Buffalo Bills 2000s Worst-Decade Team - Worst Coaching Move Selection
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 24, 2010 8:46 PM EDT
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PrintAbout a three months ago MattRichWarren presented us with his Buffalo Bills 2000s All-Decade Team series. And for about a month we voted on a series of poles to determine who was worthy of being on that team. But more often than not we also ended up complaining over the limited sometimes horrible talent that we had to pick from for any given position. So it was about at the TE position that I thought "hey why don't we also vote on the worst players that played for this team over the last decade?" And so here we are.
Now just like MattRichWarren's series I have a few criteria for players to be eligible for this team. They had to have played in at least a full season's worth of games in this decade to be eligible. Starting is not requirement, but you do have to have played significant amounts of snaps in those games. That means that, for example, the Bills 3rd receiver might make the list, but a 4th or 5th stringer wont be considered. That means that we wont end up voting for 7th rounders that ended up playing 2 snaps. These are going to be real players that played real roles on this team over the last ten years. And just because a player ended up on the All-Decade team does not mean that you can't also be on the worst-decade team.
Ok we've covered all the players, and the head coach, and before I got on to worst player and the conclusion of this series i thoufght that maybe we could have a little bit more fun with it and maybe even include you guys (the wonderfull readers and bloggers at the Rumblings) a chance to throw in your own imput. So before I wrap this up I'm going to include 5 extra articles: Worst Coaching Move, Worst Head Office Move, Worst Free Agent signing, Worst Draft Class and Worst Draft Pick. All of these will include my top 4 picks for each of them as well as the reader's option where you guys get to choose one if you don't like what I think.
So first up: Worst Coaching Move. This one will pertain to any move that can be squarely put on the shoulders of the team's head coach. So here we go...
Wade Phillips: Playing Rob Johnson more than Doug Flutie (2000)
In my honest opinion not playing Flutie against the Titans in 1999 was Wade biggest mistake of his head coaching career as the Bills Head Coach. Why is that relevant for this decade though? Because he continued the trend of "looking to the future" by playing Robo Sack way more than Flutie in 2000. In my honest opinion Flutie was by far the better quarter back of the two, made more plays and gave the team more opportunities to win than Johnson ever could. Yet Phillips persistently kept putting Johnson in as the starter until it was clear that the team would not make the playoffs. Flutie (a Pro-Bowler in 1998) only started 5 games in 2000, and played in 11 total games, releaving an incredibly ineffective Johnson. By choosing to go with Johnson over Flutie, Phillips gets the first spot on this list.
Gregg Williams: Moving the team from the 3-4 to the 4-3
The NFL is a copycat league, but teams only seem to copycat champions, and in turn never become champions themselves. I am of the strong belief that it is only teams the develop and persue strongly their own systems that become champions in this league. The Bills had been a 3-4 team for 22 seasons, having helped pioneer the system in the NFL and sticking with it even though it was unpopular. The Bills had a system that worked in their 3-4. Yet one of the first moves that Williams did when taking over the team in 2001 was to follow the treandy thing and switch to the 4-3. Champions don't follow. Period.
Dick Jauron: Moving from a strong 4-3 to the Cover 2 system
Now even though I was not a fan of switching to the 4-3, I have to admit that the Bills orginisation did a good job of developing a good, powerfull and even scary 4-3 system. We had big lineman, we had big, but fast linebakers, and a hard hitting secondary. So what does Jauron do when he's hired? Switches from a very effective 4-3 that had ranked in the top 5 in 2 of the 3 previous years, to a 4-3 Cover 2 system that puts emphasis on speedy, small players that try to get to the ball as fast as possible and try to disrupt the pass by getting to the QB before he could make a proper read. The problem? The Bills didn't have any players that fit that scheme. It forced the team to get rid of some very talented DT's and LB's to try to get where Jauron wanted in a Cover 2 system. We never got there because in the 4 years of Jauron being HC, we never truly got the players necessary to do it.
Dick Jauron: Bringing back the No Huddle Offense
Offense struggling? QB's nerves are shot? Just signed a temperamental Wide Receiver? Have an incredibly young and inexperienced Offensive line? What do you do? You bring in the No Huddle of course! But not only that, you bring it in while firing your offensive coordinator 1 week before the regular season and dull down the offensive playbook to a simplistic Pop Warner offense that a typical high school team would run. Brilliant!
Well there you have it, what I think are the 4 biggest bone head moves that the Bills' Head Coaches have done in this past decade. But please, don't feel restricted to voting for what I think, if you have a different opinion, voice it! I'd love to hear from you guys in this one!
Previous instalments: QB, RB, FB, WR1, WR2, TE, OT1, OT2, OG1, OG2, C, STs, DT1, DT2, DE1, DE2, OLB1, OLB2, MLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS, Returner, HC
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I’d like to see this one stick around for a bit. Mainly because I think that you guys will put up a lot of the “other” option, and I would like for lots of other readers to see that too. I can’t wait to read what you guys have come up with!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 24, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
It forced the team to get rid of some very talented DT’s and LB’s to try to get where Jauron wanted in a Cover 2 system.
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i think it’s interesting that we had a strong 3-4, then switched to the 4-3 (which was terrible, but got good quick), then switched to the Tampa 2 (which was terrible, but got good quick). i mean, we weren’t dominant, but our defense has been the only thing to write home about in the last decade or so.
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I hate all of them for being stupid moves......
But, as I have said before in earlier posts, putting Sack Johnson in front of Flutie was a disgrace. Dougie could walk into this town today and get a free meal, drinks, and 100 people surrounding him and asking him to tell stories.
He was by far the better option at the time. And we got him for free. UFA.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 24, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
of course, being very charismatic, a philanthropist, and an exciting player to watch sometimes has helped his rep, too. he wasn’t THAT good, we’re just remembering his better moments over johnson’s better moments.
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But...
…he won games. I don’t know how, but he won gamesl. And the Music City Miracle may not have happened if we were ahead by more in 99…argh!
Exactly. He won games.
I’ll take a QB with crappy stats that wins games ahead of a pro-bowler that can’t get you to the playoffs any day!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Flutie was a winner
and if anybody thinks that the outcome of that game couldn’t have been different with him in there is deluding themselves.
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by poz on Aug 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I couldnt voted for Robo vs Flutie simply because the true damage in that debacle had already been done in the previous decade – the clown show that was 2000 was simply the aftermath. Wade had already crushed the fans by not playing our guy in the playoffs and had ruined the locker room by creating a senseless QB controversy that didn’t need to happen. Officially, the destruction of the Bills as a real team for the next decade happened in 1999 with the Robo decision over Flutie against the Titans. Why? That decision resulted in Wade or whoever wanting to redeem their decision in 2000 by playing Robo, which in turn cost Wade his job, which in turn led to the removal of the proud 3-4 defense in 2001. In a span of two years the playoff Bills were no more and unrecognizable.
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Very fair.
And a great explanation for your train of though. but what did you vote for? ;-)
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 24, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted for
the 3-4 switch to the 4-3 even though like you said it was a strong defense eventually. Only because we had the right idea for the place of the 3-4 in this league that other teams started figuring out by the 2000s. If we had kept it we would have had a distinct advantage in that we would have been well versed in the 3-4 defense and its intricacies and would have had access to players in drafts who fit the scheme when no one else but the Steelers were competing with us for their services. It was a serious blunder.
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Crap
Now I’m depressed Poz – your comment is spot on and – awww man now I’m depressed – we had a good thing and systematically tore it down piece by piece due to mass stupidity.
Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going to walk across the highway blindfolded …….
3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !
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That kind of sums up being a Bills fan doesn’t it.
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I havetoo be honest with you
Nothing to me, was as god awful as switching to the bend but don’t break cover 2. Replacing guys like Fat Pat with Larry freaking Triplett. So that was my vote.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I was tempted to vote other: Mularkey and his yo-yo QB debacle. At least Phillips knew which guy he wanted to be the starting QB even if it was a stupid choice. However, I had to go with Jauron and his Tampa 2 defense. He turned a so-so defense into a league laughingstock and the Bills are still trying to undo the damage.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
That’s a good one. Mularkey did his best to ruin the confidence of every QB on the roster. That’s a tough feat.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 25, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Even Ross Tucker...
..said how much he preferred Bledsoe to JP. I can’t imagine anyone in that lockerroom was happy to start 2005 with JP instead of Drew. This should be the example to everyone who wants to start Brohm simply because we don’t know what he’s capable of doing yet – just remember JP over Drew!
I voted the No Huddle part duhhhhhhh
Unproven QB, wrong Oline personnel, firing OC a week before the season, no pass catching TE (Hello….K in K-gun) defense that was already prone to wearing down because it can’t get off the field. I can’t believe he thought it had any chance of working.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It can’t be the switch to the 4-3 since that defense was, to act like Brian: Off. The. Chain.
If I’m going simply by coaching move… it’s probably the switch to the Cover 2.
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by MattRichWarren on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, i tend to agree with that. A lot of our key 3-4 guys were getting pretty old at that time. That D in ’99 was pretty amazing though.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 25, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as the switch to the 4-3 under Gregggggg Williams, that’s the defense he new, and it was more of a Bears 46 defense he was running. He didn’t switch to it because it was “trendy”, he dwitched because that was really something he perfected with the Titans. The “trendy” defense at the time was the Tampa 2.
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didnt Dick Jauron
always run a Tampa whereever he was
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I think so. It’s basically the simplest approach to a (sometimes) effective defense, and it definitely would appeal to a former defensive back. The problem is, by the time he rolled in here with it, the league knew how to beat it. Also, even if the league hadn’t completely caught up yet, Bill Belichick had. The key to beating the Tampa 2 is to slant and screen it to death.
If Jauron had some sort of twist on the cover 2, it may have worked. However, the defense we rolled out was only made interesting by the dozens of different personnel groupings caused by one injury after another.
I’m really glad training camp is for real now, as opposed to the Jauron spa days.
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For me it's the cover-2.
I still think Jauron knew (sensed) he was going to be canned, and might not have put the same attention to detail he may have in the past.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 24, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
I meant, to say no-huddle…not cover-2. Though I should have voted other and went with dumping Jason Peters, then moving Langston Walker to LT, then cutting him after the failed experiment. Wouldn’t Langston Walker still look better on than Cornell Green?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 24, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumping Jason Peters should rank in front office moves, not coaching moves… and it will be!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Memory fail, success! Though Jauron had a house on Morningwood Lane all planned out for Langston Walker.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 25, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Jauron was weak
Moving away from a D that was working just to do something he preferred and fit the type of player he was a bad move. Then in a last ditch effort he switches to a no huddle offense and makes horrible personnel decisions.
The Dick Jauron era was detrimental to this organization and the decisions made will linger for a few years to come.
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No Huddle
The FLutie Johnson thing does seems more from the previous decade. The change in defenses seems, even in retrospect, to have had a possibility of success. Usually our defense was modeled after who had just won the superbowl (like this year’s defense). But going no huddle with a young O-line and QB just seems really dumb and desperate. A complete gimmick that if it had any possibility of success other teams would have tried it long ago. The cover 2 and 4-3 are not really just a gimmick like the no huddle was for last year’s Bills.
(it takes a unique and talented bunch to run it)
i voted other
i wish there was a lasy 3 years option in there for every dumb thing dj did
every year i get excited for two things madden and the bills season and im always disappointed by madden i love my bills and i will always love them even if they never win a superbowl who cares we have 2 AFL championships the cowgirls have 0 GOOOOOOOOOOOOO BILLS
Again, not a coach move but a head office move.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
it would probaly be classifed as both as they were going to a lighter faster dt for adams and williams
i have a few suggestions for worst office move
1 the jason peters trade and passing on a replacement in the draft
2 letting just about every great cornerback leave via free agency
3 hiring dick juaron as are coach of the future
4 overpaying to trade back in to the first round not once but twice and having said 1st rounders bust out
5 letting dick juaron coach longer than 1 game
6 not hiring me as gm to fix this team
every year i get excited for two things madden and the bills season and im always disappointed by madden i love my bills and i will always love them even if they never win a superbowl who cares we have 2 AFL championships the cowgirls have 0 GOOOOOOOOOOOOO BILLS
A few good in there, but I already have a few releases, trade and hires in mind for this one. Although you did hit on a couple. Which ones? You’ll just have to wait and see. ;-)
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 25, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
has to be number 6 by a long shot
every year i get excited for two things madden and the bills season and im always disappointed by madden i love my bills and i will always love them even if they never win a superbowl who cares we have 2 AFL championships the cowgirls have 0 GOOOOOOOOOOOOO BILLS
LOL sure if you look at it that way. But for the sake of argument I’m only going to include moves that were actually made as opposed to moves that weren’t.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 25, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Along with Sam Adams, Lawyer Milloy, Troy Vincent and James Posey. However Jauron did one thing right and that was replacing one Mike Williams with Jason Peters
by Brennan McCoy on Aug 25, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
The Bill-Titans game was January 8, 2000. Technically, it could count if you wanted to include it.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 25, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions
I voted other.
Hiring Dick Jauron, was the worst coaching move in the past decade, he is an exceptional DB coach, and adequate DC, A horrible HC, this guy knows nothing about offense and is not qualified to hire offensive coaches, maybe Andy Reid can help him learn something about O so if he ever gets another chance to HC again, he will at least be able to recognize what a good OC looks like.
I can feel your pain on the Johnson over Flutie Johnson against the Titans.
IThere is no way this was the worst. Robo actually got us a lead with less than a minute left. Flutie (As much as I like him) had been figured out, teams were putting the gap shoots into his passing lanes and Wade couldn’t get his offensive coaches to adjust.
It was lack of prepertion by special teams we lost that game, not that Robo was started over Flutie.
Robo walked off the field with a win, until special teams blew it.
Flutie did not have a good year that year, we won games on defense, not a scalding offense, Flutie saw a huge drop off inperformance that regular season. Flutie not starting is NOT the reason we lost to the Titans.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 AM EDT reply actions
Fine points… except hiring Jauron would be a front office move wouldn’t it?
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 25, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions
well played sir.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Robot could have milked the 16 seconds the return took off the clock but didn’t…so he shares the blame for the loss. People forget that defenses had figured Flutie out by that time.
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by Ron From NM on Aug 25, 2010 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Flutie had a 10-5 record that year and a 4-1 record the following year. I wish defenses had our current qb’s that figured out.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 25, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
boom! well said.
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Johnson over Flutie… Still to this day I do not understand it. F’in Wade Phillips…
and to think that we traded a first rounder, that ended up as Fred Taylor, how is that not a run away vote?!
Where else would you rather be?
Again, the trade itself is a front office move. Remember, the Bills weren’t entirely sure what they had in Flutie; he hadn’t played in the NFL for 9 years, and wasn’t terribly impressive in 1989. At the time, Warren Moon was the only QB that had successfully made the transition from the CFL to the NFL. Well, Joe Thiesmann did, but it was four years before he was a starting QB in the NFL.
Oh, and the trade also wouldn’t be in the 2000s decade.
Well yes the trade sucked… but Im still more bitter over the fact Johnson started that game over Flutie… he had no business starting that game.
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by bflo on Aug 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the Bills weren’t entirely sure what they had in Flutie
He won 11 games? that year… It was Phillips man crush on his bandana boyfriend Rob Johnson.
Where else would you rather be?
by bflo on Aug 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was Phillips man crush on his bandana boyfriend Rob Johnson.
lol’d to the floor rec’d
every year i get excited for two things madden and the bills season and im always disappointed by madden i love my bills and i will always love them even if they never win a superbowl who cares we have 2 AFL championships the cowgirls have 0 GOOOOOOOOOOOOO BILLS
I can’t vote for the no-huddle. If you think back to the first three games of the season last year – the Bills’ offense took it to the Pats. The no-huddle was not responsible for the dropped balls by all the WRs. And the Bills beat the Bucs, then stayed with the eventual Superbowl champ Saints. But by that time, the massive amounts of injuries had already begun. I don’t think the no-huddle was the problem last year – it was the massive amount of injuries that really led to offensive collapse.
Guess I gotta go with Johnson over Flutie.
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4:3 move from 3:4
This was why the Bills decided to sign Eric Moulds and get rid of Ted Washington and Pat Williams – Moulds is out of the league and Williams would have been a force at NT for the past +5 year’s – Who cares about Flutie, they would have never built a championship team with him at QB. Although, I do give him credit for the “one” good season that he had – Plus he was better than surf boy Rob.
Jauron
It has to be Jauron’s promoting Turk Schonert to offensive coordinator without even interviewing anybody else. Given Schonert’s resume as a QB coach (all of the QBs he coached in a decade ion the NFL regressed under him- look it up if you don’t believe me) as well as Buffalo historically inept offense in 2007, this act of blind faith was wildly absurd. 2008 was a make or break year for the Buffalo franchise and Jauron could not afford to screw that hire up…boy, did he screw it up and the hubris of not even talking to anybody outside of Buffalo makes it unforgivable.
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As much as I want to slam DJ, I can't.........
As I voted Johnson over Flutie. Things were rolling and one moved starts this freaking losing streak we’ve had to tolerate as loyal Bills fans. Besides, I never hated DJ, nice guy. Wade “never seen a salad bar” Phillips on the other hand, I hate!
I'll stop whining, when I stop caring!
What about that stupid playaction call that lost us the game vs the jets in ’08?
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Aug 25, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed that it was a VERy dumb call.
But that was 1 call that effected 1 game. All the other options effect a whole season or even multiple seasons. ANd in my mind a season blown trumps a game blown.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Despite the fact that it wasn’t really a part of that whole “decade of fail” that we think of as the 2000’s, I had to go with Wade’s QB decision.
Maybe it’s because I like Flutie so much, dunno.
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disagree
If he starts Flutie in that game, maybe they win, and maybe they keep Wade and he continues to start Flutie, allowing johnson to progress. Allowing for the team to continulayy be built. Of all the coaching decisions on that list, starting Johnson over Flutie had the farthest reaching effect. If Flutie starts and wins, it could be a completely different 2000’s than what we saw.
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants fan from Upstate NY here
I freely admit to not following the Bills as much, although I have been to two training camps at Fisher, but my understanding was that Ralph Wilson was the driving force behind the Johnson over Flutie move, and Wade caved in (he must have a thing for being under domineering owners). Am I wrong here?
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Play in early 2003
Gregg Williams at the helm. Buffalo is 2-0 after crushing NE and Jax. In Miami, on Monday night. Bandwagon is full for the Bills.
We’re driving in the first half, inside the 10. The offense calls for a halfback pass, which Travis Henry underthrows (Josh Reed was wide open) in the back of the endzone.
I felt like this play undermined everything – didn’t trust Bledsoe or the running game. We lost that game and proceeded to fall to pieces that year. I feel like the offense calling for a halfback pass instead of trusting the personnel to come through was a mistake and derailed a promising start to the season.
Given the Saints superbowl victory argue that Greg Williams knows how to operate a solid 4-3 defense, and the Bills defense under Williams was even better. So in that respect there’s no way G. Williams decision was the worst; it didn’t have any negetive impact on our success beyond forgoing our 3-4 heritage. It has to go to Jauron for one of his many pathetic decisions. I’m torn between the Tamp 2 and the no huddle. On one hand, the tampa 2 created a situation in which Keith Ellison won a starting job 3 years in a row. Horrific. The Tampa 2 does not work outside of Tampa Bay in the late 90’s, but Jauron somehow thinks otherwise. That said, I have to say that the Bills’ Tamp 2 switch was less Jauron’s fault than it was upper management’s. Jauron believes in the T2, he was just sticking with what he knew. Our GM at the time knew he was going to make the conversion and hired him anyway. That to me was just insane.
The worst pure coaching move therefore has to be the no huddle:
Offense struggling? QB’s nerves are shot? Just signed a temperamental Wide Receiver? Have an incredibly young and inexperienced Offensive line? What do you do? You bring in the No Huddle of course!
that right there sums up the complete void of logic Jauron displayed at the time.
Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.
I think
and bear with me, that the no-huddle offense was one of the best worst decisions ever. I mean it basically nailed the ast nail in the Jauron coffin. What if he doesn’t implement that, and the Bills limp to a 7-9 record or even 8-8? We could be looking at a Jauron filled 2010. So in effect, that decision helped get rid of Jauron, and any decision that helped get rid of the old coaching staff, was in the end, a great decision!
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Tampa 2
Indy has been rockin’ that D for several years. But they know that Peyton is going to get them leads and that other teams are going to have to pass often to catch up. Therefore, smaller, quicker lbs coverage shells are more effective. We never had an offense that could get leads, so other teams consistently overpowered our undersized D in the run game. Again, another miscalculation by Jauron to think that we could have that kind of offense. He also neglected to get a dominant speed rusher (unless Schobel qualifies, which he did for a couple of seasons). But again, Schobel never got to just tee it up and go after qbs because we always played from behind. But the defense itself can be effective. I’m anxious (sp?) to watch Perry Fewell and the Gaints this season with their great pass rush.
Indy runs a great Cover 2 because they have two of the best pass rushing DE’s in the league with a secondary that is capable of hard hits and forcing turn overs. Same reason that Tampa Bay ran the best Cover 2 ever. He had neither under Jauron.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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