Bills To Be Without Three O-Line Starters In D.C.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 12, 2010 9:04 AM EDT
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PrintThe Buffalo Bills have been dealing with minor injuries since they started training camp on July 29, and nowhere will that have a bigger effect on their first pre-season game than along the offensive line. Projected starters Demetrius Bell, Eric Wood and Cornell Green have all been ruled out for Friday night's pre-season opener against the Washington Redskins.
Bell and Wood continue to ease their way back into the lineup after season-ending surgeries last year; both will be held back to ensure that they're ready for the September 12 season opener. Green, meanwhile, has missed the last several days of practice, though the injury is still considered minor.
Jamon Meredith is a lock to get the start at left tackle, having been the primary backup at that position throughout camp to this point. Undrafted rookie free agent Cordaro Howard spelled Wood at right guard in practice Wednesday night, and is likely to get the start at right guard, particularly with Andre Ramsey questionable for the game. Kirk Chambers is listed as the second-team right tackle on the team's unofficial depth chart, and will likely get the start there; if not, Kyle Calloway will get the nod. Andy Levitre and Geoff Hangartner will man their usual left guard and center posts, respectively.
The team is traveling to D.C. today, with Friday's kickoff slated for 7:30 PM. The starting units are not expected to see a lot of action, but they'll get enough to make it worth their while. Your question for the comments section: considering Trent Edwards' injury history, how much playing time is too much for Friday considering how beat up Buffalo's line is already?
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In regards to the Edwards question:
I want to see 3 drives (3 and outs dont count) or a TD drive. Which ever comes first. And I want all the first teamers that are available to be in on those drives.
As far as the line being banged up for this game, I see it as no real problem. Its only the first preseason game… now if this was the 3rd, then Id be a little more worried… but its ok with me for right now.
THIS is our year.
does anyone else think it’s funny that the only two guys who started all 16 games last season on the line are the only ones starting the preseason opener?
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by the_prophet on Aug 12, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Idk about playing time
for edwards I mean give him a few series but not many. Jamon Meredith this is his time to shine, I like this guy a lot so I am hoping he can produce. Bell just doesn’t seem like a good fit for me. But LETS GO BUFFALO
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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 12, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions
Yecch
It’s not like they are resting experienced starters from a proven cohesive offensive unit.
I say
we start drafting O-line men like we draft DB’s from now on!
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 12, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions
You know
Early, for no reason at all, for like five years in a row.
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 12, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
They could have traded down, drafted Pouncey, and had the core group set for the next ten years. We will get our first chance to see how well Spiller can run behind a makeshift OL.
Or, they could have taken Bulaga instead of Spiller. I like Spiller, but seems like LT is a bigger need…wait…I don’t want to get into this again.
by Slick Shifty on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Twas the Night...........
Twas the night
Before the first pre-season game
We get to see the efforts of the new regime
A new defense and new offense
That play an NFL Scheme
The uniforms were hung
By the lockers with care
In hopes
That Coach Gailey
Can stop the despair
The players were transported
To wage battle with the Skins
Hoping that their hard work
Would produce a much needed win
My family in their Bills clothes
I in my Bills cap,
We just settled down
With a beer and popcorn nestled in our laps
When out of the TV
There arose a noise like a splat
I sprang from the couch
To catch McNabb lying flat
I watched the replay
The defense like a flash
Blew thru the Skins O-line
Treating Donavan like yesterday’s trash
More rapid than gazelles
Edward’s defensive waves they came
As he whistled
And shouted
And called
Them by name
Now Stroud
Now Troup
Now Williams
Now Whitner
On Torbor
On Byrd
On McGee
An Drayton
To the top
Of AFC East
To the top
Of AFC
Now smash-away
Smash-away
Smash-away all
…
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I enjoy every minute of it
by Goose22 on Aug 12, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
I am happy now...Rec'd
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Out-freakin-standing! Rec’d!
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by TexasBillsFanatic on Aug 12, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Good question
I think it’ll be at least 2 series or at least a full quarter depending on which comes first. I’d like to see him on 3 series, but with the Buffalo Frankenline that we have and Edwards’ head of glass that might be asking too much at this point.
I know we’ve got a lot of changes on the offensive side of the ball but is anyone else psyched to see the return of the 3-4 defense to the Bills? That’s what I’ll be watching for. Wanna see how Kelsay adjusts to the LB switch and see if Maybin can meet expectations for the first time in his fledgling career.
Circle them wagons!
Any idea if the game is going to be broadcast live on nfl network?
Would be excellent for us out of towners.
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by dragonwag0n on Aug 12, 2010 10:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
im gunna have to find a bar that will play it for me
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by billsoferie on Aug 12, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Im going to the Buffalo Wild Wings for it. Gotta see it somehow. Stupid Time Warner…
THIS is our year.
I think last season proved that Edwards needs all the preseason reps he can get.
If he gets injured in spectacular fashion like history has shown us, then at least it’s still the preseason and they can proceed onward with plan B. If they protect him until week 1, he’s going to get creamed.
Sometimes you need to flatten the steak to make it more palatable. Edwards is ripe for the pounding, to ensure he takes to the season(ing).
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
Last Season
I was of the mind set he should sit out the first of five preseason games to protect him from injury. This season I feel the exact opposite. This is a good comment. The protection will be weaker than expected and Trent if anything needs to be evaluated under those conditions. I am not as excited about Gailey’s scheme as I am about how well Edwards performs under live ammunition. This goes for Brohm, Fitz and Brown as well.
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I really want Edwards to succeed. I think he good traits are things many teams would want. It’s now time for him to move beyond his hesitations when scanning the field.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 12, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Edwards is going to have a tough enough time this season with an entirely new offense and a lot of holes. No need to get him beat up on a makeshift offensive line and make him tentative already. There’s plenty of time for that in the regular season.
by Slick Shifty on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
trent needs to play more madden
Trent has this problem called lack of confidence, everywhere. No confidence in the routes of his receiver or in himself. Watch the highlight videos or go down to camp, he hesitates immensely still. He needs to be under center in preseason to not only toughen him up, but work on a more confident quick release.
Refer to madden passing drills.
by sketchydave on Aug 12, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This would definitely solve alot of issues.
Today he is the closest QB we have to an answer. Considering each one has one or two deficiencies to over come. I on the other hand remain very skeptical of his ability to overcome his deficiency. To me this makes this year’s preseason one of the most valuable to have than any I can remember. The red pen’s will be out in force starting tomorrow night. I will always be curious to his willingness to check down so frequently. Just seems like it is the play he calls in the huddle, meaning he is confused with the defensive front, meaning is he lacking confidence in the route of his receivers, is he afraid of his protection breaking down etc… Fitzpatrick maybe inaccurate but it just seemed that he had more confidence, checked off on the routes and positioned his protection better each snap. I also wonder if his inaccuracies are due to him getting rid of the ball Vs taking the loss with a sack. Still I do agree, I would love to see Edwards turn his corner and move on instead of the back and forth.
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Oh my, this is an understatement:
…Fitzpatrick maybe inaccurate but it just seemed that he had more confidence…
Last night, I watched Fitzy throw a good number of passes at receivers’ shins. I don’t get how he’s still 2nd on the depth chart. Brohm seems to throw a much smoother, direct, and accurate pass on most occasions.
Oh, I was VERY pleased with what I saw out of Levi Brown. I’m not as concerned as I was about that pick. He has shown something, in what little chance he’s been given.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 12, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
And Yet your willing to give Trent his fourth opportunity
Vs anyone else’s 1st or 2nd opportunity. That’s fine, I am just not as forgiving as most. Let us both hope I am wrong about Trent Edwards.
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Oh no, i’m in a bit of a sticky widget. I like Edwards, I really do. I’m torn between wanting him to succeed and the organization giving Brian Brohm an opportunity to run the offense.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 12, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll get an opportunity in week 3 or 4 of the preseason
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent's toughness
I kinda like that the o line is a mess this game. Trent will surely get smacked once and we need to toughen this guy up.
Come on guys! Drinking already?
Since when does getting concussed or otherwise injured or mauled make anyone tougher? Trent has had enough of that “toughening” already in his short career.
by Sixteenthback on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
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or something.. : )
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Really
Hasn’t worked for Trent so far! :)
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by buffalobacker on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
At first glance I was bummed because I’d love to see the entire starting o line, but giving the benefit of the doubt to a coach who does this everyday I feel its genius they do not start the entire o line. We get to see all of the backups get themselves on film to make better players and depth. Also, we should see if trent has learned anything from the chan and can throw better under pressure. In general we should see the qb who can make the plays lacking the line not to mention the rbs. I’m excited to see our pass rush as well with washingtons improved o line.
by sketchydave on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
emphasis on running game
I think we will be seeing a majority of the first series or two as a dress rehersal for the running game, with maybe a couiple passes thrown in (TE to Lee Evans or Roscoe). The passing game will be from Fitz and Brohm and Brown. I expect to see some seam throws to the Tight Ends, as well.
As for the Defense, I believe there will be emphasis on the switching back & forth from the 3-4 to the 4-3 alignments and determining which LBs will be making the calls.
CC Infantino
Not sure it's a drastic drop-off
Aside from Wood that is, and given his position, I don’t think the pass protection is much worse. Since it is the first game, the chemistry of the line is a bit of a moot point as well. Sounds like Meredith has struggled in camp, but I’m not sure Bell is ready, injury aside, to temper the doubters. Edwards will probably have to play smart to avoid injury given the state of a healthy line, why not figure out how to do that now.
Things should be made as simple as possible... and no simpler.
cuts are looming
let’s not forget, this is the time of year to determine who stays and who gets cut. There could conceivably be 1 or 2 cuts before the 2nd preseason game and certainly a couple more after that. Not top mention the possibility of picking up another team’s cut players. It will be interesting to see who shines and who doesn’t in the next 10-12 days. Also, who gets injured and is waived like Huggins.
CC Infantino
Actually, Buffalo will have three pre-season games behind them by the time they need to make their first roster cut (August 31). Then they play the Lions 9/2, then they cut to 53 on 9/4.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 12, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
How many do they need to get down to on 8/31?
CC Infantino
by lostlasvegan on Aug 12, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
75. So as it stands right now, they’d need to cut 4 players.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I could cut four guys right now.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 13, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Good For QB Evaluation Purposes
With all the O-Line and WR injuries it kind of levels the field for the QBs. They should all be playing behind pretty much the same line and throwing to the same WRs instead of one guy playing behind the first string line and throwing to the top WRs and another guy playing behind the 3rd string line and throwing to roster bubble WR. You still have the variable of the defense they’re going against but at least we should be seeing them all with pretty much the same Offensive support.
I don’t know how you can really fully evaluate Trent with this game (unless the Redskins D comes out completely flat). Because if Trent throws a lot of check downs, people will get really upset – but with the B team at o-line…
I expect to see a lot of running plays
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I think we will see a lot of McIntyre & Ferguson lead blocking for Lynch, Spiller and Bell.
When Levi comes in he will probably work out of the shotgun where he seems to be more comfortable. I wonder if we will be seeing any no huddle offense or a wildcat play? That would be fun to watch.
CC Infantino
by lostlasvegan on Aug 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope we see more Ferguson and less McIntyre
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't wait to get an idea of our new offense
I know its preseason and we wont show much, but something is more than nothing. I want to see some formations and motions that we haven’t seen recently. I CANNOT WAIT!
@ BG & MRW-
Would it be too difficult to track other players at need positions (T, G, C, FB & LB) that have long-term potential for the Bills should they get cut from their respective teams or placed on a teams PS? Like Chris Gronkowski the FB and some of the young LBs on the Cowboys…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Redskins
I just looked at their updated depth chart and they show 3 rookies for left tackle, then J Brown, S Heyer and Oldenburg as right tackles. Certainly they won’t keep all 6. At least one of the LT rookies will go to the PS (probably Selvish Capers). Their Hogs Haven web site makes many comments on how they won’t be able to evaluate anyone’s play on defense because they are playing against a 3rd teamer offense. They really don’t have anything better than the Bills do at WR either.
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by lostlasvegan on Aug 12, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Good info about their tackles...
I will definitely take a look at the Skins O-Linemen tomorrow to see what they have. If they try to stash Capers on the PS…he would be enticing (at least when I think of his play in college at WVU where he played RT).
From NFLDraftScout.com
Analysis
Pass blocking: Prototypical height and athletic build for a left tackle. Smooth kick slide, quick set and good lateral movement. Keeps his feet moving and hands active. Will punch and extend his arms to keep rushers at a distance. Gets low to cut in a hurry. Fair anchor, but he must improve his knee bend — ends playing with good leverage can push him back by getting under his pads. Has lapses in his movement in his kick slide, possibly due to forgetting the snap count.
Run blocking: Despite his background as a tight end, he likes to be physical as a run blocker. Uses a strong initial punch, and will continue pounding his man to sustain the block. Strong enough to push ends around the pocket on draws or quarterback runs. Needs to bend his knees and explode from his stance to block down on the edge. Doesn’t drive block — or even line up in three-point stance — often in WVU’s spread offense.
Pulling/trapping: Not asked to pull or trap for the Mountaineers, but could get the shot if moved inside at the next level. Has the footwork to get around the guard and center, easily getting out in front of off-tackle screens. Does struggle to get low when adjusting to players inside, meaning he would mostly get in the way of — not blow up — defenders in the hole.
Initial Quickness: Usually quick coming off the ball, whether in his kick slide in pass protection or trying to reach the end or linebacker on run plays. Can knock defenders back with his punch in pass protection, but also loses his balance lunging to land that punch. Will be late off the snap on occasion, apparently losing the count.
Downfield: Very smooth runner in space, easily reaching the second level. Can be slow to adjust to oncoming linebackers but uses his very long arms to push them off course. Plays too tall at times, losing the leverage battle or allowing linebackers to get under his shoulder to make a play. Inconsistent sustaining blocks; can do it when he remembers to move his feet after latching on. Inconsistent hitting the inside target.
Intangibles: Took over as the leader of the offensive line as a senior, though he is not a vocal player. Plays strong, and comes to the aid of teammates on the field. Did not qualify academically in his freshman year, but got on track to graduate in order to play a fourth season.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll look at those guys once they actually become available or perhaps just prior.
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