McIntyre, Nelson Have Played Themselves Onto Bills Roster
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT
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PrintThe Buffalo Bills are traveling to Detroit today for tomorrow night's preseason finale against the Lions. Jobs are on the line, with the NFL mandating that teams trim their rosters to 53 players this Saturday. We'll talk more about which players can earn roster spots tomorrow; today, we want to focus on players that have already played their way onto the roster.
I'll start this discussion off by naming the only two players that were not considered locks for the final roster even a month ago, but that have impressed with their play and are, at least in my opinion, virtual locks for the 53-man squad. One of those players is veteran fullback Corey McIntyre. The other is undrafted rookie receiver David Nelson.
We discussed Nelson's surprising preseason earlier this week; the Florida product has, for all intents and purposes, cemented himself as the No. 4 receiver entering the regular season after recording two touchdowns in two preseason games. He's also proven a quick heal, returning from hamstring and ankle injuries with blazing speed.
McIntyre's play has not been quite as impressive as Nelson's. He's been hit-or-miss in pass protection, and still occasionally whiffs as a lead blocker in the run game. His play has been steady, however, and he's made some bruising hits. Chan Gailey has used him offensively just as much as his tight ends. Factor in his special teams prowess and Buffalo's struggles in that area, and it's incredibly unlikely that the Bills part with McIntyre prior to the regular season.
The question for you, dear readers, is this: are there any other players that you believe have played themselves onto the final roster this summer?
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Im sure everyone is going to say J. Bell has...........
and thats the first name that comes to my mind.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 1, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure I’d include him here. Convince me. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
As a standalone RB, I think JB’s performance has been amazing – it verifies the potential he showed at Wayne State – the D2 player of the year and something stupid like the 8th leading rusher in NCAA history.
However, where does he fit in a roster that already includes Spiller, Jackson, and Lynch? I keep asking myself that. The article you published on special teams usage makes a lot of sense to me – it seems like he needs to demonstrate multi-dimensional potential to crack this squad with the depth we’ve got at RB.
I’m not convinced he’s done that yet, but I do hope we find room for him – he’s fun to watch in the run game, and having that level of depth at RB gives the Bills some interesting trade options should we need to trade up in the draft in 2011 or fill needs prior to that.
I think if they don’t keep him, he’ll be snatched up. Man, this team can just not afford to give up good talent. If I’m Gailey, I’m keeping J. Bell no matter what.
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I’m also not thoroughly convinced Bell would be snatched up as quickly as everyone seems to think he will. He’d end up somewhere, but he still probably wouldn’t have a significant role anywhere.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Plenty of 3rd, 4th and 5th string RB’s have looked good playing against reserves in the preseason, and still got cut. How often do these deep reserves ever get snatched up by another team?
I think Simpson might have a better shot at the roster because of what else he can do….
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by Kurupt on Sep 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Simpson better as a pure running back than I do Bell. Bell’s got great balance. I prefer Simpson’s quicks.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I like Simpson’s quick moves and side steps too, but IMO he isn’t even close to the “pure” RB that Bell is. Simpson looks to bounce everything, Bell takes it straight ahead. Simpson is attractive for the being the exact opposite of a ’pure" RB, he returns kicks, and can catch well. We already 3 RBs that can do that well, we only have one power back in Lynch, keeping Bell makes a lot more sense to me than Simpson. Bell needs to be more patient, but with our current top 2 RBs nursing injuries, we will definitely keep him. STs can be taught, so after a few weeks, I bet he would be able to contribute on STs.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
J. Bell is the new Freddy.....
Under-rated, unloved, and he will eventually be a starter.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 1, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
I want him around and ready to roll when Marshawn or Freddy leaves Buffalo. His style of running is needed later in the year (or in a game).
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Joique Bell is not even remotely as good as Fred Jackson is.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re overrating the need for a power back, and underrating Simpson’s capabilities as a runner.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
We are supposed to be a power-running FB team...
based on the abilities of both (and both are talented), I like Bell more. I’m not overrating or underrating one or the other, I simply feel as though Bell is a better long-term player for the Bills.
And no one said that J. Bell is even as remotely as good as Fred Jackson, but I think he is better than Chad Jackson and a few other “on-the-bubble” players.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 2, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sergeant Major Thor called Bell the “new Freddie.” I was responding to him. :)
Question: have we looked like a power running team to you this preseason? People need to stop pigeon-holing our offense. Chan Gailey will make this offense what it needs to be to score points, whether that’s with a pounding rushing attack or out of a four-wide spread.
I do not think that Bell is better than either Simpson or Jackson. That’s not to say he’s not a good player with solid upside. I just can’t find a spot for him on this team.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you could put Trent on here, as he had the (slight) chance of being cut had he not played well in the preseason.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
Stupar
has not exactly played himself onto the roster, but he fits in with the guys who went from bubble/likely cut to straight up locks.
"Football's gotta be dangerous. It's gotta be labor and pains." -Deacon Jones
I actually think that you can argue that he played himself onto the team, considering he’d leapfrogged his competition before everyone started dropping like flies.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Regarding Stupar’s play: I’ve noted him having goon position on his blocks, but he’s just a little undersized to seal the edge or move a front 7 defender. Mind you, position and technique go a long way, hence his moving up the roster. He’s also pretty dependable for a short catch and run. I can’t remember and horrible drops or fumbles from him.
But nothing on his resume has stands out as an “you have to keep me” play.
"Football's gotta be dangerous. It's gotta be labor and pains." -Deacon Jones
Well, if we are keeping JP Foschi
we’re keeping Stupar, he is solid yet unspectacular.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I considered him a lock then, but I know that I was in the minority.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
For any other team but bills pre-now
if parrish had spent his career in with a good offensive mind thus far in his career he would probably be a household name. I have always liked him, he is probably the quickest player i have ever seen. Just take New England for example you cant tell me you think wes welker is a better athlete than Parrish Maybe a little stronger but parrish is much quicker and much faster and i dont understand where this whole thing about him not being able to catch came from who has actually seen him drop a pass let alone a lot. O and watch out for his cousin Brandon Oliver who is now the starting running back at the University at Buffalo
I was fairly convinced that he was going to traded earlier this year. I am pleasantly surprised but his progress with Gailey.
by TedWashington'sRobotDance on Sep 1, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad Jackson/Ellis
Both should make the roster due to their play in camp/preseason.
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-C.J. Spiller
You’ll have to convince me on Chad Jackson. I’m not seeing this guy the way a lot of y’all seem to see him.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
with you here.
I’ve been impressed by some of the plays Jackson has been in on, but if you look at consistent play-making ability, he doesn’t seem to compare to Nelson, Parrish, or Johnson. When it comes to receivers beyond that, I’d argue that Naaman Roosevelt may beat out Jackson on the depth chart…I’ve not exhaustively compared to two side by side, but Naaman seems to make more of the opportunities given on receiving and the return team.
I think a lot of people just see his raw talent
and get excited. I agree that he hasn’t been consistent, but he has shown flashes. If he could be more consistent at catching the ball I would be happy. Question is, would you rather Chad Jackson or James Hardy. I would rather the more athletic and talented Jackson over the slow and nonathletic Hardy.
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by silverstreak3k on Sep 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you that Jackson > Hardy at this point. Everything points to that. Doesn’t mean he’s necessarily a lock for the roster, though.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think Naaman has a shot
Hes just been extremely consistent, now I know he doesnt stand out but this guy just seems to make the right decision/play all the time. Hes smart, runs great routes and just seems to fit Chans description of what he wants in a reciever
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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 1, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Roosevelt will be on the practice squad. No way he makes the 53-man roster.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Im in agreement with Brian that Roosevelt will be on the PS, I think he needs some time to really learn the game.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s the case I would make for Jackson: I will be shocked if the Bills don’t keep 5 WR’s this year, and by process of elimination I can’t think of any WR who deserves the #5 slot more than Jackson. Naamen Roosevelt has real potential, but is still pretty raw in his route-running and is more of a possession receiver alone, where Jackson has the speed to go down the sidelines. Donald Jones also seems like a PS candidate at this time. Easley would be a strong contender for #5 (or even #4), but he’s on IR. And Jackson is clearly ahead of Hardy.
On the positive side, Jackson has made some very impressive catches, including that great sideline catch from Brohm during the Colts game. As a vet, he has his route-running and blocking down, and with his size he can easily handle press coverage and contribute on ST.
Put that all together I would see him as a lock for #5 this year, but he is also going to have to keep improving if he is going to make the roster in the future.
I get that argument – it’s exactly why I expect him to make the team, too – but I don’t think that constitutes “playing your way onto the roster.”
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess C Jax played his way onto the roster by just showing flashes of talent and being more durable than his peers then. Huggins, Hardy, & Easley all weren’t able to do this. That drop in the endzone from Fitz Saturday didn’t help his resume though. He’s gotta make that catch!
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-C.J. Spiller
ah,i must be thick,but
how else do you make the team whitout catching,running,blocking,what else constitutes making the team
FRANK
I suppose that making the roster as the #5 WR is not exactly covering yourself with glory, especially after being a high second-round pick. But it’s also true that Jackson had fallen so far that he was completely out of football last year. I would certainly agree that he did not play himself onto the roster in the same way David Nelson did, though. Maybe closer to McIntyre.
TWSS
is not exactly covering yourself with glory
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad Jackson
I am in pretty much the same place as Brian
Chad Jackson
i have nothing against him other than the fact that they said the same thing when he was with the Pats that he would shred up the camps and preseason and dissapear during the regular season and when it counted
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I think ashton has proved himself to be worthy of a roster spot. His play is solid, and ensures we have depth in the position. I would not have any worries about him having to play in nickel or dime packages, if it came to that. He is physical, and has some nice insticts.
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IMO, Youboty has been the 3rd best CB on the team this preseason…those penalties from Florence really get to me. He can’t keep holding people every rep.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Wang needs to go on IR and that will make one last cut anybody in objection should realize that he gets hurt everytime he steps on the field and has barely practiced maybe he can do something next year. Also J Bell will likely make it for atleast the first week or two as jackson and lynch return, then who knows the bills have a great problem too many capable running backs. Donovan Woods (i think thats his name) the converted QB to LB has looked pretty good and really athletic especially on special teams being one of the first down on cover, final roster i am not sure but i think he is definately cemented a spot on the practice squad. John McCargo has been solid if not impressive and will likely remain on the roster, especially due to the amount of four man nickel fronts the bills come out in. Coleman who went undrafted for unknown reasons has been decent rushing the passer and sadly looks more polished than Aaron Maybin in his all around game as a rookie than Maybin does in his second year. He too is a likely roster practice squad tweener who may make the jump due to the lack of pass rush and the injury to Torbor. Naaman Roosevelt has been very solid in the slot but will likely find himself on the practice squad if for no other reason than he will likely see less of a draw from other teams, but should they keep 6 (Evans, Parrish, Johnson, Nelson, Jackson,) Roosevelt will likely leap frog Hardy especially given his skills and experience on Special teams but dont count him out to unseat jackson either.
I am 100% certain that the Bills would prefer having Wang on the field in some capacity, whether it be as part of the 53-man roster or on the practice squad. All that’s hurt is his thumb. It’d be pretty stupid to strip him of a full season’s worth of practice time for a thumb injury that will only bother him for a max of another four weeks.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh i wrote a reply and deleted it by accident but in summary Wang is probably the fourth tackle at best right now and has not played in an actual game and very little live action even in practice, he can get bigger faster stronger and more adept to the pro game while on IR, and he realistically is not even fourth as kirk chambers probably has that spot with experience and the fact that he is proven maybe not a great player but the coaches know what they have against pro competition. Also whoever has been playing tackle with Brohm and Fitzpatrick has been pretty unnoticable which is a good thing as both have had ok time to throw.
A guy can’t practice if he’s on IR. The best thing Wang could do there is stay in shape and try to get stronger.
In 2008, Buffalo stashed Demetrius Bell on their active roster for the sole purpose of developing him on the practice field. Not sure they’d do that again, but keeping a deep reserve at OT is hardly unprecedented.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What about Bryan Scott
With switching to a 3-4 it seemed as he might get lossed in translation but actually he has come in and played extremely well as a dime and nickel linebacker
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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 1, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think “extremely well” is a bit far-fetched. He’s been serviceable. The Bills can do better.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yea he cant practice but he can work out and get better with technique i just dont think they can afford a roster spot for him right now especially with Bell coming off a severe injury i think they need to know what they got at reserve OT, if i am not mistaken wang has injured more than just the thumb in the little he has played, its kind of a big chance to take for an injury prone team though i think a legitimate strength and conditioning program which they now seem to have should curb that
A) You can’t practice technique if you don’t PRACTICE. Think about it. :)
B) If Bell’s knee injury worries them, I can’t fathom why additional depth would be a bad thing.
C) Wang hurt his leg in minicamps. It’s not an issue anymore.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 1, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Footwork and hand placement which is the most important thing for OTs can be done outside of practice and there r many specialists (coaches) who work with pro and college players for a fee of course, i see what your saying the bills back up tackle situation is abysmal to say the least but all we know about wang is he has sustained multiple injuries, apparently he practiced today or yesterday or something but i really want to see him in a game granted meradith and chambers are incompetent they are proven in that incompetency and their weaknesses are known and can be fortified with things like tight ends and backs chippings and in some cases roll outs, in the end if demetrius bell gets hurt the bills are in trouble regardless of Ed Wangs Position on the roster or IR, i mean easley wasnt lost for the entire season and may have been able to contribute at some point but also find his way onto IR. i just feel that the coaching staff wants people that are ready to play on their roster for opening day is Wang gonna be there at that point in time.
PS?
You have not addressed why putting him on IR would be a better idea than the PS. Put him on the PS if ur concerned about the roster spot. I know that exposes him to waivers, but is anyone else really going to put him on their active roster? Practice isn’t the same as a game, and tutoring-type training you propose will not be anywhere near the same quality as practice. …Of course, I wouldn’t have put Easley on the IR if I thought he’d be available in Sept/Oct, so I guess that shows what I know.
by Denver's Buffalo Fan on Sep 1, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
PS
Yea i mean they liked him enough to draft him they probably dont want to lose him though with how little practice he has done idk how much attention he would garner from other teams. It appears that the coaching staff has no time to wait for injuries not that i blame them they need players to contribute, which is the point with Easley and why i could see wang having the same destiny.
He sprained his ankle and torqued his thumb. If that’s all it takes to get the label injury prone 70% of the NFL falls into that category. Keeping tackles, especially young tackles on the active roster allows for too much growth to ignore.
Given the situation regarding the Bills offensive line there’s zero excuse to not keep young players on the roster to allow them reps vs. other pros. They just won’t get that kind of help, training, or conditioning from some side bar coach.
i just feel that the coaching staff wants people that are ready to play on their roster for opening day is Wang gonna be there at that point in time.
That is absolutely the heart of the issue, and will be the main thrust behind their decision. I still think Wang has a good shot at making the team.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Wang
yea and i just dont see it he has barely practiced, i personally only made one training camp practice and he wasnt practicing but when he was practicing i didnt hear anything about him being noticably better than any other tackles or lineman rotating through and now they have all that practice time and game experience on him i just think he is in a little bit of a hole. We will know by the end of the weekend because the bills already probably know what they are going to do with him or will know very shortly especially with the roster reduction approaching.
I remember
before the start of the preseason, I was in favor of replacing Corey mcIntyre with Joique Bell. I have to say, I was wrong with that assessment. I like both players, but CM certainly brings with him his unique blocking ability and ability to be used as a hidden weapon.
CM certainly brings with him his unique blocking ability
Unique as in pop and stop…I like his size, his determination and his grit. But his technique is absolutely horrid. He stopd moving his legs and he doesn’t use his hands at all. The guy is a battering ram, but he still can’t block.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
53 Locks
Add Arthur Moats name to the list of locks.
I don't see that
He’s made some plays, but has routinely looked lost out there. He should make it, but I don’t see how he’s a lock…
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by Kurupt on Sep 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Moats too
He definately looks horrible in coverage like K says, but his pass rushing looks ok and that should be good enough for who its for. I would like to see him outside and use him situationally. He also has a knack for stripping the ball. To me he is hope as a pass rusher for the future and who knows what else as he grows into the role coming from DE.
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He needs to play...
that guy can be beast on STs and he needs all the reps he can get. Remember, he was a DT and DE in college, not he is expected to cover, the scheme needs to make up for his shortfalls for the time-being. Moats will make the roster, he is a lock.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
on Corey – am I the only one who thought he looked good carrying the ball last season? even on the screen pass this past game he looked good. I thought he was a lock as long as they wanted to use the FB position this year.
What about Donald Jones? I know he’s only played late and it might be a stretch but he looks quick on returns and even when he catches the ball. He’s got some moves.
I think Hardy has played himself off of the team but Nelson will more than make up for his loss – which was about zero
I'm not sure we have the tools or the talent....
To tell you the thruth I like both Jones and Roosvelt over uber talented but underachiever Jackson. They have the same amount of production on the passing game and they are at least willing blockers in the run game.
They would probably end in the PS and that is not necesarily a bad thing, they both have potential to help us down the road.
About the FB, I like McIntyre and he will make the team this year. I would like an upgrade next year.
McCargo, maybe? He’s looked better this year than he has his entire career. Not sure if he’s quite a definite lock yet, but he’s way beyond the near-certain cut he was after failing the Colts physical.
Theres no maybes in Locks
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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 1, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you, McCargo has outplayed S. Johnson...
I was wathcing the game again the other night and I kept seeing #91 getting tossed around, literally tossed to the ground and I thinking “Who is that? #91 is getting handled”, when I found out it was Johnson, I wasn’t surprised. He looks slower this year and he has shown nothing in regards to pass rush ability this year. I know its there, but he seems to be cruising.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
another WR maybe?
what about David Jones? I think our receiving corps is lee. stevie, roscoe, nelson, and then its kinda a guess. I think jones had some nice catches in the cinci game and i think in the previous. he also had some decent returns. But the same can go for chad jackson. except in different games. you could make a case for jackson having more “upside” but then again its doesnt really matter how much “upside” u have unless u produce on the feild
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Donald Jones, isn't it?
Couldn’t be considered a lock in my eyes, looks the part though, what sticks out to me is a couple of drops, Brohms’ only pass attempt last week was a play he should of made IMHO.
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Trent Edwards
It might seem obvious, but during th “open competition” I didn’t consider it a lock he would make the team. He is obviously the starter now…
Actually, I would go as far to say that Trent has had the BEST preseason of any Bill, others close are Nelson and J. Bell, but those guys didn’t go from possibly not being on the roster to #1 QBs, if only by default.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 1, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Trent has played well the last two games, but don't forget he was atrocious week 1.
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by JPH on Sep 1, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice idea for a post: The top 5 Bills who have had the best preseason
Spiller, obviously. Trent is in there. Unfortunately, I cannot think of a single defensive guy who would make the list. Can you think of 5 players?
Sometimes it’s frustrating to be a Bills fan…
by Defensewinsgames on Sep 2, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions
McCargo, Youboty, & Coleman have all played well with no or few mistakes (as far as I can tell without knowing their specfic assignments). I really like Moats too, he needs to get comfy at ILB, but he is stout, he’s all over the place and he blitz’s well. I dont know if I’ll ever want him in coverage though. There was a play during the Cincy game in which the play called had Moats lined up on a 3rd WR, that should never happen. He did what he could and trailed the throw and made the tackle, but there was no way he was going to be able to cover a WR.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Ellis, Cordaro Howard, & Jamon Meredith
Ellis has cemented his role no doubt about it and may even start come week 1, Howard has outplayed any reserve OL and has even stepped in and played with the first teamers and played decent, Coupled with the fact he’s one of Gailey’s own hes a lock and Jamon Meredith, this regime owed him nothing and he has come in and played very vell in spot action at both taclkle positions and correct me if im wrong i thought I saw him line up a guard a couple of times
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I agree with all of those as players...
They have all contributed when they were given the chance. Howard has really impressed me for being an UDFA, he looks like he belongs on an NFL field.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you trying to convince me that when the Turk comes around to talk to people after the game that Howard isn’t gonna be nervous???
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll tell you one guy that I don’t see making this team (not to side bar the conversation or anything) is Spencer Johnson. To me, he hasn’t shown much of anything. I know we are devoid of DE’s on this team for the sake of the rotation but I’d rather stack ourselves at other positions than to keep someone on just because we need a body? Anybody else have a read on this guy this summer? Tell me if I’m off base here
Spencer Johnson
i think hes just a solid role player its probably a good thing u dont notice him
McCargo is a role-player too
and he has made himself get noticed. I posted a little ways about S. Johnson, he seems like a shell of his former self.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
McCargo and Johnson
McCargo has always been a more explosive talented player but rarely exploited those talents with the exception of a couple games back in 08 i believe. Johnson has always just been solid i would really have to watch film of the LOS to determine whether he is winning or losing at the POA, not to mention the coaching staff may or may not want him doing certain things if he gets cut i guess you r right in the fact that his game has diminished or he is just awful as a 3-4 end
Chris Ellis and Joquie Bell are guys I’d add to this list. In regards to Bell, forget convention, our situation this year calls for us to carry 4 backs. Keep your talent no matter where it is. Cut someone else, i think hes earned it.
Ellis went from being a likely cut in the off-season to being a potential starter. good for him.
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Bell has to make the team though
I’m guessing he might be #5 at RB right now….
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by Kurupt on Sep 1, 2010 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why? Because of Chad’s return game? Is that good enough reason? We have Roscoe Parrish, Leodis McKelvin, Fred Jackson and Terrence McGee (yes I know its been a while) all capable of returning punts or kicks. With three and apparently four talented backs, I think we can afford to put Fred on punt returns.
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by poz on Sep 1, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We wont keep 5...
unless you include CM in the mix and he would be the last to get carry from the HB position.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
funny, how
UF WR prospects are really starting to turn heads. From Percy Harvin in Minny, David Nelson here, Riley Cooper in Philly and Louis Murphy in Oakland, seems that recent UF WR products are doing well for themselves lately. Just thought I would point that out because there seemed like a time there where people said Urban Meyer would not be able to push out good WR’s because of his crazy offense.
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Percy
Harvin’s mentioned because he’s needed to pick up slack for Rice (injured). I’ve got Harvin on fantasy team, heres hoping he does more than just turn heads! And hope he doesn’t have another migrane…
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by buffalobacker on Sep 1, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Those migraines
they have haunted him his entire football career. Dude has incredible talent and his only hdownfall are those dang migraines. Well that and annoying lil minor injuries too.
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by silverstreak3k on Sep 1, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its two-fold...
IMO, this just shows how awful Tim Tebow is as a QB, he had all that talent and the WRs couldn’t get the ball from their star RB. ; )
stir it up
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 1, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha. Don't think so.
I think the coaching staff said to read your first two reads and after that run it. I think it was coaching over talent. He dd amass almost 3000 yards last year and more the two years before that. Percy had quite a few productive seasons before be drafted, so did Murphy and Cooper. Nelson is the only odd one.
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by silverstreak3k on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tebow
That name is way over used, its like his name has transcended its purpose, his name. Now its like the" little train that could. " Tebow is like all thats good about football and the world. To me he’s a rookie QB that has been over analyzed and media hyped to absurdity. All I know about Tim Tebow now is he got hit pretty good trying to score by brute force and is out nursing a rib injury. The kid has heart, hope he does well but we didn’t draft the guy, let it go….
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by buffalobacker on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
silver didnt bring it up
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lol
Yeah shoulda responded to NorCal, sorry…..
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by buffalobacker on Sep 2, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
haha...
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 2, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
Sucked me right in….
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by buffalobacker on Sep 2, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Meyer stresses perfection
These guys might not catch alot of passes but they block, they run good routes, they have great field awareness, UF is one heck of a football school its turning into the new U. When you get a scholarship to be a reciever it obvious you can catch the ball and they teach you everything else, it really showed me Nelson maturity on the TD catch against washington his route died in the back of the endzone but hew found space created a seem for Fitzy and and created a TD thats what good recievers so, you see it more with TE’s but when revievers can do this its a huge plus.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Nelson looks pretty well-rounded
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 2, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Joique Bell
The guy just makes plays every time he gets on the field.
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Antonio Coleman?
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I have not been overly impressed with his play. He’s been OK. Ways to go.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 2, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
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