Bills Steamrolled By 'Skins In 2010 Pre-Season Debut
There is a scene from the most under-appreciated sitcom in television history, Arrested Development, that comes to mind tonight. Michael Bluth, the series' main character, opens his fridge and pulls out a paper bag on which is written the following message: "DEAD DOVE. DO NOT EAT." Michael opens the bag, peers inside, registers the contents, and mutters, "I don't know what I was expecting."
If you watched the Buffalo Bills drop their pre-season opener by a score of 42-17 to the Washington Redskins, you should probably feel a bit like Michael Bluth right now.
The Bills committed penalties - penalties that killed their own drives and extended Washington's. They committed pre-snap penalties. They wasted timeouts, blew formations and coverages, made reads too slowly, and couldn't capitalize on the few early opportunities they got. They turned the ball over, allowed big plays defensively and on special teams, and couldn't make any of their own until digging themselves into a 35-3 third-quarter hole.
In short, they played like a team that has overhauled pretty much everything they did for four years in a seven-month period. They played poorly. Tonight, they were the warningly-labeled paper bag in your fridge. What you saw wasn't surprising in the least.
Hot Start Is Short-Lived
Trent Edwards and the first-team offense started off well enough. After Buffalo's first-unit defense got off the field in short order, the offense moved quickly and efficiently down the field, though a holding penalty on Jonathan Stupar derailed what was looking like a touchdown drive. Rian Lindell's field goal made it 3-0; Edwards completed 5 of 6 passes on the drive for 44 yards.
It was all downhill from there. The first-team defense gave up touchdowns on their next two drives, one of which was set up by an ugly Edwards interception on an ill-advised pass intended for Lee Evans. Edwards completed just 1 of his next 6 passes for 14 yards with the aforementioned pick. Buffalo quickly found itself in a 14-3 hole.
After the second-team defense gave up an ugly touchdown reception to Fred Davis, punt returner Brad Banks took one 77 yards to the house to make it 28-3 just after the start of the second half. Devin Thomas then torched a blown (to say the least) coverage for a 44-yard touchdown to make it 35-3. After fourth quarter scores from receiver David Nelson and running back Joique Bell narrowed the score to 35-17, Buffalo's defense wore down, surrendering another rushing touchdown for the final score of the game.
It was ugly early, and it was ugly often. No way to talk ourselves around that simple, undeniable fact. If you're a glass-half-empty type of human, you're unhappy. If you're glass-half-full, you'll realize that, quite literally, there's nowhere to go but up.
A Few Positives Puncture A Dreary Evening
I won't waste your time with my sunshine and butterflies style, because I don't have a lot of material to do so in the first place.
- Kyle Williams seems to be adjusting to the nose tackle position quite well. He looked active and strong tonight.
- We knew this going in, but the Bills really can't go wrong at running back. All five guys looked competent tonight, with Bell and Chad Simpson breaking off several long runs. Even fullback Rodney Ferguson displayed flashes of competence as a lead blocker.
- A few players - Dwan Edwards, Donte Whitner, Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch, for starters - look to be ready for the regular season.
- David Nelson was a pleasant surprise at receiver, hauling in five passes for 47 yards with the TD and looking agile and smooth in space.
Yeah, that's about it.
Speaking Of Fred And Marshawn...
Buffalo's two incumbent running backs left this game early with injuries. Early reports indicate that Jackson's hand injury will keep him out of the remainder of the pre-season. They were later joined by rookie defensive end Alex Carrington, who appeared to sustain the most serious injury in the third quarter
I'm still trying to decide if I have the mental pain threshold to re-watch this travesty tomorrow for more insightful analysis, but that's the current plan. Please don't hold me to it if I choose the route of self-preservation. For now, leave your snap-judgment thoughts on the "new-look" Bills in the comments section. Thanks to the dozens of fans who contributed 1,025 comments in tonight's GameThread.
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I feel that even if we improve
It’s still gonna be a long, long year.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
We knew it was going to be a long year a looong time ago.
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially disappointing to me
Was the play of our interior line (that was supposed to be solid)
Edwards decision making
Maybin getting manhandled consistently
McGee looked horrible in coverage
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Edwards decision making
George or Trent? lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
McGee really looked bad
Maybin not too impressive, but did have that sweet spin move sack against the 4th stringers
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-Buddy Nix
by billsfan4life on Aug 13, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and he further proved my point that i had tried to make over and again
that zone concepts leave vulnerabilities against the 3-4, we need MAN corners, BUT he isn’t 100% and still played as much as most starters, so i am still willing to cut him some slack.
As i also feared… Scott was a huge liability in pass coverage, not as the nickel LB, but as SS, when he got beat by…. was it Devin Thomas? i really don’t remember, and i don’t wanna go look again, but i feel as though he is a significant liability as a SS. Period. All it takes is an audible and they have a basically guaranteed TD when he is up in the box. Corner looked lost. Donte wasn’t bad, Ellis didn’t live up to his practice improvement, and as far as i am concerned, Grossman looked better than he did when his team took him to the SuperBowl. It was like our second string against their first, our second( and a half) or thirds against their better than second stringers… We were hugely mismatched in a number of ways. First preseason game, super vanilla, saw some good, more bad, and they got plenty to work on.
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now."
~Bruce Coslet
by Ren Diggity on Aug 14, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Solid Interior Line?
Cordaro Howard and Christian Gaddis are solid players?
I sure did cringe at seeing Eric Wood and… oh wait, a bunch of our line was injured so they weren’t out there at all.
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions
What specifically did you see from Andy Levitre and Geoff Hangartner that leads to that comment?
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
there were two plays in the first quarter where the washington player blew up our interior line… I can’t get myself to watch the DVR to give you specfics, so if you don’t want to beleive me that is fine.
I got nothing.
by Jason from OH-IO on Aug 14, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember one blitz getting through the right side A gap. Hang and Levitre were both man up though and Howard moved to the right. Neither of their faults. I’ll have to believe you on the other.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If I am Brian Brohm..........
I have to be thrilled to know I still have a chance at this job……….better come ready to play next week.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
he does still have a chance interestingly enough. Edwards didn’t look improved… even if he “mostly” looked pretty good.
It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS
by killascript on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
and they looked like...
I want to see Brown and Brohm more… as far as I am concerned cut Fitz. Losman is better
It is Brohm’s Bills jersey that is the least stained with doo-doo... GO BILLS
by killascript on Aug 13, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely want to see more of Brohm and Brown
but after no discernible improvement from Edwards with his 29 passer rating, and reliably (slightly below) average play from Fitz and his 97 passer rating (and the first TD we have had in the pre-season in many moons)…Edwards keeps up this crap and he will be the one cut.
Scary Thought
How bad do these guys have to be if Edwards is consistently outplaying them in camp? I know game play is more important than camp play but damn.
Can we return the Dove for a refund
a la Gob Bluth???
"Talk's cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said - 'don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
-Buddy Nix
Sadly
Did it seem like most of Bills players were playing at like half speed? Joe Thiesmann thought they were tired. Maybin was disappointing, looked like kid playing a mans game. Lots of work to do… Hope Brohm transforms into pro bowl QB!
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Half Speed
Seemed like that one running back for the ‘Skins was out there jogging on some plays when he had open field in front of him. Weird night. Don’t know if it was camera angles or what, but sometimes game play did look really slow.
Looked Slow
Yeah it looked slow, because our players weren’t playing full speed. Either that or we have very slow defenders! Your right, very weird night!
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thiesmann
Sounded like one of the dumbest human beings on the planet tonight…according to Joe: 15 is half of 32; Jim Haslett was AP Coach of the Year in 2000 which was when Katrina was going on, er 2006 (Katrina was in 2005 Joe, and Haslett wasn’t AP Coach of the year either year, but Payton won in 2006); you just can’t cover that many people at the line of scrimmage (referring to 5 guys, one of whom Simpson totally whiffed on the blitz leading to the sack on Brown)…he had some other intelligent things to say, but these brought me the most delight.
Joe T. the entertainer, I love to have fun with the guy
While talking to Snyder on the booth he interrupted him to say “another interception by the Redskins” when actually was a punt (not his fault actually but quite funny)
And when trying to talk Carriker up, he’s a beast at the 3 technique coming from KC……
Carrington did not seem to hurt his legs
what was it?
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
What?
Why you say probably season ending? Geez, I hope not.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we're all sunshine and roses :)
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
WKBW’s Jeff Russo just tweeted that Fred Jackson’s hand injury will keep him out of the remainder of the pre-season.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Ouch, but Marshawn did look good from when he was in
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Marshawn’s hurt too, though not as badly.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
CJ, Bell and Simpson...
…will be carrying the load vs. Indy on Thurs. night. Not a bad thing though.
Intro
Easily the best thing you have ever written Brian…..I would buy you a frozen banana if I could.
That being said, tonight was horrible. And living in DC and putting up with insufferable Redskins fans makes it even worse…
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Why thank you! I wrote it during the fourth quarter, when there was nothing better to do.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote engagement shower thank you notes during the 4th….so not much better
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
engagement shower?
people do things like that now?
"Talk's cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said - 'don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
-Buddy Nix
by billsfan4life on Aug 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
is this the same as a Bridal shower?
"Talk's cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said - 'don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
-Buddy Nix
by billsfan4life on Aug 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever see the movie “I Love You Man”? Sorry man, but that’s you if you’re writing thank you letters.
by Buffalonian on Aug 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that what your fiance is for?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
agreed….I’ve supposedly “written” many a thank-you note over the years……
by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 14, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I've written exactly none
Mine has written probably close to fifty thus far…..sucker
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
That’s why written was in quotes….I haven’t written them either….
by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Frozen banana
I had one today in anticipation of the pending disaster
My friend asked me if I wanted a frozen banana, I said “No, but I want a regular banana later, so … yeah”.
~K
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by Kurupt on Aug 14, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not suicidal yet, but
I do have to admit that vomiting would have been entirely justified. I know, it’s preseason, but this kind of display was hard to take. It does look like we are in for a long, ugly season. I would have liked to see Fitzy play the first half, and Brown the second. Brown looks like an actual quarterback in the making… Let’s see Brohm next time around,,,
Here’s to hoping that the injuries suffered are minor ones.
by firstdownbuffalo on Aug 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Only saw parts of 2nd and 4th quarters
It’s what happens when you have two small children.
Agree with your comments about Bell, Simpson and Nelson. Lonnie Harvey also looked good. I can see what the Bills like about Levi Brown. Fourth quarter defense was a nightmare, McCargo, Ellis and Maybin were completely swallowed up by Redskin OL’s who won’t even make the roster. Reggie Corner was a disappointment too.
Corner was a disaster….dropped pick six, burned for 2 TDs (although Wilson contributed on the bomb TD), bad penalties. Ouch.
by Posluszny Pollocks on Aug 13, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
NO HE'S GOOD WE SWEAR
Worst corner on the team. I voted for him twice on the “worst of the decade” poll for a reason.
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Reggie Corner was Reggie Corner
What do you expect of him?!?!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Expectations
I guess my expectation is not so much of Corner, but of the new staff to recognize his inability to play consistently when the lights are on and get him off the team. Stop spending time managing someone into something they cannot do…manage them out.
Corner, much to my chagrin and utter dismay, lived up to my expectations of him.
That I can certainly agree with
It’s not Corner’s fault he’s out there failing. Well it is, partially. But at the same time, it sure would be nice if the coaches would stop throwing this guy out there. Luckily, as Brian’s analysis points out, he only saw one snap with the first unit D. Of course, he got beat by Cooley for a first down, but at least he was only out there for a single snap. He was getting beat by second and third team WR’s…..
Ashton Youboty and Ellis Lankster, you have your chances to be the 4th CB…….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’m sure they will – just like the QBs – these guys will all get their chances
We got the tools, We got the talent
speaking of QBs
Brown looked as good as he had in practice, as far as reads, throws and poise. I was happy with him. Backed up on the goalline, no fumbles, not flustered, just handed it off, let his back give them very little space, but Moorman got a decent one off…. all in all, i thought he showed a lot of promise for the future.
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by Ren Diggity on Aug 14, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Good News
Good News!
The Buffalo Bills will have the first pick of the 2011 NFL draft!
For those of you who like to say I’m a negative force:
If the glass is empty, there is no way it can be half full.
An aging owner who simply doesn’t have the energy to build a winning team, and the NFL’s worst front office trickle down to the field and will make The 2010 Buffalo Bills the worst since Vince Ferragamo was quarterback.
by Pietro Sirianni on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
I am not sure how that is a bad thing
Look what came out of that debacle. Kelly, Reed, Thomas, Smith, 4 straight SB chances…if your glass is still half empty you need to hurry up and drink and get another round…
Either way, nowhere to go but up.
Bad picks
Unfortunately there is no pollen to help with picks
Pollian
I think?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I think he meant pollen. If Ralph’s allergies are bothering him, he will have to leave the draft room and the Bills will make the right pick…..ok, maybe he meant Polian.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Aug 14, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Draft
If we are playing for draft picks in the mind of some then wouldn’t some patience still be in order? Nix’s first draft class, while not the panacea we as fans were hoping for, is still pretty darn good. If he has an opportunity to get someone truly special with one of the first picks, don’t you think he will? Seems to me that our 1-5 picks will most likely be able to contribute almost immediately (even if not on every down), and we built up the defensive line in so doing. I am not sure that we need some draft wizard in the mold of Polian in order to consider the Bills as having a successful draft….what would be nice would be to stop drafting DB’s like Corner (who should probably be making coffee in a drive-thru someplace) and spending the time and money on them, rather than on positions of need. Time will tell whether or not these picks were worth it, but at first glance they were. You are not going to fix every position of need, every year in the draft or FA.
Maybin
Maybin needs to wear his big boy pants. Skins plowed through him like he was made of cardboard! I know, work in progress but geeeezz..
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Ohh
He does get up quick when he gets thrown down though!
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin....
….just looks too small out there. Yea he’s fast, but there are going to be very few tackles who can’t knock him right out of the play when he comes around the edge. Honestly, I don’t think they’ll ever get anything out of him.
How can you say that? He looked great against the Skins’ fourth-stringers in the fourth quarter. I do think his very very late roughing the passer penalty against McNabb goes down as one of the dumbest plays ever made by a member of the Bills.
Man
when they would hit him high, his damn head would fling back like he was convulsing. I was embarrassed for him.
by Buffalonian on Aug 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He REALLY wanted that sack!
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
right
say what you will about his performance, he didn’t quit, and was still putting forth the effort. he has a ways to go, and we know this. we can hope that he will improve, get a little stronger in his upper body, and he didn’t get destroyed in coverage, so it could have been worse
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by Ren Diggity on Aug 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Coulda been worse, Maybin coulda got broken in half a few times!
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd string
Maybin did well against Washington’s 3rd and 4th stringers.
by Pietro Sirianni on Aug 14, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
schemes?
I must have missed the schemes Chan talked about.
Seems like we were in the 4-3 90% of the time and got torched 90% of the time.
Corner looks bad, McGee was no where and where were our middle LBs?
CC Infantino
lol
We have LB’s?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Same place we always have them...
injured on the sidelines.
Thoughts
The first drive was indicative of what we’re going to see this year. I think Gailey opened the offense up on the second and subsequent drives with the idea of passing more than running. The first drive was masterfully called, and the kind of drive that an experienced play caller puts together when he doesn’t have a great quarterback. Buffalo can really lose games big if the offense opens up and makes mistakes or goes 3-and-out a lot. Expect a lot of run, run, run, play action, run, run, short pass, etc.
Maybin needs to play out of a two point stance. When he gets down into a 3- or 4- point stance, he come out like a rocket but gets his upper body way to far in front of his feet, and can’y do much more than bull rush or try to take the corner. His hand fighting was far better out of a two point stance. Hopefully Edwards sees this and has Maybin stand up more.
The blitz packages looked bland. I don’t think that Edwards wanted to show everything that the defense had. That said, the front seven looked fairly stout considering it wasn’t doing much in the way of slanting, twisting, or overload blitzing.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
by Der Jaeger on Aug 13, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Couldn't see the first offensive drive so to your other points
Maybin is fast, there is no doubt about it. He looks small out there, but that is not something that bothers me because even though he was going against a rookie LT, at the same time, he was going against a guy his own age. That gives you another perspective.
I agree with you though, he looked better standing up, I liked his spin move late in the fourth quarter. If I’m Aaron I try to pick moves from other 3-4 pass rushers and implement them to give some kind of edge.
Blitzes being bland, yeah I saw that too, Whitner, Wilson, Wood, I didn’t like their execution. Go all out or don’t. Go out like if your life depend on it or tell the coach to send someone else. You have to have conviction and I didn’t see that on the guys sent to blitz.
Maybin
Him going against someone his own age and getting pummelled isn’t encouraging at all. He was fast getting up when he was knocked down, I’ll give him that. He’s the guy that flys by because a opponent sent him that way. Talk about a rookie! what round 4th? Has Maybin played organized football before?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
perspective it’s all I said, I don’t see where in my post I sounded encouraged about Maybin, but I don’t see total failure out there.
I’m I thrilled with his play? not at all, all I’m trying to say is that I hope he tries to be better and that Edwards can find better use of him.
I Hear Ya
Just suffering from post game syndrome Bill’s style. I too hope he improves, just looks like a long road…
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
How has nobody rec’d this comment? Superb DJ. Superb.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
he first drive was masterfully called, and the kind of drive that an experienced play caller puts together when he doesn’t have a great quarterback.
I noticed this too, but as is often the case, this was probably scripted, and practiced repeatedly, so you will see this early and often in the NFL. that said, you are absolutely right still, he still needed to sequence the plays well, and Trent audibled what looked to be two or three times, and that was something i liked, as once we gained a few yards on a run, rather than losing Trent for the season, because he “wasn’t allowed” to audible, or we were going to run what was scripted for eval or something. They treated it like a real deal game, and that was awesome to me. I really think we got to see a lot of what is going to be effective.
And Lee did not help Trent out on the pick as he definately should have recognized he had to come back to the QB (though he was just turning around i know, so maybe he just couldn’t), and it WAS DeAngelo Hall… but he should have never tried that throw, so i blame both of them still.
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Trent Edwards...
….is the same Trent Edwards we know and hate people. What a joke. At least when Fitz is in there he can run for his life. The good news is that we might be bad enough this year to get a top 5 pick. Actually, scratch the “might” and replace it with “will”.
Bills are Rams
I thought I was watching the 2008 Rams tonite
CC Infantino
by lostlasvegan on Aug 13, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea...
…they will be last year’s Rams. Strong at RB and a joke everywhere else. God this is going to be a long season. At least I won’t expect them to win this year. For some reason, I did expect them to win the last couple of years.
a joke everywhere else
The first team defense looked rather stout, I think.
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Tasker and Ray Bentley kept saying he was getting off the turf after every play. Fitzpatrick’s passes looked horrendous.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitzpatrick looked horrendous
not just his passes, but his footwork, his awkward throws, he seemed lost in the offense, and had it not been for Nelson finding space while he scrambled, we wouldn’t have likely had that TD. however, as they were in the redzone, and i feel that is all on the QB, i must give props on the score.
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I think Fitz was doing that on purpose to make Edwards look better.
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Too late for my blood...
So I will bid you all adieu with this…it is the first game of the pre-season after a major over-haul, while many of our starters are nursing injuries. Good night.
Oh yeah...
And Joe Thiesmann says some incredibly dumb and entertaining things.
lol
Yes he does at that!
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin’s game must be finesse. Practice them moves Aaron.
In the first two series we had good tempo. Good playcalling. Then it broke down.
Gailey is not using Shawn Nelson wisely. Deliberate?
When Trent threw it downfield he was usually not close. I see no meaningful change from last year.
Regie Corner. Gawd.
Moorman still booms.
McGee should play their slot WR.
What did Scuba Steve do?
In the brief time Chan showed his run game, I liked it. Traps, counters, motion. Good stuff.
I like our NT rotation. We should be fine there.
So how long did Chan show his real offensive strategy? 2 series, mabye 3.
Anyone focus on Jamon? I did not.
And I liked Clausen’s first shot. Anyone else hear the report on his foot injury? They misdiagnosed it as turf toe when in fact he tore two tendons. WTF! With CAT scans the way they are, how can you do that? They repaired them in January. Tendons, if not repaired quickly, will atrophy. Bummer.
And for their first pick in the 2011 draft the Buffalo Bills select ...........
foot injury?
Who’s foot? Clausen?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
Didn’t hear about that yet.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Injury from his Senior Year........
old news.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybins game
Call it finesse, its not working. He got pressure on what 5th team O/L? Wow.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don't think tonight is indicative of anything.
It was the first live action this team saw with a new coach and a new scheme on offense and on defense. That being said, the running game looked fantastic tonight, and that was in the very little amount they used it. This being preseason Chan is going to run what needs to be worked on, and that’s the passing game, so don’t read into tonight at all. All those 3-and-outs were because we passed, passed, passed. There’s no way that happens during the regular season.
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on Aug 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, we have to be careful rushing to judgments about a preseason game
What we saw tonight was a team letting its youngest players get their baptism in NFL football. Now that they have had it, they may very well play better next Tuesday. One pleasant surprise was Antonio Coleman, who really seemed like he had a nose for the ball and kept getting better as the night wore on. Chris Ellis looked very good at times, though he was also inconsistent. And Arthur Moats gained some badly needed experience.
I said before the game that the two players I was going to watch closely were Meredith and David Nelson. Meredith was clearly very shaky at LT. He may still make a decent RT, but he is simply not quick enough to play the left side. What we are going to do if Demetrius Bell gets injured this year is beyond me. Nelson on the other hand really impressed me. He just plain looked like a vet out there, not like an undrafted rookie. That move to adjust to the play and get open in the end zone was incredibly classy. And his downfield blocking again makes one think he has been in the NFL five years. At 6’ 5" and with great hands, he is going to be a major force this year no matter who plays QB.
Truth in this
Yeah, Chan was trying to evaluate his QBs and receivers tonight, not the run game – 18 run plays to 33 pass plays.
Run game was great – over 8 yards per run!..compared to Skins 3.4. Chan said early on that we’d be a run-based offense, and we know the depth we’ve got there, so it seems he’s trying to explore the unknown – the pass game.
So, I don’t think all hope is lost on the offense.
BUT
the defense, at least the 2nd team on down, was pretty tough to watch. how many times did we see a skins receiver catch a ball with no one within a 10 yard bubble of him? Maddening! Our 2nd and 3rd team linebackers were getting beat on coverage routinely…a pretty big nut to crack in the transfer to 3-4.
Was there to see the carnage live....
I was sitting in section 336 and as bad as it was to see it on TV tonight… It was even worse to see it up close and personal… The O-line and defensive backfield were HORRIBLE this evening…
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by chaosthepitbull on Aug 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Question
Did it appear that Bills lacked effort?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't personally feel this way
but i will say they seemed to be moving in slow motion, as i think they need a little more time to diagnose and understand their role, especially when they haven’t been playing a future HOF in practice… as far as the D goes. The O put forth good effort, as we should note that we were fielding depth on the O line, yet again, and they really held up pretty well throughout. We could have been getting destroyed and it would have been of little surprise, and yet we did not.
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So
Slow motion was a direct result of their lack of experience playing in new defense? I’ll buy that, boy growing pains for real! Hope they get it before season starts.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Chan’s confidence on 4th and short. Unless he wants more starters to be in there. Com’on man. Show some cajones.
And for their first pick in the 2011 draft the Buffalo Bills select ...........
They were on their own side of the field with Marshawn and Freddie in the locker room and three of their starting OL out with injuries. Oh, and it was the preseason.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Oh, and it was the preseason.
Oh, how I hate this excuse. We heard it numerous times last summer too. It’s still football. When the starters are getting run over, can’t cover anyone, can’t block, can’t throw, can’t tackle and so on, it does mean something. Is it the end of the world? Haha, no. But it is indicative of a bigger problem, one that can continue to manifest itself in our team/players. For a youngish team not accustomed to winning, getting drilled in the preseason is not a good thing.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’m not using it on anything you said. I’m using it on this one 4th and 1 call in their own territory. Keuka thinks they should have gone for it apparently. Do you agree with him?
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I know why you used it
I was talking in general, though.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
didn't answer the question
do you think he should have gone for it? I wouldn’t have been surprised if he did, and it was just as expected that he didn’t. better to give them a chance in all phases.
Speaking of… Special Teams looked more like the Special Olympics, which i say in the absolute most respect to special athletes. I would maybe have preferred a few guys in wheel chairs out there…. couldn’t have been much worse.
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Sure
What did he have to lose? It’s meaningless on the scoreboard, but it could have helped the offense get 3 more plays before punting. I don’t really care either way, though.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
agree
i wouldn’t care either, as i said. I was just curious what your standing was, as it is preseason, and so, IMO you can pretty much do whatever. It doesn’t surprise me to see Chan treating it as a real game situation though, to help his players understand his calling, his expectations, and real game circumstance.
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Trent Checkwards looks the same.
Am I nuts to say that I was rather impressed with our offensive line early in the game with 3 starters out?
Trent had time. What did he do? Double clutched, threw an interception due to hesitation and decides on 3rd and 12 or 13 hey let’s check down. He does not read the defense as well as fitz. I’m sorry but trents throws past 8 yards are horrendous. I was really tryin to pull for him.
Levi looked tight.
What’s up with Brohm? Why didn’t he play
by sketchydave on Aug 14, 2010 12:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
By prearrangement, Fitz got to play half the game tonight and Brohm will do the same next Thursday (when Fitz won’t play). The idea is to give the two of them a real chance to show what they can do. By all reports they are in “a dead heat” for the back-up job and Gailey is trying to be as fair to them as possible. That said, if Trent doesn’t manage to throw a TD pass during the entire preseason he could be the one leaving.
That makes a lot of sense. I am just anxious to see Brohm out there, he seems as if (during otas and some camp) he can make plays with his feet.
Then again trent looks nice in camp and fails.
Its awesome that either way levi is developing and playing, I was rather impressed
by sketchydave on Aug 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So you watched the Redskins feed huh? Because Tasker and Bentley were saying some different stuff.
On the first series, the OL looked good and so did the offense. The second series Trent got popped in the back by Orakpo and then had his protection break down on the interception you’re talking about.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I must of missed the pop in the back, I mean evans has some responsibility as well considering he didn’t step in closer to try and defend it.
I watched the nfl network redskins feed then was pissed the announcers missed the obvious holding call on kyle williams, and started f bombing the announcers like an idiot “why only redskin talk” realized it was redskin tv then I switched the 13 and watched the bbe feed
by sketchydave on Aug 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BTW......
congrats to Maybin for abusing the Skins 3rd and 4th stringers…….way to go.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
They were roughing him up too. I can’t believe how he gets pushed around. He shakes it off and keeps going, so I’ll give him his props for effort. But man watching his head fling back like that was embarrassing.
by Buffalonian on Aug 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I didnt get
to see the second half.
Did Levi play well?
Everyone keeps talking about Fitz and Brohm but does Brown look better than anyone, I got interested when he ran that 2 min drill in prac and did very well.
Any help on this would be great thanks rumblers.
Levi showed a small flash.......of decency.......
didnt have enough time to effectively get a gauge on him………….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
QB
Turn the reins over to Levi and sit back and pray. The other QB’s are a disaster with no hope whatsoever.
easy there
still not ready, but give him this year, with Chan, and if Edwards finally folds to the pressures of being an NFL signal caller for good, then give him the nod. he has a quick release, strong arm, good size, and definately showed poise. i was impressed with him backed up on the goaline.
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Yes
Levi did fine from what I saw. Threw a pick I think, but thats to be expected.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
This was bad, I was hoping to just see SOME bright spots, wasn't really expecting a whole lot to be honest
They did not disappoint in that sense, but most of the bright spots were taken away by bad mistakes by the Bills. Lynch and Freddy look ready for the season as you said Brian, and yeah, ummmm, thats all in my book.
Hope the Bills just make up their minds that the unknowns of Brown and Brohm are better than the known crud commodity called Fitzpatrick.
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You know, I’d actually like to see a shotgun offense with Levi starting.
Because that’s about the only thing that looked good tonight.
Also, Reggie Corner sucks harder than anything has ever sucked before.
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Hmmmm
You know, I’d actually like to see a shotgun offense with Levi starting.
You might be onto something. Well, injuries will likely force this, but maybe it’s worth giving Brown a shot at something like this later in the season. Call it the “Tyler Thigpen Theory”.
Also, Reggie Corner sucks harder than anything has ever sucked before.
Preach on, brother. I’ll be the Robin to your Corner-dissing Batman.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
oh come on......give him a chance.........
its a new regime……he’s never played under Edwards system before………give it time.
Did I cover them all yet?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 14, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
still football
and supposedly they kept the same concepts. and cooley is certainly a big time mismatch especially when he is just getting back onto the field. corner still sucked bad though.
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its funny the "give him a chance group" is pretty selective with who they support/bash.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 14, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
meaning?
i can say this….when you have as much depth and experience at the cornerback position as we have, there is little point in keeping additional zone corners, when we will be needing to develop a strong ability to play man coverage as well. I personally feel as though it is a stretch to believe that Corner will be successful in man to man coverage against a slot receiver, or a TE, or really anyone at all. He is better suited to watch the QB and break on the ball, not play instinctually in man to man.
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~Bruce Coslet
I support just about everyone on the team, coaches and players.
Just not Reggie Corner :)
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It's only his 3rd year!
He was a 4th round pick!
Ashton Youboty gets hurt!
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Can we change it so Corner gets hurt?! :D
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by UZ on Aug 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
He’s bionic
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It's hard to be disappointed
When you not expecting much.. Brian, kudo’s on remembering that episode because it’s so true!
Is anyone else as exited as I am to read Sir Eric’s beautiful article? Eric, I sure hope you’ve started writing it!
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
one thing that really jumped out at me
Is it just me or our pass coverage looks really bad? The TEs were getting open on every play? I liked the run defense, especially in the beginning but even from the start both their TEs were running freely, this worries me.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Brian Moorman looked good
That’s all I have to say about this game.
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by billsfan4life on Aug 14, 2010 7:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The worst thing that happened last year was...
…that when Fewell took over, he was naturally trying to win games when a lot of young guys should have been in there getting experience and probably losing games. Jauron was terrible, and allowing Fewell to think he had a chance at the job if he won was an awful move.
Oh, and start cutting some dead weight from the old regime (i.e. Hardy).
But Hardy didn't make any mistakes last night!!!
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Maybin
Its like he’s playing a real life version of the game “HORSE” but he’s spelling “BUST.” He put up the “B” last year. Now he’s working on that “U.”
UUUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Not a great way to start the season but it is the first pre-season game with a new defense and offense. Let’s see how they progress until the start of the season. It wasn’t going to be easy to rebuild the team. The Bills have to adapt to the 3-4, again it takes time to install the scheme and get the players they need. The foundation is being layed. Nix & comapny will be panning the waiver wires in the weeks to come.
I have no clue to how anyone looked or what the positives are but the score sure looked like an ass kicking!!!
I’m sticking to my 5-11 prediction… There will be plenty of ugly games until mid-season then we shall start seeing the transformation.
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horrible
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If I took some positive out of that game...
it was the Chad Simpson and Joique Bell can run the darn football. Several times those guys made it to the second level.
against 3rd stringers
but yes, they seemed to understand their gaps, and the line was far more effective than previously i had expected.
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I got to see the first half of the game
my thoughts were what happened to our Offense after that first drive. The first drive was well planned we ran effectivly and short quick passes to the FB, TE and WR’s. Where did it go after that? After that drive we started going deep and lets face it we dont have an O-line right now that can give Edwards or any QB that kinda time to go deep. I think if we would stick to the run game cause lets face it we have 5 good backs after what i saw last night, and short slants, hit people in the flats, even screen we could be a much better team. And our D I wont even go there, the secondary looked horrible, and the run D idk what to say about that it doesn’t look much better
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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 14, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
some things apparently will never change
It’s the only the first game under a totally new regime……but some things sure look famiilar:
1 – Trent still gets rattled quickly; (and now is hanging his head a la Joe Ferugson)
2 – Terrence McGee still plays 10 yards off most receivers and Reggie Corner is even worse
3 – We still will have no pass rush unless it’s third-stringers up against third-stringers
4 – Fitz throws 4-yard passes on 3rd-and-10
5 – You can count on at least a half dozen costly penalties
The UP side – a top-five pick in next year’s draft could land us a franchise QB.
Not on TV around here
Why does the only football team in NY not get shown in the capitol of NY State? I don’t get it. Its a Giants territory. YUCK.
Anyways, I got to listen to the game on 97Rock.com, and it seemed the whole game Mark Kelso kept saying that “you learn more from your mistakes”. The Bills must have earned a Bachelor’s degree last night from what I heard. They were plain awful in every aspect of the game. This new coaching staff has done wonders!!!
Maybe the whole team will get put on IR before the season starts and they will have to sign a whole new team. 2 strength and conditoning coaches?!?!? What do these guys get paid for? This team is way ahead of last years pace for the walking wounded. Seems like its gonna be more of the same ol’ Bills for us this season. Yah-friggin-hoo
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
Because it's twice as far to Buffalo as it is to East Rutherford?
by twoeightnine on Aug 14, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the geography lesson
I was actually referring to the team being inside the state lines.
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
Maybe the whole team will get put on IR before the season starts and they will have to sign a whole new team. 2 strength and conditoning coaches?!?!? What do these guys get paid for?
Yeah I hate it when guys get dragged to the ground by their facemask and put their arms out as they are hitting the ground and break their hand. Those S&C coaches should really work on avoiding those situations.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Nice.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 14, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I forgot that Fred Jackson has been the only injury this season
"Maybe winning isn’t everything for 2010"
LOL. You have to think to yourself – what injuries can S&C coaches prevent? The team hasn’t had any pulled or torn muscles. There have been legit football-related injuries like Ed Wang’s wrist, Fred Jackson’s hand/wrist, Marshawn’s leg getting rolled up, Easley’s knee, Jenkins shoulder. These aren’t preventable by S&C coaches. Pulled groins, hamstrings, etc are.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 15, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
The Defense
From what I saw the defensive line is undersized and got pushed around. The linebackers often looked confused and did not work in tandem with the line. They looked awful in zone coverage. I did not see enough of the secondary to judge it. Unless some serious development happens in three weeks this years defense looks worse than last years.
by Pietro Sirianni on Aug 14, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome AD reference, Brian.
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Few Highlights
I had a buddy that was less than discriminating in his tastes in women. His theory was to basically find even the smallest trait about a girl and concentrate on that. That’s kind of how I’m approaching last nights game. There was one or two things I liked about how the Bills played (like the play of D. Nelson), and I’ll concentrate on that! Remember it’s only preseason, and the first game at that. Hopefully our girls start getting progressively better looking!
I agree
Of course I was disappointed in not seeing more. on the score board. But I was encouraged by the play of a few. Namely, D. Nelson. I agree with you there. He looked fluid and quick for such a big man. Unbelievable that he went undrafted. I also like the play calling of Chan – while we had both starting backs available. It was obvious that everything changed once Fred and Marshawn both went down.
I think Trent and our O will surprise this year if we can be relatively healthy during the season.
Bills Bad but also Unlucky
Cornerbacks had numerous chances at INTs and at least two shots for pick sixes. The first one was the obvious drop, but the second one occurred on one of the touchdown passes, the redskins announcers were like "had that ball been thrown well it would have gone 99 yards the other way. That combined with some questionable calls/lack of calls prolonged primarily Redskins drives and skewed the score greatly
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If you watched the Bills feed of that second one, whoever the DB was got caught looking inside. He was doing fine but as soon as his head turned to look back inside the ball was thrown and he was a hair late getting outside. I wish I could remember which guy it was now.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
But it was also one of Grossman’s throws that are usually intercepted, the DB was initially in great position, had Grossman threw a fastball to the WR as per usual it would have be a great play for the Bills. But this goes to my point that they suffered from some bad football luck in this game for sure. It isn’t an excuse, but it is a mitigating factor in how much the Redskins scored on them.
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Grossman looked better than i think i have ever seen him
but Corner looked about as bad as i have ever seen him, as well.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Uggh...
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 14, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
I was very surprised Brohm didn't play.
I hope he’s given the opportunity while Fitzpatrick sits for the next game.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 14, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
That’s the plan according to John Wawrow.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 14, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s the plan.
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 14, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Arrested Development was the greatest comedy ever…after watching my DVR of the game, I’ll go with G.O.B.’s “Go back from whence you came!” as I hurl this dead dove of a team into the Pacific Ocean.
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by Port Royal on Aug 14, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty Pathetic
The Bills looked awful though the running backs looked great. Maybin needs to be moved all over the line. He was manhandled coming from the outside. I hope our D looks better when they aren’t so vanilla…
Edwards sucks, Fitz sucks. Brown should be the starting QB; what do we have to lose?? Edwards looked just like he did last year…..
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