Final Pre-Training Camp Bills Roster Prediction

by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT in Buffalo Bills Training Camp

As the Buffalo Bills continue to trickle into the dorm rooms at St. John Fisher College for 2010 training camp, we're still awaiting (more) news on the likes of Aaron Schobel, C.J. Spiller and Torell Troup. In the meantime, today is a day of making predictions, and we felt obliged to throw out one more pre-camp 53-man roster projection. You'll find it after the jump - and questions, comments, and your own predictions are, as always, welcome in the comments section.

Without further ado, here are the 53 players that I'm predicting will make the team. The fact that I have published this before training camp virtually guarantees that at least 25% of it will be wrong come early September.

#	Name	Pos.	College
5	Trent Edwards	QB	Stanford
10	Levi Brown	QB	Troy
14	Ryan Fitzpatrick	QB	Harvard
21	C.J. Spiller	RB	Clemson
22	Fred Jackson	RB	Coe College
23	Marshawn Lynch	RB	California
38	Corey McIntyre	FB	West Virginia
11	Roscoe Parrish	WR	Miami (FL)
13	Steve Johnson	WR	Kentucky
17	Chad Jackson	WR	Florida
81	Marcus Easley	WR	Connecticut
83	Lee Evans	WR	Wisconsin
80	Derek Schouman	TE	Boise State
82	Michael Matthews	TE	Georgia Tech
89	Shawn Nelson	TE	Southern Miss
60	Kyle Calloway	OL	Iowa
63	Geoff Hangartner	OL	Texas A&M
67	Andy Levitre	OL	Oregon State
69	Jamon Meredith	OL	South Carolina
70	Eric Wood	OL	Louisville
71	Ed Wang	OL	Virginia Tech
73	Kirk Chambers	OL	Stanford
74	Cornell Green	OL	Central Florida
77	Demetrius Bell	OL	Northwestern State
75	Lonnie Harvey	DL	Morgan State
91	Spencer Johnson	DL	Auburn
92	Alex Carrington	DL	Arkansas State
95	Kyle Williams	DL	LSU
96	Torell Troup	DL	Central Florida
98	Dwan Edwards	DL	Oregon State
99	Marcus Stroud	DL	Georgia
45	Arthur Moats	LB	James Madison
51	Paul Posluszny	LB	Penn State
54	Andra Davis	LB	Florida
55	Kawika Mitchell	LB	South Florida
53	Reggie Torbor	LB	Auburn
57	Danny Batten	LB	South Dakota State
58	Aaron Maybin	LB	Penn State
59	Antonio Coleman	LB	Auburn
90	Chris Kelsay	LB	Nebraska
24	Terrence McGee	DB	Northwestern State
25	Ellis Lankster	DB	West Virginia
27	Reggie Corner	DB	Akron
28	Leodis McKelvin	DB	Troy
29	Drayton Florence	DB	Tuskegee
47	Cary Harris	DB	USC
20	Donte Whitner	DB	Ohio State
31	Jairus Byrd	DB	Oregon
37	George Wilson	DB	Arkansas
43	Bryan Scott	DB	Penn State
9	Rian Lindell	K	Washington State
8	Brian Moorman	P	Pittsburg State
65	Garrison Sanborn	LS	Florida State

If you'd rather see that in depth chart form... well, here you are.

Pos.	#	Starter	#	Backup	#	Reserve
WR	13	Steve Johnson	81	Marcus Easley
LT	77	Demetrius Bell	69	Jamon Meredith	71	Ed Wang
LG	67	Andy Levitre
C	63	Geoff Hangartner
RG	70	Eric Wood	60	Kyle Calloway
RT	74	Cornell Green	73	Kirk Chambers
TE	89	Shawn Nelson	82	Michael Matthews	80	Derek Schouman
WR	83	Lee Evans	11	Roscoe Parrish	17	Chad Jackson
QB	5	Trent Edwards	14	Ryan Fitzpatrick	10	Levi Brown
RB	22	Fred Jackson	21	C.J. Spiller	23	Marshawn Lynch
FB	38	Corey McIntyre
LE	99	Marcus Stroud	92	Alex Carrington
NT	95	Kyle Williams	96	Torell Troup	75	Lonnie Harvey
RE	98	Dwan Edwards	91	Spencer Johnson
LOLB	90	Chris Kelsay	57	Danny Batten
LILB	51	Paul Posluszny	55	Kawika Mitchell
RILB	54	Andra Davis	45	Arthur Moats
ROLB	58	Aaron Maybin	53	Reggie Torbor	59	Antonio Coleman
LCB	24	Terrence McGee	27	Reggie Corner	47	Cary Harris
SS	20	Donte Whitner	43	Bryan Scott
FS	31	Jairus Byrd	37	George Wilson
RCB	29	Drayton Florence	28	Leodis McKelvin	25	Ellis Lankster
K	9	Rian Lindell
P	8	Brian Moorman
LS	65	Garrison Sanborn

Agreements? Disagreements? Predictions of your own? The comments section is all yours, folks.

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Brohm cut huh? I think you just let down some people. =)

by Mindbender14 on Jul 28, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions

I see no reason to believe that Brohm will a) beat out Edwards to start, b) beat out Fitzpatrick for the backup spot, or c) show more long-term promise than Brown in the pre-season.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

We will have to wait and see what happens, but I suspect Brian is wrong on either a) or c). It pf course all depends on how talented Brohm really is (or how talented Gailey evaluates him to be). If Brohm does have a strong camp and preseason, I can see the team either putting him in as the starter (on the grounds that he has far more upside than Edwards) or keeping him in reserve in the event Edwards falters out of the gate. In that case, they may run the risk of putting Brown on the P.S. (which is probably not a big risk).

Of course, if Brohm has a lacklustre August then he will be cut, as Brian predicts. My gut instinct tells me that he is good enough — and Gailey likes him enough — so that that won’t happen. We’ll see.

by Macktruck on Jul 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

agreed....rec'd

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by Joe P. on Jul 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I will have to respectfully disagree, but base that entirely on emotion. I just feel Brohm over Fitzpatrick. It’s insane to feel that way (if i’m placing bets), but things could get interesting.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I really try not to put “emotion” and “reason” in the same sentence, ever. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Heh. Well, i’m in a weird spot, and I should probably steer clear of attempts at sound reason for now. I want Edwards to succeed, because I think he’s a good talent. The problem is his injury history, and the potential David Carr’ing he may have suffered. If that’s the case, I really want to see this team developing Brohm, as a largely unpainted canvas, and one gessoed much better than Brown.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed.... rec'd

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

No Hardy?

I’m a little bit surprised. But sadly it’s not that unfathomable.

by BuffaloBrewed on Jul 28, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions

I completely missed that! I have a hard time believing they’d just part ways with him, at such a young, unproven age.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. I think they’d be much more willing to part with Roscoe than Hardy at this point.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Jul 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I think they’d be much more willing to part with the player that doesn’t play football as well. I like Parrish better than Hardy as a guy you work to get the ball to.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree

Gailey does not care who was drafted when and how long they have been there or for this case how TALL he is. Gailey is looking for guys who are going to make things happen with the ball in their hands. This is why he brought in Spiller even though we had 2 good RB’s, this is also why you have seen Roscoe in the headlines and in the practice film.

Gailey is looking to keep the best talent on a team that he has recently adopted and will look to add more and more.

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by billsoferie on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree with Brian. I don’t think Hardy separates enough talent-wise, in the same way Parrish does. He’s a unique talent who thus far has suffered coaches unable to figure out how to highlight his abilities.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Like what?

His shocking ability to drop the ball? Sure he may be of the/the fastest player on the team, but I have never seen him prove he can catch well enough to play WR on a regular basis.

by Mr. h on Jul 28, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Gotta agree with Mr. h. Neither can Roscoe even get open. And last year it looked like he had completely lost his ability to return punts (either that or he just gave up). I’d say Parrish has had opportunity over and over and over to show what he can do, and has been unimpressive in almost every instance.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it’s more likely that Hardy is the #5 guy rather than Chad Jackson. Neither have really done much to this point in their NFL careers and neither looks like they’re gonna light the world on fire so far. We’ve already got speed guys, so how does Jackson differentiate himself from the others? Hardy’s is a different skill set. Hardy was drafted by the team (even if not this regime) and somehow I see that making a difference too.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jul 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Long snapper.

Does anyone know if long snapping is so difficult that they have to carry an extra guy just to do it? It would seem like that’s something that someone else (maybe even the regular center) could learn to do.

Can anyone more knowledgeable than myself shed some light?

by cmeid on Jul 28, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions

You have to have a good one, and Sanborn’s the only good one on the roster.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Sure, I can accept that. But wouldn’t that mean that any rookie that can learn to long-snap before going pro would be guaranteed to be drafted better/less likely to get cut?

OK, I guess guys don’t think that way, they want to be the best at their own position first, but still surprised that nobody who’s out there fighting for a roster spot is trying to usurp Sanborn.

by cmeid on Jul 28, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think any of these guys did it in college, to be honest, aside from Sanborn. Most NFL teams reserve a roster spot specifically for a long snapper, anyway.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Two Years Ago ...

We tried to skirt by with a snapper that was a position player (Neil ??). It cost us one game for sure, and possibly two. They have to be perfect.

by MrFurious1 on Jul 28, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Well, rec’d since I was going to write almost the exact same thing. Long-snapping is not an easily developed skill. The ones who can do it well will make it over ones who are just trying to do it as an “extra duty.” Sanborn actually beat out such a guy (Ryan Neill) to make the squad last year.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

It might be akin to asking the punter (or Chad Johnson) to also be the kicker.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

What game did Ryan Neill cost us?

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by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Yeah no kidding. He wasn’t a position player. Just because he took a couple reps at camp at DE doesn’t make him a DE.

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by MattRichWarren on Jul 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

good question

Same thing for kick off specialists I cant imagin nfl teams saving a valuable roster spot for a guy who can only kick off, I wouldnt be suprised to see teams trying to find players who can contribute in other facets of the game besides those of specialists

by bflobills3 on Jul 28, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

If I could find a guy who could put it out of the endzone

he’d be on my roster. He’s more valuable then the 10 guys who don’t need to tackle. Those guys are rare.

by MrFurious1 on Jul 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

MrFurious1, you’re all over it today.

Not only that, but often the kickoff specialist is a young kicker with a booming leg that is being groomed to eventually replace a more experienced FG kicker.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I have issues with two

I firmly believe that Hardy and Brohm will be on the 53 man roster… I think you are “spot on” with the remainder of the list…

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by chaosthepitbull on Jul 28, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

Well he cant be "spot on" because two people would have to be off the list in your scenerio.

so which two do you remove?

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d look at one of the reserve tight ends. That might cut them short at the position, but first they need to prove to me the position is of true value.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll answer that because I feel the same way about Hardy and Brohm making the roster...

Fitz is cut, C. Jackson is cut (maybe even C. Harris)

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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

As I stated…. Spot on with the REMAINDER of the list

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by chaosthepitbull on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

right, but two people would still have to be cut in place of them, so he was asking who would you cut?

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Not expecting Schobel to come back, huh?

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by Jon Harrington on Jul 28, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions

Not yet. Plus, I wrote this over a month ago, and just flat-out refused to change it, as he hasn’t actually made a decision yet.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

ha! Awesome!

I do have to say I think Brohm will make the roster.

Hardy? Wow, hope he’s not cut, but it’s certainly possible.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Cut Corey Mc and add Hardy

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by Joe P. on Jul 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Again, that comes down to special teams.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Ad Corey is a very good special teams blocker.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Corey Mc provides nothing as a blocker...

Keep Stupar instead

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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t get that argument. McIntyre provides something as a blocker just by being as wide as he is tall.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

didn't some say Chan really doesn't use a FB?

since Lynch is our goal line back and we still have some H-backs type TEs, do we really need a FB?

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by Joe P. on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the only thing that surprises me is Whitner over Scott – i’m sure “starter” doesn’t mean much with rotation – but I feel Scott is a better SS than Whitner

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by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions

If anyone’s starting at strong safety over Whitner, it’ll be George Wilson.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs

completely agree.

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by Schwing9 on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

rec it then!!

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Rec'd.

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by Schwing9 on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

^ This ^

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions

rec it then!!

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I think his career has been one that has been interesting to watch – the epitomy of “whatever it takes”

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by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

yup

i am not even sure Scott makes the roster. i would love to see Wilson as SS and keep Cary Harris as a FS. Cut Scott, free the spot for Nic Harris.. who i see as having a similar skillset to Scott, and being younger and faster.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Scotts making the roster

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

i am just saying

I personally feel, or think, that i’m just not sure, that scott makes the roster.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Rec'd

Scott is much too slow to play every down…

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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

No Brohm and no Hardy? Surprised you predict Moorman will make the cut after that.

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by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions

I see what you did there; I don’t, however, understand the logic.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m having the same problem with the lack of the two aforementioned names on your roster. You believe Brown will make the roster ahead of Brohm and not be on the practice squad? Hardy…okay, bad injury and it looks like we have plenty of receivers as capable as he eager to replace him; not unreasonable. I don’t know too much about Brohm, save for what I saw of him vs. Atlanta, but I have to believe a former 2nd-rounder with experience with the team will win out for at least the 3rd QB spot over a rookie 7th round pick.

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by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

let me

introduce you to Matt Flynn.

by Mindbender14 on Jul 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, technically, both Brohm and Flynn were rookies at that time, so there’s that. And Flynn actually beat him out for the backup job, so if you want to get technical, Brohm WIPED THE FLOOR WITH FLYNN for the third QB spot.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

LOL

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by Dyl on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Re: Brohm

Sure, just like he did in Green Bay. Ever Heard of Matt Flynn?

by tm on Jul 28, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Brohm

Yes I have. 7th rounder who beat out Brohm on the Packers for the #2 spot…hence Brohm’s signing with the Bills after the Packers would not match our offer for him. Should I assume then you do believe Brohm will be practice squad material?

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by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope

I expect him to be on the street after losing out to a 7th rounder (again).

by tm on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions

matched

green bay did match bills offer

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by fyoungpop on Jul 28, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Fact checker

Need one of those. It should then read:

hence Brohm’s signing with the Bills

over

the Packers

~~would not match our offer for him~~

If he sucks, cut him after this year, but for now I think it’s better to have Brohm’s (albeit little) experience on the roster and develop Brown on the PS for backing up Locker next year. Crossing my fingers we aren’t drafting low enough next year for Locker unless there proves to be no hope in our current QB quartet

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by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Hardy’s exclusion has nothing to do with injury, and everything to do with the fact that a) he can’t play special teams, b) isn’t super talented to begin with, and c) the team isn’t likely to keep more than 5 anyway.

As for Brohm, as I said earlier, I haven’t seen anything yet that would lead me to believe he’ll beat out Edwards to start or Fitzpatrick as the backup, and if it gets to that point, the team will have to decide whether they like Brohm or Brown better as a project.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree with this 100%

Hardy’s exclusion has nothing to do with injury, and everything to do with the fact that a) he can’t play special teams, b) isn’t super talented to begin with, and c) the team isn’t likely to keep more than 5 anyway.

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by bflo on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Hard(l)y

I get all the arguments for Hardy’s exclusion and don’t disagree with them, I just don’t know if Jackson is more qualified for the job. With Brohm, I’ve read he’s been speculated as Edwards’ biggest competition, and polls on this site suggest fans prefer either Edwards or Brohm start and that Fitz be cut. With that in mind, his exclusion from the list comes as somewhat of a surprise, however BG, I know you don’t see him climbing higher than #3 on the chart so I don’t fault you at all for sticking to your guns.

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by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I am beginning to wonder what thought process was behind the drafting of Hardy. He seems so easily forgotten and unrecognizable at the worst times.

I like his potential, I just wish he’d dress himself in it.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I think we needed a leaper for the red zone.

by oompaloompa on Jul 28, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Jim Kelly said the team needed a big receiver, and OBD agreed.

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by Undee on Jul 29, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Light at WR (5); Heavy at LB (9)

Hardy in, Coleman or Torbor out. I’ll bet on the rookie and boot Torbor

by MrFurious1 on Jul 28, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions

We start two wideouts and four linebackers. So yes, heavy at LB, light at WR.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Any good 3-4 unit will be heavy at LB

That shouldn’t be surprising at all.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Torbor is one of two guys on the LB corp. with 3-4 experience

and under Edwards

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by billsoferie on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Most 3-4 teams carry 8-10 LBers on the roster, and usually 2 of those guys are serious ST players as well

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by WABillsfan on Jul 28, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

You had to of put alot of thought into this.

Rec’d for effort, hard to comment because it doesn’t look to bad. Need to look at the names that aren’t there. Such as Hardy, Youboty, Ellis etc… and Brohm. Your list is full of logic. I guess I am leaning on the Carry Harris selection, but not worth arguing over. I do like Lankster and Corner. I will probably just sit and stare at if for a while. good job BG.

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by VanScottM on Jul 28, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Youbuty gets to the boot(y) since the kid can never stay on the field. Good talent, just also real goos at getting hurt and staying hurt

by WABillsfan on Jul 28, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

VanScottM

you rule, dude. Sometimes you have the raddest stuff to say.

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by Undee on Jul 29, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Hardy would be the biggest surprise cut in this case, but I could totally see it happening if he gets out-performed, especially if the three UDFAs are nipping on his heels as well.

by Jeff Winters on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions

i take Hardy on potential

over Roscoe and his ablility to …. what? what does he really have to offer that Spiller, or FJ, or one of the young receivers maybe couldn’t? He is overpaid for a 5 touch a game WR, and return specialist. we would rather get Spiller those touches in those roles. Roscoe signals to the defense your intentions as soon as he steps on the field.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

or better yet

cut Hardy too and just keep Roosevelt. I wanna see us running WR like the Saints. 6 foot or so guys who have strong hands. Big targets. “Big guys throwing to big guys.”

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Roosevelt

Agreed!!

That was not a laterall!!!

by brendar of the bills people on Jul 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Practise squad material.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

I’m pretty sure your right, just want to see what the new guys bring to the table, can’t wait for football!!!

That was not a laterall!!!

by brendar of the bills people on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions

i know

but a guy can hope. Let’s end the Parrish Experiment already. “Mularkey” was just that. you take him with your second when you didn’t have a first because you traded it away to select a WR (Evans) a year earlier? What is that move? dumb. it was mularkey. i am still angry about it. Ditch him. stop wasting the money and the spot on a guy who would be lucky to survive 3 games of actual snaps before someone breaks him in two.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions

You must really hate Roscoe man. Everytime he’s brought up you’re just so negative. It’s almost like he wronged you personally lol

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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jul 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

he is hurting our team by not producing, even in his arena of special teams.

i can see why he fell out of favor. and i feel like i would rather not lose the ability to further develop guys that fit like, a meachum or colston mold (johnson, hardy, roosevelt, nelson) in order to keep a Ted Ginn Jr type… because a DeSean Jackson or Percy Harvin, he is not.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I see Jackson or Johnson getting cut over Hardy

by BuffaloChip on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions

If Hardy stays, then yeah, Jackson won’t make the team. I don’t see any way Steve Johnson would get cut.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions

i sure hope you are right

Steve needs to be a go to. i would like him as the number 2, but almost wouldn’t mind seeing Easley and Johnson outside, with Lee in the slot during 3 WR sets… If he is willing to work the middle as well, that gives a lot of versatility to the play calling and mismatches that can be created.

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Tight End Competition

IMO Nelson still needs a full and healthy training camp and possibly even half the season of the same before I would put him in front of Mathews and Schouman. We need to see what Schouman has to offer. He was supposed to be the run blocker and pass catching tight end last season before injury. Fans are giving Nelson alot of credit before it is actually earned.

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by VanScottM on Jul 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

why do we have to see more of Schouman if Nelson performs better in camp and preseason? Nelson has a very high ceiling which is why the fan base is high on him.

I prefer Nelson because he can actually stretch the field

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Jul 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Says what you will about Nelson’s health, his talent is the best that we have at TE on this team. And his hands may actually the second best on this team behind Evans.

Oh and he was labeled as a catching tight end that needed to learn how to block. Something that he is still doing btw, although he’s proving to be a quick study.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

We are allegedly a running team, running teams need to have a tight end that can block consistently, play after play. Mathews is a blocking tight end the guy you haven’t heard about until today, that’s why he was brought in. Schouman was injured early last season but was key in much of the offense. His loss will never be justified until this year. Hence the wait and see. Nelson, are you suggesting he is near his ceiling, you mention a need to learn how to run block. If we are going to run the ball successfully on offense I suggest we give Nelson some more time to reach that ceiling and see what Mathews and Schouman have to offer before Nelson is given an unearned role. I guess it is called training camp. That’s all I am sayin about Nelson.

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by VanScottM on Jul 28, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think that Nelson is anywhere near his ceiling. he’s still learning how to block concistently and how to run routes consistently. That why i thought that Schouman was also going to be key this year because he’s a good blocker. Matthews makes sense because if we’re going to have a TE that’s a receivers before he’s a blocker, then we need one thats a blocker before he’s a receiver.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Am I the only one that remembers that Schouman was actually playing really well before he got hurt last year.

Also Nelson was a much better blocker than advertised.

by Nick Holt on Jul 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions

No Hardy? No Brohm? wait, what?

So you think that Chad Jackson get the nod over Hardy? Not that big of a stretch but still a bit surprising.

What is surprising is Brohm getting cut. Especially with all the praise he got from Gailey. Any particular reason why you think he gets the axe?

Who is Michael Matthews? I’ve never herd of him until today.

The D looks exactly as I expected though. However who to you think gets cut if Schobel decides to come back?

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions

“All the praise he got from Gailey” equates to “he’s made a jump.”

Jackson is just as talented – if not more talented – than Hardy, and has been just as disappointing. He’s slightly more useful than Hardy is as a specialist, which is why he got the nod.

@BrianGalliford

by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Makes sense for Jackson/Hardy.

Short of the canadian classical composer, I’ve still never herd of Michael Matthews though. When did we sign this guy? And do you honestly think that a guy that couldn’t make it with the Lions last year (go google!) is actually going to finish ahead of Schouman on the depth chart?

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Doesn’t he weigh close to 300 lbs? Easy way to add an extra lineman, I guess.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree except for 2 spots, and one is not Brohm...

I actually agree with everything except i think Hardy gets the nod over Jackson and Stupar over Matthews. My depth chart might look a little different, but in terms of who’s on the team, those are the only changes i would make. IMHO.

Don’t get me wrong, i’m not a Hardy fan, but you have to hope that after supposedly following T.O. Around like a puppy dog last year that he would have learned enough to beach out Chad Jackson for the final spot.

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by Schwing9 on Jul 28, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions

* beat out

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by Schwing9 on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I wept reading this

This roster stinks, and I am in now way shape or form saying that even if you tweak what you have here it will make any difference……

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Rec’d for the loudest, longest laugh I’ve had this week.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed...rec'd

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by Joe P. on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

What if...

…we get Jared Gaither for draft picks and Aaron Schobel from retirement, …nevermind. We still need a pass rusher and a strong LT, but I don’t think even these would help enough. Is it strange that I long for Chester Pitts to add depth to the interior line above all else right now?

by WV2Buffalo on Jul 28, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I won’t begrudge anybody for feeling optimistic or not being as melancholy about it as me. I did see this coming but it still stinks. I mean the biggest gripes about the roster Brian has here is the absence of Hardy and Brohm, but really we could do a 55 man roster AND have Schobel here and this team is still going to struggle to win 4 games

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

My biggest issue with the loss of Brohm (in this predicttion) is that he is essentially a rookie, highly unproven, largely successful and collegiately talented. He’s someone who i’d love to see develop more before he’s thrown to the pit.

I don’t know how this staff could feel comfortable basically putting the season back into the hands of the 2 guys who didn’t do much last season. I think you keep the one with the most potential (Edwards), and roll the dice with Brohm. Still, they can’t be happy about the situation they’re likely to be in this season, at QB. I bet none of it matters, and that’s unfortunate.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

rec'd.

i feel the same way – finding it hard to believe we can end up with both edwards and fitz with the lack of production both demonstrated in recent years. sure, they had poor offensive line protection, but so did Aaron Rodgers (50 sacks last year). Talent is more of an issue than protection I fear. Again, finding it hard to believe we’d keep two known mediocre to bad QBs on the roster when there’s growing talent beneath them.

I think Brohm would have to have a complete stop in progress to not at least win a backup job. Now, if this does indeed happen (little to no improvement over past preseasons), yeah, time to let him go.

by adamsam on Jul 28, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll take that bet

Question marks are abundant, no one questions that. They lost no talent and DID have an INFUSION of very solid talent. Will they win the division? Highly unlikely, will they ‘struggle to win 4 games’? An emphatic no. I don’t see them losing more games than last year. So, if anyone wants to put up a wager on whether they will win 4 games or less versus my bet that they win more than that…feel free to let me know. :-)
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by TexasBillsFanatic on Jul 28, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree with a lot of what you say. Wouldn’t say they lost no talent – TO was talented and played well though not at HOF level last year. Josh Reed was also a very capable and dependable 3rd WR. Also lost Brad Butler to retirement, who played well until he went down to injury (again).

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually think it doesn’t look too bad… if you can make enough concessions in your mind about players progressing and no one getting injured

It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS

by killascript on Jul 28, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't be so negative

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Just following in your footsteps…grump

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Why cant we all just walk side by side......hand in hand.

Pants of course being optional?

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Well K didn’t want to be behind me cause I didn’t have pants on, and he would have felt weird holding my hand for the same reason so he had to walk in front….

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeesh

You think I want to be in front of you while you have no pants on? I’m not walking around blindly knowing some pantsless freak is behind me!!!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 7 recs

Well in this case you are very far ahead…..

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by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL.....gotta rec'd this :-)

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by Joe P. on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve never laughed out loud at work until this post.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

This is great

I’ve never seen people “argue” about what direction they would rather walk near with respect to a man with no pants. I love Rumblings.

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by Dyl on Jul 28, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Thats just the wrong attitude to have.....

Individually we are weak. Together we are strong.

Together is just about the only way we’re gonna survive the upcoming disaster.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha

rec’d on accuracy.. ; )

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by Ren Diggity on Jul 28, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Please!

Edwards and Fitzpatrick running the show again? Is Brohm that bad? We might as well fold up the tent.

by floridamike on Jul 28, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions

There is reason behind the madness.

So don’t fold anything just yet. Just wait one more season and we’ll have our shot at Locker/Mallet/Luck in next year’s draft.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Usually, a “Please!” from a reader reports frustration, indignation or a mere desire to argue, but in this case, I think it was actually a plea. :)

@BrianGalliford

by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll say this: If Brohm doesn’t make the roster, it’ll set my mind at ease more when the ship sinks by November. I won’t struggle as much when they give up on the rostered QBs. I can’t help it. I want to see Brohm given an opportunity to develop his career in Buffalo.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

surprise

Parrish = gone.

by TrufflePig on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions

I would love this team to finally march onwards from the Parrish era. Rather keep Hardy over Parrish.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I couldn’t agree more. I’m afraid Gailey will keep Parrish on the regular roster, only to discover once the season gets underway that it was a big mistake.

by Macktruck on Jul 28, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

If there’s any consolation in that, it’s that we don’t have any receivers more talented than Parrish that would be dropped if he’s kept. :-)

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d be shocked. Gailey has been leaning hard on Parrish to make this guy better. Something tells me he wants to use Roscoe in the slot a lot this year. Plus as good as Spiller is returning kicks, I’m not sure that i want him to return punts too. Roscoe has a spot on this team.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Roscoe is a game-changer. Someone not typical of most rosters. Does he have his drawbacks? Sure. Have they tried to coach them away? Not that we’re wise to.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly. Jauron never tried coaching Roscoe into the lineup, aka make plays that are specificaly built for his skills. Jauron and Co just stuck Roscoe in the slot and expected him to play well without actually looking at his abilities.

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If we give you the Jonas Brothers, can you please give us back Jimi Hendrix?
Amen

by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not saying that Roscoe will be the breakout player of the year, just that he hasn’t been used properly in the past.

Dear God,
If we give you the Jonas Brothers, can you please give us back Jimi Hendrix?
Amen

by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Dear God,
If we give you the Jonas Brothers, can you please give us back Jimi Hendrix?
Amen

by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

yea, color me skeptical about Parrish being cut.

by Mindbender14 on Jul 28, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions

yea, color me skeptical about Parrish being cut.

ditto

Circle them wagons!

by B3@$TMoD3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

all the more foolish/ingenious I’ll look in a few months…

by TrufflePig on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions

Well this offense cant possibly any worse than the product that the 2010 Angels have out there.....

so it works for me……..(as if I really have a choice in the matter anyways heh)

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions

È

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by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 1:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs

Great comment. Well said. Rec’d.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Some of my best work

(it was an optimistic comment by the way)

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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 29, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions

No real disagreements

I’d probably keep Hardy over Cary Harris, but no biggie. I don’t think Hardy is all that talented either and didn’t look capable of consistently beating coverage during his rookie year. I’d be surprised, but not shocked if he’s cut. Would be yet another wasted pick of the past 4 or so years…

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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Hardy being cut might make all those Whitner haters quiet down.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not following the logic...?

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by Kurupt on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Well, just that he might be the new poster boy for early-round disdain.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Parrish vs. Spiller

I like all of your choices Brian. Call me crazy but I really think Roscoe can turn it around. He just needs to get his mojo back. Easier said than done I know. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Spiller returning punts (fewer violent collisions, plus Roscoe struggled the most w/ mishandling punts as opposed to kickoffs) and Roscoe handling KOs. I’ll say Spiller takes two to the house this year and Roscoe takes one. That’s the ONE area where the Bills are probably the best in the NFL — having the most proven homerun kick returners on their roster. So that’s something to hang our collective hats on, right? ;)

by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jul 28, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

You know for atleast the last 3 years I've seen people saying this about Roscoe right as the season is gonna start.

So I hope he really does break out……….or that this season is his last with the team. Im tired of hearing about his “potential for breakout this year” blah blah blah.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 28, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if what you’ve just said is similar to the things Gailey has said about and to Parrish. One last shot.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

He just needs to get his mojo back

When has he ever had it?

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by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

college?

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

short memory

In 2007-2008 Roscoe finished the year #1 punt returner in the league for Buffalo having a 19.0 yard average

by adamsam on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Just Don't See It...

…with Spiller on the team, I think Roscoe is a goner. Similar in style, similar skill sets (CJ seems to have better hands), having two under-sized speed merchants just isn’t something most of the NFL seems to go with – it’d be like having Jamaal Charles and Dante Hall out there at the same time. I don’t know if Hardy would be the replacement if Roscoe were gone (everyone has already expressed the big guy’s many flaws), but I certainly hope he will perform in camp and that will result in his staying on the roster.

by T McGee on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Roscoe has never been a KO returner in the NFL.

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

This is gonna be formatted badly but...

Year KR Yds Avg Long TD
2007 6 126 21.0 24 0
2008 2 40 20.0 25 0
2009 11 258 23.5 31 0

Roscoe’s returned kicks for us. Not a lot and not overly well, but he’s done it. Last year, most notably.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Are you expecting all 2010 draft picks to make the team?

by loupiccone on Jul 28, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Yep.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

no tears?

What, no tears for McCargo or Ellis (2 more high draft picks from ago)?

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by lostlasvegan on Jul 28, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

I bet McCargo hasn’t even unpacked from last season’s mid-year fumble.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Chris Kelsay starting?

God I hope not. and what happened to James Hardy…you think he will get cut?

by csc06258 on Jul 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions

Anyone not on the roster here is a guy I’m projecting will get cut.

@BrianGalliford

by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not on the roster. Am I cut?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Practice Squad

by T McGee on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

assuming no other team claims you for their starting roster.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jul 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

3 nose tackles?

Why would we keep 3?

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by lostlasvegan on Jul 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions

I see no reason NOT to keep 3 NT. It’s a focal point to the 3-4 and it’s a violent position, so injuries are bound to happen.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Two. 3 five-tech ends (Edwards, Stroud, Carrington), two nose tackles (Troup, Harvey), two defensive tackles that’ll be used in more creative alignments (Williams, Johnson).

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

By creative, are you referring to 4-3 looks?

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by lostlasvegan on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Not exclusively, but yes.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

I really hope someone shows up on waivers who could replace Kelsay as a starter. I just can’t wrap my head around that fact that he’ll be a starting OLB in the NFL. I think OLB might be our worst position on the team.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions

the scariest part in all this is the lack of dept at the guard and center position 5 tackles but only 3 guards and a center

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by Gpluehri on Jul 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions

Chambers can play Guard if needed, and of course Wood could slide over to center if needed. But you are right, those spots are a little bare.

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by sireric on Jul 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree and hope we can stash Sean Allen or C Howard on the PS

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by lostlasvegan on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Howard’s a safer bet at this point in time. He’s a really good athlete.

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by Brian Galliford on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

i was thinking along the lines of cut chambers sign pitts 4 tackles 4 guards and hang at center with wood sliding over if needed

by Gpluehri on Jul 28, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

What ever happened to the former Texan that we hosted this week? Any news on his front, I’d love to add him in depth so we can get rid of Chambers.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Why wouldn't we consider putting Levi Brown on the Practice Squad?

Do we have to cut one of the other three QB’s when we have Brown who is clearly developmental and probably doesn’t project anywhere on any one else’s roster early in the season. We signed Brohm off of GB’s PS last year is a lot different because with Brohm there was potential and higher round draft choice factor. Teams like the Bills could take flyer on him to sign him. I don’t think they would look at Brown at the same way unless he really shows something in camp or preseason games. If for some reason we think another team might sign Brown toward the middle of the season when some injuries occur, then we can see where we are and either add him to the roster and cut one of the other QB’s.

I guess I’d be more shocked if we kept Brown if those other guys are all pretty equal in camp. Certainly if one of those guys fail miserably, then they would probably get the axe over the others.

by dabillsr1 on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions

I was just about to say this

I am just afraid that Brown wouldn’t clear whatever kind of waivers a player has to clear in order to be added to the practice squad. Someone could take Levi Brown off of our squad, and if the front office doesn’t want this to happen, they shouldn’t put him there.

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by Dyl on Jul 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah but... the team signing him would have to put the signed PS player on their active roster

for a minimum of three games. That is really hard to do for some teams. I know that Chase Daniel was a UFA for Washington and ended up on their PS for the start of the season. Then NO signed him later in the year after they cut their vet kicker.

I just think it isn’t a lock that Brown makes our active roster unless one of those other QB’s really stink it up or Brown proves that he is really good.

If we end up drafting a Mallet, Locker or Luck next year, Levi will be an after thought anyway.

by dabillsr1 on Jul 28, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

my thoughts, exactly

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by lostlasvegan on Jul 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions

Parrish's Mojo

To sireric — he last had it for a full season in 2007. :) Heck, he even had 35 catches that year and plenty of punt returns at 20+ yards.

by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jul 28, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions

Youboty stays

I think Youboty stays and Lankster goes. I know Youboty has a spotty injury history, but he’s always solid when he’s in the game. And with the new strength and conditioning staff, hopefully he can avoid injury.

by Buffalo Bird on Jul 28, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions

Why Lankster? Why not Cary Harris – what has he shown that Lankster hasn’t?

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by thefourwinds on Jul 28, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed. I’d take Lankster over Youboty from what I’ve seen. I really liked Youboty when he was on the field, but he was injured enough to make me favor Lankster this season.

Bring on the 2010 NFL season! Go Bills!

by Undee on Jul 29, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions