Bills Go Run-Heavy During First Night Practice
The Buffalo Bills have completed their first set of two-a-days this summer after two practices today. The morning session (closed to the public) featured a much-publicized scuffle between Aaron Maybin and Geoff Hangartner, while tonight's practice session was well-attended, if not exactly action-packed.
Chris Kelsay and Paul Posluszny missed tonight's practice session with their respective injuries. Demetrius Bell was also a spectator as the team continues to ease him back into the lineup. Marcus Stroud was in full pads and participating after missing the morning session, but second-team defensive end Spencer Johnson did leave the field with what appeared to be a minor ding. Prior to practice, the Bills waived second-year linebacker Nic Harris (he failed his physical), adding Donovan Woods to the roster in his place. Woods was a college quarterback who converted to safety and then linebacker, and has spent time with Pittsburgh and Dallas professionally.
I was in attendance at St. John Fisher College tonight, and let's just say that camp isn't overly different under new head coach Chan Gailey. There are differences, but practice is still practice, and watching practice is still kind of boring. Plenty of observations to flesh out after the jump.
Chan Gailey's Bills
This was the first practice I've seen run by Gailey, so while I've hardly seen enough to say "this is how a Chan Gailey practice is run, every time, without fail," there were noticeable differences. The pace was slower between sessions, the energy was higher in those sessions, and it seemed like players were given a lot more one-on-one attention. Things seemed more deliberate tonight, and there was a lot of chatter on the field.
The team started out with some walk-through sessions; the defense worked on run fits and coverages, while the offense fiddled with some route combinations and verbiage. From there, skill position players separated from linemen for a bit, and the two groups worked on some fundamentals. A brief special teams session - highlighted by some fake field goal tries - was followed by some stretching. More positional work followed, and it was only into the second half of the practice that the team started to come back together. 9-on-7 work alongside more line drills was followed by a chat session (more on that momentarily), and the practice ended with 11-on-11 work.
Buffalo spent a great deal of time working on the running game tonight, on both sides of the ball, and only really let the passing game get its shot at glory in the latter sections of practice.
With about a half-hour to go in the practice, the entire team congregated in an end zone, and Gailey addressed them all for a full five minutes, at least. Might have been ten. A few players were lined up in a field goal formation, but they never did anything. Gailey was pretty vocal during that time frame; I've no idea what was said or if it will prove beneficial, but I'd never seen Buffalo's previous coaching staff do anything like that.
Player Observations
Be warned that I have only two eyes, and was situated (by choice) near one end zone, so while I got to see some linemen work in full-team activities, I spent most of my time tonight watching quarterbacks, receivers, running backs, tight ends and defensive backs. If I don't mention a guy, it's because I didn't really pay attention to that guy tonight. I'll just go position-by-position to make it easier on everyone.
Quarterback: About what you'd expect. Trent Edwards was OK, Ryan Fitzpatrick was a roller coaster ride of strangeness, Brian Brohm was an enigma, and Levi Brown didn't get to play much. Edwards was clearly the best QB on the field; he made some nice throws with good zip down the middle of the field, and didn't really make any bad decisions. Fitzpatrick, as usual, would follow a brilliant throw with a little league throw. Brohm didn't do much to stand out; his arm strength is really suspect on deeper throws, if you ask me. I liked Brown's arm, but the ball still comes out of his hand funny - though not nearly as strangely as it did at Troy. He's a long way off from being a serious factor here.
Running Back: Fred Jackson was Fred Jackson. Marshawn Lynch looked excellent, though he didn't get a ton of work during team drills - he ran with a lot of energy and spunk, and was working his butt off tonight. I thought Joique Bell looked a little better than Chad Simpson; Bell's got a little kick to him when he gets to the second level. The Bills are obviously deep here; lots of good options, even without the rookie in tow.
Wide Receiver: The raw talent of this group is apparent, but none of the younger receivers stood out in a big way tonight. All made nice catches - Felton Huggins and Chad Jackson had some nice ones on the sideline - and all looked pretty choppy getting in and out of cuts. There were mis-reads, there were instances where receivers weren't on the same page as quarterbacks, and there were some dropped passes (Huggins had a particularly bad one). Steve Johnson continues to get work as the No. 2 receiver, and he's probably the most consistent of the group. David Nelson is a really smooth athlete and looked good running in the slot. Naaman Roosevelt looked good running routes as well.
Tight End: This is a good group. Shawn Nelson is on the ground a lot - diving, falling, stretching for poor throws - but is in a world all his own amongst this group running routes. Derek Schouman looked good catching the ball, as did Jonathan Stupar, who made some nice plays in the seam tonight. Michael Matthews, quite frankly, looks awful running, and dropped a couple of passes. He's a huge guy, though, and looked solid in blocking drills.
Offensive Line: Jamon Meredith and Cornell Green were the "starting" tackles, and neither looked great. Buffalo's pass rush was very good tonight, as quarterbacks were frequently left to fend for themselves on bootlegs. Ed Wang was torched on multiple occasions as well. I didn't spend a lot of time watching the offensive line, so I'll leave it at this: don't sleep on the name Cordaro Howard. He's a very, very good athlete.
Defensive Line: I don't think I spent a second watching the ends, but I wanted to get a good look at Torell Troup and Lonnie Harvey, the only true zero-technique players on the roster. Here's what I like about Troup: he's a throwback. He's a bowling ball of a player - short and squatty with a ridiculously low center of gravity and tremendous upper body strength - and I'm pretty sure he was the only non-kicker on the field that didn't have gloves or tape on his arms/hands. Bare arms, bare hands, crushing interior linemen. He's going to be a lot of fun to watch. Harvey, meanwhile, has a ways to go - I saw him struggling to get off blocks, and he's not very technically sound. His power, too, is very apparent, however.
Linebackers: I didn't watch the inside guys at all, really, so this will be restricted to the outside guys. I thought Chris Ellis looked great moving around, rushing the passer, and seemed totally in his element. He lined up on the strong side, and also lined up on the line of scrimmage in 4-3 looks - which essentially are 3-4 looks, with the strong-side OLB in a three-point stance. Aaron Maybin looked really fluid in blitz looks and had some nice rushes as well, and even looked pretty stout against the run (albeit against Wang). Reggie Torbor looks like a really tough guy, but I think it's pretty clear that he's a run-down defender. Danny Batten looks like a super athlete, and Antonio Coleman flashed a bit of burst I didn't see too often at Auburn, as well. Both Batten and Coleman were flipped between weak and strong side, so they're obviously being asked to learn multiple positions. Batten looked much better in coverage than Coleman.
Defensive Backs: Leodis McKelvin got a lot of reps with the first and second teams, and he made a lot of aggressive plays on the ball in 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 work. He looked a lot better than Drayton Florence tonight; those two are likely competing for a starting spot opposite Terrence McGee. Ashton Youboty and Ellis Lankster were active tonight, as well; Lankster is legitimate, folks. I wouldn't be shocked if he pushed Reggie Corner for the dime role. Cary Harris had a nice pluck off the ground for a pick on a deflection. I watched John Destin for a bit, as his athleticism is intriguing, but he didn't really stand out in any way. At safety, I thought Donte Whitner played really fast tonight and looked great during blitz packages. None of the other safeties really stood out.
Specialists: Not much to report here, as Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman and Garrison Sanborn are already sure bets for the roster. Lindell looked great during a kicking segment, while Moorman hit Geoff Hangartner for a "touchdown" on a fake field goal that never would have worked in a real game. Bruce DeHaven had a bunch of fake packages installed tonight, including a bizarre one in which Moorman ran an option pitch to Lindell, which might have been less effective only if Drew Bledsoe were receiving the pitch.
All in all, the defense was better than the offense, but both sides had their moments. The practice was hardly exciting, but the guys, to a man, worked really hard, were very chatty with each other, and the high energy was appreciated. Questions and comments, as always, are welcome.
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I know you couldn't possibly see everyone...
but was Hardy a non factor in tonight’s session or a non participant?
I don’t know why but I’ve been as giddy as a school girl about Torell Troup since a few days after the draft. Most of it can be attributed to post draft grades and blind faith in Nix and co but I’ve had dreams about him being as dominant as Vince Wilfork and Jamal Williams. Do you see him ever reaching that point?
In Brian's tweets
Lots of short routes – sevens, digs, ins & outs. Huggins has nice hands. Hardy the slowest by a mile.
Ouch
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Hardy caught a lot of underneath stuff tonight, and worked from the slot quite a bit. He did have one nice catch in traffic over I believe Ellis Lankster, in which he basically just boxed him out to catch the ball. He uses his frame very well.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris Ellis
I have liked this kid since last year pre-season. Great to hear he looked good. I believed he would earn the starting role before Kelsay’s injury and think he could be a big surprise. While he might be a semi weak run defender at DE he should be fine as a run stuffing strong side OLB. And he can apply a lot more pressure on the QB than Kelsay. He was quite the athlete at VT, a guy who made some good athletic special team plays there too. He could be the LB wildcard we’ve been looking for.
Whitner
Awesome to hear that he was playing fast (and hopefully well!). The combo of him and Byrd has me friggin pumped!
Cornell Green to C.J. Spiller-
"You’re all clear, kid! Now let’s win this thing and go home!"
by TexasBillsFanatic on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
I was intrigued by this
David Nelson is a really smooth athlete and looked good running in the slot
Thats a big dude to have lined up in the slot.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
He actually doesn’t look that big – he’s very, very thin. His height is not obvious, either, like it is with Hardy.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
6'5" is still a big slot.
I am not against it. Chargers use Naanee now that he has dropped the weight he couldn’t keep on as a TE, but then he is closer to Steve Johnson sized… who is only a few inches taller than Reed. Either way, as they said, and i have repeated ad nauseum, they want “big guys throwing to big guys” and the more large targets, the better for an accurate QB, which is where we are starting… I like it. Cut Hardy if he can’t keep up, free up the spot for an Easley, Nelson, or Roosevelt… can’t hurt us to keep someone that just outplays another, even if he was a 2nd round pick. Bust is a bust, cut your losses.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Jul 31, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Interestingly....
Thomas and Kelly in Wash, and Sweed in Pitt, others that many of us were high on the same year Hardy came out, are also on the bubble with their respective teams…
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
the WR version of the class of '83 they are not :)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
yeah, but i feel like Thomas still has a chance.
but he was the smallest, right? Big WRs have a larger transition to me than an average WR, because they play no press in college, so they have to learn to get off that initial contact, and with a bigger body it takes so much longer for them to gain momentum, and that means the QB never has the chance to get the ball out. They really need to work harder IMO just to be where most 5’11"-6’2" guys are a “happy medium” between having good speed, as well as good size, with good body control. If a big guy has strong hands as well, they could make for a very good receiver.
I still wish we had taken Thomas, though he is far more of a “finesse” player to me… and we have Lee. We need a big ‘ol brute. Not an ogor or oaf like Hardy has appeared to be. For having such a good 40 time at his size, he looks like he is moving in slow motion. actually in rewind. I am still a Steve Johnson supporter, though if he ended up moving inside to the slot when Easley came out on the field, for examply in a 3wr or 4wr set, it wouldn’t surprise or disappoint me. In my eyes, we have as many capable weapons as in our backfield as some teams have on their roster. If Chan can develop a system for these guys, the way it should be, they could end up as special as any other team to make it to the playoffs or big game in recent years.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
I would still like to see Hardy get some jump balls in the endzone,
but yeah…..he hasn’t shown much so far. I wonder how much injuries have hurt his development? Even though he is a TE, could Shawn Nelson having a strong camp spell the end for Hardy?
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
I feel like, yes that is likely
with how much we want to run, as it is in our best interest, there is more need to carry TEs than there had been. So I feel that the lost roster spot from TE is likely to mean less WR, and we KNOW that Lee is here. Other than that, with a good camp, we could see a TOTAL of 5 WR, and it is just as likely in my eyes to be Johnson, Easley, Nelson, and Roosevelt accompanying the aforementioned Evans, as it is to be Johnson, Roscoe, Hardy, and other… when Roscoe and Hardy have not shown me anything to date to make me want to spend more for less.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
to tell you the truth
I really wouldn’t mind seeing shawn nelson doing some work from the outside receiver position. He’s got the athleticism to do it, and regardless of anything people could say, that dude knows how to use his body and go get the ball
I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.
too slow for outside
why do that when you can use him lined up in slot or on the line, where he is still a mismatch to the LBs and safeties. at 240+ there are not many, if any, WR that size. they make them TEs. I definately think you could see him in the slot some though, particularly on the goal line.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
WR
I can live w/no Hardy, good to hear the young guys are making the competition tough!! Also, like hearing J Bell is running hard!! Football, feed me seymour!!
That was not a laterall!!!
by brendar of the bills people on Jul 31, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not much to point out about practice, I as a kid in a candy store as it was my first training camp. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Steve Johnson, Lonnie Harvey, and Aaron Maybin signed my football. We drove 6 hours from Maryland to see practice tonight, and it as a blast. If anyone as on the fence about coming to training camp, I believe it is well worth the time just to experience the environment.
That sounds like a great time
I hope to make one some day
Act like a sober human being, not a drunk Internet username. -- Brian Galliford
by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 31, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Great Stuff Brian
the linebacker segment is especially reassuring. Here’s hoping we have a really effective pass rush this season.
"They have a lady who stands there and looks at every piece of cheese on my taco." -SIR Charles Barkley
Ellis
Thank god there’s some good news in the outside linebacker corps. I’ve been pretty apathetic toward ellis, given how useless he’s been the last two seasons. If Brian thinks he looks to be in his element however, then it just may be true. He was touted as being a SOLB for a 3-4 coming out of VT, and with a 4.56 40, he has the speed to do it. Even if he is just an average player at this position in ’10 I will be absolutely stoked.
Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.
Thanks Brian
Why can’t you go to every practice?!?
Good to hear Gailey doing coaching, and not just overseeing. Watching some of the videos on BB.com, he really has a nice presence and seems to really know what he wants to get done. That’s refreshing. Let’s hope it translate to something tangible in the W column.
About what you’d expect. Trent Edwards was OK, Ryan Fitzpatrick was a roller coaster ride of strangeness, Brian Brohm was an enigma, and Levi Brown didn’t get to play much.
So that’s the A performance out of this group, right?
Watching Brown throw really reminds me of Jay Cutler and his poor throws. Cutler has a tendency to throw a ball where the nose dips down and just sinks. I don’t really know how he can consistently throw that ball, but he does. I see some of that in Brown too, just without as much ‘ooomph’.
It’s kind of odd hearing David Nelson in the slot. Usually you see smaller, quicker guys in that role. I think I’d rather have a guy like him try earning a PS job on the outside, where he can really utilize his size over small CB’s.
Shawn Nelson is on the ground a lot – diving, falling, stretching for poor throws
Is that a good thing?
Good to hear Ellis doing well. I think he can have some success at OLB in this scheme if his head is right. He has the size and he has pretty good athleticism, along with some pass rush ability. Maybe with Kelsay’s injury and being down to his last chance, Ellis will finally put it all together and become a contributor. I have a feeling he not only makes the team, but becomes a pretty big part of the defense this year.
I’d love to see Lankster push Corner for a job, and hopefully right off the team. Like Ellis, I think Youboty is going to take advantage of his final chance in Buffalo, assuming he can somehow stay healthy. I’m just hoping we never have to watch Corner play for our defense again…..
All in all, sounds like what we should expect….average play at QB with nobody really standing out, good play out of the RB’s, growing pains and mistakes at WR but lots of potential, terrible OL play, good practice play out of the OLB’s with questions about whether they can do it when the lights really come on, solid but unspectacular play from the DB’s and fun and games out of the specialist…..I think we need to get used to these types of things.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
what’s your problem with corner K? I think he is more than effective in the nickel role. He is extremely quick laterally and has great change of direction which helps him cover the quickest of the slot receivers in the NFL. I must say though, he is awful at playing on the outside against big, straight line type wide outs because of his lack of elite (deep) speed.
by KC13 on Jul 31, 2010 2:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's just picking....
his next victim if Kelsay finally gets cut….. :-)
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
yeah
like there is a shortage of guys to move your attention to if Kelsay were to be released… Though he will be arguably as happy as I am when Ellison finds his way to a new home this season as well. Or he doesn’t. As long as I don’t have to watch him not fill gaps, and get beat in coverage, or have a roster spot ahead of a younger bigger stronger better athlete who helps IMPROVE our run defense.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
K has already picked his replacement for Kelsay ...... his name is Maybin ;-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
You'll find that "K" is pretty accurate more than most of the times. LOL
I too am looking at Corner to improve this season. We all want the younger guys to get PT and Corner got a career’s worth last season. This season should prove to be the what I have learned season. I give K a 90% of the time accurate rating, Although tough to swallow at times. TWSS. Still Corner will interesting to watch and could prove valuable as the season unfolds.
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I don't know about that
I’d take 50% of the time….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I just think he stinks
He’s small and unathletic for the position and I don’t think he’s quick at all, nor does he seem quick to react either. He does have solid ball skills and tends to be in the right position, but his physicial limitations really hurt him. I don’t believe he belongs on the field in crucial situations, though it’s not his fault he’s been asked to do more than he’s capable of in the past. He can cover slower options in the slot, but is that really saying anything?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Also
he turns 27 during the year and I think his “potential” is maxed out. A guy like Lankster is still an unknown with the ability to step forward. Heck, even Youboty might too, if he can ever stay healthy. He just turned 26.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
i agree mostly, in that i prefer Lankster to Corner
but only on up side. that said, this statement seems almost to contradict itself
He does have solid ball skills and tends to be in the right position, but his physicial limitations really hurt him.
If he is in position, and has ball skills, how are his physical limitations hurting him? Seems like if he can be in the right spot, at the right time, and make the play, he is not limited at all. I feel though, that Lankster has demonstrated the ability to be in the right spot, as well, and he is much faster, and has much more potential as a man corner. So i agree, with you in intention, but reasoning to me is a tad weak.
I don’t believe he belongs on the field in crucial situations, though it’s not his fault he’s been asked to do more than he’s capable of in the past.
Most would likely agree, as with McKelvin, Youboty, and dozens of other NFL DBs, circumstances are maybe not “ideal” coming in…. but if they perform, it is hard to knock them. Not everyone comes in like Revis, or DRC, or Cromartie, or whatever and just get it and dominate. But most players you can see that they either get it or they just don’t, and it doesn’t take too long to figure out which group they belong in. Both can play, though if I had to choose it would be Lankster for doing a better Jabari Greer impression.
Oh, and 26 or 27 is not a concern. These guys should be peaking within the next 2 seasons, and if they are not, then they are being replaced anyway… so there is little risk in allowing their growth
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Jul 31, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
In good position
I should have been much more specific…I was talking about in the zone we’ve played. When he’s had to man up, it’s bad been. How much zone will we see this year anyhow?
26 or 27 isn’t a concern, I just think Corner has maxed out.
I also don’t know if I’d prefer Lankster since he’s never done anything in the NFL. His potential is certainly there to be better than Corner, IMO.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
lankster had a preseason pick, right? maybe two? as did corner i believe, but i feel like L is more fluid, and a bit quicker, and thus more capable (in regards to potential still) for future need of solid man coverage (oh Jabari, why did you leave? oh yeah, for a ring. Well you GOT one now! SO, COME BACK!!!!)
how much zone is a matter of contention. some feel that because we kept Katavoulos(spelled?, even correct name? i admittedly don’t know well enough the position coaches names) and the same DBs (with some rooks and such mixed in for our maxed out version of the roster), that we will run a system that is a little faster like Pitt or NE, and play more zone concepts.
Personally, I feel like we are going to be a copy of like, a 90’s Pittsburgh this year, with an offense that allows the QB to have larger windows through motion, and short, quick, 2 read routes, and lots and lots of running. I think that we would then move to develop ourselves, set our sights to be a 3 headed monsterlike the Giants ran with their young unproven QB (albeit a Manning i know) with their solid backfield, and athletic young guys who were better at run blocking and use good game management, play action, solid defense(though we will use more of a pressure, Man coverage 3-4 hopefully), and TOP to win games. It got them to the Super Bowl, right?
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Painted a real good overall picture Brian, thank you.
Brohm didn’t do much to stand out; his arm strength is really suspect on deeper throws, if you ask me.
I didn’t need to ask you, you supplied the info willingly… and i for one thought that from what little video of OTA we got, it looked kinda “eh” then too. Excited if Ellis really does look comfortable out there, he has never really looked “in his element” when at end anyway. he just kinda plays contain, and swallows up RBs. Speaking or running backs, i hope the hard work is good for Marshawn, maybe he starts having some pride and respect for Chan in making him earn his place, and maybe Chan has some respect for the player’s effort, if not the player. Could be real good for the guy. And in conclusion, I really hope Youboty makes it to the season without any setbacks, so he and the rest of the DBs can pay out solid dividends again this year. Glad McKelvin has to earn his spot, and won’t be surprised when he does.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
whoops. never ended the tag. my bad.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
nice border to MY comments though.... ; )
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Lots of good stuff Brian....rec'd
I am guessing it was a late night for you, but I would really like to hear a bit more detail about some of your observations.
The QBs – Edwards looked good on short and mid range stuff (big surprise), but did he throw it deep? How did those throws compare to Brohm? In what way was his deep throws suspect?
WRs – Easley was not mentioned. Did he do anything of note, good or bad?
OL – Not surprised Wang is look bad. He looked like warm dog poop at the Sr Bowl and I have no idea why the Bills even drafted him other than to sell jerseys in China (got Brandon written all over it). Hope he does something to prove me wrong.
DL – To soon to tell how Troup looks vs Williams? or how they will be used…..run vs pass downs?
DB – Since he wasn’t mentioned, I would have to guess that Byrd wasn’t the word? Hope he have him working on his run support.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
wrong
Byrd is always the word. Haven’t you heard? come on now Joe. you’re too smart to make these silly mistakes. At worst, he is holding himself back to help the other guys build some confidence. doesn’t wanna them getting all scared, and disappointed already… some could just walk away from the sport entirely if they thought they had to compete with he that is the Byrd. haha.
Seriously though, how was he Brian? ; )
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
LOL....that makes much more sense......
and they can’t teach him any saftey blitzes while Edwards is QB, that would be the end of Edwards new found confidence :)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
exactly
haha
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
There were not many deep throws tonight, and the fly patterns that did go up were only 20-30 yard throws. I didn’t see one completed, and Trent missed Huggins pretty badly on a fly pattern he put up when Whitner blitzed – 1-on-1 coverage, and the ball was about 8 yards inaccurate. Then he put up a nice-looking ball that Evans had no idea was coming, and so didn’t get his head turned. Not on the same page.
I saw Easley drop one easy short route, but I didn’t watch him a ton – I spent a lot of time looking at the other younger guys, as Easley has already gotten so much hype.
Troup and Williams are different player types, but Williams looked OK at NT. Edwards had the D-Line working on some one- and three-techniques at one point, playing off the shoulder and shooting gaps like in the old scheme, and both guys looked pretty good doing it.
Byrd was the starting FS, but the focus was so much on the run, and there weren’t any deep balls, so Byrd was just kind of there tonight.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats what Byrd brings to our defense.
Forces the offense to focus underneath.
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there focus is already there
why wouldn’t it be. anyone with a good RB and/or good TE or WR are gonna eat us alive. Probably why NE took multiple TEs in this draft. So they can work the middle just as much with or without Welker
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
Thanks...
I need my info fix!
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 31, 2010 3:02 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks Brian, great stuff
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
WHOA
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
seriously!!!
Brian how are you awake at 4 am!!
That doesnt happen every day!
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
I know you said you didn’t get a chance to watch the linemen much, but did you see Eric Wood and how did he look? Did he have a noticable limp while he was walking?
We got the tools, We got the talent
I saw Eric Wood doing some sort of Jedi Yoga Tony Little stretch before practice, in which his man parts were practically dragging across the ground, with his legs at very unnatural angles. I think he’s fine.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
do not picture this!!!!!!
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to late........aaaaaggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! My eyes............they burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
I hope everyone realizes how difficult it is to provide such an analysis
What an excellent job BG. It is so early into training camp and then to come back with such a wide variety of observations is truly a difficult task. Almost like nutting the ball 280 yards down the center of the fairway. Makes you want to come back for more. As camp evolves coaching decisions will begin to fall into perspective for us. I plan on attending a few, starting with Sunday’s 3-5 practice. Although I won’t be able to provide as much insight as Brian because I don’t have that detailed back ground such as three techniques and one Vs two gap stuff. I want to watch Troup, Williams and Harvey as much as possible. Thanks for the update on Troup, still one of the more unpublicized additions this season. It is a fun experience but yes, boring unless you are a fan.
One question. Harvey shedding his blocks? Was he supposed too shed them or just contain them. Did he fail to read pass and run block etc…?
Thanks again very good work.
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Appreciate the kind words. As for Harvey, he let (I forget if it was Allen or Gaddis, probably Gaddis, a reserve center at any rate) get into his pads pretty hardcore, and he ended up trying to reach for a RB running right up the A gap. Whereas I saw Troup bodily throw Cordaro Howard to the side like a rag doll.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Whereas I saw Troup bodily throw Cordaro Howard to the side like a rag doll.
lol, nice! hopefully he’s doing that a lot to the other teams o-line this year
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 31, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Terrific job of reporting
Thanks so much for all your comments, Brian. I doubt that there is anyone else this side of Mark Gaughn who can do such a knowledgeable job of reporting on training camp. Like others, I was particularly encouraged by the news that the OLB’s are looking better than expected. I continue to have my eye on Batten, who seems to be able to handle all the responsibilities of an OLB and, as a result, could be a true three-down player. On Brohm, the reports on him when he was coming out of college said he had plenty of arm strength, and we saw him make some long throws against Atlanta last year, so I’m not sure that’s a worry. The bigger question with him would seem to be reading defenses and finding targets.
Great Job, Brian
Excellent write-up.
I’m excited to see what Troupe can do to shore up our D Line, he sounds like a beast vs. the run already.
I would also like to see Lankster push Corner for 4th corner…. Corner is OK and has quite a bit of experience but I never feel good about him lined up on slot WRs. I feel Lankster is a better athlete and has a much higher ceiling/potential for big plays. Is Lydell Sargeant playing or is he currently injured?
Great to hear that C Ellis looks solid out there at 3-4 OLB.

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