Ten Bills To Decide 2010, No. 1: Aaron Maybin
Over the past three weeks, we've spent a good chunk of time talking about the ten Buffalo Bills players that may hold the greatest influence over the team's fortunes in 2010. That series concludes this afternoon, as we've reached the player that I believe is most critical - by a rather gigantic margin - to Buffalo's success or failure next year.
That player is second-year pass rusher Aaron Maybin.
I'm not trying to diminish the importance of other positions (quarterback, left tackle) or players (most of whom have already appeared in this series). A very large number of young players on this team are vitally important not just to the 2010 season, but for the team's foreseeable future. But if we're talking about a combination of positional importance, investment, potential, and critical analysis of the roster, no single player is more important to the Bills' cause than Maybin.
That might not be fair; he's barely 22 years old, still coming into his own athletically, and is learning a new position. But the expectations exist whether I write this article or not, simply because Maybin was the No. 11 overall pick of the 2009 NFL Draft. So no, it's not necessarily fair. But Maybin does, indeed, face enormous pressure to produce as he enters his second pro season.
When veteran pass rusher Aaron Schobel informed the Bills that he wouldn't be joining the team any time soon, Buffalo's pass rushing depth chart - already thin and heavily unproven - transformed into something closely resembling a train wreck. The free agent addition of Reggie Torbor doesn't help matters, as he's spent most of his career as an inside linebacker. Buffalo's career leader in sacks is currently Marcus Stroud (26.5), who won't be striking fear into the hearts of Tom Brady, Mark Sanchez or Chad Henne any time soon with his pass-rushing prowess.
Consider that the six players on the roster projected to play outside linebacker - keep in mind that all six likely won't make the final roster - have combined for 28.5 career sacks. Then consider that each of those 28.5 sacks come from two players - Torbor (6.5) and Chris Kelsay (22). That means that two-thirds of Buffalo's outside linebackers have never sacked a quarterback at the NFL level. Maybin belongs to that group, along with 2008 third-round pick Chris Ellis and two rookies - Danny Batten and Antonio Coleman.
If Trent Edwards' career with the Bills has taught us anything, it's that any quarterback, regardless of skill, confidence level or circumstance, can carve up an opposing defense that lacks teeth in its pass rush. Edwards has proven himself one of the most efficient game managers in the league in those rare instances he's had time to make decisions. You'll see quarterbacks with far less skill than Edwards do the same thing against these types of teams. Buffalo's looking at a long season if it cannot find a way to pressure not just Brady - who feasts on Buffalo annually - but Sanchez and Henne, as well, even though both struggled against Buffalo a year ago.
New defensive coordinator George Edwards will need to be creative at the start of the season if he wants to generate pressure on quarterbacks right away - because there is a very serious problem at OLB in Buffalo, and Maybin may or may not be able to fix it right away.
Yes, it's true that one of Buffalo's current outside linebackers could step up to the plate before Maybin. Torbor, or a rookie like Batten - a player I'm very high on - could surprise. But it's no secret that we'll be looking to Maybin first and foremost, not just because he's by far the most athletically talented linebacker on the roster, but because his represents a level of organizational investment that just isn't present when talking about any other OLB.
Maybin has not rushed from a standing position very frequently in his incredibly brief football career. He struggled with his hand on the ground as a rookie, unable to earn much playing time and not being terribly effective when he did see the field. He ended his rookie season with 18 tackles and one forced fumble, and most of that production came from his work on special teams.
Edwards has preached playing to a player's strengths since the moment he got here, and Maybin's got a few critical strengths - his first step, his hustle, and his length. Buffalo will likely explore ways to let Maybin rush from a standing position as well as with a hand on the ground, not just to help ease his transition to OLB, but to try to keep opponents off-balance. But scheming can only get you so far. It's on Maybin to flash something - anything - in the way of natural pass-rushing ability, which he displayed in spades at Penn State, but hasn't produced yet in Buffalo.
There are plenty of scary positional situations in Buffalo right now. At those scary positions, there are plenty of very green players that need to step up - and if they don't, Buffalo's in for a long season. I firmly believe that the pass rush is the Bills' most pressing area of concern entering the new year, and with Schobel out of the picture, there is an enormous amount of pressure on No. 58 to not only improve on a (to be kind) very quiet rookie year, but emerge as the team's best pass rusher. I'm guessing that we won't see any Bills player this year that's met with as much criticism or praise as Maybin, depending on how his 2010 season unfolds.
Ten Bills To Decide 2010
10. G/C Eric Wood
9. ILB Andra Davis
8. CB Leodis McKelvin
7. RB Fred Jackson
6. FS Jairus Byrd
5. NT Torell Troup
4. QB Trent Edwards
3. RB C.J. Spiller
2. LT Demetrius Bell
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I wont say this is his "make or break year" ...
… but having a good season would be awesome. If he can take over this year (8+ sacks, hurries, causing turnovers, etc..) this defense will look a lot better. Come on Maybin!
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I would argue, and i’m sure others would as well, that a lot of people felt he was better suited to be an OLB in a 3-4 in the NFL anyways. so this might be a good thing for him as far as the transition goes.
with that beign said – he, and the rest of the OLBs, defiantely need to find a way to be opposing teams offensive backfield as much as possible. pressure on the opposing QB is too important and if we epic fail it then, as you say, it will indeed be a very long season
We got the tools, We got the talent
I agree with you J2
others will argue that was never the case. But when I saw the 2009 draft class I thought Maybin was going to be the no.1 target for 3-4 teams. Of course, lets say I was a tad shocked when we took him. Maybe Jauron knew we were going to transition ;)
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by poz on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe Jauron knew we were going to transition ;)
rec’d
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by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know that jauron ever planned on transitioning per say
and Maybin is a HUGE question mark when it comes to operating in space, particularly with coverage of RBs who are smaller and faster, and TE who are same size or bigger. He will need to learn a lot… that said, they will dumb it down at first and utilize his speed and size to rush the passer on guaranteed passing downs… oh wait, that is all he has ever been. and it will take another whole (or most of a ) season to transition him, if he is even capable.
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wow you missed that joke…..
he said that because he figured Jauron knew he was going to get fired…..
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
so he burned a first just to screw the next guys?
if that’s the joke fine, cuz really, i don’t know about that since he just signed a three year extension that had they been able to make the jump from 7-9 team to 10-6 team, which was still conceivable at that point, i believe he made the selection for his benefit still.
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basically i am taking that DJ had intended to move Maybin when he switched to a 3-4
which we have no other supporting evidence for. More likely we took the pass rusher with the quickest first step, who would hopefully fill out, and be a Dwight Freeney type in the 4-3.
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i will say though
anyone with a former prime ministers quote as his signature has to have a sense of humor. especially that particular quote haha. like you said, i guess i missed the implication.
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lol – ya – had no thing to do with DJ other than not knowing his eventual demise
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
lol Jauron new his job was gone i he didn’t come out 5-1. And as for Maybin, I too think that the transition to the 3-4 will do him A LOT of good. His build, his speed, his skill set all scream 3-4 pass rusher. Now lets just hope and pray that he can actually develop into one.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
The problem is at #11 in first rd. should there really be alot to develop? Here’s hoping he does develop into a asset as opposed to a bust!
by buffalobacker on Jul 9, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well in Maybin’s deffense, he wasn’t on the feild long enough to actually develop into anything good last year. Thats why I think Maybin’s rookie season can be entirely written off. Now that he’ll be a starter we can really tell what this kid is made of.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 9, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But why wasn’t he on field more? Was it because of his late signing?
by buffalobacker on Jul 9, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But why wasn’t he on field more?
because he sucked more than the other guys on the field – that needs to change
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Late signing, not coached properly, not used enough so he could change his faults, all fall into consideration. I’m just thankfull that Jauron and Co are gone soe they can’t screw him up more than they already did.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 9, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
In my view
it’s not even a debate whether Maybin has “natural” pass rushing ability, he has that. For me it’s going to be about does he understand that the natural ability has to be coupled with technique, and did he put the work in there. Pass rushing is a science too. It’s about understanding whether to use leverage or speed based on what the lineman is doing.
I believe this kid is going to be our pass rusher of the future. And frankly, I’m way more worried about his coverage skills than I am his figuring out how to be an NFL pass rusher.
by Buffalonian on Jul 10, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Scheme to fit the players skills
I wouldn’t dare suggest that Nix and Gailey switched to a 3-4 to benefit the athleticism of Aaron Maybin. It puts so many other players at a disadvantage when playing their entire career in a 4-3. BUT, I can see the hybrid formations used extensively to benefit players like Maybin, Carrington and even Batten. This may seem like the logical choice for the #1 spot and I am in agreement, but it goes deeper than Maybin and Brian touches on it as well. The Pass Rush and how Edwards schemes these players to make an impact. Thus, IMO puts George Edwards just a notch above Gailey in the critical areas to succeed. Gailey running the offense and Edwards running the defense. Edwards certainly is aware of our division and each and every player that plays in it and the coaches that coach in it. He will have zero excuses in choice of personnel at any point in the game.
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Hope you are right
It would be great to see Maybin have a break-out year, and it would certainly do wonders for the team. But as I see it, the problem is that he has to do a lot more than rush the passer. He also has to be able to contribute to run defense AND to pass coverage. If I were an opposing OC looking at the Bills, I would put a slot receiver on Maybin play after play, forcing him to exercise skills that he has never been called on to use before. It’s called exploiting your opponent’s main weakness. And if he is going to have to wrorry about that on every snap, will he be able to develop that much in terms of putting pressure on the QB?
My guess is that, before too long into the season, Danny Batten (who appears to be a much faster learner than Maybin) is going to be a starting OLB taking on the role that Brain has sketched out for Maybin. If that happens, Batten will become the most critical player on the Bills using Brian’s analysis, and I am as high on him as Brian is. But of course if Brian Brohm does get the starting QB job he will automatically shoot up to #1 on this list.
I may be wrong in this, but I believe that, with the right scheme in place, the ROLB very rarely has to go out in coverage, acting more as a designated pass-rusher, and wouldn’t be put into a position where he is one-on-one with a slot reciever.
I would hope the defensive scheme has contingencies in place to deal with such a glaring weakness, cause the idea of Welker possibly being covered by Maybin one-on-one even for one play is downright terrifying
MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Jul 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s less true with the MIA/NE version of the 3-4 than it is with the BAL/NYJ version of the 3-4.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
then might it be safe to say that the Bills are gonna keep a real close eye on the offensive personnel on the field and be pretty liberal about sprinkling in more nickel/dime looks when a third reciever hits the field (particularly when its a dangerous one like Welker)?
MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Most teams do that anyway, but I don’t think the Bills will have any choice.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 9, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why Bryan Scott may in fact belong on that list of the 10 most critical players. He is just amazingly useful (along with George Wilson).
until he gets cut
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 10, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
???????
Why on earth would Gailey do that?
a few reasons for release: slow for DB, small for LB. “tweener”. In 3-4 would be safety, but by design of the system, Byrd, Whitner, and Wilson all take precedent. I would be willing to believe that it is possible that Lydell Sargeant (6’-1", 190lbs) or Dominique Harris (6’-2", 213lbs) could be prospective safeties in a 3-4 as much as they could be CBs. Also might we go with Cary Harris as a backup FS, with Whitner and Wilson as our Strongs. Not going to be effective as a LB so only placement is backup SS and MAYBE special teams.
a few for keeping:experience in multiple positions, however in a 4-3 not a 3-4. maybe dime coverage linebacker?
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oh
and because of the question of Corto…. if he were kept, he would be a SS as well.
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We’d keep Scott way before we’d keep Corto if it comes down to the two of them. Scott is the first guy that we want on the feild in obvious running downs. In fact even though we keep listing Whitner as an SS, I see him playing lot more as a FS backing up Byrd. Byrd may be amazing in passing situations, but he still needs a lot of work in the running game.
Also something else to factor is is the fact that it"s Whitner’s final (non option year) in his contract (I think). And if I’m right, which one do you think the team will keep first, Whitner at $6M+ per year or Scott at barely $2M? Whitner is gone from Buffalo when his contract is up, thats unless he’s willing to take a huge pay cut. And I just don’t see that happening.
Two seasons from now we’ll be talking about how Byrd, Wilson and Scott are still one of the best safety groups in the league and Whitner will be overpaid by some other team.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 10, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
well
if you use madden salaries… yeah you might feel that way.
Scott made 1 mil last year and Donte made 2.8 mil. I doubt as if they both make double that this year. That said… Whitner is just as likely to be re-signed if he is successful in his 3-4 responsibilities.
There are very few quality SS in the NFL who have ability to play in coverage, against the run, as FS and SS, as well as in the slot as he has been used on rare occasion as well. we may even see him used outside in man coverage matched up against TEs in heavy sets, allowing Byrd and Wilson to team up together… something that worked well for us last year. Donte fits too many places to be as expendable as you claim.
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also, as his contract was a rookie deal, is he not then a restricted free agent under the current CBA
at least until a new one is reached? Or is he somehow not lumped in with all those other players that suffered the same fate this year…
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we may even see him used outside in man coverage matched up against TEs in heavy sets, allowing Byrd and Wilson to team up together…
Thats actually where I see Scott being used a lot. I think that he should be used as a nickle linebacker. And then you throw in Whitner at one of the safety positions depending on the situation.
And the only reason that Whitner only made 2.8M last year was that he didn’t hit any bonuses. Either way though he’ll probably be asking for more than 5M per year for the exact reasons that you mentioned. I like Whitner, a lot, and have deffended him a lot on here. I just don’t see any situation in which he resigns with the Bills after his contract is over.
Dear God,
If we give you Justin Bieber, can you please give us back Kurt Cobain?
Amen
by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 10, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t see any situation in which he resigns with the Bills after his contract is over.
If he shows his versatility to this staff, and can be allowed to roam on occasion and get a few INTs… you could see him in the Pro Bowl. When compared to the rest of the SS in the league, he is in the top ten of all SS in the league except maybe in INTs, which he doesn’t need/ or hasn’t been asked to do. one of the few roles has hasn’t held consistantly is as a FS as much as previous staffs claimed they were going to try and do.
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again on topic of salary
we are so far under cap, and have gained SO MUCH back this year already… no TO (6 mil) no Schobel as of yet (7mil), cutting of assorted depth over 7 mil…. i mean, we have enough to pay for a guy who was in our top 15 salaried players already, when we know for sure Josh Reed and Terrell Owens and probably Aaron Schobel are no longer part of that group. I doubt it is a concern to pay him as a stater, supposing he continued to be played as a starter, and with no less success than in the past.
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Buddy, there is no cap. Caproom is irrelivant.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 10, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
if that is the case, then why did you say:
Also something else to factor is is the fact that it"s Whitner’s final (non option year) in his contract (I think). And if I’m right, which one do you think the team will keep first, Whitner at $6M+ per year or Scott at barely $2M? Whitner is gone from Buffalo when his contract is up, thats unless he’s willing to take a huge pay cut. And I just don’t see that happening.
if caproom is irrelivant then why bring it up?
however, to comment, i feel cost to be relative (probably lower) to what we spent to field our team last year, and as a team in the top 15 in spending, we were pretty much in the bottom of most categories last year in production. so i guess my point is spending money will happen regardless, and we will spend on who we deem to be players. i believe they think Whitner is a player. I believe Scott may not have the same value you believe him to. maybe i end up wrong. maybe i don’t. just speculation.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 10, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Did I mention cap room?
I was mirely talking about who the team might rather spend their money on.
As for the rest of it, I pretty much agree with what you said. If we’re going to be one of the top spending team, we’d better show some freaking results!
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Amen
by CanadianBillsFan on Jul 11, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
(who appears to be a much faster learner than Maybin
where do you get that?
We got the tools, We got the talent
by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
From Chris Brown’s reports. He has been talking all spring about how quickly Batten picks things up. What I think we learned about Maybin last year was that he learns very slowly. That does NOT necessarily mean that he won’t get there eventually. He does have talent and seems to be dedicated to getting better. But some guys take a while to pick up all they need to know to be effective in the NFL. A classic example of that would be Eric Moulds. When it did start to click for him he was terrific for a long time, but it took a while. Maybin may fall into that category. Batten, from what we are hearing, does not.
thanks – wasn’t sure cause i hadn’t heard that
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by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin..
Maybin not. I find it disturbing that Chris Brown hasn’t talked about his play more at the OTA’s and minicamps….
….Maybin they did switch to a 3-4 for Maybin, he’s a huge, very young investment, and our D-line is old and LB’s ehhhh. The switch definately will help Pozslusny (who’s too light in the pant’s for a 4-3 MLB) as well.
Brian’s right. If Maybin flops, were gunna have a long season, and a even longer off season.We kinda expect
Left Tackle and QB will be high on next years wish list, adding OLB’s high on that list is too much for one year, then we’ll be looking at 2012. (sigh…)
If maybin flops, it doesn’t shed a good light on Nix and Modrak either.
GO MAYBIN! SHOW ’EM MAN! CRUSH TOM BABY! CRUSH ’EM GOOD!
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I really expect Maybin to
pick up his first sack this year.
After that, I have very little expectations for him. I think he looked like like absolute dung last year and didn’t even belong on an NFL field. I fail to see the physical gifts that others crow about so often. He needs to have greatly refined his technique and pass rush moves this offseason because he really needs to utilize them this year. I have hope he can become a good player for us, I’m just not too fond of what he’s shown, both athletically and in terms of production.
What are people’s realistic expectations for him this year? Assuming he can win a starting spot (no guarantee) and play 2/3’s of the snaps, let’s say, I’d expect roughly 30-40 tackles, and 2-4 sacks. I think it’s going to be another tough season for Maybin, but at least he should get plenty of snaps to try to work through it and learn from his mistakes. The best way to learn is by being thrown into the fire sometimes….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
This season is sink or swim for Maybin. If he looks awful, and clearly can’t handle the job of NFL pass rusher, then he may just be the biggest bust/reach since Mike Williams. And everytime you guys mention his importance, I still get the feeling I got when I watched Orakapo fall to us,only for them to switch to a shot of Maybin on the phone…. burning nausea and a strong desire to cry in my beer. If he fails, it will be the parting shot of what was a pathetic coaching/drafting regime.
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by MagillaGorilla1928 on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
you do realize save for Buddy Nix......
the same people are still here doing all the draft work.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Jul 9, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin and Bell
Both excellent athletes who I hope only look uncomfortable out there as they get used to NFL speed and schemes. I think that the reason they don’t look as athletic out there as we expect is because they are thinking instead of just playing. Hope that changes this year but I guess some guys never “get it” either.
I don't get all of the comments about how Maybin looked last season.
He barely played, and was a huge liability against the run, which presumably won’t be a problem this season, but I thought that he looked explosive off the edge last year. He was close to getting a few sacks that I recall. There were a couple of plays where he absolutely smoked the tackle off of the snap, only to discover a 3-step drop. I thought he displayed great quickness, he just couldn’t hold up to 300lb run block, which again shouldn’t be an issue this year.
Why shouldn't those problems be issues this year??
He solved all his woes in one offseason???
Also, when did he ever smoke an OT??
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Jul 9, 2010 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also, when did he ever smoke an OT??
He got Jeff Backus pretty good in the last pre-season game against the Lions, and that is literally the only possible answer to that question.
by Brian Galliford on Jul 9, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
thats one more than i would have got, save langston walker at Lt in practice at some point
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by J2 on Jul 9, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
That’s also one more than I remember. I also couldn’t watch that game, so that’s why I don’t recall that.
There was that one time the offense was called for a false start and the OT basically stopped and Maybin blew by him. I remember some people talking about how he was about to get his first NFL sack….haha.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
There was that one time…
At band camp? jokes aside…. that one time should not even be such a stretch… that’s just pathetic. we all agree… so far tremendous disappointment. HOPEFULLY he can reach some sort of legitimate NFL status instead of being another poor selection that sets us further back.
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by Ren Diggity on Jul 10, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
My Feeling About Rookies Is That ...
it’s okay (in fact expected) that they will have mistakes, get fooled, get picked on, etc … but they have to show you something. I think McKelvin fit into that category. He made some very dumb mistakes and was a liability, but you could still see something there. He’s got skills. I’m just not sure we saw that with Maybin. He was invisible (usually lost in a blocker). An optimist will recall that Eric Moulds was lost out there for his first TWO years, but when it clicked he was devastating. I’m going to agree with Brian that patience is needed and that all is not lost. I also think this regime has started beefing up so I don’t think the setback would be nearly as great as with Mike Williams if he fails.

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