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Worse than last year?



I've heard this over and over, from the "experts" to our own fans (which is sad). "The Bills will be terrible", "It's about time they sank to the bottom", "Number one overall pick", etc. Sorry doubters, but it won't happen.

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  • One of the main complaints is that we don't have a quarterback, so obviously we're doomed. Last I checked, we haven't had a quarterback that could be considered anything more than serviceable in the last five years.

Season(s)                  Quarterback(s) 
2009                             Ryan Fitzpatrick / Trent Edwards / Brian Brohm
2008                             Trent Edwards / J.P. Losman
2007                             Trent Edwards / J.P. Losman
2006                             J.P. Losman
2005                             J.P. Losman / Kelly Holcomb

Prior to the '05 season, we suffered held our breath through three years of Drew Bledsoe, hoping he would right the ship. Unfortunately, there was a reason he was only here for three years.

So what if we don't have a great quarterback this year; We've had decent seasons with the same quarterbacks that people say are now worthless as starters. At quarterback, we've maintained status quo (or improved if Brohm surprises us all and wins the starting job convincingly).

  • Quarterback is closely followed by left tackle. "Demetrius Bell is awful." "Who is Jamon Meredith?" You guys have lost any spark of optimism. While I know that some are high on Bell, Meredith, or both (like myself), most aren't convinced and are already placing bets on how many sacks our quarterback(s) will take this year.

Has our left tackle position, or the entire offensive line in general (because talking about the LT always leads to the line) taken a step back, somehow, this offseason? I can't agree with that. Not only was our line the greenest in the NFL last year, it was also the most varied, as the Bills fielded 11 starters within 9 different starting line combinations (over half the season). That's nowhere near enough time for a line to jell and gain functional experience, not to mention the league's youngest starting offensive line.

Forget the fact that Brad Butler retired. While Cornell Green may have an affinity for the color yellow, he's every bit as talented as Butler was, and I mean that strictly athletically. Throw in the fact that Green has more than double Butler's experience and we're breaking even, to be conservative. With the rest of the line gaining a full year of experience, and being afforded a whole offseason to work together, they might not be the lead weights that many expect them to be. At left tackle / offensive line, we've improved.

  • The pass rush is nonexistent.

I'm not going to lie here - this really is the one portion of the team that is a true unknown. While the stats (or lack thereof) are a terrifying sight, it's not time to hit the panic button.

Edwards has coached in 3-4 defenses for a few years now, having been on board for Miami's crossover from the 4-3. He not only has a good knowledge of the defense, but he also has a good knowledge of how to transition to it, which is invaluable for the 2010 Bills team.

Aaron Maybin has the potential to be an absolute star in this defense. I know I'm just repeating what's been said before, but I believe it. Maybin was a player that many projected to 3-4 outside linebacker when he came out of college, but with Jauron & Co. desperately trying to find that shimmer of star power, they drafted the ridiculously undersized Maybin to play right end. As a natural pass rusher, he should get a lot of chances to show off the talent that made him a first round prospect in the first place. Add in a promising rookie named Danny Batten and veteran Chris Kelsay (who is an intelligent and hard working player, no matter how you slice it.......sorry Kurupt), and at the very least, the Bills can make their pass rush serviceable.

Every year we complain about the pass rush and it's lack of production. If we can get the same production this year as we have the last few years, that's a victory in it's own right. Every offseason we hope to address the problem. Now, it's happening, and the defense is taking steps in the right direction. In the pass rush, we've maintained status quo.

  • Addition by subtraction? (I don't even need to discuss Jauron here).

A lot of fans are pretty upset that T.O. was one and done. I'm sorry, but I really don't share your disappointment.

T.O. was one of the biggest bums I've ever seen play for the Bills. It's really too bad, because of the fact that he is such a star as a football player. He was the classic case of an athlete with an ego too big for his game. The Bills weren't playing good enough to meet his standards, so why should he give maximum effort? Too many times did I see him give up on routes, jog when he should have sprinted, or play pattycake with defenders. I can't count how many times I felt the need to choke the guy through the TV because he would jog up to a defender, give him a couple casual pops, and then let him go. The worst part of this is the fact that half the time, T.O.'s defender would go make the tackle! In trimming their roster, the Bills have improved.

  • More conventionally, addition by, well, addition?

Again, I heard a lot of complaints about the Bills' head coach hire, Chan Gailey. Yeah, he's not Cowher or Shanahan, but he's every bit as welcome to me.

Gailey brings in a proven track record for conducting an offensive attack. While he's only been a head coach for four years at the NFL level, he went to the playoffs twice, both in his two year stint in Dallas. Jerry Jones, to this day, still regrets not giving Gailey more time to settle in with his team.

Team Ranks in various categories, Lower ALWAYS indicates better performance.

OverallOffenseRushing OffPassing OffDefenseRushing DefPassing Def
YearTmTmsWL%T/GPts±Yds±YdsPtsGvAAttYdsTDY/AFLAttYdsTDIntNY/AYdsPtsTkAAttYdsTDY/AFRAttYdsTDIntnY/A
1998 DAL 30 8 3 6 11 8 9 1 6 8 2 14 5 26 9 20 1 5 18 3 19 8 12 10 17 13 24 22 11 19 21
1999 DAL 31 12 6 5 9 16 11 5 6 6 5 8 8 26 24 17 2 16 9 5 10 13 6 2 4 25 16 13 7 6 15
2 yrs %tile 71 89 85 70 64 71 94 84 80 92 67 82 18 50 43 98 69 59 90 55 69 74 83 68 41 37 46 74 62 44

 

Let's focus in on Gailey's two years in Dallas, because there's a few stats that I would really like to highlight.

First off, let's look at the overall. In '98 and '99, Dallas ranked 3rd and 6th, respectively. That must mean the offense was darn good at hanging onto the ball. Sure enough, if you look at the offense, the '98 and '99 teams were 1st and 5th, respectively, in giveaways. More importantly, his passing offenses ranked 1st in interceptions in '98 and 2nd in '99. This could spell the end of the road for our overly charitable quarterbacks. (Stats courtesy of pro-football-reference.com). Within the coaching staff, we've drastically improved.

  • We have a lot of constants on our team that we seem to overlook whenever the negatives are addressed. The secondary will still cause opponents to gameplan for us every week, and even then, they'll still get their picks. The runningbacks will still rush for 1,000+ yards, a total that will only increase with offensive dynamo C.J. Spiller now in the fold. The ever-forgotten special teams will still pin opponents back, take away field position, and score those points that the offense couldn't. On the rest of the roster, we've maintained status quo or improved.

Case and point: The Bills will not fall to the bottom of the barrel this year. We have a lot more talent than we are given credit for, and our so called "question marks" are either resolved or are the same ones we've had for years now.

Come on now, are we really worse than the Raiders, Lions, Buccaneers, Chiefs, and Rams?

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Took the words out of my mouth

I agree with absolutely everything you said. Great post, thorough and well reasoned. IF we can avoid injuries this year (which is also be aided by our new staff) then I don’t see how we can finish below .500. We were only 2 games below that last year with so many issues it was almost mind boggling. Again, great post and rec’d!

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by TexasBillsFanatic on Jul 17, 2010 5:47 AM EDT reply actions  

My mouth can't hold that many words, but agreed and rec'd

Allot of good points, some worth arguing, I suggest we receive to keep around a bit.

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by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well we were 4 games below .500 last year....

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by Kurupt on Jul 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

are we really worse than the Raiders, Lions, Buccaneers, Chiefs, and Rams

Answer is no. Question is does it really matter at this point. Everyone’s question should be are we really worse than the Patriots, Dolphins and Jets. IMO the answer is the same, NO.

I understand the reference but we need to focus on divisional opponents, not next offseason’s draft order. A common theme here.

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by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Adam....

I agree with the vast majority of your post. On the negative side, I am very concerned with the OLB position and with the subtraction of Schobel and the conversion to the 3-4 I have to say at this point we have regressed in the outside pass rush. But on the positive side, I believe we will have vastly improved on the interior defense against the run. Our inability to stop the run kept our defense on the field far too long and they eventually caved in the 4th quarter. This was the major focus of our draft and free agent signings but gets very little attention in the national media. That improvement alone will keep us more competitive than last year. On paper we have a brutal away schedule which will make it tough to improve upon last year’s record but that’s on paper. I truly believe that Chan is bringing a tough hard-nosed attitude to this team which was really lacking previously. This was a long winded response to say no we really aren’t at the bottom of the barrel in this league. I remain cautiously optimistic and look forward to proving all of the talking heads wrong. Good post and rec’d

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by Byrdeputt on Jul 17, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

the way I see it...

is that in simply making the transition to the 3-4, we’ve improved our pass rush by putting our athletes in a better position to make plays. We’ve also got a coach who has a thorough knowledge of the 3-4, which makes the offseason all the more productive because our players are really going to learn something. Then I throw in Maybin’s promise and Batten, who I like. In the end, when I stack all of that up against the negative of the unknown, I think they even out. Like I said, if we can get last year’s production out of a new defense, then we’ve done well.

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by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea...

but what scares me is the additional duties of pass coverage for these OLB. This is a real unknown. This is where good coaching can help but you still have to have instincts and ability. Just too much uncertainty for me to be comfortable. I think Schobel would have been an excellent OLB. If he were still here I would say that we definitely upgraded, but I’ll just wait and see how everything unfolds in training camp before I can say for sure. At least I feel we have a very competent coaching staff that will get the best out of what we have. Here’s hoping that we are pleasantly surprised when all is said and done. GO BILLS!!!!!

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by Byrdeputt on Jul 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Within the coaching staff, we've drastically improved.

Allot of your points are covered by the summary of stating they are status quo or improved. Safe analysis because we haven’t played as a team yet, but I agree with the coaching here. We have all mentioned at one time or another that we have been dormant in this offseason compared to past seasons. The key to our offseason is the hire of Chan Gailey and his back ground in the NFL. He is our big splash in 2010 whether it creates waves with in our division may take a couple years but we know where the splash occurred.

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by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Edwards has coached in 3-4 defenses for a few years now

He also knows the teams and personnel in our division very well. This can not be ignored. The question is can he mold our players into the roles they will be required to play in 2010. Is our talent on the roster good enough for him to make the transition and is his staff capable of following his lead. Strength on defense goes to the coaching IMO and the talent is there it’s just a matter of learning new roles and assignments, then the execution.

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by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

At left tackle / offensive line, we've improved.

This is a no brain-er. All these young guys, one year longer is one year stronger at this point, but this also the biggest area of improvement needed. You can slice it any way you want but actually our running offense was just as sad as our passing offense last season. The o-line was never really any good at any one thing last season. They were better in some areas over other areas but still never very good at one single aspect. A 1,000 yard rusher over a sixteen game season should be a given at this level, with backs like we have we should have two of them with a 1,000 yards. It’s gotta start up front.

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde

by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

At quarterback, we've maintained status quo

Most critical need. Are we looking for a franchise QB or a God? How has Tiger survived the Travis Henry syndrome…….Protection. Manning and Brady survived because of protection along with their elite intangibles. Rodgers and Schaub are very gifted as well but need to run for their life more than the other two due to lack of protection, similar to Travis Henry. We need an upgrade here at QB, but it will be much easier to find, teach and grow that QB when some of our other ducks are in a row.

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by VanScottM on Jul 17, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

absolutely

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can we be status quo in the QBs by not adding one and improved at LT without adding one?

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post

I see where your coming from and Rec’d. Very valid points in that we haven’t really lost much this year from last year (minus a very lazy t.o. And an aging Aaron schobel). I’m not really worried about our offense at all being worse than last year’s. Gailey knows talent when he sees it and can put that talent in position to make plays.

by KC13 on Jul 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I actually had them on there at first, and I agree

But I took them down because of the fact that the Bills have lost to them recently and a lot of fans are still upset about that lol

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

3-game losing streak against the Browns.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 18, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 3-year skid, as I like to refer to it.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 19, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

All your Chan Gailey stats

were from 98 and 99. If Gailey were that good, why didn’t he had more head coaching opportunities? And were his stats that good with other teams?

In fact, bringing in stats from more than 10 years ago just go to show how bad Gailey gotta be recently.

I’m not saying he will fail miserably. I’m just saying that’s not a convincing point to prove Gailey’s abilities.

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by moncheri on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I wanted to use stats from Gailey’s playoff years to show what he can do with a talented but misguided team. In 1997 the Cowboys were coming off a 6-10 season in which they finished at the bottom of the NFC East. Their offense was ranked 22nd in the league, and their -4 turnover differential was good for 22nd as well. Gailey came in and took them to 10-6 and a wildcard berth. The next season, his team went 8-8, prompting Jerry Jones to fire him (which, as I said, he still regrets doing). Gailey went to Miami to be the OC, as they already had a HC, and in one year he made mediocre Jay Fiedler into a top-tier quarterback.

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

ok maybe top tier wasn’t the best wording. But Gailey was he one that turned him into a more than serviceable player.

by KC13 on Jul 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not really.

Gailey was just the first one that had him as a full time starting QB. He was having his best season ever (until injuries ended it and essentially put a caper on his career) the year after Gailey left.

by twoeightnine on Jul 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Gailey is definitely the one that put Fiedler on the path to success. While you can argue that Gailey is the one that first used him, that’s not an entirely solid defense because Gailey had his choice of quarterbacks and chose Fiedler. He had another quarterback who was every bit as competent in Ray Lucas. It’s just as possible that Fiedler would have never gotten a chance had Gailey not picked him.

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The path to success?

Ray Lucas? Neither of those things should be considered something to trumpet when talking about how good of a coach someone is. I can’t wait for next year when we talk about how amazing of a job Gailey did with Trent. I mean, a 72 QB rating, 10 TDs and 9 INTs, that’s amazing!

Also Lucas joined the Dolphins in Gailey’s second year after Fiedler had started 16 games for him the previous year. So Fiedler already had gotten his chance before Gailey had to “pick” between the two.

by twoeightnine on Jul 17, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good post

I think the basic points you make are very solid, although there is one factor you leave out — difficulty of schedule. It is always a guessing game as to how teams will perform based on their previous year’s record, but it would seem that the Bills have been dealt a very tough hand this year, which is why I suspect we will end up with a total of five or six wins. If we were playing last year’s schedule this year it would be more like 8-8 or even 9-7. It’s also very important to remember that teams almost invariably get off to a slow start when they are learning new systems — as the Bills will be doing on offense and defense AND special teams.

by Macktruck on Jul 17, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Special teams won’t be a factor in the adjustment period, as shown in a recent article on buffalobills.com (http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3/13—-Will-special-teams-have-a-different-approach/d6a809d9-3e9e-44cb-8498-6a6a347539a5). Although I agree that there will be an adjustment period, I think it will only lie with the defense, as the offense, imo, will be immediately adequate by recent Bills standards. Also, we’ve had a fairly tough schedule the past few years anyways, so I don’t see this tough schedule as some “new” obstacle.

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that the Bills won’t be at the bottom of the barrel this year. I think they’re too veteran and mediocre at QB and have too solid of a defense to be a real candidate for the first overall pick. Here’s a fun fact, the Oakland Raiders are the only team to end up with the first overall pick that didn’t finish in the bottom three in points given up per game in the last decade. And that was the 2006 season where they struggled to run the ball and Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter and Marques Tuiasosopo combined to throw 7 TDs, 24 INTs and were sacked 72 times. Buffalo won’t be the worst team in the league this year.

Where I disagree is that the team can’t be worse than last year. Everybody loves to blame the scheme and the coaches for the lack of run defense, but nobody ever gives that same scheme and those same coaches credit for the great pass defenses. If switching to the 3-4 were some magic cure for run defense, why wouldn’t every single team in the NFL run it? The Bills have been using an extremely pass D friendly scheme under Jauron. Does anybody really think that the Bills will hold opposing QBs to the 2nd lowest completion percentage in the league? Or intercept the 2nd most passes? The Bills were easily the 2nd best statistical pass D in the league last year. And if people think that McGee, Florence, Corner, Wilson, Whtiner and Byrd were the entire reason why and think they will do it again this year, then I think those people are nuts. The Bills are in line for a massive regression in pass defense.

I’m also not sure how losing Schobel is maintaining the status quo in pass rush. He was our pass rush last year. He had 10 sacks, twice as many as Chris Kelsay, our 2nd leading pass rusher and more than 30% of the team’s sacks. I’m not sure how to describe the Bills’ group of pass rushers (WIlliams, Carrington, Maybin, Kelsay, Mitchell, Torbor and the backup OLBs) as anything other than one of the worst groups of pass rushers in the league. That’s not status quo, that’s considerably worse than last year.

The last thing to consider is that while the Bills improved this offseason, that’s the exact same argument that all the other bad teams and their fans are trying to use to justify how they will improve this year. The Bills went 6-10, but got lucky with the timing of the schedule with the Colts win. The Bills really should have been a 5-11 team. Looking at teams who did worse than that, won’t Washington be a better team than Buffalo with a revamped OL and Donovan McNabb? I think the Raiders are a better team with Campbell at QB and a bunch of key defensive additions (McClain, Wimbley, John Henderson, Lamar Houston). I see more teams poised to pass the Bills in the standings than there are teams that finished ahead of Buffalo who might finish behind them this year.

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by kaisertown on Jul 17, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Hmm

So why can’t Buffalo get better? Buffalo was decimated with injuries last year. With less injuries, shouldn’t we see improvement? With a OC that doesn’t change frequently, and hopefully some offensive schemes that play to our strengths we’ll do just fine. Defense is were I’m a little scared, we got bigger but this switch to 3-4 is worrisome. Hopefully D is able to adjust, acclimate quickly to change. Heres hoping Bills surprise alot of doubters!

by buffalobacker on Jul 18, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with all this

I do believe the run D will be much better this year. It might still stink though.

The Bills are in line for a massive regression in pass defense.

I just can’t believe how few actually believe this. I feel this way, but it seems so many other Bills fans believe this secondary is destined to be the best in the league this year. I’ll be shocked if the Bills finish in the top 10 pass defense this year. I think they’ll see a major regression as well. I don’t think they’ll be bad at all, but this pass defense just looks like a middle of the pack unit talent-wise.

Of teams that were actually better than the Bills last year, the only team that I might consider having the chance to finish with a worse record than them this year is Denver. Arizona might really fade too. 7 or 8 win teams like Miami, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Chicago, Carolina, New York Giants, and San Francisco all look a lot better on paper. I agree that a Washington and Oakland will be better than the Bills, buoyed by better QB’s and solid defenses. I think Seattle might be poised to jump ahead of the Bills, too, if they can get solid QB play and a better defensive effort this year.

The Bills just look like a bottom 5 team. From the QB and OL, to the pass rush, to the lack of quality WR’s and a pass defense that looks like it’ll fall back to the pack a bit, it’s hard to see an improvement in the win column. Throw in a very difficult schedule and this season has the makings of one of the longer ones of the decade. I’m just hoping we can see improvement and hope for the future.

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by Kurupt on Jul 18, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Realism, and you know it!!

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by Kurupt on Jul 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Hard to argue with that Kurupt. I get overly optimistic. But reading some posts brings me back down to reality. Really sucks to be a Bills fan in the recent decade! :)

by buffalobacker on Jul 18, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like optimism

I applaud it. I just don’t agree with the hopeless optimism we’ve seen on here too often. Expecting things to happen that are so unlikely to occur is just something I can’t do…I still have dreams that they might though!

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by Kurupt on Jul 18, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they’ll be bad at all, but this pass defense just looks like a middle of the pack unit talent-wise.

That’s what I was going to say – they’ll be statistically average, and they’ll have their moments.

It’s also why I put McKelvin so high on my Ten Bills to Decide 2010 list – his development is a lot more important than people realize.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the future....most definitely

But I still don’t think Leo’s play will make or break this secondary this year.

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by Kurupt on Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you take away Byrd’s take-aways, the secondary looks rather average. They were not overtly successful defending the pass on the edge and McGee and Florence were closer to the bottom than the top in shut-down ability. So yes, I agree with you that this season likely will be more of a struggle for them because it’s likely that now they’ll have even less of a pass rush to compliment them. (Is this even possible?!)

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody loves to blame the scheme and the coaches for the lack of run defense, but nobody ever gives that same scheme and those same coaches credit for the great pass defenses.

FWIW – they did retain DBs coach George Catavolos.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately, I read that and came across disappointed with the extreme amount of pessimism

and see my comments above in response to your comment here

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by Adam_K on Jul 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

secondary

Talent-wise these guys have got it all. Just look at what they were able to do last season with a front seven generating very little pressure. That’s flat out good cover skills and coaching. We will be relying on this unit again this season to produce and put up numbers even when there’s a lack of pass rush.

by KC13 on Jul 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The scheme had a lot to do with it

Talent-wise, this group is nothing to crow about. They’re solid, but not spectacular.

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by Kurupt on Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They weren’t that great in coverage. Byrd took 9 footballs away and opponents didn’t need to rely on the pass to kill the defense. Seriously, it wasn’t as beautiful an event, the secondary, as most people like to believe 2009 was. It looked better on paper and in newspapers, but there were many things that could have been exploited if the run defense was even pedestrian.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Tough Year Ahead...

…for my Bills. Bottom Five? Probably. Not to say they won’t have tough competition for that prestigious position (there are a lot of teams I really don’t like going into 2010-11). But they have a touch schedule, given I can’t see them winning more than 1 divisional game, not to mention GB, a better Chicago team, Minny. Those games alone put them in the neighborhood of 1-8.

Do I see things trending positive? Sure. I think our overall talent level improved post-draft. Do the Bills need to go backwards before they go forwards? I think so. To me, this seems to be the year we allow what we’ve got to compete, weed out the guys who won’t cut it after this year, then we have the core to rebuild around. 2011 they start to add more parts (from among DE, OLB, WR, OT, QB?) and we get a nice club with a mindset that is improved from the ‘if only we can get to 8-8’ attitude that seemed prevalent over the past 4-5 years.

At least, that’s what I’m hoping for!

by T McGee on Jul 18, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It would be a major upset if Buffalo isn’t drafting in the top 5 this year. I honestly think they’ll be battling Tampa Bay for the number one pick come December based on Buffalo’s roster.

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by Port Royal on Jul 18, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You just jinxed the team. Now they’ll pick 6th! =)

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What talent?

So who will catch the ball from quarterback 1-2-3? Do we even have a 3rd wide receiver let alone a #2 or a tight end?Everyone voices concern about the left tackle.Are either one competent at run blocking. The offense will be BELOW average and good luck expecting these players ,who are out of their normal positions,to produce.Other teams are drooling about short slant patterns and throwing to backs out of the backfield.
 Out of 4 teams in the division the Bills could be a #5.

by coach 07 on Jul 19, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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