Fitzpatrick Makes Solid Case For Bills' Backup QB Job
by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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Trent Edwards is having the best preseason of his career, and is a virtual lock to open the season as the starting quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. From there, Buffalo's quarterback situation is still difficult to read, as three players are fighting tooth and nail for two roster spots. The biggest question that remains unanswered is which player will emerge as Edwards' primary backup.
In the preseason opener against Washington, Ryan Fitzpatrick worked with the second team, while Brian Brohm didn't play at all. The roles were reversed last week against Indianapolis, with Fitzpatrick watching Brohm from the sidelines. Last night against Cincinnati, Fitzpatrick worked with the twos, while Brohm saw some meaningless mop-up duty at the end of the game, throwing one incomplete pass.
Assuming that Chan Gailey holds true to form, Brohm will likely get one last (long) look in this Thursday's preseason finale against Detroit. He's got some ground to make up, as the heady Fitzpatrick has quietly put up a very strong case to be Edwards' primary backup when the regular season begins. The only leg up Brohm has at this point is that he'll end the preseason with much more opportunity to prove himself.
We haven't seen anything out of Fitzpatrick that we haven't seen before this preseason. He's made some inaccurate throws, and he's made some tremendous throws. What stands out about his performance is his dependability and consistency. In two games, Fitzpatrick has completed 15 of 23 passes (65.2%, an excellent figure for a QB with accuracy issues) for 138 yards, with two scores to undrafted rookie receiver David Nelson. He's added two rushes for nine yards, but also taken one sack.
Meanwhile, in just one performance and a speck of janitorial duty, Brohm has nearly as many attempts as Fitzpatrick (22), completing 14 of them (63.6%) for 125 yards. He has no scores (a fact that extends to his entire career, preseason or regular season), but also no major mistakes aside from a sack taken and a delay of game penalty.
Fitzpatrick's 6.0 yards-per-attempt average is fairly pedestrian, but isn't any worse than Brohm's (5.68). Brohm hasn't been bad; he was efficient and made good decisions with the football against Indy. Fitzpatrick, however, has set himself apart because of his ability to extend plays with his legs; he avoided pressure on both of his touchdown passes, and had a couple of nice scrambles against Cincinnati. Fitzpatrick has obvious flaws, but he's able to make things happen on the football field - something Brohm has not yet shown the ability to do at this level. That's huge in any NFL head coach's evaluations, and even bigger with Chan Gailey.
Brohm still has the Detroit game to make his final play for the job, and a strong performance will undoubtedly tighten the race back up. Both players will likely get playing time, as Edwards and the starters aren't likely to see more than a series or two, but Brohm will likely rotate through before Fitzpatrick. If the third-year man out of Louisville can't make enough plays to unseat the sixth-year Harvard grad, his only remaining shot at cracking Buffalo's roster will be as the preferred developmental project (to rookie Levi Brown) in the eyes of Gailey and GM Buddy Nix.
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I wonder if Fitzpatrick could fetch a late round draft pick. St. Louis and Chicago have backup QB issues and Fitzpatrick has slight connections to both teams. I know Philly got a 6th for Kelly Holcomb a couple of seasons ago so it’s nlot wildly far fetched. I think Fitzpatrick is one of the best 3 QBs on the roster (in my minority opinion, probably the best), but he’s not part of any long term solution for the position…I’d try to shop him before deciding between Brohm’s upside and Fitzpatrick’s veteran presence.
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Not a bad dilemma to have
For the first time in a long time, it seems like we have three truly viable (if unspectacular) QB options going in to the season. I wouldn’t trade any of them. With our O-line, we need all the depth we can get. Only a solid pass-blocking offensive tackle that could keep Trent vertical could offset what we lose by getting rid of Fitzpatrick .
It seems to me that this is Brohm's job to win
3 games into the preseason Fitzy and Brohm are pretty even. The difference is that Fitzy has had two games with significant playing time to Brohm’s one. With a decent performance (another 60ish% completion performance with, say, 150 yards and a score or two), Brohm can surpass Fitzy statistically.
My guess is that CHIX would prefer to keep Brohm. CHIX has no ties to Fitz or Brohm so loyalty isn’t a factor. Instead, the Bills have to find a franchise QB; Brohm might be one but Fitz clearly is not. In a season of low expectations it makes a degree of sense to stick with the unknown quantity over the known one.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Brohn
I agree it seem to me that Brohn play well in the one chance he had and Fitz play ok in one of is two game he was in and we know is ceiling and we not sure we know Brohn ceiling. I will say keep Brohn.
by nycitybillsfan on Aug 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna rec is but
it is also possible that CHIX like Brown more than Fitz or Brohm. If that is the case, then it makes sense to BBP (best backup player) this year with the intention of developing Brown to challenge for the backup role next year.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
I think you are right brother. Chix has zero loyalty to Brohm. So if he does not beat out Fitzy, I think he is gone.
They drafted Levy, so he will stay (on the practice squad).
"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 29, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about Brown making it to the PS
From what I have seen of Brown, he looks good enough to be a 3rd string QB for someone. It would be hard for a team that is set at QB to ignore that big arm. The Detroit game may give us a clue. If Brown doesn’t get to play, it could very well mean the Bills don’t want to give him the exposure and will try to slip him onto the PS. If Brown plays and plays well, it could mean the end for Fitz or Brohm.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Levi is one of CHIX’s new toys so I don’t see the team risking losing him while trying to ship him to the practice squad. Didn’t Buffalo allegedly have something like a 4th round grade on Brown? Also, Nix talks all the time about stacking talented players. Fitz certainly isn’t dynamic so I don’t know that he fits based on skill set.
If someone puts up a poll it might be interesting to see how many people believe Fitz would be quickly snapped up by another team if cut by the Bills. I’d have to vote ‘no’ though he’d probably get a call from some team once a QB was lost for the season.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Brian, do you think Chan will keep all threee?
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by Montel on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why Not ?
and put Brown on practice squad
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
Keep the best 3
And right now that means Edwards, Fitz & Brohm. Levi should go to the PS, & it is possible he will be picked up, then again, maybe not. If he does get grabbed, really, what have we lost that we can’t replace from someone else’s PS or next year in the draft? I believe, like many others, that he has talent. But unless a very good trade offer is made for Fitz (and I would want more than a 7th rounder), I wouldn’t make a deal. Nonetheless, whether it is Brohm or Levi (or both) sent to the PS, there is a good chance they will be grabbed by another team. Then, at least we would have an opportunity to match an offer. Frankly, I would put both on the PS and wait to see what happens. There will be at least 5 QBs released in the next week (KC has already released one). Let’s be patient and see what happens, but we will still have options regardless of who is waived/cut.
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I agree
with keeping the best three, which Levi is not one of. I don’t think there’s much risk of losing Brown to another team at this point.
by Denver's Buffalo Fan on Aug 29, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that is what the Packers thought about Brohm
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
But he still cleared waivers...
to be signed to the PS…
Folks, it will be the final cutdown of the season…. Those who think Levi won’t clear waivers, from among all the others who will be cut along with him, unfortunately have a bloated opinion of him… Granted, if he lights it up next week, throwing for 300 and 5 TDs, someone MIGHT take that flyer and claim him… And remember… if someone does claim him, he has to go to the active roster…. They can’t sign him directly to their own PS…..
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Point was he didn't last on the GB PS even after making it onto the PS
We don’t need two second string QBs.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
We don’t need two second string QBs.
Exactly!
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brown makes the team. And I think he should. If Brohm and Fitzy are equal, then there is no reason to keep both. Everyone talks about the Oline and injuries, but Brohm only started one game last season, (and I think that was an experimental move as much as it was necessary) and the Oline should be better this year. The third QB won’t be playing much, if any at all. Right now it will be up to Brohm to show what he has against Detroit, and quite frankly, if he doesn’t light up the 2nd and 3rd string of the Lions, then he probably shouldn’t be in the NFL, and definitely not a backup QB.
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by silverstreak3k on Aug 29, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent Edwards
I just noticed that on the ESPN “Brett Favre: He’s Coming Back” SportsCenter commercial Steve Levy has a little cutout of Trent in his cubicle. Its on the left side of the screen while Levy is talking.
Each tiny crumb of good news is immediately followed with a swift kick to the nuts.
Does
anyone know where i can watch last night’s game on the internet?
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Possibly...and legally btw...
Apparently, WKBW will be streaming it during their rebroadcast…
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for the win………….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
Fitz is a better backup QB right now, but if our coaching staff took some time and worked with Brohm, I firmly believe he could become a very good QB, as he has all the tools, a tremendous QB-intelligence, great work ethic and is a solid leader from what I’ve read.
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by BillsfanfromDenmark on Aug 29, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
I really don't see enough of a difference between their skill level to care which one gets kept.
If pressed into service both guys would probably do an average job.
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Isn't this a bit premature?
Shouldn’t Brohm get a shot against the Lions? He has only been given extended time in 1 game. 0/1 is hardly a fair shake at competing. I’m sorry but I completely disagree that Fitzpatrick should be considered a better shot at the backup job simply because he runs the ball a bit more and better. I just don’t like the thought of going with the same 2 guys as last year. I think there needs to be some sort of shake-up. That’s hardly a scientific reason to support Brohm over Fitz, but I actually think we should have seen more from Fitz in the preseason based on his work in Cincinnati and last season starting 8 games for the Bills. He has a TON more experience, and he hasn’t separated himself from Brohm.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
“He has a TON more experience, and he hasn’t separated himself from Brohm.”
So far, he has separated himself from Brohm. Against the 2nd team unit, Fitzpatrick has helped the team score 3 TDs, 2 of them he threw himself, and posted a 110 passer rating. With Brohm, you get a guy with a lower 80 range passer rating, and has only produced 1 productive drive, which lead to 3 points. Unless Brohm looks brilliant against the Lions, he is either going to be cut or find himself once again, a 3rd string QB.
If Edwards can rebound, then why not Brohm?
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Whoa. What’s premature about saying Fitzpatrick has made a solid case, and that Brohm has work to do?
by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, actually nothing as I think about it. It’s just that I think it doesn’t get better with Fitzpatrick, but it very well could (or should) get better with Brohm. Brohm has a touch and awareness on the field I rather prefer to Fitzy.
Ben Linus makes a great point that, yes, Fitzpatrick has been on the field for those TDs. I just do not feel as well going into the season with Edwards, Fitzpatrick, and Brown. Somehow, just adding in Brohm between Edwards and Brown has me a bit more calm. It makes no sense i’m sure, because Fitzy’s thrown those TDs.
Tell you what: I’ll revisit my Brohmtimism after the Lions game.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 29, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd feel a lot better about cutting Brohm...
…if Levi Brown had some stellar moments in the next preseason game. I think the question comes down to which QB Chan thinks has more substance, Levi Brown or Brian Brohm. I don’t think he would hesitate to put Levi on the PS if he favored Brian.
That’s what’s most bothersome to me. Why are we to think Brown safe simply because he was drafted by Nix and Gailey and because he’s a rookie? He has done less than nothing so far. Edwards, Fitzpatrick, and Brohm are all young QBs. If they rate higher than Brown, shouldn’t they land spots on the roster? Isn’t that what we’ve all been told is the case – that the best players will stick? If Brown isn’t good enough to be #3 for the Bills, how many other teams are going to steal him away this season? That’s a question i’d love to have answered.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 29, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He has done less than nothing so far
I hear ya that his preseason mop up duty hasn’t exactly produced highlights, but I don’t agree that he’s done less than nothing or even nothing. On one of his first drives he completed a 3rd and long conversion with a pass that was placed precisely between a couple of defenders.
He was drafted as a development project because he’s got amazing potential – the physical attributes and toughness one looks for in a QB and he lit it up at Troy (very similar senior year stats to Brohm’s senior year). He’s clearly very rough around the edges, but he still demonstrates what he was drafted for – potential.
The question I saw earlier in this thread that interests me is who has more potential as a development project – Brown or Brohm?
Sample size!!
I have a problem with comparing QB rating or any stats really for ~20 something pass attempts. I hope that CHIX are thinking the same.
They have a much better idea of the abilities and potential of each from hundreds if not thousands of practice pass attempts. They may even study film of practice reps (hopefully).
I believe that the decision has already been made, regardless of what happens in Detroit.
by LoydKristmis on Aug 29, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
excellent name
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I'm not sure we have the tools or the talent....
by J2 on Aug 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Give Brohm a REAL chance...
Isn’t about time Gailey gave Brohm a real chance to prove himself? With far less game experience than Edwards or Fitzpatrick, he is already playing far better than either played in their first few games in the league. So far, he hasn’t been given much of an opportunity to prove himself on the field with the Bills better offensive players. His college career was significantly better statistically than either of the other two against far better competition. If the Bills pass up the chance to develop Brohm into a true franchise QB, and decide instead to rely on three guys whose career stats (college and pro) pale in comparison, that would be a mistake. I say bring in Brohm in the Detroit game after two series, let him play the rest of the half with the 1’s, and finish the game with the 2’s and 3’s. Anything less is poor judgment in my opinion, considering the track records of Edwards and Fitzpatrick in recent years, and the currently unknown but very likely strong upside in developing a talent of Brohm’s caliber. Though I could name a number of franchise QB’s, including Hall of Famers, who took 3 or 4 years to reach their potential, I doubt it’s necessary since everyone knows who they are. Brohm was a high school first team All-American, Division I All-American in college… and for good reason…. I say give the guy a chance to develop and he just might prove to be an outstanding NFL starting QB.
I’d argue that he’s been given more opportunity than Fitzpatrick. Or he will have by the close of the preseason, at any rate.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
then you might want to make that argument on Friday :-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Your kidding, right?
How many years has Fitz been in the league? How many starts? He’s had WAY more opportunity to show his stuff under game conditions than Brohm’s had. Both Edwards and Fitzpatrick have had tons of opportunity, over several years, while Brohm’s had next to none in comparison. Green Bay can’t be counted because Rodgers had been anointed Favre’s replacement before Brohm was drafted, so he had a very poor chance of competing as an inexperienced rookie. When Brohm’s started 8 or 9 games, then maybe you can say he’s had the same chance the other two have had. I reiterate, Brohm’s upside, based on everything we know about him, is far greater than Fitzpatrick’s or Edwards’. Let him have a chance to develop… like the other two have, and then make a judgment.
I meant given by this coaching staff. None of what happened before this year matters.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree that nothing that happened before this year matters, it does, even if its a little.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 30, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It really, REALLY does NOT matter. I mean, it matters for the players, obviously, but in terms of the evaluation that Gailey, Cortez and Nix are making, it’s negligible to the point of meaninglessness.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I can definitely see how the article could be seen as unfair. It’s a little odd in timing to say that Fitz has made a solid case and Brohm has to overcome this, and also say that Brohm’s been given equal or more opportunity than Fitz (by the end of the preseason). Both conclusions favor Fitzpatrick, yet one is taken from the perspective of three preseason games and the other from all four.
It does seem that after the fourth game it would make more sense to think about this.
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Well, be comforted by the fact that I have always planned to re-visit this after Brohm’s hefty playing time against Detroit.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no doubt. I trust in your delivery (usually!), I just know you have a lot of influence over the very fickle beliefs about our Bills players here amongst the Rumblers. Maybe I should give the community more credit. . .but maybe not. :) I’m worried that a good percentage of people honestly did swing their mindset over to Fitz after reading this. Hopefully the fourth preseason game makes it all moot, one way or the other.
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If mindsets changed, it was reading comprehension, and not anything I was subliminally stating, I assure you. :)
by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Revisiting Question for Brian
Brian…I will start by being upfront about being a big Brohm supporter. I have follwed him from High School through Louisville, Green Bay and now in Buffalo. I will also be the first to admit that in Green Bay he looked terrible and his one start with the Bills was nothing to brag about. However, against Washington, I saw for the first time in the NFL the Brohm that I saw in college in terms of confidence and being comfortable. So now I will get to my question. My sense in this entire preseason is that you are not a “Brohm Guy” and I have yet to understand why? I think Fitz has shown where his peak is and Brohm has not, but as I said above, I think Brohm has finally become comfortable and I believe that if he is the #2 guy this year he will inevitably play, due to Edwards inability to stay healthy, and be successful. I don’t see where Brohm has gotten more opportunity than Fitz and you are comparing two games worth of stats on Fitz to one game for Brohm and outside of the TD’s, Brohms #‘s in one game are equal to Fitz. So how about letting Brohm get his second game in then let’s see where the chips fall?
Well, firstly, tell me where in this “hey, Fitzpatrick’s been OK” article I denied Brohm the opportunity to unseat him.
And then when you come back and say “oh, well, I guess you didn’t,” I’ll tell you that I hope he lights the world on fire Thursday night and throws for six touchdowns against Detroit’s scrubs. I’m all for a QB showing something more than game management skills here.
by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My Opinion
The person they select to be #2 will be the one they believe could surpass Trent. If and Only if Trent crawls back into his shell, they need to put in a guy who can raise his game to another level. This is why I am in favor of Fitz. He can still win us some games and knows how to run an offense. Brohm may have up side, or a higher ceiling but is it worth the gameble of cutting Fitz and not having him available if called upon. I dont think one more game for Brohm will be enough and it will be unfortunate, because I think he may be okay in another year or two.
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Yes
but is it worth the gameble of cutting Fitz and not having him available if called upon.
Let’s face it. If Trent implodes, Fitz is not the long term answer. Brohm…maybe…..maybe not, but I sure would like to find out.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Let's hope he has a good outing against Detroit.
Honestly, Making Chan’s job as difficult as possilble is why he was brought in.
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Exactly...
if Brohm closes the perceived gap, he must stay IMO. I still dont understand how any one, and I really mean that, believes that Fitz is a competent back-up QB. It baffels me when I hear people say they want Fitz to stay over Brohm. I know Brohm hasn’t been a world-beater, but he is hanging with Fitz while he has consistenly been given less reps in the games and practices with the 2’s. Fitz reminds me of the guy who tries so hard to belong, but everyone really knows that sooner or later, he’ll show his true self. If Trent goes down, do people really want Fitz to come in and try to a us a game or two? I ask why? If Trent goes down and we dont put in a young QB like Brohm or Brown, we are still in the same position next year (with a worse draft pick if Fitz is able to win a game or two) not knowing if we have anything in these guys. If TE is not our starting QB next year, who is? It wont be Fitz, so lets get rid of him now. Its not like he is some veteran QB who has had success in this league (like Mark Brunell or Byron Leftwich). He is a journeyman backup QB (with a ridiculous salary) who is having trouble separating himself from a PS player in Brohm.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 30, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
We know how far the team will to with Fitzpatrick. He’s not an unlikeable guy, either. He’s just not someone you can envision as “the man” in Buffalo. Brohm to me, while showing very little so far, is far more intriguing as a long-term prospect. I’m not sold on Brohm, but i’m also of the belief we haven’t seen the best of him yet.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 29, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you. What do we really have to lose this year anyway? Does +1 wins or whatever Fitzpatrick might give you as a backup matter in a 6-10 / 7-9 season?
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Right...
he only hurts draft position in that scenario
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 30, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But….if they believe that Fitz is that guy, and he becomes #2, then why wasn’t he their starter from day 1? He took the job from Edwards last season. Edwards couldn’t win it back. Shouldn’t they have viewed Fitzpatrick as their guy all along if they think making him #2 will eventually make him their starter?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 29, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My Answer
Is Chan Gailey, He can take a lemon and make lemonade with it. Also, Chan expects to win every time they take the field, his introductory speech. Trent’s accuracy, Trent’s footwork and all other skills, Trent’s training camps along with his ability to progress in learning new systems have once again pushed into the logical starting position. Even to this point, in preseason he still has shown why he should be our #1 go to guy even though those passes that he continually overthrows to his wide outs are throws he should make every time. The one to Johnson should of been a touchdown, the one last night to Evans should of been a touchdown. I am saying if Chan expects to win every time they take the field, and even though Fitz’s skill set is not as strong as Trent’s, he makes those throws and it puts points on the board and puts play makers on the field. I am not sure that Brohm can make those throws and I don’t feel Gailey will wait to find out. We still have another game for Brohm and I do hope he does well in that game, I just want our #2 guy to be ready to play if called upon and not sit there not knowing what to expect each time he is expected to play.
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Saying Fitzpatrick has made a solid case that needs to be overcome
Is like saying that a baseball team who leads going into the bottom of the ninth has made the best showing towards winning the game. The timing of the statement is poor because the bottom of the 9th bears watching. Anything can yet happen.
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haha-nice
Is like saying that a baseball team who leads going into the bottom of the ninth has made the best showing towards winning the game. The timing of the statement is poor because the bottom of the 9th bears watching
I’d add that the team batting is now at the top of the order and with the bases loaded…Whenever Fitz is in the game, I feel like its just going to go downhill from there.
I bash Fitz a lot, its not because he is not a good guy, or even an NFL player, he is. He is just not a quality starting QB (and never will be) and is just okay as a back-up, but is ideal as a 3rd stringer. Indy could use him, because that Painter kid (he has a tiny face on a huge head) sucks. If we had our franchise guy, I would be more inclined to keep him around, but if any QBs beside TE get PT this year, I believe it is in the best interests of the club if that PT goes to either Brohm or Brown.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 30, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with your assessment of Fitzpatrick. Fitz is not a Jeff Garcia, Frank Reich, or even Kelly Holcomb type backup. These guys could get you up to half a season of relief appearances if you really needed them to. With Fitz, any more than one or two games and you’re starting to worry. I would like to have one of those more reliable backups, but the player that currently most resembles Reich is our starter, Trent Edwards. I bet Reich would look a lot like Edwards if he was in Trent’s situation.
Trent would be very comforting to have on the bench as a backup if we could do better as the starter. At the same time, like Reich, he’s not a bad starter, but he’s also not someone you want to have play all 16 games if you can do better.
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I wish I had a horse in the backup QB race. It would make it more interesting. So many people were pulling for Brohm for the top job. If he gets cut there may be mutiny at WGR and around here.
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It’s hard for me to have a favorite (and perhaps you as well) when I don’t really see a noticeable difference in the production that Fitz and Brohm would likely contribute as a reliever. They are different types of QBs, but would they average out to having roughly the same effect? I believe so, thus my apathy.
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If he gets cut, I think Jerry Sullivan and Bulldog will go apescat and eat their microphones on the air.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 30, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I am torn
I want Brohm to make the roster, but I would also REALLY like to see Sullivan and Bulldog go apescat :-)
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