Edwards Opens Bills Camp As No. 1 QB; Fitzpatrick, Brohm Follow
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
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PrintIt's been 97 days since the point in time during the 2010 NFL Draft that it became apparent the Buffalo Bills would be holding an open competition for starting quarterback. Those 97 days were fraught with speculation, rumors, and opinions on which of the team's three incumbents should get the job. While the competition is still in full swing, we finally know which of those QBs will be running with the first-team offense during training camp, thus getting a slight advantage on his competitors.
Trent Edwards is that quarterback. The decision is hardly unexpected.
Rookie receiver David Nelson let the cat out of the bag; Edwards will get first-team reps at this afternoon's practice, the first of many to come at St. John Fisher College this summer. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the second-team quarterback, with Brian Brohm running with the threes.
Gailey was careful to mention frequently that his "pecking order" means very little in the long term, and that it only exists so that the coaches can prepare each quarterback to the best of his abilities this summer. Practices and, more importantly, pre-season games will decide the ultimate starter, but there's also little question that Edwards will benefit slightly from this decision.
Matt Warren will be at the early portions of camp today, and he'll be reporting back as much as he can regarding lineups before he (regrettably) cuts out early. Lineup updates and such from MRW after the jump.
We'll just bullet-point some of the more noteworthy items rolling in from Bills camp:
- Demetrius Bell is running with the first team at left tackle over Ed Wang. Jamon Meredith is the second-team right tackle behind Cornell Green.
- Steve Johnson, we think, is getting first-team reps at wide receiver, with Fred Jackson at running back.
- Roscoe Parrish was the first slot receiver to rotate through.
- Shawn Nelson is the first-team tight end.
- Paul Posluszny, Keith Ellison, Nic Harris and Jon Corto are not participating.
- Andra Davis and Kawika Mitchell are the ones at inside linebacker.
- Terrence McGee and Leodis McKelvin are the ones at cornerback.
- Jairus Byrd and Donte Whitner are lining up as the starting safeties.
- Aaron Maybin and Chris Kelsay are lined up with the first team at OLB.
- The Bills are in full pads for this practice.
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Being the “veteran” of this group, it really should be his job to lose. If he is beaten out during camp, so be it, but the Bills are Trent’s team…for now.
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
Actually, it’s surprising to me that the last regime’s incumbent is the choice—and has been the defacto starter in most of our minds thus far. I’d think the new brass would want to separate from the last horror show as much as possible and go with their own selection. Maybe Gailey really does like what Edwards brings to the table. Maybe Levy wasn’t wrong for picking him off of Walsh’s recommendation.
Maybe is just maybe. The results from camp will show us all we need to know come September.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
or it could mean that Gailey doesn't want to get Brohm killed
waiting for the Oline to gel. Like you said……actions will speak louder than words very soon.
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Me too.
Gailey might have seen that Edwards was a round peg fit into a square hole offense designed for JP, even though Gailey hasn’t used a WCO in the past, hopefully he will incorporate elements of the Bill Walsh variety to produce the most with the players we have to overcome our woeful OL pass blocking,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Jul 30, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it so far fetched that Gailey likes Edwards? The guy is talented, it’s what Jauron did with him in terms of development that should be questioned.
Same with Bell, recipient of lot of criticism or just plain hate, but to me the guy is still that talented guy with potential to be a starter.
People tend to overreact too much sometimes.
It’s not at all far-fetched. I agree with everything you’ve said here. Though I think both are likely getting great experience to provide solid, veteran depth in the years ahead.
I sure don’t hate Trent Edwards. I’d actually like nothing more than for him to finally be the QB this organization has been searching for.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they knew they weren’t going to have much of a choice so they’re biding their time until they can draft their own guy.
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by thefourwinds on Jul 29, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Levy wasn’t wrong for picking him off of Walsh’s recommendation.
Levy didn’t pick him because of Walsh. Levy and Walsh spoke later and he said that he had a good QB. Certainly nothing that made him pick Edwards
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Hmm. I guess I never knew it was a post-draft conversation. Thanks for the tip!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Training Camp
Looking forward to MRW reporting the goings on at training camp. Getting kinda excited about upcoming season.
Matt’s only going to be there for part of practice today. I’ll be there tomorrow night, but I don’t think I’ll be there Saturday or Sunday. Matt will pick up again next week, so in short, don’t expect a lot from us in terms of live updates right away.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s admirable that updates are provided at all. It’s not an easy job in a live setting. It’s hard to see from distance and there’s a lot going on.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
It wasn’t too long ago that news didn’t come out until later that night, and not on the net much at all.
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And we were forced to watch the evening news for their water-down version of what happened.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Office Pool Now Open
Taking dates to predict the first missed game of the season for Trent, due to injury.
Bring on the 2010 NFL season! Go Bills!
bad Karma man!
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess your right. Office pool now closed. go Trent.
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by Undee on Jul 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, I take it, we don’t know if Brohm or Fitz is number 2?
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Though Brohm running with the 3’s may not do him any favors, right? I’d imagine the 3rd guy will lose some reps to Brown.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not expect that, actually – not until the coaches know WAY more about the first three guys, at any rate.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Also not surprising that Demetrius Bell is the first-team LT. Adding more lineup notes from MRW shortly, so refresh often.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
i’ll piggy back:
Byrd and Whitner safeties
McGee and McKelvin Corners
looks like Johnson at WR#2 and Roscoe first in slot
Fred at RB
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nelson at TE, but that was a give in
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wood in Pads?!!!?? and go
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the only thing this means is that Edwards isn't underwhelming to Gailey and co.
Which would have been a surprise anyways.
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Looks like the only thing this means is that Edwards isn’t underwhelming to Gailey and co.
I’ll buy into Edwards not being underwhelming, after the 4th preseason game.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
whitner at S as well..
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Have a feeling Whitner and Wilson will share a lot of the time this year
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I like Scott at SS. I feel he’s our best S in the box
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
slow
not mentally. physically. If I was Henne or Brady or Sanchez, I am putting it up to Marshall, Moss, and Edwards as often as possible, because even these big WR are faster than Scott. Why do you want a guaranteed liability in coverage at THE SAFETY position? When there is a safety behind him, DJ may have felt ok with him in the box. Course, how was our pass rush? How often were we beat deep with one deep safety? Why are we using safeties to bolster against the run? The less we use safeties to beat the run, the more they can play in coverage. In that circumstance, I want Whitner, or Wilson, out there with Byrd. Scott is not the future, and we are looking forward here guys.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Course, how was our pass rush?
same as this year – terrible
How often were we beat deep with one deep safety?
not very often from what I remember
Why are we using safeties to bolster against the run?
every team does that – especially on run downs
, I want Whitner, or Wilson, out there with Byrd. Scott is not the future, and we are looking forward here guys
i’m not sure any one of those guys is the future of that position
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
wow dude...
- we haven’t played a game or finished a practice and you are already calling our pass rush terrible…
- we didn’t get beat deep last year a whole lot, but it did happen. The reason it likely didnt happen much last year was because Scott was not playing SS. Scott is a HUGE coverage liability if he is covering anyone except a TE.
-if the 3-4 works the way it should and our DLine and LBs play the way they are supposed to, a SS in the box shouldn’t be needed every down. Negating Scott’s strengths
-You dont see the future secondary consisting of Byrd, Wilson, or Whitner?!? But you advocate starting Scott? Can’t disagree with you more on this…Byrd is the future at FS, and Wilson or Whitner will be here for a while (aka in the future), while Scott wont be.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson or Whitner
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How Do you Know....
our pass rush will be terrible this year?
Can I borrow your crystal ball?
it’s a hunch really. poor pass rush last year with the same personnel as last year but new positions. I try to remain optimistic, but doubt it’s going to be a consistent pass rush
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was Henne or Brady or Sanchez, I am putting it up to Marshall, Moss, and Edwards as often as possible, because even these big WR are faster than Scott. Why do you want a guaranteed liability in coverage at THE SAFETY position?
obviously his main job would be run responsibilities and TE coverage. His job isn’t to help over the top unless we are in an umbrella or cover-2. If we have our SS going man up with Moss or Marshall then disaster will happen. Your talking about 2 of hte best WRs in the game, chances of us doubling those guys most of hte time is 100%
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like B. Scott
but Scott would have trouble hanging with just about any WR. He is not fast; in fact, he is quite slow for a safety.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
there in lies my point
if he can’t keep up with the big guys, he certainly can’t help up top against the just plain fast ones. How often are we 2 deep? hard to say this year. but if we are to keep a zone based defensive system, and not rely on man to man coverage, anything but a base formation can be easily mismatched when bringing one safety down. perhaps we use this to bait them, and use Byrd to snatch that up, but that means the corners are basically man anyway, and you seem to think we won’t need man corners either. so i am not sure what you feel we intend to do about the pass… hope the opponent trips and falls or something? could work, but i like higher probability options.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
I understand his coverage liabilities against top WRs – past that, I feel he can cover any TE and play the run better than any saftey we have
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
but why do you want our safeties to do this
isn’t that the point? why upgrade the front 7 for run defense if you are gonna need an eighth in the box anyway?
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
safeties have different responsibilities depending on the defense called. if it’s a coverage defense then obviously he’s off – but if it’s a run defense then he would be in, in my scenario.
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so i guess you will be putting like, Whitner and/or Wilson and/or Byrd
in on pass plays, and then you will have Scott, and Whitner, or whoever… for running? is that the gist? Kinda cycle your guys to cater to the situation… like you would do on offense if attacking, you will counter in that way. Fine. That’s great. But I am gonna walk out with 3WR all day… and just audible back and forth depending on the personnel. That is what teams do. You need to find players that are capable of both, and THOSE are the PLAYERS… what we have been fielding is the depth. Or our “players” don’t know that they are yet, or “haven’t gotten the chance” or haven’t been coached up or whatever… and ultimately THIS year is the year to find out who our players are… so that NEXT year, we can add more players to compliment them. At least, that is the logic I would expect a NFL GM and/or Head Coach to want to go. That said… Scott is not the end all be all at SS, and a younger, faster Whitner gets the nod. I am not sure that there is even an argument there… except from you, and maybe Bryan Scott.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
the logic they want to go with. as in, CHIX wants to add people that don’t suck. That’s what i would think. figure out who we have now that doesn’t suck. so that later we can replace the guys who do defininately without a doubt suck at doing what they want to do. I’m not saying these arent amongst the best athletes in the world. But the fact is, that some of them aren’t good enough to keep up with the cream of the crop.
and we wants that cream, and lots of it. that part you GOTTA agree with. Right J2, the cream i say. and you wanting it. get it? do you get it? haha. that is funny. just giving it away folks… just, i mean, the hits keep rolling…. sorry, that’s the best Stewie impression I have for ya man.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i was hoping you would keep responding to your own post…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 30, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
every team does that – it’s nothing new, which is why I suggested it
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
disagree
when it comes to the SS. most teams prefer a guy who can do both, and leave him on the field.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
every team prefers a guy who can do both, which is why most teams have 2 guys doing it. there’s only a handful of those guys in the league and none are on our team
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 30, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't exacly naming "top receivers" by the way
i looked only at the biggest receiver on the team only in our division. i would think 6 games a year matters if we are gonna spend each one chasing a guy down from behind every play.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Chuck Wade just tweeted that Fitzpatrick is #2, which would make Brohm #3.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
they getting off to a fast start huh? running teams already and not individual drills? nice!!
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
For the big picture, sounds like Gailey is perhaps leaning towards drafting his own QB rather than working with Brohm.
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I guess I understand it, but at the same time I don’t get why he wouldn’t want to try and develop him.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Its the first day of TC!
Please dont try to assemble a big picture yet…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why I said perhaps.
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To much rosterbation
Will make you go blind.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
lol
Very funny mob.
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Steve Johnson's finally going to get his chance
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A+
I like this lineup so far. It’ll interesting when Spiller shows up what they do with him, and Schobel all of a sudden?!
Circle them wagons!
Looks like their plan is for Meredith to eventually be the replacement RT
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
If Meredith ended up being a solid RT that would be a great acquisition
even though it leaves one possible answer to LT more or less unsettled.
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Kiper already has the Bills taking a LT next April.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
drafting at what # ?
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I didn’t see that. It was some related link, which I didn’t even bother to click on. I didn’t recognize the name either. Though I don’t pay a ton of attention to college ball any more.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
there won't be a good tackle....
left at pick #32… :-)
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
I applaud this.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
If Bell plays well this year and Meredith takes over on the right, our line could finally be something to be excited about.
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I think Bell may get a ton of experience to be used in future seasons as a reserve. I still think this team needs to suck it up and take a LT in the 1st round.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
LT, QB, DE....same list, different year
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On a opening drive
Where the Bills fans of tomorrow dream of TDs
And wins for a change
I actually think they need them in that order, to boot.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
QB, OLB, WR. Edwards and Carrington are good for a while. Get depth in FA. I still feel Bell has a good shot at being well above average. Maybin needs help even if he develops and Lee needs help.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
Good Point
It totally depends on the draft class though.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 30, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm betting....
you’re wrong.
Did you hear Gailey commenting on what a superb athlete Bell is, his speed, his foot work?
All this guy needs, IMHO, is a full training camp with the first unit, and he will improve greatly this year.
Just remember that Jason Peters was an UDFA tight end, Bell was a 7th round developmental project tackle who got thrown to the wolves because OBD cut Walker at the end of camp last year. I’m sure if Peters was thrown into the circumstances Bell was last year people would have been calling him to be axed also.
Nice intro to your rebuttal. I’m aware of all the circumstances, and i’m also aware we’ve been reminded that no matter how good a player is, his job is never secure (Jason Peters).
Just as you find fault with my comment, it also may be too early to say Bell is guaranteed to improve and they’re not looking to upgrade from a 7th-rounder who they didn’t even select.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It's never wrong to upgrade.
It’s called stacking players to some coaches and GM’s. Who says our next LT has to be a first round pick. Some players are more coachable than others regardless of where they were selected ie Kyle Williams.
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I agree with you. I will, however, look at the success of teams taking guys in the top of the first round. Outside of Buffalo and Oakland, I struggle to see too many teams that whiffed on their LT selection. Hell, even Gallery is proving to be fairly good away from the LT position.
But yes, the guy doesn’t have to be a 1st-rounder. I’d certainly be happy if they found one, and took a chance on, in the first round.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
D**N!
Why don’t we give Bell a shot. He’s played 8 games, poorly yes, but eight games. Not to mention he had almost no college experience to speak of at LT much less practice time. His play last year, I feel, was amazing given the amount of development time he was given. Every rookie LT from last year played poorly with the exception of Oher who spent a lot of time on the right side prior to switching over. I’m not saying Bell is gonna be Jonathon Ogden, but I don’t see Jason Peters type production as any kind of long shot. Combined with Wood, Levitre, Meredith (if he pans out well at RT) and a better C (Hang just doesn’t have the power), our OL could be very dominant it 2-3 yrs.
In the very least he deserves this year.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
Sure, Bell deserves an opportunity. I do feel that at the NFL level, the “aww shucks kid” mentality is few and far between. By this I mean, sure it’s too bad that Bell has struggled and didn’t really play much ball in college, but that’s his mountain to climb—and the team’s kindling they’ll use to roast him with if things go really bad.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Random Remember the Titans quote:
“We will be perfect in every aspect of the game. You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss a blocking assignment, you run a mile. You fumble the football, and i will break my foot off in your John Brown hind parts and then you will run a mile. Perfection. Let’s go to work. "
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
love it!!! and rec'd
and hopefully the same attitude will prevail post-jauron….
Cornell Green to C.J. Spiller-
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by TexasBillsFanatic on Jul 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol. When did you become the Rumblings’s Abed?
by hightower_mc on Jul 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just like keeping you fellas on your toes.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 29, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
keep the quotes coming cali
but go easy with the forrest gump ones, they make good points but the humor takes away from your sincerity. REC’D
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its all humorous......
its never supposed to be serious.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 30, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nic Harris
I know he’s injured, what’s gonna come of him? That’s one crowded and talented LB corps already
Circle them wagons!
That’s one crowded and talented LB corps already
lol – sorry, but you might want to rephrase that!!
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
10-4.
yup – I think the ILBs between Poz, Mitchell and Davis are actually pretty solid
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by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell is undersized
and will likely be the backup to Poz. I am curious who ends up behind Davis.
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~Bruce Coslet
how is Mitchell undersized? he’s 6-1 253 – that’s bigger than Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, London Fletcher, Jon Beason, Poz, Vilma etc….
he’s anything but undersized
between the 3 of them there is a solid ILB core
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
his bigger than Davis too – which means he’s bigger than both the starting ILBs right now
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 29, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't you read what i wrote
because i was discussing the MIKE position. NOT the Will position, which is obviously where Mitchell will be backing up Poz. I wanted to konw who is Behind Davis…. and that would be Moats. The “prototypical” size of a Mike LB in a3-4 is roughly 260-280. I realize he is listed 253, but i see that as a higher estimate than his usual playingweight which is far closer to 240-245, like Poz (237).
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Ren
You were wrong. Its ok. The prototypical size of an ILB is not 260-280, show me a starting ILB who is that big in the entire league. Mitchell is a great size and speed for an ILB and started at MLB for a super bowl winning team.
by Bill from LI on Jul 29, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
right right
The prototypical size of an ILB is not 260-280
agreed. i was thinking OLB. and that was were Mitchell was before, and he was small.
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~Bruce Coslet
just kinda thinking he was filling in for Poz due to his injury
and that it may not be his spot. He could end up on the strong side in place of Kelsay now, for all we know. I am sceptical at least, that we can install a 3-4 in one year with our current roster.
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~Bruce Coslet
The "prototypical" size of a Mike LB in a3-4 is roughly 260-280.
Uh, whoa, what? 260’s about the max of a modern NFL linebacker. You’ll be really, really hard-pressed to find a 280-pound linebacker. If you’re in the 250s, you’re doing really well from a size standpoint.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
see above.
that said, i am still under the belief he will be behind Poz on the Depth chart, and so, not behind Davis…
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~Bruce Coslet
He’s definitely better suited to play the weak side, but it has more to do with his playing style than how much he weighs.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
in other words
he is more likely to make the tackle than take on the block for Poz to make the tackle. the fact that i began “he is undersized” was going to be meant as he is small by OLB standard, and with Davis starting at Mike, and Poz at the will, he gets defaulted to depth, when he is our only starting veteran carryover with experience in a 3-4. he isn’t even going to be on the field, whereas we have Kelsay and Maybin at OLB where they have no experience at all… and that was the direction i wanted to take that. its good to have depth and people pushing competition but i just wish we had better options for OLB. i am ok with maybin out there as a blitzer, or on run downs even (at OLB) but i am concerned about coverage.
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Moats man...
Moats is the guys being groomed for Davis’s spot…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking...
he may have him confused with Keith Ellison.
wrong
don’t even get me started on either of the Ellison boys. i know who they are. and believe it or not, i do know that Keith is our Ellison, aside from a single mistype from a year ago… (idk if Brian remembers that or not but i had a bit of an Ellison tantrem: Most of my associates have wanted bigger LBs for years, and yet one is arguing currently about a guy we already agreed was too small (Dude, when we picked Mitchell up as a free agent; and paraphrasing was that we “had gotten a veteran and he was bigger but he wasn’t exactly Ware”and i was in total agreement with him)
ultimately we don’t have a lot of 3-4 sized LBs, and we will play a faster version, hybrid this year, while we transition over the next couple. we can’t replace the whole team in a year. Harris is too small to play ILB in most 3-4 systems as well, and would be better suited to drop weight again and play SS, or add 7-10 more of lean to be a very solid coverage OLB
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Dude!
Name a player other than Ware who is or can be DeMarcus Ware! He’s a once every 5-10 years type of physical freak. Huge, fast, agile and nothing but muscle… not to mention his wingspan.
Kawika is plenty big enough for the 3-4. He’s a little short, but his build is very wide and thick, by far thicker than Davis and Andra is a career “thumper”.
Confucius say, "Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger."
i know who ware is
and we were talking about the mitchell pickup, at the time of the pickup, and we liked the move, as he was bigger than our 220 lb linebackers who should be safeties, and that he was a veteran and that he had come from a winning program. BUT….. BUT BUT BUT…. he was no demarcus ware.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't make the reference.
someone else did. he was just there for it, and we ALL agreed. that is what i was saying. i was thinking of him in terms of OLB for a minute and bumbled what i said. I am sure you never make mistakes, so i will just allow this to be another example for you to just witness, and be glad that it doesn’t happen to you, too.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what
You make mistakkes? :)
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
still a friggin human
i hate it. wish they came up with something that was just, idk, better. but until they make that perfect being that is always perfect at everything all the time, then i guess i will have to just settle for being the next closest thing. haha
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Note
Larry Foote, the “thumper” everyone wanted in FA, is listed at 6’ 1", 239 lbs. I’m sure he’s bigger now, but not much bigger than Kawika.
James Farrior, 6’2" 243 lbs.
Patrick Willis, 6’1" 240 lbs.
Size is not Kawika’s issue.
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lol Ware is an OLB Mitchell is a ILB. Yes for an OLB he’s SHORT not small
by Bill from LI on Jul 29, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well damn that was quick.
and yes……
TWSS
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Edwards at QB, Bell at LT, Whitner at SS, it all points to Gailey’s patience. It’s becoming more and more clear that Gailey’s not got a nervous twitch. He looks to tinker more with scheme and the offense itself before he makes personnel judgments and uproots the current state of our depth chart. He believes in his ability to install a workable program.
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by Dyl on Jul 29, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
It is only day 1, but you could be on to something. Trent has shown signs of being competent in the past, so possibly after watching all the gamefilm, Gailey has figured out how to play to Trent’s strengths. Hopefully he can avoid all the weaknesses while he is at it.
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
No shockers here. Just look at the three guys' history:
PRESEASON
Brian Brohm – 50 passer rating, 54% completion%, 4.3 yards per pass, 0 TDs, 4 INTs
Trent Edwards – 94 passer rating, 69% completion%, 6.6 yards per pass, 3 TDs, 3 INTs
Ryan Fitzpatrick – 81 passer rating, 65% completion%, 6.1 yards per pass, 4 TDs, 4 INTs
REGULAR SEASON
Brian Brohm (0/1 WL) – 43 passer rating, 59% completion%, 5.0 yards per pass, 0 TDs, 2 INTs
Trent Edwards (14/16 WL) – 78 passer rating, 61% completion%, 6.7 yards per pass, 27 TDs, 25 INT
Ryan Fitzpatrick (8/14/1 WL) – 68 passe rating, 58% completion%, 5.6 yards per pass, 26 TDs, 27 INTs
None of these guys have impressive resumes, but Edwards looks like the better QB, and Brohm looks like the worst QB. However, it is a loose pecking order, and Brohm will have plenty of opportunities to dethrone Trent.
i like all these moves
i like where all these players are slotted except kelsay. i just dont like him in general especially as an OLB in the 3-4. i like bell’s upside at LT. i also like giving mckelvin a chance to start, although florence has been really good. can never have too many good db’s. i like pairing byrd and whitner could be a dynamic safety combo allowing whitner to play more to his strengths. really hope maybin can provide some pressure b/c if he can’t i don’t know where the pass rush will come from.
“The Bills are in full pads” Did they start that way last training camp? I’m guessing no. Did anyone notice any difference from the start of camp this year vs. last? Since I live in Central PA I was only able to attend one practice last year. It seemed very easy and the players were going through the scripted motions with very little coaching (with the exception of Bobby April). In-fact, I looked hard for DJ with no luck.
Keepin' the faith!
You're right about April
At last year’s camp, I thought he was very active and vocal every time the horn sounded and they broke from O vs. D to a special teams drill. I liked April. Miss him, particularly since DeHaven has kind of gone on record in an interview that his style is much more conservative. DeHaven apparently wants to play to the strenghths of his playmakers, rather than use gimmick plays.
by Defensewinsgames on Jul 29, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Pads and no shorts were a very welcome sign to me.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
OL Line
OK who lined up as the rest of the 1st string OL. ie guards and center???
No surprises – Bell, Levitre, Hangartner, Wood, Green.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No surprise?? Wood in pads and practicing?
by Roger Shatzer on Jul 29, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wood was practicing on June 25 during OTAs – so no, not surprising at all.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Woods is BACK!!
SWEET!
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winners and losers
Winner(s): Jets, pats, Dolphins
Loser(s): DirecTV…there’s a better chance I’ll renew that bout with pneumonia I had than there is of me blowing $300 to watch year for of Trent Edwards. Strike One, Chan Gailey.
"Godzilla is coming so get ready." -abayarde
I called to cancel my renewal and was instantly given $20 credits on my bill for the next 7 months…effectively bringing my sunday ticket cost down to $160. Much more reasonable to me
Being a Bills fan the last decade is a lot like being a man with E.D....sometimes you get excited too soon just be disappointed in the end, and other times...you just don't get excited at all
nice
That happened with the baseball ticket for me…$160 is still too much to watch Trent Edwards (although, it might sway me to keep it for gambling purposes).
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WOW!
When did DirecTV hire Russ Brandon? Seems like a marketing scheme he would come up with.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Jul 30, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You realize he’s not the actual starter yet, right?
by Brian Galliford on Jul 29, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you realize Brohm isn't gonna beat him, right?
; ) JK……. NO DISRESPECT…. disclaimer, disclaimer:
I know you are holding out for him to just like, tear it up out there, and show everyone that they were silly to ever think that he wasn’t good enough, and there will be like a big cinderella story with cheeseheads getting angry and like with Brohm on all the players shoulders, and then the thing is though, that Matt Flynn? right? MATT FLYNN? Wait, his name is Matt, right? …..Idk man. Sounds to me like you are living in some fantasy land that college kids would be happy to hang in for long long periods of time; cuz there’s drugs there. there HAS to be. HAHA : )
all in fun. i promise. if like you said, Brohm WINS THE STARTING JOB, then maybe that is just because he is simply the better player with the better brighter future, and we can hang on to Trentative as a backup and still develop all guys concerned, and know who are starter is. I am ok with that. I would be just as ok if Brohm was a backup or gone though. I think that when it comes to long term, we are probably still looking. Unless Edwards becomes Drew Brees overnight, I think that we are looking for our own Philip Rivers. (both former Chargers before anyone jumps all over me for who or why i picked the guys i did. )
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you are saying TE is not the ACTUAL starter.. right
and then, i said,
Brohm isn’t gonna beat him, right?
as a joke.
and then followed up with a little story of how you wanna Bill-eve in Brohm, because you had said that you would be happy if Brohm won the job outright in a previous post, and thus a funny story. and then follow up with the fact that i agree to some extent that if Brohm gets the nod, it is because he is the better chance, and its build or bust this year, and who cares, cuz we probably pick another QB next year no matter what.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
and that you would have to be on drugs to believe in Brohm because Flynn beat him. Flynn. Yup. Matt Flynn. I CHECKED. It IS Matt. for sure. and he beat him. outright. straight up. Practice Squaded. so… he really has to prove me inaccurate. and i hope this motivates him to. can’t hurt. if it shatters his ego he can’t cut it anyway.
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~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
I think we can all rest assured that Brohm won’t suffer any hurt feelings, or get motivated by your word dump. Not sure why all the negativity towards Brohm but I wish him best of luck and may the better QB win. Not sure what your calling accurate? The facts speak for themselves, why dump on the guy? And yeah occasionally I’m on drugs (rec). :)
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
none of the negativity is actually towards him really. as i said above
all in fun. i promise. if like you said, Brohm WINS THE STARTING JOB, then maybe that is just because he is simply the better player with the better brighter future, and we can hang on to Trentative as a backup and still develop all guys concerned, and know who are starter is.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
But who said Brohm was gonna win starting job? It’s all good, just a little confused were you were coming from. Later, GO BILLS!!!
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i was aluding to a previous statement
that Brian had made where he felt that Brohm, could potentiall win the job throughout camp, and he would welcome this, as he feels like it may be better for the team, as he doesn’t seem to be a definitive Trent Edwards supporter
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~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know where you think I said that, but I assure you I haven’t.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
no?
i thought i recalled a statement you had made, along the lines of the fact that if Brohm ended up the starter, it was because he earned it, and you would be on board with him as the starter because he had stepped up and earned it. I don’t disagree with this… i just doubt very much it is even possible. So, to whomever said it…. YOU’RE WRONG! ; )
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Yeah, I might have said that about Brohm, but I DEFINITELY did NOT say this:
he feels like it may be better for the team, as he doesn’t seem to be a definitive Trent Edwards supporter
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i am in no way trying to infer for you
or put words in your mouth, i thought that you seemed to be of that line of thinking. I believe i have read that in general you don’t feel any of them are the answer, but i thought you less Trent and more Brohm is all… my mistake.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
only i meant "OUR" starter... not are starter
for those who care about grammar, of which i am generally on. Chris Brown not so much, but me, I try to make the effort. That guy needs to start proof-reading. Even moreso than I. Also, learn to use a comma; There is a run on sentence in literally every single article. Maybe that is why he demoted himself from being called the “lead editor” to the lead reporter. I am not certain the heirarchy of that particular facet of the organization, but someone needs to be reading these things before they get posted.
Unless maybe I am the ONE and only hater out there, who wants to see well written articles coming from the site that is arguably one of the very first stops on a devoted fans list of sites to catch up on the Bills info, once they have exausted every bit of information and blathered as much as they possibly can by first visiting Buffalo Rumblings, of course!!???!! Is this not what the average fan, aka ALL OF US HERE does?!!!!??! WELL I SURE DO. So write better articles that make sense so I don’t have to read them over and again to make sense of them, and then get angry because it isn’t even that interesting anyway, and that your phrasing does little to make it sound any more professional; it is like simply inserting smart words in a dumb conversation in order to convince the rest of the idiots around that you must be the smart one. GAAAAH There are 32 NFL Official Team Webpages. IN THE WORLD… That means we should have one of the top 50 sports writers in the world for our team… right? i mean, by default, can’t teams just go hire guys that write amazing articles and stuff? Have like, a wicked cool webpage, and like, IDK, make you WANT to go there.. not just NEED to? I’m just saying. I mean, if ya need some more staff, i bet there are people that need jobs. I would be one maybe, but you can never know what i said here. or else there could maybe be some friction, and we don’t need that.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Your funny, funny in a good way. Ramble on fellow Rumbler! Later…
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i think i am gonna just change my signature to a different Chris Brown run on sentence
i can do so daily. maybe more often given the number of articles he is gonna pump out for camp. i suppose i could cut him some slack, but like i said, if it is too much workload, there has to be a way to delegate some of it, to SOMEBODY. And if he is using a program to dictate his phrasing or something… quit it. Or at least read it after. Something. that’s all i am saying.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I would just like to add how awesome it would be if the Bill did steal, and go on to produce big things with Brian Brohm. Awesome simply as a counter to what GB when they got Favre from Atlanta. It would complete the circle, so to speak.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...I've followed the rhetoric this spring
…I just don’t believe Fitz and Brohm will get a real chance playing exclusively with second teamers. Edwards is simply untalented, dim as a field general, and wildly unproductive and no coaching will change that. It’s a shame we’re being subjected to this ridiculous hail mary project yet again. Personally (and I hope I’m wrong against all logic), I just won’t PAY to see this mess unfold again in 2010. Cheers if you have the stomach for it, but I don’t…if Edwards was a horse, he’d have been at the glue factory last January because horse owners know when to cut ties with a failed investment. Yet, here’s Trent Edwards, he of the charmed existence, wasting yet another spot in the Breeder’s Cup…I’ll pass (er, check down on 3rd and 11).
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LOL
I feel ya! I just hope a new system miraculously propels one of our QB’s to HOFer status!:) Rest assured theres next years draft if that idea fails!
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by buffalobacker on Jul 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey MRW
You could have listed Trent Edwards in your cliche threads. I just got done listening to his presser… and literally everything he said was a cliche.
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But…most everything I hear out of NFL players’ interview is cliche. Terrell Owens and Clinton Portis, now that’s different.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions
haha true. Just seemed to knock about every cliche out of the park on that presser.
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It’s all he can do right now. Plus, I think they know when the spit out cliches, there’s little firepower for the news outlets to use. Everyone hates it, i’m sure—well, other than the player that feels he’s been misinterpreted by the media.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No O-line
The Bills main concern was, and still is the offensive line. They have done little to address that need. That being said, the offense has little chance of being productive regardless of who the quarterback is. Marino, Kelly, Elway, Montana, Bradshaw; none of them in their prime could make winners of the Bills. Until the obvious is problem is solved new generations of sickening symptoms will emerge and leave Bills fans bitter yet again. A new front office, same ineptness.
by Pietro Sirianni on Jul 30, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions
Montana & Marino
They would have been fine with this line, they got the ball out quick and on the money, if you used a WCO.
Kelly would have got creamed, early career Elway would be so-so because he could make plays with his feet, late career Elway would be a bust.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Jul 30, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw
He wasn’t even that good of a QB, he would totally suck with this OL.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Jul 30, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Comments like this literally make me want to rip my brain out of my skull and dunk it in a vat of acid. Just to stop the pain.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Oddly enough, the brain has no pain receptors. Your skull on the other hand…..
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
negativity boggles the mind
geez….the guy has not had much to work with….even so, he’s almost 50 percent
winning percentage (1 loss becomes win he is 15-15) as a 3 yr player….
so he finally gets a veteran competent head coach to work with, who knows
offensive football….
i am sure gailey sees more in edwards for good reasons.
if you are writing off trend already you are writing off gailey as a head coach.
seems silly at this point to be so damn negative
If being realistic coincides with being negative then thats just how it is. The truth doesn’t always leave room for optimism.
by Pietro Sirianni on Jul 30, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats not bad
He played in a possible 30 of 48 games. Wait winning 50 percent of your games with bad numbers is still horrible.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
For me it boils down to his toughness. Trent needs to prove he’s strong enough both mentally and physcially to handle the demands that being a starting QB brings.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
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