Bills WR Nelson To Miss Remainder Of Pre-Season
by Brian Galliford on Aug 17, 2010 5:57 PM EDT
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Buffalo Bills wide receiver David Nelson, an undrafted rookie out of Florida, had been one of the team's biggest stars this summer. Today, he became the latest in a long list of injured Bills, as he was carted off the practice field Tuesday with an ankle injury. BuffaloBills.com reports that Nelson will not play any more pre-season games, and his status for the start of the season - should he make the team - is up in the air.
The 6'5", 217-pound Nelson had been so impressive in training camp that he made his NFL debut last Friday in Washington as the team's No. 4 receiver, working in with the first-team offense on a few snaps. He ended that game with five receptions, 47 yards, and his first career touchdown. Buffalo's very young and unproven at receiver, and Nelson was one of only a few players that had made a positive impression both in the camp setting and during live game action.
Nelson apparently rolled the ankle after making a catch and turning upfield, according to reports.
Fred Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, James Hardy, Ed Wang, Danny Batten and John Destin did not practice Tuesday, while Jairus Byrd and Marcus Easley were not present, according to Joe Buscaglia at WGR 550. Byrd's "complication," as Chan Gailey termed it, is considered minor, while Easley is preparing for knee surgery.
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I wouldn't smile if I was James Hardy
The fans will eat him alive. He makes the roster he will need to produce or the fan base will be all over him. The bad thing is there maybe no one to push Hardy except for Gailey and I wouldn’t want that pressure either.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
i wouldn't worry about the fans
i am worried about the opponent. They are the ones who will get the chance to eat Hardy alive. Kid is a liability. Not that half the roster isn’t.
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
by Ren Diggity on Aug 18, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
if Mckelvin doesnt get his act together this whole 2008 draft class will have produced nothing for us….two guys drafted in the seventh round( S. Johnson and D. Bell) give that class there best chance at being productive. I wanted Hardy to give us that red zone threat so bad…but i find it hard to believe he’d have beat out the incoming rookies, Nelson, or Jackson for that matter.
he may actually make the team by default with everybody going down..hopefully Nelson has showed enough to make the team and hopefully he wont be out long
by buffalo bennie on Aug 17, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
and Nelson was one of only a few players that had made a positive impression both in the camp setting and during live game action.
You got that right Brian.
Wouldnt that be something if he still ended up with a roster spot? I think most of us think that one of the WR spots will be Hardy or Nelsons… not both. That would say alot about both, if Nelson ended up with that spot. I like Nelson for that spot, still.
THIS is our year.
This is depressing
I hope he still makes it and sticks on the team. Jeez we just can’t catch a break here..
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
I think if the bills choose not to send him through waivers it will say a lot about their opinion of him and whether or not he was projected to the final roster. If they plan on using him this season, they won’t risk losing him to another team.
Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.
The fact that Gailey is even talking about him being ready for the start of the season is pretty significant to me.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 17, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
what wide reciever , including evans, has been talked about more or made more plays all year? what other wide reciever is 6’5’’? yea i know who, but please dont mention him. I think he’ll be there on the opening day roster..
by buffalo bennie on Aug 17, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats
exactly what I thought when I saw that quote!!
That was not a laterall!!!
by brendar of the bills people on Aug 17, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That tells us all we need to know. Sounds to me like he is already in the plans for the season. Notice what he said when Huggins went down. Spoke of the injury, not the future. Nelson, he specifically mentioned his injury in relation to the beginning of the season. I think he’s on the roster already.
Yes, Brian is exactly right. Nelson was the #4 WR at the time of his injury. Unless he is going to be out for most of the season he will definitely be on the final roster, and if he is out for a very long time the Bills will put him on IR to safeguard him. The sad thing is that this will surely delay his very impressive development.
That sucks
Was looking forward to seeing how he might play with the starters and/or against starters….
Hope this doesn’t cost him a job he was on the verge of earning.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 17, 2010 6:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for this
Hope this doesn’t cost him a job he was on the verge of earning
there is some optimism for you… seriously. i truly hope that what we saw so far is enough, as he makes our WR core better. That and keeping Hardy off the field. : )
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
I've said that about plenty of our guys
When I feel its deserved. Nobody ever seems to acknowledge that though!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 17, 2010 10:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i will admit to you
that i force myself to appreciate guys that i know to be sub par. (though i will still not agree with your assessment of JB… not starting again, just holding true to favorite player) But, I mean, what choice do we have? when we don’t have a line, we haven’t had a pass rush, we can’t convert 3rd downs, we end up having multiple 3rd downs…. i mean, when Josh Reed is your go to guy, there is an issue. ultimately, I am hoping for us to develop some guys, over the next couple years, that prove to be similar to what NO did with their guys. Get guys that are 6 footish, and get three or four of them out there at a time, and take advantage of mismatches that they create.
Here’s to hoping we find at least 1 WR this year, so that we don’t need to be drafting any next year. If Steve Johnson, and Nelson can pan out this year, we can bring along Roosevelt (this year?) and Easley (next year :( ), then we have a good WR core, IMO. I know that there is little to support this belief; apart from being productive on offense, as i think most would agree our running game is more likely to be our most effective weapon.
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
What is going on with all of these injuries?
Are we trying to weed out the weak, or are The Bills suffering from some sort of curse? I think they should have a Holy Man chase off the evil spirits and bless the team. The saddest part of this is I am so desperate I’m not even kidding!
I live in Jets/Giants territory. Every Sunday I put on my Bills colors and go take 4 hours of mockery by myself. Sometimes someone will take pity on me and say “They’re the only team that plays in NY state you know.” That makes it worse, I do not want pity, I want to be able to say that the Bills have a team and shove it down their throats.
So for my sake, please bring in a Holy Man, Shaman, whatever and cleanse the Bills of their curse. I will pay the man myself.
by Pietro Sirianni on Aug 17, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
There is no curse
It’s the nature of football. Most of these injuries are not significant. There are some players around the league out for the season already. At least many of the Bills players will return at some point sooner than later.
I respectfully disagree
There is a curse. What harm would it do to try out my theory? Humor an overly-frustrated Bills fan, why not?
by Pietro Sirianni on Aug 17, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with this. there have already been lots of bad, bad injuries this preseason, and we haven’t had any of them….yet.
by quantumuprising on Aug 18, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I take checks, or cash only...
mail to……
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
I’ve played competitive volleyball a long time, and one thing I know is that sometimes, with lesser talents comes a higher risk of injury. Now, I’m not saying that is the case here — Fred Jackson’s hand injury happened far away from any other Bills player, for instance — but a missed block by a teammate or poor technique in some way by one teammate can increase another player’s risk of injury. Maybe it just seems like the Bills have more injuries than other teams. At least CJ Spiller didn’t fall down a bunch of stairs – knock on wood. That’s more curse-like.
Yep
You make a good point
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
by buffalobacker on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Noticing a trend
Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.
by thekotton on Aug 17, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL, you found yourself a sig :-)
Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Noticing another trend
pictures of small dogs.
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 18, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahaha
I have to rec that just because its one of the funniest and truest statements i have seen on this blog lately.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 18, 2010 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions
And for my next non Bills related joke…
"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 18, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Darwin theory --- Natural selection in effect (Read: Hardy)
OR
“This is a tough game for tough men.”
Either way, fluke injuries do happen. (Nelson, Lynch, Freddie).
As far as our walking wounded go (Poz, Wood, etc, etc, etc, etc), if they are ready to play medically this week, then play them a lot to get ready for week 1.
If not, then let them continue to heal until they are full up 100%.
Rather have everyone ready to go than go back to early and make the injury worse. Everyone has to play themselves into football shape the first few games anyway.
For those of you that used to play football, you know exactly what I mean.
"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 17, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
"This is a tough game....
for tough people." i don’t believe it is in the bi laws that a female couldn’t be in the league. if she were tough enough… : )
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
Women go through labor. They’re definitely tough enough.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Kool & The Gang - Summer Madness
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i live out in ohio now, real close to the mangold family – his sister would probably turn aaron maybin or james hardy or a bunch of other people into swiss cheese, depending upon what side of the ball she was on.
by quantumuprising on Aug 18, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
i hereby anoint thee rip van winkle.
by quantumuprising on Aug 18, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Jauron v Gailey
I only bring this up to stop the bashing of the previous regime. Our injury problems were blamed on Jauron. Now that we have two strength and conditioning coaches dedicated to different positions, this was supposed to be the smart move to prevent the rash of injuries.
Injuries are injuries.Every team experiences them. the key is having depth to handle them. We have been seriously unlucky the past three years and maybe that trend is continuing. My take is that everyone may be pressing too hard and the stress or tension may be responsible. The guys need to play more lose.
I think we now have better overall experience and depth in some key areas to help us overcome our injuries. So I am not worried.
Luck
David Nelson was/is somewhat intriguing, but injuries to late round draft picks and undrafted free agents aren’t indicative of very much. Weaker, smaller athletes tend to be unlucky more often than stronger athletes. When Buffalo fields a more talented team, I have feeling they’ll be much more “lucky” with injuries…As for Gailey’s emphasis on practicing actual football rather than discussing it theoretically, I’ll be more interested in seeing if his team comes out ready tom hit when the games count (unlike Jauron’s teams) rather than worrying about injuries to training camp fodder.
"Godzilla is coming so get ready." -abayarde
the difference is that there hasn’t really been any important season ending injuries yet. I feel like there were 17 people on IR by the end of week two last year.
by quantumuprising on Aug 18, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Small sidenote question....
What is the surface they practice on at SJF?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It’s natural grass for the afternoon practices and artifical turf (I don’t know the brand) in the college’s stadium at night.
Never been to a night practice
thanks, Mack
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Cool, thanks
I looked up the Stadium, and they have something called OmniGrass. Not that I really believe it to be the case, but I wonder if this turf has been part of the injury problems we’ve been seeing over the past few years. Maybe it’s not good on the joints? Maybe guys feet get stuck in the turf more, leading to situations like Nelson’s rolled ankle?? Who knows. Just a thought.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I sometimes train on similar stuff at the high school down the road. It’s definitely nothing like grass. Sure, it’s even, but it’s a bit elastic-like when you cut and pivot.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Kool & The Gang - Summer Madness
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
you’d think so, but there’s extensive literature on the subject of grass vs. different kinds of turf – for baseball, there’s a huge difference (because most of the turf is usually just carpet on top of concrete), but for football, the last time i checked, there was no significant difference when it came to injuries.
by quantumuprising on Aug 18, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Nelson was hurt during an afternoon practice, so it happened on natural grass, not OmniGrass. Reggie Corner, who was covering him, unintentionally stepped on his foot as he went down, caused him to twist his ankle, so it had nothing to do with the playing surface in this instance.
I believe Nelson made the catch
so Corner was a step slow getting there. my sarcasm, these things happen, I like Corner, but for him to gain a step would be one in the right direction.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Friggin Reggie Corner
He’s got the opposite of a Midas touch.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wonder how much he has really hurt us
between lack of production, taking reps from Ashton so we still don’t know what he has… keeping us from seeing a lot of Lankster, or Sargeant, or C/D. Harris…. I really truly think he is a zone corner to a tee (along with Sargeant and C Harris probably), and i think we need to see if we have some that are capable of man to man.
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
Practice fields are Two Fields of natural grass.
laid out beautiful. The stadium is turf. Remember small school so when I say stadium, I mean seats on one side of the field only. All three fields are parallel starting with the turf field. I can’t tell you if they use the turf field at all. If they do it is very seldom. You will see Lindell there sometimes more frequently than the rest of the team.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Cool, thanks
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
They were on grass today.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like all of last season. =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Weren't we all
at least before it started.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Thanks for the prayers. Results are much better than expected. Takin it day to day but should be back on the field as soon as next week!
Nelson just tweeted
http://twitter.com/DNelson83/status/21453486661
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 17, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Cool, good for the kid.
Thanks MRW
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He was injured earlier in camp and Chan said he’s be out a week but he was back in a couple days. So I just asked him if he’s ready to prove Chan wrong again. If he responds I’ll let you guys know.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 17, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
More from Nelson
Cant give out specifics, but will be similar to last time. Cant hold me off the field for long!
http://twitter.com/DNelson83/status/21455138570
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t believe I am saying this, but what would we do without Twitter?
Hopefully he gets back soon. He may have a shot to make the team. I have liked what I’ve seen so far.
Is this your homework, Larry?
by Schooled You on Aug 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Meh.
I find Twitter to be painfully trite…I hope Nelson makes it back soon though. i doubt one preseason game is enough of a body of work for an undrafted rookie to make an NFL team.
"Godzilla is coming so get ready." -abayarde
True, it is a longshot for him to make the team. I have grown tired of Hardy though, he is the one Bill that gets hurt more often than Trent Edwards.
Is this your homework, Larry?
by Schooled You on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As Brian points out in his piece, Nelson is currently the #4 WR on the depth chart, which means he has an excellent chance of being on the final roster. In fact, the big surprise would be if he DIDN’T make it.
I hope he doesn’t get “Stupar’d”.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 18, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
What was his injury last time?
A few weeks ago he pulled a hammy right?
And didn’t he get hurt in June or early July at OTA’s or rookie minicamp?
Is he injury prone. Looking over his Florida game log, he missed big chunks of the 2007 and 2008 seasons, and didn’t play in this past year’s LSU game. That could just be him not playing, or was he hurt? I found an article saying he hurt his right ankle in April 2009. I wonder if this is a chronic issue for him???
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
fair question
but let me pose this…. is he any MORE injury prone than a 5’9" Roscoe Parrish is going to be? We need WR depth, and kids that we know can play, and Nelson has proven to be as capable as any WR that we have fielded this decade, not named Lee Evans.
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
I don't think it matters if Roscoe is injury prone or not
I really don’t think Nelson is fighting for Parrish’s job…
I don’t think wondering if Nelson is injury prone relates to whether Roscie or anyone else is though.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
disagree
they are all fighting for the same 5 or 6 spots. There seem to be only 2 near guarantees. That leaves 3 or 4. They are all related to each other. Should Jones, Roosevelt, and Nelson once healthy, all prove better than Roscoe and Hardy, then the staff will be fine with letting the “vets” go. we need players. we don’t need to keep guys who can’t play, that keep the other guys from getting a shot. Chan has been saying this since coming to the team. I doubt he will suddenly change his mind, if these guys are continue to be constantly injured, consistently lost, and terribly unproductive.
Optimism is free. Too bad so many are "too good" for free stuff. If you have some, donate your optimism here. They may not accept it, but someday, if they need it, they can swallow their pride and appreciate it.
sweet
now i can follow him on twitter
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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Aug 18, 2010 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions
sweet mrw – what was last time?
I'm not sure we have the tools or the talent....
by J2 on Aug 18, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I seem to remember him tweeking a hamstring or something.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Man..
We brought in 2 guys for this problem! 2! I know, I know, sh@# happens.
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Aug 18, 2010 2:38 AM EDT reply actions
Hmmmmm
I’m not sure if the injury to Nelson helps Hardy as much as it helps Naaman Roosevelt or Chad Jackson who have had their moments in camp. Now both should see extra action in Thursday’s game.
Has Hardy shown anything or is he just being kept because he was a #2, if he was a lower round pick I doubt he would still be on the roster…
.
I don't suffer from insanity;
I enjoy every minute of it
So
He’ll be our Victor Cruz!! I can deal w/that!!
That was not a laterall!!!
by brendar of the bills people on Aug 18, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
Get well soon Nelson
Chan Gailey's #1 Fan!
by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
On his way back!
"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
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