Five Big-Name Bills Fighting For Their Jobs
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe Buffalo Bills are in a year of transition. In changing up the front office, the coaching staff, schemes and terminology, and the atmosphere of the preseason, we've seen a radical shift in how the team's gone about doing things this summer. While we wait to see if those changes lead to better results on the field of play, we can talk about some players that have responded favorably to those changes, and some that haven't.
Relevant data such as draft status and salary often go out the window when a new regime inherits an old regime's players. In many cases, those two criteria are the exact reason a well-known player emerges on the fringe of an NFL roster after a coaching change. These five players - all relatively household names in Buffalo, but not all incumbent - are the biggest-name "on the bubble" players with final cuts looming in just over two weeks.
5. Kyle Calloway, offensive lineman: Calloway's is the only name on this list of a player brought in by GM Buddy Nix and head coach Chan Gailey. A seventh-round pick out of Iowa, Bills fans instantly fell in love with Calloway's grit and toughness, proclaiming big things for his future. A projected move to guard, however, hasn't happened, as Calloway has played mostly right tackle with the third team in camp. He has been unspectacular, outperformed by undrafted rookie Cordaro Howard, and stands a very good chance at being cut. That isn't surprising, but for a draft pick that generated so much springtime buzz, it's noteworthy nonetheless.
4. John McCargo, defensive lineman: He's been on the bubble for well over two years now - ever since the Bills tried, unsuccessfully, to trade him to Indianapolis in October of 2008. McCargo remains squarely on the bubble despite a relatively strong camp and preseason to date; he's not a great fit for the team's new 3-4 defense, and only has value as a sub-package player used in 4-3 looks. At best, he's a deep reserve, and he'll only make the team if the Bills keep seven defensive linemen. It still seems more likely that the Bills will choose to add deep depth elsewhere (like linebacker), but at least McCargo has shown signs of life.
3. Keith Ellison, linebacker: Overrated by some, under-appreciated by others, Ellison has been a de facto starter for the Bills since his rookie season in 2006. He missed 14 games in the past three seasons, including eight in 2009, but also put up respectable tackle numbers (245 in four years) in the process. That was before the team moved to the 3-4, however, and any chance Ellison had at earning a nickel linebacker role were severely dented when he missed a huge chunk of practice time and the first preseason game. Bryan Scott continues to man the nickel linebacker position, and Ellison has an uphill climb to make the back end of Buffalo's roster as a specialist.
2. Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback: Fitzpatrick is the ideal backup quarterback, not talented enough to be a full-time starter, but intelligent and enough of a gamer to get you by in the film room and when he's on the field of play. Teammates respect him. In an open competition at quarterback, however, Fitzpatrick hasn't made waves, and has done little to separate himself from third-year unknown Brian Brohm. The latter has been impressive enough where it's entirely conceivable that Fitzpatrick - signed to a three-year deal last March - doesn't get to year two of that contract.
1. James Hardy, wide receiver: No player has been a bigger disappointment this summer than Hardy, the team's second-round pick in 2008. He hasn't exactly been a disappointment on the field, but in the small amount of time he's spent there, he hasn't come close to separating himself from the competition, either. The fact that he's missed both preseason games and several weeks of practice with a foot injury doesn't help his cause, either. Many believed that Hardy would emerge as the team's No. 2 receiver, but he's much closer to updating his résumé than he is to making any on-field impact.
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Is Calloway really a “big name”? I know he’s a “big dude”!
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In Buffalo, sure. I couldn’t believe how much positive press he got from Bills fans when he was drafted.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why
He got that much love. Hasn’t done a thing so far. Some people mistake grit and toughness for an ability to play the game well. One doesn’t necessarily lead to the other.
Becasue he was one of 2 OL drafted,
When your team is desperate for OL because it was the weakest postion on the football field there has to be a level of optimism for any player drafted that plays OL, I think this is why Kyle Calloway got some positive press, i was one of the people pushing for this kid but Cordaro Howard can have his roster spot anyday in my books.
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly
PaullyPforPrez nailed it IMO. Everyone during that time was really nervous about the tackle position and as rounds went by the Bills still didn’t get any. Finally they got Wang and then Calloway.
Calloway as others stated played very well at RT in College and was projected by quite a few experts to be a pretty good prospect.
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he got love
because he was a prospect who often times looked better than his linemate Bryan Bulaga at Iowa and we got him in the 7th. No one was overlooking that he hadn’t done anything yet, none of the draft picks had. He was liked as a prospect and I still think he makes the team.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
by poz on Aug 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Subconsciously
People wanted him to be Brad Butler v.2. He’s just nowhere near as talented.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In one of the “season previews” that I watched (I believe it was NFL.coms. but I could be wrong,) Calloway’s name was brought up as being a huge pick up for the bills and they were expecting him to make an impact in the next few seasons. The reasoning was “Iowa toughness.”
Ferentz lineman have low ceilings
He coaches them so well. Look at Robert Gallery, a top 5 pick who never made it to LT and is now a non-dominant guard. No wonder teams each year try to get Ferentz – he gets lineman.
Calloway
is hardly a “household name.” Puh-leeze.
by ccthemovieman on Aug 26, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well for those of us who frequent BuffaloRumblings daily I think everyone but the waterboy is a household name. We discuss 5th string RB’s, 7th vs 8th WR, and every other position in such detail that around here I have no doubt Calloway is a household name. That’s why I love the site, as much info as I can handle.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
by mavadjdj on Aug 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well yes,
but I was more refereing to the comment above that said it, like it was in teh story or something.
Where else would you rather be?
Rec
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanx for the Rec my fellow canuck!
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
:-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And the rec stays as long as your not a leafs fan ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummm….damn…you see… I have this desire to cheer for perennial cellar dwellers and the Leafs fit the bill perfectly. Hopefully the Bills don’t this year!
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
WellI guess that I can’t really hold it against you since your from Tdot. But hey, at least my team made it to the conference finals this year! ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when that happened about 10 years ago, lmao or else I’d just cry.
Well we tried the no offense huddle, why not give the no huddle offense a go?!!
You know what, i was actually rooting for the Leafs when they had the great run with all the guys being called up from St-John’s. You might have even won the cup if you had kept on playing them instead of the regular guys when they came back from injury. Those AHL guys played with more passion in the playoffs than I’ve seen from any team since.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Your my new favorite poster ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hardy
Well he’s back from injury right? Maybe he’s all better now and is ready to live up to expectations. Why was injury called “unknow” by the way?
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
even if he is all better
hes had so little time to impress the new regime that he probably has to have a great showing in this game against the Bengals to even have a chance of making the team.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
to follow up
who are we going to let him leapfrog? A lot of our young receivers have shown a good amount of potential – Jackson, Roosevelt, Nelson, all have looked good
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
I think that’s the biggest problem. Hardy has been injured and while he was away the guys that were initially behind him on the depth charts (albeit from a strict point that they were lowly undrafted or off-the-street free agents) have not only shown better things, but have actually been pretty impressive in their own right. The problem is that now, this regime didn’t draft him, or even sign him, so they have no loyalty to the player, or interest in his development process panning out. This team needs talent now at these positions and Hardy is not even useful as a returner or a special teamer.
Fear the Grier!!!!
Half expected to see Chris Kelsay on this list.
But then I reembered how little depth we have at OLB. Starter or not Kelsay will be on this team.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Hardy better have saved up his money
Because he will probably be in the unemployment line very soon
Is this your homework, Larry?
by Schooled You on Aug 26, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t even think that he’d make it into the CFL. UFL is probably his only shot.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
the receiver needy Seahawks
would probably take a flier on him
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
The Seahawks aren’t receiver needy, they’re talented receiver needy. Hardy wouldn’t change that much.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
regardless
He will get a flier from some team out there. Usually takes two teams trying you out before you his the unemployment line.
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To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
In all fairness I havent attended any training camp workouts or even watched either of the preseason games to this point but from what I have been reading here I would say its probably a safe bet that Fitzy and Hardy would have to put up some astronomical numbers and have their counterparts either get severely injured or fall off the planet in order for them to keep their jobs.
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
If Hardy ends up being cut this year, I'll be in need of an explanation.
I need to know:
- What they saw in him that got him drafted in the second round. What were the expectations for this player?
- Why exactly was he cut? Injuries? Play on the field?
- Why has he not reached the expectations that he was drafted with? Who failed here? Did Hardy not work hard enough? Is he just not a quick learner? Did he have trouble with the playbook? Did the coaching staff fail him? Injuries? Did he reach his potential, but other players were simply better?
- What have we learned from this? How do we not repeat this mistake in the future?
I hope a detailed review of the situation is done here…we cannot keep wasting our most valuable resourse (draft picks) and expect to win.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Aug 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Aside from possibly the last question, I think you can answer all of those on your own.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s be honest. Our most valuable resource is chicken wings. Moving forward, all players should be rated on a wings-to-production ratio.
by OMGSTUFF on Aug 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
bills front office learning from mistakes
Yea right I wish we drafted a god dammn qb from tulane I don’t care what physical attributes you saw u should know he doesn’t have the brain he’s the scarecrow of qbs, mike williams constantly knocked for work ethic through college our scouts ignored that figured he was to good to pass on ended up top 5 worst bust ever/lynch off field problems the only pick I have mentioned I agree with we had to take him but did we empathize staying out of trouble no we did not look at mcargo we drafted him strictly out of need compare all these to a pick like lee evans one of our best picks ever guy is all class and that and talent and his smarts got him a job he’s kept for years so our front office will never change despite who’s in it altho I like nix and gailey just donnt expect drafting changes
by allbillssince85 on Aug 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
we draft pretty well actually
we just dont hit on many superstars but compared to other teams we actually dont completely whiff as much. Jairus Byrd, Kyle Williams, Eric Wood, Andy Levitre, Marshawn Lynch, Paul Posluszny. Those are solid core guys. We just haven’t hit on the mega talents at positions like QB – JP Losman / Trent Edwards. If one of them had worked out we wouldn’t be ripping on our drafting and we’d be winning. Its that simple.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Good point
Especially on the QBs, which I think is the biggest crap-shoot in all of drafting.
Fear the Grier!!!!
ya
and its a pitch we’re going to have to try and swing on again next draft (most likely) and there are about 5 guys that everyone is talking about. The good thing is Buddy Nix was right about Eli and Rivers in the same draft so maybe hes got an eye for QBs
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
its funny in a way
most of what Buddy does won’t matter if he misses on a QB – it’ll just set us back again.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
good point
Buddy can hit on 90% of his draft picks but if he misses on a QB we will all be calling for a new GM.
Giggity
by Jax Bills Fan on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
which is what is so scary
We all have such high hopes for the new regime, but it will all come down to either Trent, Brohm or Brown emerging or the draft pick next year. Kind of scary. Perpetual losing is based entirely on a teams inability to find a QB. Since Flutie thats been us. Rob Johnson set us back, JP Losman set us back, Trent Edwards may or may not set us back. The one time we “should” have been in the playoffs (dang you Willie Parker) we had Drew Bledsoe, an established fringe HOFer.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
TE has set us back
regardless of whether he blossoms this year. He should have been able to get his stuff together before now. And to think Tebow was riiiiighhttt there….
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The NFL could just as easily be talking about Tim Couch for the HOF as they could Tom Brady. There was no guarantee, and honestly, Couch “should” have been the HOF QB, not Brady. Amazing how things can turn out.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Simple
We could not get the ball into the end zone. We needed a big guy who could leap high and snatch the ball away from at least two defenders. Using a second round pick to accomplish this makes it a stupid pick. The fact that he can’t even do what he was drafted for makes it even more stupid. Cut him and move on.
Hardy
Can’t we include Hardy in the Juaron bubble of ineptness? Maybe now that he’s healthy he will contribute. New and improved offensive scheme run by a competent HC, maybe Hardy will flourish. Just a thought.
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
WRs are supposed to make an impact in year 3. Hardy, however, is effectively still only at the end of his first season or start of his second. It will be a shame if he gets cut before the light goes on for him…which assumes the light will ever go on.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Aug 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree as well
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Answers, or some sort of Answers
- What they saw in him that got him drafted in the second round. What were the expectations for this player?
A Redzone threat for a team in desperate need for TD’s
Why exactly was he cut? Injuries? Play on the field?
Hes being outplayed by everyone around him, Now I havent been to camp to see this first hand but in every report I’ve read hes getting shown up.
Why has he not reached the expectations that he was drafted with? Who failed here? Did Hardy not work hard enough? Is he just not a quick learner? Did he have trouble with the playbook? Did the coaching staff fail him? Injuries? Did he reach his potential, but other players were simply better?
No Offesne, Terrible play calling, Hardy Failed himself by not being in shape and coming in as a rook an making an impact, to dat I have seen him catch 3 passes one agaist Jacksonville to win in Week one of the 08 season in the back corner of the endzone and one catch over the middle against Arizona in a blowout that same season, and one at the very end of last year very similar to the catch he made against the Cardinals. Other players have simply out performed him and he cant stay healthy
- What have we learned from this? How do we not repeat this mistake in the future?
Draft recievers with proven track records, this kid went to Indiana and wasnt even there most productive reciever he was drafted on upside and having a pro body, we should try and sign Plaxico hahahaha
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Still learning the good ol block quote!
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just put <—blockquote—> (without the hyphens) in front of the thing you’re trying to quote, and <—/blockquote—> at the end of what you’re trying to quote (again, without the hyphens).
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok!
Just put <—blockquote—> (without the hyphens) in front of the thing you’re trying to quote, and <—/blockquote—> at the end of what you’re trying to quote (again, without the hyphens).
This is how its done
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Just put <—blockquote—> (without the hyphens) in front of the thing you’re trying to quote, and <—/blockquote—> at the end of what you’re trying to quote (again, without the hyphens).
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not doing what your saying to do
Torrel Troup Will Win rookie of the year
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I got it you just highlight what you wanna blockquote and you click block quote
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahah
that was hilarious. But a good lessons for the kids out there in asking questions and never quitting until you get it right.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
that’s the only way I do it. You can click blockquote – start your statement – then click it again. I just type whatever and highlight it at the end and blockquote
I'm not sure we have the tools or the talent....
by J2 on Aug 26, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you just blockquoted your sig. That’s hard to do, man. :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I
wishicouldfigureouthowintheheckhedidthat.
by quantumuprising on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sweet!
It’s sorta beautiful in a surreal sort of way. If you’re good at BS-ing, you might be able to swing this into the next big modern art movement. Just a thought.
Hopefully we don’t break the blockquote’s
<blockquote>Uh oh…</blockquote>
"We can't injure our elbows patting ourselves on the back." --Chan Gailey
but at least McCargo has shown signs of life
Love that line.
I dont see McCargo sticking around… like you said… we need depth elsewhere.
Hardy is battling with David Nelson, IMO, for that 5th WR spot. Personally Id like to see Nelson take that spot.
And I see Fitz getting cut too…
Where else would you rather be?
Agreed
Time to cut ties with Hardy. Every single receiver we bring in out-performs him. Time to move on.
Still time to tell on Fitz with 2 games left in the preseason, but I think that Brohm proved he is the better. The only question is, will they stash Brown on the PS and keep both?
McCargo has played well, and hopefully he will find a job elsewhere because the sad fact is that he doesn’t fit and we don’t have room.
Fear the Grier!!!!
Wood
I can’t remember where I read it but I thought wood is getting some reps with the 1’s at center. Would it make sense to get Calloway some reps at RG if woods moves to center? Calloway was an excellent oline at Iowa and ive never been sold on geoff at center
Gailey says he's going to build the offense around our best talent....then get ready for the wishbone formation in 2010
by J. Mackin on Aug 26, 2010 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wood practiced there once. Calloway should be getting reps at RG regardless of where Wood plays.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Your thoughts
Brian u obviously see more practices and review more tape then most of us, I was wondering if it were up to you what would your opening day oline starters be and would u pick up any free agents?
Gailey says he's going to build the offense around our best talent....then get ready for the wishbone formation in 2010
by J. Mackin on Aug 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kyle Calloway – Who are we keeping on the roster instead of him? My first thought was get rid of Kirk Chambers but its really hard to hate on a guy who constantly steps in to multiple roles and tries to keep our o-line afloat, I think he has a bad rep in my mind because I associate him with our o-line injuries – but when you get right down to it hes a good bench guy who has done his backup job. I just can’t imagine giving up on a guy who has potential to be good run blocking RT when the starter is Jamon Meredith/Cornell Green.
John McCargo – I say his fate should rest on how he preforms this Saturday. Give him a lot of playing time. We know what Spencer can do. If McCargo shows the same stuff he did against the Redskins that cut Spencer. McCargo’s ceiling might only be as high as where Spencer is now though and Johnson has been better than we give him credit for so I get it if McCargo is gone.
Keith Ellison – I like Keith but there are teams out there that could use him more than we could and he’d get a chance at some playing time unlike here. And he deserves some PT, hes a season player at this point. The Lions LB corp is in shambles, he could probably start there.
Ryan Fitzpatrick – I love this guy. Goodbye Fitzy, you were awesome and you have serious moxie. Love the way he plays the game but there is no room for him here. He’ll catch on in St. Louis.
James Hardy – sigh…..I still think he makes the team because he does have potential but if he doesn’t….sigh……
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Any chance of trading John McCargo or Fitz for 6th or 7th round picks? Maybe Hardy to the Vikings or some other WR needy team? Fitz I can see getting picked up by someone needing a back up QB, maybe we can get something for these players, even if its something really little
Right now teams know that if another team is shopping a player for a low-round pick, he’s probably about to get cut and they can probably wait it out. I don’t think either of those guys has to clear waivers, so if the team waits and puts a good offer in, they won’t lose a draft pick unnecessarily.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
Fitzy to Arizona for Leinart
I would make this trade based on the sole fact that Leinart would sell more tickets
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
but why would the Cardinals do it?
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
sure i get the idea of dumping Leinart
but why would they trade him in for Fitz? Isnt that a downgrade? Well….I guess we said that about Trent and Fitz last year…
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Leinart for Fitzy is a downgrade for the Bills
and an upgrade for the Cards. Leinart is turrible!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhhh, what?
Who in the world buys tickets to see some crappy backup QB hold a clipboard??
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 26, 2010 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i buy tickets mostly to see the kickers warm up with the kicking nets on the sidelines.
by quantumuprising on Aug 27, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
In buffalo we call them starters K :-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Hardy
I remember the year we drafted Hardy I was very high on him as well. I projected us to take Rogers-Cromartie and then Hardy in the 2nd round so I was pretty happy I was close to that on draft day. Plain and simple we were horrible in the redzone and needed a tall physical receiver to come down with TDs and that’s what Hardy was supposed to be. Now you can’t really project injuries but if other guys are outplaying him then there’s no room left for him. I’d hate to see him go but I feel like he’s been injured so much that we really don’t know what’s there….but then again there really may be nothing there but injuries like Charles Rogers for the Lions
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Hardy's twin brother is Limas Sweed.
Both 2nd round busts and fragile.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 26, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
That’s a little better comparison with the round they were chosen
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by panekattack on Aug 26, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the chances that
We still take a look at some waiver wire WR’s after cuts?
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
I agree with Calloway, Ellison, & Fitz. They should be gone in the first round of cuts.
On Big John – I think McCargo should stay, he can play DE or DT and he is just starting to show how he can play when healthy. Depending on his performance this week, I think he is playing for the last DLineman spot against Johnson, Duncan, & Harvey. IMO McCargo is just as good as any of them and is still getting better. I like S. Johnson, but IMO his pass rushing skills have almost all but disappeared this year.
On Sticks – I dont necessarily like Hardy, but I am not ready to write him off yet either. Especially in favor of guys like N. Roosevelt (who I really want signed to our PS) and D. Jones (I also want him on the PS), who can be released and wont be picked up by other teams (I know they can contribute on STs, that fact is not lost on me). Hardy needs to play well this game, if he doesn’t, his injuries will have been his undoing, but if he flashes…we need to keep him or at least think harder about it before letting him go prematurely. I can tell I am in the minority here from the other posts, the dude has been hurt (who-knows-what happened?) and hasn’t been able to play in any games yet. Granted, he gets no leeway here, so if he screws up or doesn’t show well he’s done. He is getting an opportunity, however brief, to show that he belongs. I hope he performs above his paygrade this game, if he does not play well, I will then be ready to cut him.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Who said anything about keeping Roosevelt or Jones instead of Hardy? Why wouldn’t they cut them all and just keep five receivers? (Evans, Johnson, Parrish, Nelson, Jackson)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It does my heart good to see Nelson
as one of the mainstays….
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 26, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe we may keep 6 WRs...
with Gailey not high on any of them except Lee & Roscoe, I think he is going to try multiple players at the outside WR positions opposite Lee. So yes, I think all 5 of the WRs you named make it, but I also think that if Roosevelt, Jones or Hardy impress this week, they stay on as well. I know it all comes down to the numbers game and with Roosvelt and Jones able to play STs, they have the leg up right now. I too think Nelson should be a lock, he has impressed me.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Damnit, need to preview my comments more...
but I also think that if Roosevelt, Jones or Hardy impress this week, they stay on as well.
should have said: “one of them will stay on as well”
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
with Gailey not high on any of them except Lee & Roscoe, I think he is going to try multiple players at the outside WR positions opposite Lee.
I have no idea why Gailey would keep another player he’s not high on. That’s precisely why I think he’ll only keep five.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what is up with wang?
is he safe from being cut?
by simonpure on Aug 26, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Circumcision joke?
~K
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by Kurupt on Aug 26, 2010 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
HAHA
that’s an excellent reply
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by panekattack on Aug 26, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LMFAO!!!!
That’s a rec!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha…I really spit some Lo-carb Monster on myself when I read that…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
what is up with wang?
is he safe from being cut?
There was no way I wasn’t gonna rec this.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Why can't McCargo play DE in a 3-4?
6-2, 307 listed
Glenn Dorsey 6-1, 297
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by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 6:48 AM EDT reply actions
He could relieve Stroud @ RDE
and come in rotationally on nickel & dime packages
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by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Dorsey?
He hasn’t shown any ability to play DE in KC, why is he the comparison???
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
When compared to Tyson Jackson
G. Dorsey is all world
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'all are hating
Despite reports to the contrary from writers who have zero interest in flyover markets like KC; Glenn Dorsey is performing just fine at DE. As you guys will come to learn, DE’s in a 3-4 scheme aren’t suppose to fill the stat line. Their job is stuff & eat the run. Considering his move from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE, Dorsey has done incredibly well.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Big John is playing DE
for us, he also plays DT in the 4-3 looks. Brian was saying that while he may play a DE in the 3-4, he is not suited well for the position. He is not long enough nor quick enough. I actually think he may do just fine there, but we’ll see if he even makes the team.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick enough?
Coming out of college and the scouting combine wasn’t McCargo’s speed for his size what made him a prospect?
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by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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