Whitner: "We sort of had our own ways of doing things"

Maybe you were feeling good about the Bills when Jauron took over but many were openly derisive of the Tampa 2. Most of the holdouts were put off by the Whitner-over-Ngata debacle. By way of contrast Gailey has made some positive changes. The wisdom of drafting Spiller remains to be seen, as does the decision not to address the OT and QB positions.

the past few years.

its easier to blame the guys who are no longer here……………take some responsibility for yourself.

I don’t see it that way. When Jauron was his coach he was loyal because that’s your job. Now he can speak his mind which I think is his perogative.

And bashed Jauron prior? Certainly not when Dick was here though, right? Because then one could say he’s breaking ranks and should be fined or released or whatever. Also I would imagine Donte brought this up with his former coaches, just not in public until now, which really isn’t a big deal if you ask me (and I realize you didn’t!)

Big man Whitner coming out months later to bash Jauron……..

Donte called it right.

I complained about the predictability for years, especially on the offense. It was so frustrating to watch. at least 20 times a game I would say its gonna be a run, or it’s gonna be a pass and be right on every one. There were times I would think perfect time for some play action after they busted of 3 or 4 decent runs, but i bet they set up in shotgun and pass it, sure enough, it was so predictable under Jauron on offense, it was laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic that a NFL team could have such shoddy offensive strategy. I can even beleive Schonert about the pop warner offense comment after he got canned,

He was just saying what we all saw for the past years and did it in a non confrontational way. It must have been tough to be on a team that was not at all feared by teams on the league.

The best analogy I can make is that it’s like when you’ve recently broken up with your girlfriend and have found someone new. Sometimes, in order to properly convey how happy you are with your new gf, you will give an example of how much better she is than your previous one.

For example, “I love that Amy doesn’t text me all the time when I’m out with the boys. Leela used to do that and it drove me nuts.”

Of course you wouldn’t talk openly about how much that aspect of Leela drove you nuts while you were still with her, because she might hear and you’d end up in the doghouse.

And had Whitner done this while Jauron was still in town? You’d have been perfectly OK with it then? Saying something to someone’s face is no better than saying it where they can still hear it after they’ve left.

…then recently fired offensive coordinator Turk Schonert.

Well sorta. They never changed anything, in-game. But a week before the season started was a different story altogether.

Makes you wonder why Jauron was looking at all that damn tape!!

Funny story, I was playing NFL Head Coach for PC and Whitner wound up being picked 13th overall and made the pro-bowl twice in his first three years, made my head hurt.

September 12th…. He is on his way. Godzilla is coming.

We were still no good, but at least they kept it closer with their adjustments.

Do you mean like last year’s season opener, where he made that defensive adjustment that prevented Tom Brady from hitting his TE for a touchdown on the same exact play that the Pats had scored on in their previous possession? You mean like that adjustment, right?

Sorry, that was too easy. :)

Everyone remembers the 07 Dallas Monday Nighter were we sat back in a zone after the onside kick and allowed Romo to complete short passes to TO to get into field goal range. The cover 2 shell rarely allowed for variation. I still remember Dr. Z’s article in SI ripping the ‘gutless’ coaching from that game (similar article for the Offense after the 08 Browns Monday Nighter). DBLuv has already mentioned the Pats game last year where Brady found the hole in the Cover 2 shell, and Fewell never plugged it.

He has to maintain his big-market bias in order to keep the advertisers happy. He has nothing to lose by slamming the Bills but could lose quite a bit if he slammed a media darling franchise over the same issues.

Is he talking about Henne and Sanchez, or did the Jets and fins pick up some established QB’s this offseason and i didnt hear about it?

You know I’m starting to lose my mind. People wonder how we got to the point of the Lebron Decision in sports and all you have do is look at how in today’s NFL, draft hype in a big market is so much more important than performance that a 12 TD, 20 INT rookie can be declared an established QB.

lol, good one.

Levy always said he wanted to hire a teacher, but I think that was a miscalculation. Jauron could coach a team like the Ravens or Steelers who have established vets to control the locker room and who would appreciate a low maintenance manager. But we never had an established presence, and Jauron was the one who set the tone. Obviously, it was the wrong tone for our team. But I don’t think he was pathetic in his approach; I think more that he was in the wrong situation. He wasn’t able to ‘adjust’ his style to what we more likely needed (see how I stay with the theme of the comments).

I like Donte and could not care less what he twitters about. He was right in what he said, and so far with the new coaching staff we have seen an invigorated Donte. Should be a good season for him.

OH! And just because Donte said Chan will adjust, doesn’t mean it will be good adjustments. haha. Hopefully it will tho.

Whitner was put into the starters role as a rookie in 2006. He played well but not #8 well. He became the D captain and utilized that role extremely well. He had all the db’s over to his house to watch tape and get together for camraderie. He wanted to instill winning into the secondary and make that unit a cohesive force. And it worked! I’m not saying it was all Whitner, but it had to have helped that someone stood up and took control of the D, at least the DB’s

Its amazing how Whitner never gets credit for anything but always gets ripped for everything. I think this fanbase has needed a scapegoat and it picked the guy who chose to speak up on this team. His being chosen at 8 didnt help. I like Whitner. I doubt he’ll ever be in the elite conversation but I do think he has been solid and can be a key contributor and leader on a winning defense. The guy has a ton of experience very young – that has the makings of a wily veteran leader on a defense.

and its all due to one issue, he LOWERS his head while trying to make the play. This is a no no for a few reasons.

1- It means your not looking the hit in, meaning people will happily side step you like Addai did in the game last week, your not looking at the man, so the juke works really really well as does the good old stiff arm.

2- Your chances of injury go up astronomically when you do that as the neck is in a very vunerable position there, without the shoulder pads providing a firm surface for the helmet to rest against, or a neck roll to help it either.

3- He has a really bad habit of looking into the backfield and so bites still really hard on the play fake, for a 4ht year player, he still makes a mistake that rookies can be excused for, but a veteran needs to watch.

Finally, when Whitner decides to make proclamations like when he claimed we would make the playoffs, he needs to back it up. He had a down year health and play wise when he made that claim, and the team went 7-9 again. So…. as far me trusting him when he makes claims, I have to say my faith in them is a tad skeptical.