Schefter: Spiller "Won't Be In Camp For A Little While"
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintEven though NFL first-round pick signings are more than half-way completed, the news is not good regarding Buffalo Bills running back C.J. Spiller. ESPN's Adam Schefter tweets that Spiller "won't be in camp for a little while," though he does mention that he's playing a hunch.
Spiller, selected No. 9 overall, has all but been slotted to this point. No. 8 overall pick Rolando McClain signed a five-year, $40 million deal with $23 million guaranteed on Thursday. Yesterday, No. 11 overall pick Anthony Davis got a five-year, $26.5 million deal with $16 million guaranteed. Spiller will be slotted somewhere between the two (far closer to McClain than Davis), but length and salary/guarantees aren't the likely problem in terms of negotiations. Incentives, likely-to-be-earned bonuses, and other intricacies are almost certainly the cause of the delay, compounded by the fact that Spiller was the first running back selected in April.
Other reporters, including Scout.com's Adam Caplan, are tweeting that all first-round picks could realistically be signed by the middle of next week, so not everything is doom and gloom. Someday, the Bills will get a top draft pick signed and into camp on time again, and I won't have to hear Adam Schefter ask me to "hang in there" because I'm a Bills fan.
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It has already been a little while
Besides, it’s its not so much time as it is number of practices. Somewhat related.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
When the hell was the last time we had our first round pick signed and in training camp on time? I know it was probably in the last few years, but it just seems like we get the same crap every year!
Being a Bills fan the last decade is a lot like being a man with E.D....sometimes you get excited too soon just be disappointed in the end, and other times...you just don't get excited at all
McKelvin held out, but I think it was only for a day or two. Pretty sure Lynch was in camp on time.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
McKelvin signed on Sat the 26th.
Missed three days and four practices.
Marshawn signed Thursday the 27th and missed both practices that day.
by twoeightnine on Jul 31, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Whitner and McCargo also held out
McCargo missed only a morning practice though.
Last year, Wood missed roughly five days of practices.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
When all the picks are signed. But just FYI, Jim Overdorf oversees most contract negotiations.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
But just FYI, Jim Overdorf oversees most contract negotiations.
Is Nix his boss?
Bring on the 2010 NFL season! Go Bills!
That’s a fantastic question, and one I honestly don’t know the answer to. My gut: Nix is not technically his “boss,” but has some degree of authority over him, as Nix controls the entire football operation.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
holdouts
To me, one of the only benefits of drafting a RB in the first round is that a holdout doesn’t stunt their growth. I have very little respect for the value of running backs in general and believe to some extent that they are more or less a dime a dozen. Very few of them are special and most are the byproducts of the system around them. Is Spiller special? I have no idea, but I know Nix honestly believes he is (“There’s only one CJ Spiller”). If so, holding out won’t change a thing for better or worse. If not, holding out won’t change a thing either. No worries.
"Godzilla is coming so get ready." -abayarde
Here we go again....
Every year the Bills are always taking a ‘wait and see’ approach when it comes to signing their first round draft picks. Is it too much to ask that they actually try to be the agressive party? I do not buy Chris Brown’s ‘spin’ that its the agents that are slowing down the process because they do not want to make their client look bad. I think its just the Bills being cheap (go figure)…I can only imagine how drawn out the process is going to be next year when we are going to draft a QB with our top 5 pick…we can only hope that a new agreement is reached that provides a rookie cap
rookie cap
Is that actually one of the things on the table, or a pipe dream?
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jul 31, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
If its not it sure needs to be.This is one of the big problems I have with rookies,they haven’t proved a thing yet they want to hold out for theses big contracts and some of them prove to be not worth the money.The agents are also part of the blame so they can get their cut.They want all this guaranteed money but if they are a bust they never give that money back.
by morpheus123456 on Jul 31, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Holdouts
They don’t holdout because they might be great, they holdout because they might be busts. In case this is their only payday in the NFL, they go for as much as they can, even if it means risking the next payday, because hey, who knows if that will ever happen anyway?
The teams bear all the risk as long as nobody seriously believes that a franchise might let a top ten pick go back into the draft the next year. And they get burned for it. If I was the GM holding the top pick, I wouldn’t touch Bradford’s kind of money, and instead work to negotiate a fairer deal with a lower-projected pick. Make an offer of 5th overall pick money to a guy expected to go in the 10-15 range, who should take it. And let the rest of the draft try to figure out their slots.
The rookie cap is not a pipe dream. This will be one of the bigger issues when discussing the new CBA. Teams cannot not afford to invest as much money as they are now in unproven talent. If you miss on a top 5 pick, it will set your franchise back for years. Also, the players association probably will support the rookie cap because a majority of the players are not top 20 talents and that would mean more money for them for when they do perform well and EARN their money.
The NFLPA
Seems to do a remarkable job protecting its top 10% rather than the majority of its members.
Well, its not like the Bills are the only culprits here you know, I bet you alot that CJ's agent it watching what Matthews gets from the Chargers
Before he makes a deal with the Bills despite the fact that the other picks around him have signed. Eugene Parker is another agent who does this all the time, and CJ’s current agent is very much like Parker in their wait and see approach.
abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"
Here goes again!
I really hope he doesn’t pull a Maybin or even worse a Crabtree and I hope that I was wrong in my last post.
But I do however think that the situation that occured with Chris Johnson, severely outplaying his rookie contract might have something to do with it. The last thing that we need is a similar situation in the next two years.
Message to Buddy: Please get this thing done ASAP.
Message to CJ: I hope you’ve instructed to your agent to get a deal done quickly. Please try to look at the big picture, your future is very bright in Buffalo, you will be a local hero – and if you play well in your rookie contract you will be rewarded in the extension, so just do what you need to get a deal done ASAP, tks.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Johnson
The last thing that we need is a similar situation in the next two years.
Yeah, that sure would suck!! Having a 2000 yard rusher and the most dynamic player in the NFL….who also agreed to come to camp on time.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Even if he did pull a Maybin, it wouldn’t set him back in nearly the way it set Maybin back.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Prediction
I bet CJ signs his deal next Tuesday
This is crap
What horrible reporting. “A little while”, seriously? Let me guess, his contract will be worth “some” money.
It just means that a deal is not imminent, as it was with other guys that have now signed (Suh, McCoy).
by Brian Galliford on Jul 31, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What did you want him to report?
The deal will be signed in exactly 27 hours 32 minutes and 12 seconds?
by twoeightnine on Jul 31, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't he get ....
a flight today? Why waste all that time? :-)
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
Just being pedantic I guess...
I like the way Brian expressed it better; that a deal is not imminent at this time. That tells us something, unlike the way Adam Schefter put it, which doesn’t really give us any new information.
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