin turned 22 on April 6.) I realize that a lot of folks remain down on Maybin after his highly anonymous rookie season, but I remain confident in his athletic talents. I called him the "best defender not named (Aaron) Curry" prior to the 2009 NFL Draft, and I still believe that he's got the talent and potential to live up to my lofty expectations. This is another player that just needs more experience; once he stops thinking and starts reacting, his instincts, burst and length should make him a dynamic, game-changing speed rusher off the edge.
4. Marshawn Lynch, running back. (Lynch turned 24 on April 22.) Hey, whaddya know?! Yet another former first round pick! The most-tenured player on this list, Lynch obviously has his detractors, has had multiple legal issues, and made no secret his desire to be traded this off-season. But the question, after all, was which under-25 Bills were the most talented, and Lynch definitely qualifies. I don't know when or where it will happen, but if Lynch ever gets to a point where he focuses solely on football, he's got a unique running style, good vision, great competitiveness, and enough skill as a receiver to be an outstanding feature back in this league for a very long time.
5. Marcus Easley, wide receiver. (Easley will turn 23 on November 2.) No, I didn't put Easley on this list just to stop the streak of first-round picks; I just happen to think he's a better football prospect than Donte Whitner (who, believe it or not, is still under 25, even if only for another week) is. Easley is a unique case; he's got massive untapped talent, but didn't get the chance to utilize it at Connecticut until his final ten college games. In that ten-game stretch, Easley averaged 4.8 receptions, 89.3 yards and .8 touchdowns per game, utilizing his 6'2", long-armed frame and solid top-end speed to torch the Big East. Easley is a long way from being NFL-ready, but he's proven his competitive drive already, and has big-time potential as an NFL deep threat.
Note that none of these players are quarterbacks, that two are rookies (and another might as well be), and that all have been drafted by this team within the last four years. It's not too difficult to understand why the Bills won't be very good in 2010.
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I like that you put Easily on this list. The other 4 were kind of “no-brainers” but Easily could be a helluva player for us in the next year or two. I dont know what to expect from him this year, but with the lack of experience/top end talent at WR… he got a chance to do some damage for us eventually.
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Easley
I wouldn’t say Easley has more talent than the following:
Jairus Byrd
James Hardy
Steve Johnson
Andy Levitre
Shawn Nelson
Torell Troup
Donte Whitner
Eric Wood
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions
Well, I’d certainly love to hear why you’d say that. Particularly considering you included a seventh-round pick on that list.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, how can anyone compare players who have never played an NFL game. Easley can end up being a pro bowler. Give the guy a chance to prove you wrong.
by Buffalo Blakeslee on Jul 16, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well… Let’s start with the easiest
Byrd has basically flashed his potential to be an elite ball-hawking NFL safety
Levitre has shown versatility on the O-line and has already played better than average. I see him being a pro-bowl guard in the near future
Wood, as long as he can return from injury, played extremely well in his rookie campaign and could easily be our long-term solution at Center.
Others:
Hardy has all the metrics (better than Easley) 6-5, quick, big hands, he definetly has “talent” we will see if it ever materializes
Johnson was a very productive receiver at KY, when he has had the opportunity he has shown ability.
Shawn Nelson has the metrics as well to be an elite pass-receiving TE.
Whitner is a first round bust, but I would say he is more “talented” than easily based purely on moderate production.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Easley has better measurables than both Hardy and Johnson, so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. True, he’s much more raw, but there’s more raw ability to work with.
I don’t get the Whitner thing, either – you mention his production, but you haven’t even afforded Easley the opportunity to produce yet. That’s like saying Chris Kelsay is a more talented pass rusher than Aaron Maybin because he’s got 22 more sacks in his career.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Randy Moss Rookie year stats
69 Rec.
1313 yds
17 TD’s
I’m not saying Easley is going to be the next Randy Moss, but Easley can end up having one hell of a rookie year. You can’t say anything until it unfolds….all we have is opinions at this point.
by Buffalo Blakeslee on Jul 16, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, yes, this entire article is my opinion.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you, I’m talking to OH-IO
by Buffalo Blakeslee on Jul 16, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
opinion too
Since the topic of opinions popped up, I will toss mine in there too. Lynch will be at the top of that list after this coming season. He will be playing for his next contract and/or auditioning for his next team. He will stay out of trouble and lead the Bills in all purpose yards and TD’s. He has something to prove and a HUGE chip on his shoulder(I really hate that cliche’, but it works here).
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
a HUGE chip on his shoulder(I really hate that cliche’, but it works here).
Oh MRW…
And I would love for Marshawn to step up this year. Lord knows he has to deliver this year if he wants a good contract after next year. And its amazing what ‘contract years’ will do for a player.
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That's a stretch and a half.....
Considering our QB situation….
by billsfan1970 on Jul 16, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Easley
6-2
Campus: 4.43 in the 40-yard dash … 1.53 10-yard dash … 2.52 20-yard dash … 4.60 20-yard shuttle … 11.50 60-yard shuttle … 6.94 three-cone drill … 34-inch vertical jump … 10’3" broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 16 times … 32 3/4-inch arm length … 8 1/2-inch hands.
College career = 11 starts; 53 catches 997 yards, 8 TD’s
Hardy
6-5
James Hardy turned a few heads in Indianapolis by running a 4.47 40 yard dash. Hardy also did 18 reps on the bench press at the NFL Combine, showing he has the upper body strength to get off press coverage in the NFL. James Hardy had an impressive pro day in Bloomington. Hardy finally showed off his jumping ability, recording a 37 inch vertical leap.
College career = 191 catches, 2,740 yards; 36 TDs
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I’m aware of all of that. They’re very similar, in that neither is particularly quick. I think Easley has better hands and better top-end speed, as Hardy never plays fast, even during his time at Indiana.
The college comparison is faulty, too, because Easley was a walk-on that took forever to earn his way into the offensive lineup, whereas Hardy was a top-level recruit. As mentioned in the article, Easley’s production once he got into the lineup was outstanding.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
And personally… If Im putting stock into a player for the future; Both players have similar stats and body of work (compared to playing time). One was a recruit, one had to work his way on to the field as a walk on… and then produced. Ill take the one that worked his butt of for it.
And Im not trying to make this a I want Easley over Hardy thing… but with both on the team… Im guessing we see more production from Easley over the next 4 years than we do Hardy.
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because Easley was a walk-on that took forever to earn his way into the offensive lineup
Doesn’t that speak to his “talent”? Extremely “talented” players do not typically have to walk on. As you stated Hardy was a top-level recruit (aka talent).
Hardy showed a nose for scoring TD’s at Indiana against stiff competition (Big Ten) without much of a supporting cast.
I actually think both guys are pretty similar. I haven’t been extremely pleased at how Hardy has played in pads (for the reason you stated), but the “talent” is still there. This is a very fast (near 4.4 speed), huge target. He is a goal line kind of guy.
I was specifically taken exception to:
Easley has better measurables than both Hardy and Johnsonbecause I can’t think of one metric that Easley beats out Hardy, at least to the point where it is statistically significant. To me the height/size factor (large target) Hardy provides is a big plus.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hardy probably does have the most significant advantage between the two thanks to his height, but I think Easley is a more naturally gifted receiver. Both have potential. But I like Easley’s long speed and lower body a lot more than I like Hardy’s height.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. I just don’t see what Easely brings to the table that makes him very “talented”. I don’t think I have seen enough of him to truly gauge his instincts at WR.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I do...in terms of this statement...
I just don’t see what Easely brings to the table that makes him very "talented".
His natural run-after-catch ability is what stands out to me…I like Hardy’s height, Steve’s separation, and Easley’s RAC potential…it just screams A. Boldin to me
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nelson
I think Nelson most def needs to be on here. Shawn is rare athlete for his postion (4.57 forty are you kidding me) and to boot, he has excellent hands. He catches bad passes as well as I’ve seen any tightend. I expect a huge year from shawn, especially working the slot.
I don’t think Nelson’s athletic talents are “rare,” but they’re certainly good. My concern is whether or not he “gets it” – mentally, I don’t think he’s anywhere close to being ready to contribute.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Where does that come from?
Nelson looked good when not injured. I am beginning to think that his migraines were coaching induced.
In another brilliant marketing coup, Russ Brandon has made KoolAid the official drink of the Bills and will replace pop and beer at the concessions stands. Brandon explained the move saying,"Fans are not drinking enough of it on their own". Nix’s seemed unaffected by the negative fan reaction, "I don’t give two shakes of piss what they want to drink….It is the only way fans are going to leave happy cuz we ain’t going to be winning a whole lota games…..don’t tell season ticket holders I said that".
It’s not the migraines, it’s just things I’ve heard, plus a little gut. I’m not down on him or anything, I just won’t rave about his future like I will these five guys.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!!!!!
that’s where mine have come from through the DJ years!!!! Thanks Joe!!! I can now, quit seeing that doc, and the shrink he recommended!!!
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
Glad to help out.....might want to keep the doc's number just in case.
In another brilliant marketing coup, Russ Brandon has made KoolAid the official drink of the Bills and will replace pop and beer at the concessions stands. Brandon explained the move saying,"Fans are not drinking enough of it on their own". Nix’s seemed unaffected by the negative fan reaction, "I don’t give two shakes of piss what they want to drink….It is the only way fans are going to leave happy cuz we ain’t going to be winning a whole lota games…..don’t tell season ticket holders I said that".
It’s tough to find a tight end that runs under 4.6, that is 6’5" 245 pounds. That is rare, add in great hands with a fantastic catching radius, I most certainly think he’s a talent. If migranes don’t limit his play, Nelson will be a beast this years. You are right though that mentaly he may not get it but he just may be a prima dona. And I’m with that.
Nelson doesn’t play as fast as he times, though. That’s the problem. He plays fast, just not rare fast.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that had more to do with "thinking"...
he was plenty fast when he as running into the end zone in the Pats game, he was very fast when he didn’t have the ball and he was runnign down the sidelines following Freddy looking for someone to hit…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 16, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that
I haven’t seen that demeanor that all the potential greats have. Let’s hope that that was because he was a rookie last year. He looked like just another guy last year and never flashed his supposed top athletic ability…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
well there arent any qbs because only brohm and levi brown are younger than 25….considering that, i’m not sure how not having one on this list under 25 shows the bills will be bad in 2010….i think its the fact that if you extended it to top 10 players under 30, there still might not be any on that list
and yea, i think nelson, wood, levitre and especially byrd could all be argued for ahead of easley….unless you are ranking guys that arent clear cut starters at their respective positions, then i think it could be a toss up between johnson and easley
Whether or not a player starts is irrelevant. “Prospect” sort of encapsulates natural ability, potential and attitude all into one little ball of projection. Byrd was a very close sixth on my list (and Whitner wasn’t far behind, either), but guys like Wood, Levitre, Nelson, Hardy, Johnson, Troup – they weren’t really considerations.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It seems like by talent you mean...
raw athletic ability, which makes me agree with your picks. But if you extend ‘talent’ to mean a combination of physical and mental skills, I can’t see how Jairus Byrd doesn’t make the list.
Unless it was a fluke, he’s got elite level instincts. Not elite for a rookie, but elite for the league. And, since the team drafted him to play centerfield and be a ball hawk, and that’s precisely what he did and was.. that. to me, suggests that it wasn’t a fluke.
He’s got above average instincts, and elite-level ball skills. But he’s way too one-dimensional to ever truly dominate at his position, which does not speak at all to the fact that he’s lining himself up to have a good, long, very productive career.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
tackling can be coached...
ball skills cannot, but neither can the “desire” to stick your head in there…which is what I believe he is lacking right now…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 16, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Won’t be good in 2010? Come on man…at least give it one game.
by Buffalo Mo on Jul 16, 2010 8:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
When someone says, “The food there wasn’t very good” generally I take that as the food is crappy. Either way, they could still be “very good.”
by Buffalo Mo on Jul 16, 2010 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this year is a year for the die hard – we will be in more games than a lot of us think – but watching some of these guys grow into NFL players will surely make the posters here giddy for next season
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 16, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Prospects
I would define an NFL prospect as a player who has a realistic chance to develop into a perennial ALL-Pro contende (ie- prospecting for gold)r. Obviously, this is subjective, but I don’t see many players on this team’s roster that fit that description. Like any sport (or when you make a big purchase), prospects have more “value” before they are driven off the lot. Thus, I would submit my prospect list as:
1. CJ Spiller
2. Jairus Byrd
3. Andy Levitre
4. Eric Wood
5. Torrell Troup
6. Alex Carrington
7. Marcus Easley
8. Shawn Nelson
…I see no one else I’d call a “prospect” from my viewpoint.
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Haha
I won’t go that far. I’d still label Maybin a prospect even though I have little hope for him. And McKelvin would certainly be on there. He is, after all, still a player who’s only started 9 games, less than Byrd, Levitre, Wood and Nelson. I understand not seeing Maybin on here, but why no Leo?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Re: McKelvin
I doubt he’s a prospect at this point in the way that I’d describe one. I thought he looked bad in the defensive backfield throughout his rookie year and 2009 cameo and now he’s coming off an injury. That combination leads me to downgrade my prognosis of his future. Could it he turn it around? Sure. But as a gambler, I’d bet heavy on marginal starter for Leodis McKelvin based on what I’ve seen.
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Troup...
Very good list and I’ll add Troup, who was a very unselfish bull of a player at UCF that didn’t mind doing the grunt work. As we all know the key to the 3-4 is a NT that can control the middle, Troup has the physical tools and the mental diligence to be the Bills next great NT——I look for great things from this player.
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-- Salvador Dali
I can’t put Troup near this list because I, and I suspect most other here, don’t really have a grasp on him. Lane clogging D tackles are already hard to “know” and project because they play such an unheralded position, that gets little attention from non-scouts. Pair that with the fact he comes from Central Florida – a relatively unknown team with below average competition, and you get a completely unknown commodity (save for his well documented upstanding character). Don’t get me wrong, i’m excited about Troup, but only because i’m inclined to trust Nix’s judgment and scouting ability, not because I know his playing style. I’ll wrap this up and say that if he were drafted in the 4th, no one would be expecting much out of him this year, let alone considering him for Brian’s list.
Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.
troup
yea i agree with you the nt position this year will be very key to the transition from 4-3 to 3-4
Limitations of offensive players
There certainly is some decent talent on the offensive side of the ball, but our QB and o-line situation is so poor that it mitigates the potential. The Bills turned TO into an 800 yard receiver last year! The defensive talent has a better chance to shine because there aren"t as many holes to fill. What would Evans & Nelson do with simply average players around them?
I wouldn't have Lynch or Easley on there....
and Maybin would be down the list.
If we are talking about players with big time potential for beyond 2010, why is Lynch on here? It’s extremely hard to envision him on the roster in 2011 or being a guy the front office plans to have around as a building block. I also don’t think he’s a better prospect than a handful of guys not mentioned. And why do you think he has good vision? I think he has terrible vision and that’s one of the major reasons he’s been a seemingly average RB in the NFL. He just doesn’t spot the hole quickly at all. How many times have we seen Lynch completely miss the open cutback lanes? I think this is one area that has really held him back.
I’ve said it many times before, but I don’t see the potential in Maybin that others see. He looked overwhelmed physically last year, but more importantly just didn’t look good enough or quick enough to be a big time factor in this league. I’m just hoping I’m wrong. He wouldn’t crack my top 5.
Easley may have good athleticism, but he’s very raw, which would have me bump him down a bit. He’s a nice prospect, but with all the work that he needs to do, I’m not sure he’s a better one than other Bills.
I would have Wood and Levitre on here. I think both have Pro Bowl potential and can be anchors for this OL for a long time. They don’t play glamour positions, but they are both already good players with room to become great ones.
I think I’d put Byrd in the top 5 too. He’s already an elite ball hawk, but needs to really improve his run support and recognition skills, two areas that he can make adjustments. He’s not a great athlete and his ceiling is only so high, but if we’re talking about players who are going to be a big part of this team going forward, Byrd is definitely one of them.
Troup, Carrington and maybe Nelson are all worthy of discussion too.
One good thing is we’re seeing a bunch of names being thrown around. Let’s hope many of these guys can come close to reaching their potential, because a lot of these guys seem to have a bright future.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 16, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I would have Wood and Levitre on here. I think both have Pro Bowl potential and can be anchors for this OL for a long time. They don’t play glamour positions, but they are both already good players with room to become great ones.
I agree, Brian, what was your rationale for leaving these guys off the list? O-line not sexy enough?
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Thought you wrote 8 td’s per for a second there! (haven’t had coffee yet)I would love any of these players to break out this year, but I don’t know about Lynch. With this much of a loaded back field, how in the world do you distribute the ball?! What a great problem to have!
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jul 16, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
OK, so holy crap, I’ve had five different emails today asking why I didn’t put Jairus Byrd on this list. Might as well put it out there here, too (though I think I did it earlier in the comments, too).
Byrd is elite in one area: ball skills. He’s also got good range and above average instincts. He has the makings of a very fine coverage safety. But as a prospect, his size and abilities against the run leave me wanting just enough to leave him off the list. I do not think Byrd will ever be truly elite, but he’s got a shot at a very long, very productive, very good career. I just don’t think he’ll ever be considered one of the best safeties in the game. The five guys on this list? They have that type of potential.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
May as well keep this going to address some of the other responses I’ve gotten:
“Why no Levitre?” – Nothing about the guy stands out. I’ve gone on record as saying that I think Levitre’s going to be a very good guard for a very long time, but he was never an elite prospect. There’s a difference.
“Why no Wood?” – Similar to Levitre, except for two key differences: Wood’s still out of position, and he has a unique character trait (leadership ability). I like Wood just fine, and seriously considered him for the list, but again, there’s nothing that stands out about the guy on the field of play, save that he is SUPER intense. Again, I think he’ll be good for a long time, and should be even better when he finally makes it back to center.
“Why no Troup?” – A lot of emphasis is placed on good nose tackles in the 3-4, and I think Troup will be a solid, dependable player at that position in due time. But he won’t require double-teams and doesn’t possess unique abilities other than the fact that he’s brutally strong. There’s a theme here – call it “the complete package,” with a dash of unique abilities – that I’m trying to highlight in this piece, and while I like all these young guys just fine, they just don’t have everything you see in the elite at their positions.
“Why no Nelson?” – I thought he was a tremendous value selection a year ago, and I think his potential is excellent. I just don’t think it’s as excellent as Easley’s.
“Easley? Really?!” – I don’t really know how to respond, other than to say “yes.” He’s on the list, after all. :)
“Why does Lynch count if he’s not going to be here?” – A fair question. I read the question from the original emailer as the under-25 players that I thought had the potential to be the best football players; I didn’t even factor that in when putting Lynch on the list.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you are saying
Is you have an enormous man crush on Easley?
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m rather smitten with his potential, yes.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're right
Or I hope Jason is right about Hardy (although I have my reservations on him personally). Someone has got to step up at WR#2. I like Scuba Steve as a prospect the most myself, but I really don’t care who it is. Someone @ QB has to step up first either way. Again, don’t really care who it is, just make it so!
Re:
Just a question about your opinion…I don’t think there’s a definitive answer…
Don’t you think actual NFL experience is a better predictor of future success than pre-draft grades and measurables? I understand this list needs to combine a little of both, but Byrd, Levitre, and Wood have looked like above average NFL players against actual NLF competition. I think that bodes well for their prognosis compared to a guy like Maybin who looked like a fan who wandered down from the stands last season- regardless of his combine measurables.
I realize i will never be on the same page with the draftnik crowd in that I think 80% of is fluff, but leaving ogff a player like Byrd who excelled as a rookie and a player like Levitre who looked legitimate simply because of pre-draft grades seems bizarre to me…as for Maybin, I’d bet the house that he doesn’t finish his rookie contract, combine stats or otherwise.
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by Port Royal on Jul 16, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s certainly a factor – it’s part of the reason I included Lynch, for instance – but it doesn’t tell the whole story. “Prospect” inherently includes things like ceilings, raw talent and potential, but yes, how they’ve played is a factor.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 16, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we this is in the realm of more talent/potential… Kind of who could be the next pro bowl, HOF’er, etc.
But to me, for those reasons, Wood and Byrd, would be my safe picks for the top 5.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 16, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
May as well keep this going to address some of the other responses I’ve gotten:
I don’t understand – people email you comments/questions instead of posting? why would that be….? isn’t the whole idea of a blog the ability to converse with you and others in an open forum?
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 16, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Thats a good question. Sounds like some “back door” communication happening here! :)
by buffalobacker on Jul 16, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It really doesn't matter until the clock starts
Jeez people. We could get in a tizzy arguing about potentials we have no idea about yet, chances for this and chances for that, or we could just make our cases and then admit that we don’t yet know. I’ve got an opinion like anybody else, it just seems so silly to be so insistent about something like Levitre vs. Wood or Marcus Easley vs. Steve Johnson. But if you want to go back and forth, using up brain cells on this stuff, I guess you’re welcome to it.
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Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
by Dyl on Jul 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That’s kind of how I see it too. There isn’t enough to go on with some of these guys to really have any kind of opinion on anything. For all we know (and heaven forbid) any one of these guys’ careers could end the first time they step on the field. It makes for a fun read, but at the end of the day nobody can be more right than the next guy when discussing a topic like this.
by billskk69 on Jul 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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