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With Spiller, You Take The Bad With The Breathtaking

Buffalo Bills rookie running back C.J. Spiller is one of the NFL's hot topics this lovely Friday morning after his 10-rush, 54-yard performance in Thursday night's 34-21 win over the Indianapolis Colts. You'll be seeing a lot of Spiller's scintillating 31-yard touchdown scamper in highlight packages today; Spiller made two-time Pro Bowl end Robert Mathis miss in the backfield, crossed up cornerback Jacob Lacey at the second level with ease, and then juked past two-time Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea on his way to paydirt.

If you weren't convinced of it before, you should be now: Spiller is a uniquely gifted player capable of taking it to the house every time he touches the football. He has legitimate superstar potential.

One of the bigger problems with speed backs - and young, inexperienced speed backs in particular - is their tendency to be very feast or famine with their touches. Buffalo's coaching staff won't care in relation to the scoreboard when Spiller averages 5.4 yards per carry and sparks his offense with a touchdown, but they'll care when they look back at the film and see some negative plays for that very same offense.

Star-divide

First thing's first - if Spiller gets anything in the way of daylight, he's got a legitimate chance of putting points on the board. Setting aside his touchdown run, there were several more plays on Thursday night that, had it not been for last-second shoestring tackles and poor luck, could have been much more than the modest gains they were. Perhaps even more importantly, Spiller proved himself capable of pass-blocking well enough to help his offense, as well; on Trent Edwards' 70-yard scoring strike to Lee Evans, for example, Spiller stepped into Dwight Freeney and kept him at bay long enough for Edwards to sit in the pocket and throw it down field. Spiller struggled to pass protect against Washington, so strides in that department were arguably nicer to see than his big runs.

Take a look at Spiller's play-by-play against Indy to see how feast or famine he can be, even in an excellent performance:

Run Line Result
1 Left End 4-yard gain
2 Middle 31-yard TD
3 Right Tackle No Gain
4 Middle 6-yard loss
5 Left Tackle 1-yard gain
6 Middle 3-yard gain
7 Middle 5-yard gain
8 Left Guard 12-yard gain
9 Left End 6-yard gain
10 Middle 2-yard loss

In 10 rushes, it's not very fun to see three runs for no gain or negative yardage. That's going to happen with a young speed back and an inconsistent (to be kind) offensive line. Take out that touchdown run, and Spiller averaged 2.56 yards on his remaining nine runs - and he still very nearly broke more big gainers. That will be the essence of Spiller as he begins his NFL career - breathtaking big plays with a healthy side of negative, as well. When this guy finds consistency in all phases of his game, that's when Spiller will enter superstar territory.

It was very easy to see what sets Spiller apart last night. He gets to the edge of the defense with astonishing ease. His cutting ability makes Roscoe Parrish look rather pedestrian. His acceleration is top-notch, his vision is excellent, and he's got great instincts and a nose for the end zone. You have every reason to be excited about Spiller's pro prospects; he does things that very few human beings are capable of doing. But for now, the simple fact of the matter is what we'll have to take some bad with the breathtaking.

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there were several more plays on Thursday night that, had it not been for last-second shoestring tackles and poor luck, could have been much more than the modest gains they were.

i think i might attribute some of this, and i guess the thesis of the whole article, to “reggie bush syndrome.” Guys like those two who just hit the B button anytime they want have learn how to sometimes just hit a hole and go instead of juking like crazy. It worked a few times on some plays, like the td, but other times it looked like him slowed him down and made him move east-west.

by quantumuprising on Aug 20, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

As Steve Tasker mentioned during the broadcast last night, sometimes a rookie RB needs to learn to just go down

rather than keep trying to make something happen with a bad play. He said this during the -6 yard rush on his fourth carry, and it really is something that he (hopefully) will learn quick, that way he avoids needless wear and tear!

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

“Learn to just go down” wish my GF would learn that as well ;) TWHS.

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by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like they were saying on the BBE broadcast last night, “just go down.” There were a few plays that, he will learn, to just go down. Dont back-peddle or dance around. Just take the 1 or 2 yard loss… dont turn it into 3 or 4 yard loss.

His pass blocking improved, but still not there yet… but hes obviously young and has time to work on it.

There was about 2 other plays that he got caught on his feet… if he didnt he might have had some more huge gainers.

Overall for his first start, in his 2nd pro game… I thought the kid did real good. It wasnt all gravy… but dang hes going to be fun to watch this year.

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

That and by dancing or struggling forward on a losing yardage play, he opens himself up to injury needlessly

taking a shorter loss and avoiding needless hits are the big thing with a youngster like that because we need him as healthy as possible for as long as possible!

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take it

Bad with the breathtaking. Better than bad with the worse.

Things should be made as simple as possible... and no simpler.

by garcia76 on Aug 20, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

One run a game

I would be happy if this season he can bust one 20+ rush a game. Now I know that will get many of you saying what? Spiller has great talent like you said, however he will get 10-15 rushes a game I predict, when Jackson and Lynch are healthy. For the first game I expect him to have more rushes but a normal game 10-15. So if he can bust one rush for 20+ yards a game, I think thats pretty good considering he will not be the feature back. Anything more than that in the rushing department for him would be great.

I do expect some good return numbers and some receiving numbers to be there to. But one 20+ yard rush a game, I think he would help a lot, hopefully it will be in the red zone when he does it.

A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it

by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I would be happy if this season he can bust one 20+ rush a game.

That brings back memories of Travis Henry for me. That guy was money in the 4th quarter. He seemed to break long runs near game’s end. If Spiller can keep his burst going until the end of the 4th, the Bills stand a chance in games.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

spiller should be somewhat fresher than most backs in the 4th because we do have 3 backs. If that game is close he could change the whole game in seconds. If the D is tired in the fourth watch out because the stampede will run all over than. Can you say number one rushing team in teh league. I didnt think about the 4th and Spiller great thought.

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

that guy was a mule. he’d go 15 for 30 in the first three quarters and then finish the game with 25 for 100. he never seemed to tire out near the end of a game.

NOW we get ready for the Next game and in LESS then a month ALL of you my friends BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BE .
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by the_prophet on Aug 20, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. He was just so high that he couldn’t feel himself getting tired.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lets hope

Spiller is like him minus getting high all the time

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the end. I think Henry had a few mules vs. being one.

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by fansince60 on Aug 20, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mule is the perfect description for Henry

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was watching the game with my son ...

and I just finished telling him that we’ll know in preseason if Spiller will truly be an electrifying player. I said electrifying players don’t do it every play or every series, but they seldom go a whole game without making you say, “WOW”. I expect Spiller to make rookie errors in judgement, but if he’s going to be one of those guys that gives you a “WOW” play or two every game, I’ll take it. A “WOW” play doesn’t have to be a 31 yard TD run. Sometimes it’s a 10 yard burst for a first down you didn’t think you were going to get. Now if we can just get a “WOW” play from #58. We’re in year two and I’m still waiting.

by MrFurious1 on Aug 20, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

he made an immediate contribution

no it wasn’t all pretty, but he made an immediate and sizable contribution to the team winning a football game. it’s been a while since I’ve seen someone in a Bills uniform significantly influence the outcome of a game with a superb individual performance. he should have been tackled three times. the bills could have still won without that one run, but you have to think that it gave the whole offense a shot of confidence and given the previous red zone preseason woes, those points were not exactly up for the taking.

yes, he is still learning and it was great to see progress, but if on top of that learning we also see an immediate contribution to winning football games, we have a very special rookie. not a lot of rookies change the outcomes of football games.

by Squirmin' Thurman on Aug 20, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

loved

seeing lee and steve blocking down field with the line rumbling after!

by dav630 on Aug 20, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Spiller is very fun to watch. Bills run game is very promising this year.
I hope they find a way to make Spiller more involved in pass too.

by hightower_mc on Aug 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Spiller and J-Bell looked impressive

J-Bell (11 rushes, 80 yds, TD)
Spiller (10 rushes, 54 yds, TD)

I knew Chan Gailey liked to run the ball but to get that type of performance out of two rookies is unbelievable, especially against the Colts. It’s nice to know if Jackson and Lynch go down we have deep talent at running back.

by Buffalo Blakeslee on Aug 20, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Wish we could

go with a 4 back set in the backfield could you see that. Jackson, Lynch, Spiller and Bell…haha the defense would be so lost. But we are def deep and its great to see

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just bring back the wishbone with Freddy as the "QB"

It would be the super wildcat or something

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s been a long time since we’ve had an offensive weapon who is capable of breaking something open at any time. It’s refreshing.

by Jeff Winters on Aug 20, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It was nice

To have a Bills player not be the butt of the anchor’s jokes on Sportscenter….

Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!

by fansince83 on Aug 20, 2010 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris Berman

I cannot wait to hear what Chris Berman comes up with when he’s going through CJ Spillier highlights. I see him saying…..“WHAT!!!!???” when CJ breaks someone’s ankle.

by Buffalo Blakeslee on Aug 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just be prepared for “WHOOP!”

by Brian Galliford on Aug 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

stumblin’, bumblin’, rumblin’…

NOW we get ready for the Next game and in LESS then a month ALL of you my friends BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BE .
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by the_prophet on Aug 20, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember

the Parrish punt return where he had like 5 Whoops in it and it was so sweet to watch over and over. I believe it was last year or the year before. Spiller will have many Whoops in his career

A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it

by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

two years ago vs. Seattle

I remember that highlight well because I had my Bachelor Party that game which was the home opener vs. Seattle. It poured the entire first half but we came out with the victory!!

by Buffalo Blakeslee on Aug 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha just beat me to it

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

was there

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Aug 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 08 opener vs Seattle. WHOOOP!

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure spiller will have a few of those games I am hoping its the season opener this year. I will be there in the endzone 8 rows back

A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it

by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Im up in the rockpile for this one… we sold our seasons in 131 and ended up buying these ones. I like watching games from all over the stadium… in the lower bowl at least.

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that was a great game to be at! My dad, bro, uncle and I all went and we were on such a high after that game!

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing Spiller in person

It struck me as odd how anyone could consider him a waterbug. He’s jacked, and I think he’s going to be built for the long haul as a rusher in this league. He doesn’t look anywhere near as small as advertised.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree. I think CJ's build may juuuust be big enough to run between the tackles and

carry a decent workload each game. I don’t see him as fragile as a Roscoe Parrish or Darren Sproles type of guy. Which is very exciting

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by StroudFanClub on Aug 20, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

darren sproles is NOT fragile

he’s only small. but trust me, that guy has pounded the f*** out of people before

I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.

by Adam_K on Aug 21, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he stands next to Lynch and Jackson you can see, though. He’s smaller than they are. He’s shorter, too.

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by MattRichWarren on Aug 22, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think spiller’s few bad runs are okay, and it was his first starting game so, i expect better play soon

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by killascript on Aug 20, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Not trying to compare Spiller to Barry Sanders, but...

Barry Sanders’ negative plays are talked about as much as his breathtaking ones. Still, you’d be hard-pressed to recall a single one of those negative plays. So if Spiller can make a name for himself as a big-play back, few will care if he has a number of negative plays.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest of CJ’s negative plays wasn’t really even his fault. On that -6 yd run, he was going to be tackled as soon as he got the ball. The best he could have possibly done was about -5 yards if he had gone down right away.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 20, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is true. If I remember correctly, Levitre was super late kicking over on a blitzer.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, I’m pretty sure that’s what happened.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 20, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i remember tasker going “uh oh here comes a safety blitz”

by quantumuprising on Aug 20, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember Tasker commenting “Yeah, that usually means you’re one of the better players on your team” in response to Bently discussing Bell’s collegiate accomplishments. I had to laugh, because 2k yards doesn’t usually mean you are, you ARE the team.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Announcers

Weren’t both announcers former Bills on NFL network broadcast last nite? Steve Tasker was one, who was the other fellow?

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by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Bentley

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by fansince60 on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Tasker had the best quote of the night...

“We just got a little piece of Youboty!” – Steve Tasker

I almost spit on myself…

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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Home of "Spiller the Thriller"

by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and saw Ray Bentley at my work today

solid player on a team of stars… he is actually a good announcer. I like the tandem

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by killascript on Aug 20, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct, the overloaded and Andy didn't make the play

And Dr. is right that the loss would have only been a bit smaller, but he would have taken 3 less shots if he had fallen. My worry is keeping him healthy through this season so once the team is good, he can be a part of it in a couple of seasons!

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Joique Bell is a bigger, and better topic look at the numbers he’s putting up. He had 80 yards last night and also had a TD. I would love to see him make the team and the Bills keep 4 runningbacks.

Season to BILLieve!

by mroy1239 on Aug 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Bell will make the team. Remember that Bell was doing that against reserves and guy who might not have a spot on their roster. Bell is great, but we need to consider the competition he faced.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is why I would like to see him take a couple snaps not as a starter but against starters.

Season to BILLieve!

by mroy1239 on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

with jackson and lynch’s injury histories (nagging injuries, a game here and a game there), and the fact that they’ll be using spiller for a lot of different looks (not just RB), i’d be surprised if they didn’t go four backs.

NOW we get ready for the Next game and in LESS then a month ALL of you my friends BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BE .
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by the_prophet on Aug 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’m thinking, because I think their going with a two runningback set too, this year.

Season to BILLieve!

by mroy1239 on Aug 20, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those Spiller doubters

of which there are a few postings on this site, I live in ACC country and have watched SPiller at CLemson for the past 4 years. He is the real deal and he is not a REggie bush – You cannot teach quickness, he has great vision, and to say that Marshawn Lyunch is a better back, you must be smoking some of the same tobacco that Marshawn is smoking! He can also catch the ball out of the backfield and has that threat. Lynch just runs straight ahead and Fred Jackson is much better than Lynch! Not only that, but one more strike and Lynch is sitting home for the year.
Spiller is ten times more classy and Marshawn

by BuffaloWhiner on Aug 20, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Either way

having all three backs gives us three different threats and three different run styles. Cant wait to see what spiller does this year, but I wish everyone of them the best. They will all help the team this year at some point, and maybe one more than the other but having all three cant hurt us

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So how do you feel about Marshawn Lynch?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spiller Compared To Bush

Spiller isn’t Bush and Bush isn’t Spiller. Bush can only hope to play to Spillers level of excellence. :) Kinda like this kid so far!

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by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

spiller

Used in tandem with a more traditional running back, I think Spiller can be a major difference maker. Both Lynch and Jackson fit the description of a running mate for Spiller so i hope they hurry back soon…A good gameday coaching staff will be able to accurately judge the flow of a particular game to determine when to have the home run threat taking the majority of the carries verses the bruiser. I’ll be watching Gailey just as closely as Spiller come September.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Used in tandem with a more traditional running back, I think Spiller can be a major difference maker.

To me, Spiller looked the part of a traditional back last night. He’s definitely got enough game to be featured.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

He could be a featured back, gain 1600 yards rushing and a team will lose a few extra games each year because too many 1st and 10s turn into 2nd and 13s…there’s a reason barry sander’s Lions teams weren’t usually legitimate contenders and it wasn’t all the traditional excuse that it was 100% the offensive line…Sanders lost games with his dancing. I like Spiller a lot. That being said, RB by committee is here to stay in the NFL and Spiller is tailor made for such a time share.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think is so unfair to blame the Lions losing on Sanders. He was the only reason they were competitive at that time. He was on a team with no one to support him. Herman Moore was good, but I can’t remember their QB aside from Scott Mitchell. It was not a pretty place to be for Sanders.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney Peete!

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by bflo on Aug 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally disagree

I realize everybody loved Barry Sanders (wasn’t a huge fan, myself, but i read the paper), but those teams had 4000 yard passers (mitchell), record setting receivers (Moore, Perriman), a Hall of Fame LT, and stars on defense like Spielman, Swilling, Porcher, etc…it used to drive me nuts that Teflon Barry never got any of the blame in Detroit. I distinctly remember Sanders absolutely choking away a playoff game at Lambeau with his dancing with negative yards rushing one afternoon…he would have better suited with a compliment as will CJ Spiller, who I have really big hopes for.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lions had no idea how to win when Sanders wasn’t at his best. Why exactly was that his fault?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Detroit's Oline was the problem

they were horrible…

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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m stating that I always thought that was cliche. hard to prove or disprove 15 years later…I was never a Barry fan so maybe I’m biased.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im biased too being a Sanders fan...

but I remember seeing him dance in the backfield because as soon as he had the ball, a defender was in his face. He was a tough guy to block for because he didnt take normal angles or make normal cuts that most humans just aren’t capable of doing.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked watching him play too. I just always believed Thurman, Emmitt Smith, and later Terrell Davis and Marshall Faulk were better running backs. It bothered me that Sanders was made of teflon and all of his shortcomings seemed to have an excuse attached. I know Lomas Brown was an excellent tackle that Sanders enjoyed for many years. Much of Barry’s dodging was his own running style. It worked a lot of the time. When it didn’t, I think he deserved some of the blame as well.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Lions lost because they couldn’t field a better defense and had no QB or any other talent other than Barry. To say that the Lions lost because of Barry is just wrong

I'm not sure we have the tools or the talent....

by J2 on Aug 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt there’d still be a team in Detroit without Barry Sanders.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Wow. Somebody wore #20 in their rec league basketball games.

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barry Sanders could beat up Chuck Norris.

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by Undee on Aug 20, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

: )

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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting little jab there, PR. Actually, i’d have been riding the pine in rec basketball, if I played. I’m terrible at the sport, and i’d have worn 34.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

i wore 34 too (and still do when I play old people sports like softball and indoor soccer).

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by Port Royal on Aug 20, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real men wear #27 in respect for Reggie Corner, the greatest in the game!

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by UZ on Aug 21, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

  1. will always be reserved for Clifford hicks to me.

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by Port Royal on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little disappointed

Brian, First off I have much respect for what you guys do here on the Rumblings. I have read all of you guys articles religously this offseason. I’ve even managed to get through some of the really negative ones. I’m even okay with some of the negative articles you right, because its coming from another Bills fans. I don’t mind the criticism because there hasnt been much to cheer about recently.

But during the final seconds of the game when it was apparent that we had won, i turned to my wife and said "i can’t wait to read the blogs tomorrow, i’m sure they’re going to be a lot positive of things being said about the game, and Spiller’s fantastic run. So as you can imagine, as I read the heading of your article and your post , I was really disappointed. I understand the kid isn’t perfect, no one is. But please let me enjoy this victory and this performance. After being bombared with nothing but negativity this offseason, i was hoping for some relief after this game.

Yes, i will acknowledge that the article wasn’t entirely negative but i expected a break. I personally think you can do this same analysis for every NFL Player and it isn’t fair.

We have a potennially really good young back, we won our 1st pre-season game, our starting offense scored there 1st TD in the preseason in 2yrs, and our DB intercepted a pass for a TD from a “TOP” QB. Please let me enjoy this for a week.

by doctork44 on Aug 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I sincerely hope that you have the strength of mind and character to not let anything you read ruin your enjoyment of the performance. My job is to write as objectively as possible. I’m thrilled beyond belief that C.J. Spiller is a Buffalo Bill, but I felt compelled to mention this given that everyone is gushing about him today. No, he’s not perfect – but hot damn, is he fun to watch.

I’m not here to gush when they play well, and I’m not here to rip everyone in the organization when they play poorly.

by Brian Galliford on Aug 20, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually found a lot of the articles on here, through the offseason, increasesed my excitement and anticipation of the regular season. Especially after such a dreadful ending to last year.

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by Superduff on Aug 20, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brian is just being honest

I mean lets face it everytime spiller gets the ball it wont be a 31 yard td run. Brian thanks for being honest, and I think everyone is thrilled about Spiller in Buffalo. I hope he produces week 1 and makes the dolphins look horrible, it would be a great start to the season.

A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it

by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I for one...

Would be more than happy to whitness a Spiller fish fry on the 12th

by Hayze on Aug 20, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brian is nothing if not centered, which, in the land of sports blogs, is a virtue.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 20, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be far less revered if he came across as an OMGLOLCATZ fanboy in his articles.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brian is basically just reminding us that Spiller is a rookie at the very start of his NFL career and will likely look like a rookie at times this year. What’s wrong with that? It’s certainly true, and it will help people to keep their expectations for Spiller reasonable.

by Macktruck on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

new favorite quote

cj spiller post game press conference, completely straight face, no humor at all:

“if you’re going full speed and make a hard cut up under him, it’s hard for him to stop and make a tackle. if they do, there is probably a good chance they are going to blow a knee out or something.”

this dude does not mess around.

3 minutes into this clip: http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/#?id=0181f37e-eeba-4cae-a437-3e2015f36e61

by Squirmin' Thurman on Aug 20, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

That quote is classic!

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by StroudFanClub on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to Buffalo

Its week 4 vs. the Jets Bills are down by six and its the fourth. The Defense has been pounding Buffalo all day. Spiller jukes a defender in the backfield (Jason Taylor), hits the hole hard jukes Calvin Pace or Bart Scott, and is off he has one man to beat Revis…makes Revis look foolish with his nice head juke, takes it 46 yards for the TD and its all tied up. Runs back to the side lines and after the game Bills win by 1 and in the interview he says one thing a shout out to rex ryan “Welcome to Buffalo”….Its a nice dream isnt it

Yes I know Spiller is not like that either but someone needs to shut Rex up

A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it

by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Along with fanposts and fanshots, i guess we need a fanfiction section on this site now. :)

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could only imagine the fan ideas we could come up with. I hate the Jets so strongly I would love to see someone shut rex up

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Handing him losses would be a good place to start.

"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

or a ‘bring delusional bills fans back to earth’ section.

like, its week 4 vs. the Jets bill are down by 16 in the fourth because the offense has only gained 9 positive yards against the jets defense.

by quantumuprising on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember the Jets have Sanchez

5 picks I believe last year vs. the “Savior” haha, if he does it again we dont need an offense

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by BillsStampede34 on Aug 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the Jets have forgotten that game last year.
We’ll remind them of it when we play them this year.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 20, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the honesty

And trust me I appreciate it. But we get dogged on every media outlet, and lets face it they all are being brutally honest about their opinions of the Bills. We get no respect (in my Rodney Dangerfield voice).

Brian, this is how I took the article. Here is my analogy

You have someone has been overweight there whole life and been teased and critiicized there whole life about being overweight. So they finally lost weight and go from 450lbs to 300lbs. So they lost 150lbs. And thats such a great accomplishment, and they’re feeling really good about themselves as they should. The next day someone tells them, yea its great you lost weight but guess what your still fat. Yea thats being honest, but damn now is not a great time to be honest. We’ve been getting drilled this whole offseason, in fact I use to think that it’s a conspiracy. I can’t remember reading or hearing anything positive about the Bills, and i’m not even sure we actually deserved it. But here was an opportunity to say, guess what NFL (Steelers) yea we still play football here in Buffalo and we are serious and we going to kick some @ss this yr (A la Rex Ryan). Instead, we said yea we played well but its feast or famine.

Like I said previously, i have much respect for you guys, so i guess we can just respectfully disagree.

by doctork44 on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

The Bills have so very much to prove to so many outlets before they can be taken seriously. I can’t sign up for them being anything but bottom-dwellers until they show that’s not who they are any longer.

"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Left, not the Right

It’s worth noting from the chart Brian provides that Spiller got most of his mileage last night off the left side of the o-line. Yes, the TD run was technically up the middle, but what really happened on that play is that Bell and Levitre moved to the right in tandem and sealed off the outside, allowing Spiller to dash by them to their left. I suspect we are going to see this a lot as the season progresses, until and unless Cornell Green starts being more effective on the right side.

It was also amusing watching Andy Levitre peel off from his sealing block and try to catch up with Spiller in order to pull for him. As Levitre learned, once Spiller is by you there is no way you are ever going to get ahead of him again. It’s like trying to outrun a bullet.

by Macktruck on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

negativity reflects bias not objectivity

been reading comments and articles on this mb for months now.

as i posted last night during the game, and posted a day before the
game, the negativity towards, edwards, the o line, chan, buddy nix,
the talent on the team, the odds of this team not being a joke, have
all been heavily loaded with no sense of …………….balance……

this team has never lacked talent, they have lacked coaching and a
gm with serious pro experience for yrs now….

but it seemed quite obvious to me that nix and chan had a plan, and
i could tell from just the first drive in washington that this offense was
going to be better than anything we have seen in a long while….

why was that? formations, play calling, and a QB well trained.

forget edwards, i was impressed with brohm’s release strategy.

chan is training these guys well….

a little luck in the injury department and as i said weeks ago, no
worse than 8-8….

defense will jell…..there is lots of talent…..

i also believe that there is a team full of readiness to buy into
the chan program….

and chan looks and sounds better than i could ever have imagined.

the guy knows what he is doing……

my greatest concern: special teams…..bills were as good as they
were with a horrible offense and run defense because of special
teams…..

need to get that act together asap

by simonpure on Aug 20, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

ST could cost us some games if they don’t jell soon. Go Bills!

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by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree we have talent, the issue is the depth of talent

We have a number of players who could and would start on other teams, but our backup situation is definetly less than ideal. I just hope our key guys stay healthy all season…

abayarde- "I SAY this get ready cause the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"

by WABillsfan on Aug 20, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

C.J./O.J.

In the first couple of years as a Bill, O.J. Simpson would dance around at the line and often get caught for unnecessary losses, but would have flashes of brilliance you knew were there. You knew he had the ability to break off an 80-yarder, so each time he got the ball you held your breath. Eventually, he learned to run more north-south and he got better linemen and coaching (the “Electric Company” and Lou Saban, respectively.) and went on to be one of the best NFL runners of all time. Hopefully, we’ll see the same output from CJ. and, more importantly, a much better Buffalo Bills team.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Said

Nice comparison. Brings back memorys.

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by buffalobacker on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

cj could do it sooner than ‘the first couple years’ if the o-line was just man up and create holes that cj could drive a white bronco through.

too soon?

by quantumuprising on Aug 20, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, that’s a throwback bronco now.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 20, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there

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by UZ on Aug 21, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone look at the highlights

and at the run for a TD by addi and tell me if you see the diving chop block that springs hiim lose at the end. Who ever it is just takes our player out at the feet.

Is that legal?

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Aug 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

they also called some bogus holding and missed a few pass interference calls (steve johnson play I’m thinking). but what are you going to do? preseason for the refs too, ya know.

by dav630 on Aug 20, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the screen play that got blown up by Whitner...

the Colts WR (Collie I think) was blocking the Bills CB (McKelvin, but not sure) before the ball was thrown…the CB had a shot to intercept if he wasnt being blocked. The hold on Howard was a bad call too.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo Rumblings Man Crush

Do I sense the official BR man crush shifting from Jairus Byrd to a new target???

by ra001m on Aug 20, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

positives/negatives

I could be wrong but I think every back in the league gets stopped behind the line every now and again…

Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.

by thekotton on Aug 20, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

My Concern

I’m not worried about Spiller. I’m worried that he’ll want out of Buffalo in 2 years.

Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.

by thekotton on Aug 20, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Taking the bad with the breathtaking?

I can definitely deal with that. Especially when the breath taking means scoring more and knowing that he’ll only get better in the future.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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