Bills Place LB Mitchell On IR, Sign LB Ayodele
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:02 AM EDT
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PrintFor a second consecutive season, Kawika Mitchell's season has ended due to injury. The Buffalo Bills on Friday placed the veteran linebacker on Injured Reserve, signing free agent veteran Akin Ayodele to take his place on the active roster.
Mitchell had been penciled in as the primary backup to inside starters Paul Posluszny and Andra Davis. He injured his foot in practice this past Wednesday, and is now the sixth player to land on IR for Buffalo thus far this season. Signed to a five-year, $17.5 million deal in 2008, Mitchell appeared in all 16 games in his first full season with the Bills, but will enter the 2011 season having played just five games in the past two years. Due to make $2.75 million in each of the final two years of his deal, there's a very good chance that Mitchell has played his last down in a Bills uniform.
Mitchell's job responsibility now falls to Ayodele, a former Dolphin that has great familiarity with defensive coordinator George Edwards and his defensive scheme. Ayodele, 31, spent the past two seasons working with Edwards in Miami. He signed as a free agent with Denver this past March, but was surprisingly and abruptly released last weekend after starting at inside linebacker during the Broncos' first two preseason games. He registered 71 tackles and a forced fumble last season in Miami, but the free agent signing of Karlos Dansby made him expendable.
Chan Gailey will address the media early this afternoon after Friday's practice concludes; we should know then whether or not Ayodele will be available to play in Sunday's season-opener against his former team.
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Wow...
I was totally blindsided by this. It sounded minor then all of the sudden… I have to assume this is the last of Kawika. I don’t think we will see him in a Bills uni again.
by blitzboy54 on Sep 10, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+2
No doubt, seemed minor, as others have echoed, this looks like it for Kawika in a Bills uniform.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It never ended, really. I think we may see them challenge the number from last season.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Cracker - "Euro-Trash Girl"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Bummer
That’s unfortunate I really like Kawika. Also, seems like injuries are ravaging our team again. It’s too early to tell but 6 players on IR that can’t be good.
by brucesmithistheman on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
I like Kawika too. I sure hope the injuries stop, this is ridiculous what we have been going through the past few years.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Akin
Is he a LB or WR? His profile says he’s 5’ 9’ WR. from Denver.. I’m confused, will dig deeper..
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
That profile is horribly, horribly wrong. He’s a 6’2", 245-pound inside linebacker.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for clearing that up Brian…I was thinking maybe we had an iron man LB/WR combo that has never been done before after looking at his profile. I do not know much about him however, do you think it is a good pick up for depth?
He won’t hurt you. But he’s lost a lot of his athletic ability. Just a placeholder.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, much of the Bills roster feels like placeholder talent these days.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Cracker - "Euro-Trash Girl"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Pickup for a replacement
Ayodele can defiantly give you 10 solid plays a game, hes not a starter by any means but for depth good pickup
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" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
This probably isn’t important, but for the record Chris Brown says he is 30 years old, not 31. That could be Brownie’s mistake. Hard to tell.
He'll turn 31 next Friday
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Another day at the office
Seems about par for the Bills, it’s like our team’s made of glass. Well I guess the silver lining is…. help me out here
Circle them wagons!
Silver lining is...
Many people on here were worried about Mitchell’s potential contributions this year, and now we have someone much more familiar with the 3-4.
This team will not be safe until the rid themselves of all players brought in by the Circle of Suck.
Formerly of thatguy34 fame.
"And the best decision of my life proved to be the day I signed with the Buffalo Bills." - Jim Kelly
by Jon Harrington on Sep 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At least they weren’t called jerks.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t follow…
Formerly of thatguy34 fame.
"And the best decision of my life proved to be the day I signed with the Buffalo Bills." - Jim Kelly
by Jon Harrington on Sep 10, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhhh.
Formerly of thatguy34 fame.
"And the best decision of my life proved to be the day I signed with the Buffalo Bills." - Jim Kelly
by Jon Harrington on Sep 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That's INNER Circle of Suck, good sir
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
players brought in by the Circle of Suck.
That was an entertaining movie!!!
I am a big believer in the ''mirror test.'' All that matters is if you can look in the mirror and honestly tell the person you see there, that you've done your best.
Coach John McKay
Ugh
I really like Mitchell, but if Crowell was let go after the series of injuries he faced, Mitchell is going to be looking for a new home.
Things are looking great at LB, aren’t they?
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Unbelievable.........
It’s Déjà vu !!!!!!!!!!!
I am a big believer in the ''mirror test.'' All that matters is if you can look in the mirror and honestly tell the person you see there, that you've done your best.
Coach John McKay
Two ex-Dolphins signed this week
Martin and Ayodele. That almost appears sleazy.
I might be incorrect here but last time I remember Buffalo signing someone from an upcoming oppenent the week before the season started we won the game 31-0.
Id take that for sure. The Keg rumblin, bumblin, stumblin to a pick 6. That was great.
Season ended horribly… but man that opener was awesome.
Where else would you rather be?
Dolphins fan here
I’ll take that also. Patriots went on to win the Superbowl that year. So by all means lets all hope it plays out that way lol
by afceast on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ll go on record as saying I think the Bills have a great chance of winning Sunday’s game 31-0, than the Dolphins do of winning the Super Bowl this year.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Cracker - "Euro-Trash Girl"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously
Because its only 1 game…Miami has a better chance of making the Superbowl than the Bills have of making the playoffs :)
by afceast on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha
Yea probably a long stretch but you can do that when your team is 0-0. You gotta dream sometime. Bills fans know the feeling lol
by afceast on Sep 10, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no more or less than you do
the dream of Bill Parcells turning you guys into winners has yet to materialize into anything but ESPN calling your organization well run. We both have a lot of dreaming to do.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Umm
He’s been with them two years. And took a 1-15 to the AFC title and playoffs the next year.
As much as I hate the Dolphins I’d kill for being that well run.
by twoeightnine on Sep 10, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
they were
quite handily smoked in the first round and sent home scoring 9 pts in the playoffs before comign back down to Earth.
You would kill to go one and done in the playoffs?
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Miami
Over-rated! GO BILLS!!!
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by buffalobacker on Sep 10, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
I’d rather suck for a decade.
by twoeightnine on Sep 10, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, this!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
sorry
I’d rather suck for a decade.
But we were never saying their situation is the same as ours. Our Dolphins friend was saying how Bills fans know the feeling of dreaming and I was reminding him that so do Dolphins fans. Making the playoffs once since 2001 with an old QB and getting pummeled out and then sliding back to third in the division the next year is not the goal of any franchise. It shouldn’t ours. It isn’t a success story and Miami has sucked for a decade too.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
remember the cup cake schedule that year too? of course we couldn’t take advantage of it – but othe rteams did
Listen! You smell something?
well of course I remember that epic fail! i meant for the season though – would have been a great season to at least climb to .500 – if not over .500
Listen! You smell something?
by J2 on Sep 10, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i sure do j2
Very different than this year, isnt it. The schedule for our division is brutal.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
AFC title
He didnt do that.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
oh ok
that clears it up.
In all fairness, wasn’t that the year the Pats didnt have Tom Brady? Not making excuses, they won it fair and square but it is a serious factor.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
signing player just before season
They won the game and a few more, but then the wheels fell off and it has been all down hill from there.
Ayodele wasn't just cut by Miami
He was in Denver last.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Double cut, Yikes.
BWBA
Best Warm Body Available
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate them bringing in ex-Dolphins talent. I’ll also be a bit displeased if someday, as people have waxed about, Dan Marino is part owner of the team.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen where Kelly, Marino, Thomas, and someone else have been mentioned as business partners.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
If that keeps them in Buffalo
I’m down. They can add Troy Aikman, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Brady, whoever, to ensure the team stays where it belongs. Except Bryan Cox, because he’s a turd.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cox isn’t even that distinguished a person.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean to insult all the turds worldwide
Sorry ya little fellers!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Ayodele
Was cut right after Dansby signed…he knows nothing about this new Mike Nolan defense. Might know some weakness of the o-line though
by afceast on Sep 10, 2010 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think it’s the connection with Edwards vs. gaining any leverage for a game (Sunday). Akin couldn’t possibly know that much of Nolan’s scheme. He was gone before he could learn it.
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
i think it’s the connection with Edwards vs. gaining any leverage for a game (Sunday).
This. Rec Lobster.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
by JPH on Sep 10, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love their Chedder Bay Biscuits
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
I was thinking he meant rock lobster, not red lobster. Not sure which i prefer.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 10, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmmmm cheddar biscuits
and crab legs. Those alone make up for the fact that it’s Red Lobster.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
There’s no limit, as far as I’m aware.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
What's our record for IR in a season Brian?
I think it was 18 off the top of my head.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I THINK it was 21 last year
Cornell Green to C.J. Spiller-
"You’re all clear, kid! Now let’s win this thing and go home!"
by TexasBillsFanatic on Sep 10, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I'm REALLY not liking this.
I was really looking forward to see how Veek would fair in our new D. Very disapointed that he’s on IR again.
As for Ayodele, i’M NOT LIKING IT! Ayodele’s release was considered by many (including myself) as addition by subtraction by the Dolphin’s last off season. The guy is a liability, and I’m really not liking having to depend on the guy now, even as a reserve. I’m really hoping that Moats lands ahead of him in the depth department.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Ayodele’s only a liability in coverage. So was Mitchell. Not seeing a downgrade here.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that Mitchell had more atheletic ability and was better in coverage. Sure Veek might have been a liability in coverage, but Ayodele is a HUGE liability in coverage, and not that good against the run. THat’s a downgrade in my book.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn't lose Patrick Willis here....
Mitchell to Ayodele might be an upgrade.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
agree
I don’t think we lost anything. Maybe (hopefully) we gained some durability
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
lets not get crazy here K
Akin Ayodele was over his prime a while ago. I actually respect him as a good player. The only reason I can see your statement being true is that George Edwards and Akin are familiar and we can plug him right in and have him teach the guys the system.
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"
Right
But Mitchell is probably past his prime too, and coming off a rough injury. He looked okay, I suppose, this preseason. He doesn’t have any experience in this defense and we’ve all been questioning whether he would be able to have a role this year, and what exactly it was.
Ayodele, on the other hand, has plenty of experience in this system and I think makes for a better backup because of that. By no means is he a great player, or even a good player, but for a backup, I like the experience he’ll be bringing our D.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
But
Kawika was good at timing a inside gap blitz, he was the one LB we had that was good at. Every time Poz tries to shoot a gap, he almost never makes it through, Kawika did more often than not.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But how often will we be blitzing our ILB's this season?
Especially the backup ILB?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
You have to sometimes, to make the zone blitz effective out of a 3-4.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The optimist side of me cheers the signing.
At the very least he’s one more warm body preventing Arthur Moats from seeing the field. 71 tackles and a forced fumbled is pretty decent production, he’s probably about the same skill level Mitchell was.
Another part of me wonders why they don’t comb through the available outside linebackers the way they seem to value having depth at inside linebacker. It seems like we’re content to use Ellis, Kelsay, and Maybin. That’s okay, I guess, but it just seems to be we might be beaten on a lot of outside runs this year.
Blame where you must, be candid where you can, And be each critic the Good-natured Man. - Oliver Goldsmith (Excellent advice)
Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
I hope they feel content using Maybin. There’s a rather unripe investment in time and money with him.
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Song recommendation of the week: Cracker - "Euro-Trash Girl"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And I have no idea where they think the pass rush is coming from.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Divine intervention circa week 3
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
AYODELE RULES
I know nothing about this guy….but I will love to cheer for him….it reminds me of the quote from waterboy….hahaha.
Wasn’t that Billy Madison?
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed it was
you didnt even give me five minutes to realize my major malfunction….i mean Adam Sandler is all us NH folk got!
Akin Ayodel is....
terrible in coverage. The Dolphins were among the worst linebacking corps in the entire league last year, and now we have the unit coach as our D coordinator, and two of the guys that contributed to that terrible team in our rotation. I don’t understand this at all.
Next...
maybe we can raid the Lions for secondary help.
“Do you know who he IS”????
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
He’s no longer a Lion.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
He’s worth millions!
He’ll never live that down :)
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 10, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's too bad.
he looked like a player as a rook too. Way outplayed Whitner that year.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
See your getting exactly where I’m comming from. I really like Edwards as a coach, but I’m not liking that he’s bringing in horrible castoffs from last year’s Dolphin’s team.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And
Who else is available and willing to play in Buffalo?
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
by buffalobacker on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point in the season
everyone available is “willing to play in buffalo” because everyone who is available is looking at sitting on their couch all season.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
OK
And their names are? Basically asking why CBF thinks theres better options than who the Bills signed from Miami. Obviously, anyone not working is a possible addition. Just wondered who this quality player is.
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
by buffalobacker on Sep 10, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i don't know who it is either.
im perfectly happy with ayodele.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
I wasn’t so much looking for a better player as much as worrying that they simply signed Ayodele because Coach Edwards knew him.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So what should we have done?!?!
Made Keith Ellison the top backup!? YIKES!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Touche K, touche. Just wondering what other UFA ILB’s were available. I have the feeling that Ayodele was simply signed because Edwards knew him, not because he was the best available.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't it be both, though?
I might have preferred Matt Wilhelm, but Ayodele is a solid player and will be able to step in and help right away. That’s basically what was needed in this signing.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Personally I would have much preferred Wilhelm because I think that Ayodele is over the hill and has very little (if anything) left in the tank.
Then again I’m not an NFL coach so I very well could be wrong.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s possible that he brought him in literally as insurance for this game and then may be looking elsewhere as the season goes on.
Nope because Ayodele will not be playing in this game.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 10, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ayodele wasn’t on the Dolphins last year….
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
What?
Oh wow, I thought he was with the Broncos all last year. Shows what I know!
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
He was with Miami in ’08 and ’09. Miami signed Dansby, making Ayodele expendable. He then signed with Denver, started two preseason games for them, and then was promptly released. He was with Denver for less than six months. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
season ending IR from a foot injury? the only foot injury i know of that will keep you out 16 weeks is an amputation.
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
Did you see the injury Brett Favre suffered in last year’s playoffs?
That’ll keep you out a for a while.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
http://margaretflanigan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/favre-ankle-injury.jpg
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I've had that happen to me
It ain’t pretty.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah, i’ve had something similar happen to me via a trampoline. I walked around on it for an entire day before I decided to look at it.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: Cracker - "Euro-Trash Girl"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Before you decided to look at it?
Or get it looked at?
If it was so bad that you didn’t even want to bend over to look at it, it must have been bad!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
all i can think of is that clip from tosh.0.
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think what I did was that bad at the time. It turned out that was because it was pretty much numb. I was too cool, out with my friends. You know how it goes.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s ankle swelling that gravity has pulled into his foot, not a foot injury.
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It seems to me that several guys we placed on IR don’t really have season-ending injuries, but the staff seems quick to put them on IR. Do the players still collect their full salary when on IR?
i think they have to settle or something to release them? i recall seeing that they settled with schoumann to ir/waive him
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re correct. They receive an injury settlement, but not their full year’s salary, if I understand correctly.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Do the players still collect their full salary when on IR?
Yes. Only if they waive the player do they not have to pay him. Then they reach an injury settlement.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 10, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It also...
… allows the team to keep the player on the team but gives them flexibility with the salary cap. If you have main starters on the IR, it’s a bad sign. But as a team that’s rebuilding, if you have reserves with minor injuries on there, it gives the team a chance to keep the player (all the PS slots are filled already) but also add other players. If I was a GM and had a bunch of players that I wanted to give a chance to mature but was limited on roster space, I very well might put some reserves who might not otherwise see gametime on the IR if they had any type of injury.
I don’t think IR players can practice though? So its not like they get to double their PS with the young dudes on IR with less-than-season-ending injuries like Batten, Matthews and Easley.
Enjoying my annual three months of optimism.
You’re right—they can’t practice or play with the team. However, I believe they’re still able to do rehab and conditioning work with the team trainers. Plus I don’t believe the IR prevents a player from taking part in team meetings and such. I’m not saying it’s something that should be abused, but if I had a player get injured who was on the fence of making the team to begin with, and liked their upside I would definitely put them on the IR rather than wasting a roster spot on an injured player or just cutting them.
Fair point. Its tough to eat a roster spot for 6 or 7 weeks when you have as many questions and ST deficiencies as the Bills. I just would have liked to see Easley and Batten at least get the reps in practice toward the end of the season, even if they never saw the field. A year is just a really long time to be out of practice and out of the in-season mentality. Hopefully both of them make the most of their time.
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We need a OLB first
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by billsoferie on Sep 10, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
this.
the number 1 thing this defense (and all defenses) need in the NFL right now is a pass rush. I’d say that the #2 on-the-field reason this team has sucked all decade is that we’ve never had a pass rush. #1 being quarterbacking of course.
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by buffalobacker on Sep 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely. Obviously we still managed to suck in 07 when Peters was the best LT in the game and again in 08 when he was only a good to very good tackle. Not that I think our current tackle situation is acceptable (even if Bell turns out to be a good starter), but OLB is a way bigger concern for this team right now.
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Defense
We are sadly lacking a pass rush specialist. Maybin should be that person,but alas he’s a work in progress. Schoebel’s retirement/quitting didn’t help. Unless new regime has some surprises in store our D is gonna be soft, to put it nicely. I’m not blaming Nix, its what it is. If Buffalo was a type of cheese we’d be swiss cheese because we have so many holes. Hopefully Chan can keep the swiss cheese that is Buffalo from getting abused on Sundays!! GO BILLS and Spiller, I’m starting him this week on FF. :)
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by buffalobacker on Sep 10, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
just gonna write this
It’d be nice to have a top atlete next to Poz next year… for this year however, I hpe we can jump to some early leads…
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by killascript on Sep 10, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Draft
You know it will likely be a high pick in next year’s draft. This team is not likely to be any good, unfortunately. Maybe a bit more entertaining, but not very good.
Anyone wish we would have kept Greer and not signed Mcgee
to an extension?
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What does this have to do with Kawika Mitchell?
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he only played in 9 games last year.
So obviously he would have fit in better with this team.
by twoeightnine on Sep 10, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i was just thinking about him last night
and thinking of Mgee.
I was not trying to start anything just thinking about it.
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OK
Just to bring some relevance to the discussion – I wish we had kept Greer AND McGee and forgot about Mitchell. We could pick up any average run of the mill vet linebacker to fill Mitchell’s back up spot as has been shown here today. I know hindsight is 20/20 but…
season ending IR from a foot injury? the only foot injury i know of that will keep you out 16 weeks is an amputation.
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by morpheus123456 on Sep 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Clearly, y’all are forgetting about Schobel’s Lisfranc foot injury from 2008.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
which happened in the fifth game of the season
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
And almost kept him out of training camp the following year.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and is something that would’ve shown up on an xray (if its the season ending version) and wouldn’t have required extra time to diagnose, really.
leave it to the bills to lose players to an injury named for an 18th century gynecologist.
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, are you blaming them for holding out hope that Schobel might be able to play through it? Or that he sustained the injury in the first place?
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
nonono sorry i shouldve been more specific. In the instance that the lisfranc injury is serious enough to require (potentially season ending) surgery, 99% of the time it is readily visible on a basic xray, which they can get at team facilities/stadium. that just makes me question the season ending nature of mitchell’s foot injury.
all hypothetical of course, but if it is in fact a lisfranc injury, and it is in fact a serious enough lisfranc to require season ending surgery, i just find it odd that it took a few days to put him on IR.
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Gailey said this afternoon that the injury was going to keep Mitchell out “quite a few weeks.” Typically vague.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
is it just me or is Gailey more vague than the average coach discussing injuries?
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I think Belichick takes the prize home. Jauron wasn’t much for the topic either. How many coaches are going to openly discuss injuries?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Read the Mile High Report
with the comments about Ayodele’s release and some agreed he was a downgrade from Andra Davis. Funny we now have both. I guess they feel they have alot of depth at the LB and will be moving Haggan inside. Remember him?
by telka on Sep 10, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah, they have a lot of depth, now that they signed dumervil to a new….oh…what’s that?
by quantumuprising on Sep 10, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Was Ayodele the best option out there? Or was it just easier since he is familiar with our D coordinator?
I think he was signed
because he had the coolest name available.
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Mitchell has been a bit of a disappointment
in my eyes. I think getting de-moted (kind of) and now two straight years where he has been seriously injured spells doom for him. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go after a LB next year either in the draft or FA and cut Mitchell when they get that replacement.
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this would be the least surprising thing to happen since Cam Cameron didn't work out.
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Too bad about Mitchell, but I'm glad to hear about Ayodele.
I always thought he was solid for the Phins, and, while his best days are behind him, I think he’ll be good depth. That he knows the system is a plus, not a minus.
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Its tough to determine if Mitchel to Ayodele is a wash. I think Ayodele will be a better backup for Davis, as he’s more of a Thumper, capable of taking on blocks and freeing up Poz. That was not Mitchel’s game at all. However, Mitchel was a much better backup for poz, with additional value as a Blitzer. Both were bad in coverage as everyone is quick to point out. In my opinion i’d rather have Ayodele’s experience in the 3-4 and his ability to spell Davis so that Poz has less trash to float through.
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I’m surprised that anyone is surprised by this. The Bills picked up Mitchell at the tail end of his career and has shown all the signs of an injury prone vet on the decline for the last year and a half. If anything, I’m surprised he made the final cut. I don’t know how Gailey & Co. could have even seen enough of him in action during camp because again, he was injured almost the entire time. I know it’s not positive, popular, or emotionally attached like most of these posts, but it’s the truth. It’s time this team moves forward and improves, not hang onto nostalgia for more 7-9 seasons.
The Bills picked up Mitchell at the tail end of his career and has shown all the signs of an injury prone vet on the decline for the last year and a half.
He had one long-term injury last season. What other effects of aging are you taking about? He’s 30.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just say that I tend to have an eye for these things. :) Most times all it takes is one long term injury to start the down slide of one’s career. Remember Takeo Spikes? If one can overcome a significant injury in the NFL and regain form from where they left off I’d say that’s more of an exception than the norm. And yes, he’s 30. That means if he came out of college at 22 he’s had 8 years in the NFL. That’s a decent amount of time I’d say and would qualify for most as toward the tail end of their career.
Look, I don’t like to see anything bad happen to anyone, especially someone to get hurt. I just find it odd how some on here seem to glorify average at best players, and other times above average players are ready to be hung if they make one mistake. I see Mitchell as an average player at best. Even during his prime years (which I would say happened his last year with the Giants & his first year with the Bills), he was inconsistent. He’d have one game where he was all over the field making monster plays, and then disappear for games on end. Inconsistency drives me nuts. I’d rather have a guy that is consistently bad, than someone like Kawika. Then at least you know what you have & you can ditch them & move on. I personally think it may be time for the Bills to do just that with Mitchell. It’s just too bad the timing is so bad with the switch to the 3-4 and our very thin inexperienced LB crew. Nix & Gailey definitely have a problem on their hands at LB this year, and I think that will be the downfall of this defense. I don’t envy them. But everyone knows they are rebuilding, so we’ll see what happens next year.
Mike Vrabel? Tedy Bruschi?
Aren’t/weren’t they playing into their mid-late 30s?
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Yep
Same with Junior Seau. But that’s where this part comes in -
If one can overcome a significant injury in the NFL and regain form from where they left off I’d say that’s more of an exception than the norm.
And I think that is especially true as players get older. That’s where I was going with the age thing.
We're all forgetting to ask the most important question of Ayodele...
“Will he blend?”
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Would we rather have Chris Draft resigned???
So we did good then. Let’s move on and hope for the best.
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