Bills Drop Opener To The Dolphins, 15-10
In an ugly affair, the Miami Dolphins came into Orchard Park to defeat the Buffalo Bills 15-10 this afternoon. The Dolphins got a 32-yard field goal from Dan Carpenter to open the scoring, and added a one-yard Ronnie Brown touchdown plunge in the second quarter. Rian Lindell scored the Bills' first points of the season late in the second quarter on a long 51-yard field goal.
The second half, much like the first, was marred with ugly play and miscues by both teams. Carpenter added a 43-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. Trent Edwards was finally able to muster some offense as he led the Bills on a 10-play, 80-yard drive capped off with a 31-yard touchdown strike to Roscoe Parrish on 4th and 11 to cut the Dolphins lead to three.
After Miami punter Brandon Fields pinned the Bills at their own one yard late in the fourth quarter, Edwards was unable to move the offense out of that hole. A snap out of the end zone in punt formation gave the Dolphins a safety to cap the scoring. The Bills were able to stop Miami on a three and out, but didn't have enough time to mount any sort of a challenge.
More on the game later.
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there's no way they drew it up to go for 8 yards.
classic trent.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
by JPH on Sep 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
that is exactly where most people are right now…I wonder if Indy’s fan are feeling the same right now.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Um Indy fans have won 12 games in a reg season the last billion years...........
the Bills………..barely can win 12 games over TWO seasons……….
Not even remotely the same.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
indy has more to worry about than us…they are going to fight for a division title while we are most likely fighting for a top 5 pick
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I was kidding...
od course. The negativity really surprised me though, I was hoping we would have something to cheer about, but didn’t plan on it. Hopefully they review the film and take something good away from it.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the most disappointing offensive efforts ever—-and we’ve had out share
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
no the browns game last year totally beats this game…the really sad part: they both happened at home
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by ajred12 on Sep 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really had improving expectations for this one though
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
At the least the Browns game had negative weather conditions. This was worse. Edwards has regressed into one of the worst QB’s in this franchises history, he’s the biggest problem we have.
Bright spot:
Our defense did an admirable job. They were asked to be on the field for a frickin long time. They tightened up, and gave us a shot.
by dinendal7 on Sep 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I will rec'd this.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Solid D, for sure.
"Football's gotta be dangerous. It's gotta be labor and pains." -Deacon Jones
by Undee on Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Defense was good, though I really hope they find a replacement for Chris Kelsay next year. Ugh.
by sabre74kkn on Sep 12, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope they find a replacement for Kelsay in the next week…
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
Ellis on the strong side when Torbor comes back? Aside from one play, Maybin on the field is like giving the offense a power play as well. He’s still well in over his head.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Yeah. I agree. But if he’s ever going to get any playing time to hone his skills, this is probably the time. At least we can find out if he has strengths to play to if we get him on the field some.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well..............
this thread should be fun.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
I'll say it
I don’t hate the safety call. The only other option to me was to punt. The safety call worked, we had our chance. trent just couldn’t get it done. What else is new?
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
yeah but think of all the angry people who bet on the Bills.............
they were covering until that safety.
Think of the GAMBLERS MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I took the money line...
+150 at home…at least Houston won (at +110)
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston was only +110?
thats practically even.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I know...
but there was a reason for it…Im glad I went with them. 65% of the money was on the Colts to cover 2.5 pts
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...........
pretty much the only way you could win with the Texans………was exactly how they won.
Manning threw the ball almost 60 times!!!!! crazy.
Arian Foster should be your best friend right about now.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I had him going in fantasy too!
He’s a bigger dude that I realized
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He scored me 42 points in my league....hell yes
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
My Momma said
if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing.
AS Dennis Miller would say, I am outta here…..
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
Good game guys
Very tough game the Bills played and definitely had me nervous during the whole game…good luck with the rest of your season
by afceast on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
wow...
This team needs so much help on the O. The D Looked like they could do something this year… Lets Hope
Chan "The Dingo" Gailey better find a way to make chicken salad out of Chicken S#it.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Sep 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think that might stick...
“The Dingo Ate The Baby!” – Now we just need to eat the other teams baby next time….
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be interesting to see if Brian likes it better than CHIX
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I heard BG say that CHIX was “breathtaking”…
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
lol......I seem to remember his reaction being more along the lines of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5513mXmQbw4&feature=related
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
That game was a waste of Gus Johnson
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
by radan on Sep 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kurupt
The Bills were able to stop Miami on a three and out, but didn’t have enough time to mount any sort of a challenge.
The clock could have read infinity and it wouldn’t have made a difference, but I appreciate the positive spin. It made me laugh.
all in all the D showed heart…the O showed that they are worse than a pee wee team and ST were better than in the preseason. Honestly this is kinda how I see most of this season going unless the OL somehow learns to block someone on the opposing team
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
Am I the only one who liked the intentional safety call?
Gave us a better chance to win…..
sure..........
if you werent betting on the Bills to cover.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont like it but i know why they did it…but it didnt effect the outcome of the game IMO
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by ajred12 on Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nope i liked it too
i don’t gamble heh
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Punt gets you as much as pooch free kick and you only need fg vs td to win. hated it
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
That’s assuming you can punt it out of there. You’d be kicking out of a shortened punt formation at that point.
"We can't injure our elbows patting ourselves on the back." --Chan Gailey
Understood
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
Two words
“Reality check”
Defense was better than expected. Actually looked pretty good at times.
Sure glad I wasn’t drinking any of that Trent Edwards flavoured Kool-Aid that was getting passed around in the pre-season. That stuff has a bitter aftertaste. Shouldn’t have even been close with those two pick-sixes he threw that Miami dropped.
Up to Gailey to find out how to make this thing work.
by Applsoss on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like how your sig corrects the spelling in your user name...
: )
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I Thought We Fired Turk Schonert
That was one of the worst offensive performances I’ve ever seen, by any team ever. Classic Dick Jauron era football.
Trent was lucky that the Dolphins secondary has butterfingers. Otherwise he might have had 3 picks yet in that game. He looks at his receivers for like 5 minutes before getting the ball to them. He also misses so many deep opportunities that he must need glasses or something.
The game was not as close as the final score suggests. It could have easily been 30-3.
Seriously — I’m not even joking here — should we maybe just punt as soon as the offense gets the ball versus the Jets? We might pick six Sanchez a few times, but there is now way in hell that the offense which took the field today could score versus the Jets.
I just don’t understand this at all. Gailey is supposed to be some sort of offensive mastermind or something. We looked worse this year than in the opener last year. How is that even possible?
What do you call a cow with no legs? ... Langston Walker.
Some are sayin'
solid D… yeah, maybe, but no turnovers, and Kelsay does not belong on the field at LB….
The O again, it’s all on the line… didn’t seem they could keep a pillow away from Edwards in this game… We abandoned the run too soon, and WOs let at least 3 balls through their hands that I counted… The TD drive was a thing of beauty however… All cylinders clicked like they should… No huddle attack anyone??
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
Yeah, that TD drive was great. Thing was, I’d have to watch it again but I think the Miami secondary were all sitting on the bench watching it happen. At least I didn’t see anyone out there in coverage. So that was kind of a gimme.
please.....not the no huddle again
Works fine in small doses, but these daisies are not ready to run it.
man my feed sucked and was 5 min behind. Hope you can hook a brother up next week :-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
went out to watch...
I’ll be back next week, but feeds are gonna be harder to find this year unfortunately… I’ll do my best though…
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
I hear ya.......the NFL is locking that stuff up tight
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Baron Von?
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
haha
nice
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think the OL would be that bad
Even though it was pretty obvious they were going to be bad. I thought, at the least, Bell, Wood and Levitre would be better than last year. They weren’t even close to being good today, and were consistently shoved into the backfield. Wood was getting tossed around by Randy Starks early and somewhat pretty often. That’s pretty discouraging to say the least.
Sigh….unfortunately guys, today was as predictable as the booing.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and to think i am paying DirectTV so I can watch these guys….
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
lol I stopped that a few years ago my friend.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well i have only seen 1 game in the last four years due thanks to ole uncle sam and being in NC i aint gonna get the bills anyway so i wanted to at least be able to say i watched the games and at least attempt to be intelligent on this site…
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
It's fun to watch the other games
and the actually competent teams
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I thought Incognito was pretty solid
Oh yeah . . .
steps to a better season
Step 1 trade for a left tackle
Step 2 release cornell the screen door
Step 3 invole more 4 wide sets with parrish and spiller in the slot
Step 5 drink a lot I mean a lot lot
by Gpluehri on Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just don't know if I can drink that much
No amount of beer goggles would make Trent Edwards look good.
What do you call a cow with no legs? ... Langston Walker.
I'm way down on:
-The OL
-The playcalling. Felt like with a traditional running game called we could’ve won this game.
by dinendal7 on Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My question...
…why was Trent in the shot gun the entire first quarter?! They didn’t run a running play until the 5th or 6th offense play.
is Poz injured?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He had a sack…yeah, real average.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
you mean the second sack of his NFL career?
yep. he is absolutely average, and that’s on a good day.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
He had 8 tackles (only Whitner and Florence had more) and a sack , and he wasn’t even in half the game. Really?
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
he gave up a big play in pass defense, missed a couple of tackles, and got hurt again.
it’s really amazing to come up with 8 tackles when we literally overhauled our entire defense to make him more comfortable.
Again, he played fine today, but that doesn’t make him a good player. He’s a bad pass rusher, he’s an average tackler, and he’s too slow to defend the pass. He did a better job of shedding blocks today than he has before in his career, but that doesn’t make him special.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
He was pretty poor today
Tackles don’t really tell you how a LB plays…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He looked uncomfortable. Time will tell. If he doesn’t pick it up, we’ll be looking for a new WILB.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so... is he?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 12, 2010 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Didnt play the rest of the game..........
no update as of yet, Im sure in the post game Coach Gailey will get to it.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Biggest Problems I seen
Edwards was looking shaky and doing his usual Captain Checkdown passes….however I can’t blame him too much when I seen his entire O-Line getting shoved into him in the backfield….I mean seriously I knew the line was going to need work but I didn’t think they’d be THAT bad.
Defense was a nice surprise after a poor looking pre-season they seemed to def. step up and even had a sort of pride or swagger out there…loved the D today
Nothing good I can really say other than at least I’m not a Lions fan!…..anybody else see them get screwed in Chicago today on that TD toss to Calvin Johnson
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
yea that was a BS call that cost DET…I am pretty sure it was obvious that he caught the ball
Where else would you rather be than right here right now - Marv Levy
Horrible
I didn’t even know that was the rule…..the refs didn’t really blow the call they just went by the book but the rule is a joke
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Time for the
“We Want Locker!!!!! chants
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
or a LT...
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
LT
was more valuable
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
I hope not
Unless we get the 3rd QB on the board….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
My analysis
Offense – Well they said Chan was unpredictable and he didn’t disappoint. I thought he would ram the ball but i guess he has more trust in Trent than anyone else or Trent really fooled him in the preseason. Trent played like a rookie by locking on to receivers and not looking off or for a 2nd option (Isn’t this fundamentals that was always preached about) Multiple times receivers were open. The last 4 plays were more absurd, 4 chances to just chuck it and let the receivers battle it out and he just holds the ball. I’m done! The offensive weren’t too pretty themselves but I give them some credit because there were times that they did give the QB time to throw. Overall – D I think it was Nix who said “you gotta have to bottom out before you get better”, so get ready for more pain from this group.
Defense – Played with discipline, fire and passion. As i stated in an earlier post these guys play as a unit and that’s there strength. No super stars so they have to and they do it well. Hope Poz is ok, but he’s getting injured alot which could be a red flag for the future. Defense made the game worth watching and kept the team in the game. Overall – A
Special Teams – Nothing major bad or good. 1 for 2 on FG (which could of been the 3 pts. to tie the game) but they looked average Overall – C
Coaching – I’ll keep it simple….defense prepared, offense not prepared. Defense executed, offense didn’t execute. The tie breaker is special teams which makes the Overall – C
The FG they
missed on was 63 yards…c’mon cut them some slack.
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Grades
Defense A-
Offense F
O Line: Barf
Spiller looked fast, but he was hemmed up in the backfield like a fly in a bottle.
What do you call a cow with no legs? ... Langston Walker.
i think that's a little generous.
The D didn’t force any turnovers. They played well, but A should be reserved for when they go make plays.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Yes I was...
considering how often and how long they were on the field, I had to give them an A even without turnovers.
when you hold a team to 13 points..........
you’re doing a damn good job………………Most weeks that a win.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i guess.
I mean, i was going to give them a B. I think they played well, but A is picking sanchez off 4 times or whatever..
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Here we go draft pick, here we go!
What do you call a cow with no legs? ... Langston Walker.
by Munchausen on Sep 12, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Notes
1. What was all that offense play calling, we looked like a bad college team, it took 5 seconds for the rbs to get to the line of scrimmage.
2. Somebody explain to me the safety call. If we could have found a way to make a 1st down we would have had 1 40 time remaining with 2 timeouts and 50 yards to go for a chance to go for a field goal. Instead we had the ball with 27 seconds left with no time outs and 80 yards to go needing a td. WHAT THE @#$#$
If we could have found a way to make a 1st down
There’s yer problem
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He was playing probabilities. The defense was playing much better than the offense, so he felt with 2 timeouts that a 3-and-out was possible. Plus, he wanted the opportunity to make an onside kick (go listen to his press conference if you don’t believe me). All of those situations are better odds than getting 4th and 10 from the Bills’ one foot line. Turning over the ball there would have sealed the deal.
The O-line was non existant
i say we lose out and draft well
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Safety call
I don’t quite understand the call to intentionally give up a safety.
By doing this what is gained? About 30 yards (punting from the 20 instead of the back of the end zone). But by doing that you force the offense to score a TD instead of kicking a FG. So you have to move the ball an additional 30 yards on offense.
And why wouldn’t you offside kick from the 20 after the safety? Best case was getting the ball back around the 20 with 30 seconds left and needing to score a TD (unless you force a fumble or block a punt).
Should have just gone for it, and if not, onside kicked the free kick.
Oh a positive note.........
Congrats to Perry Fewell………helping the Giants D stifle the Panthers running game….and getting a win for the G-Men.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
simply pathetic
An overall pathetic performance disguised as competitive football. The talent level of the Oline just is not there. If Trent’s performance is any indication of things to come he better make sure that his medicine cabinet is stocked with pain killers, a nurse is on duty around the clock, and his long term health care insurance premiums are up to date and paid in full because it looks like he is going to be asking whether or not there are vacancies available at the local nursing home.
I rather dye trying than just give up….. As always thats Bills football.. I cant wait for the season to be over.
you said
you would rather “dye” which means you want to dye a shirt or something?
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by atlantalove on Sep 12, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I rather dye trying than just give up
really?
I cant wait for the season to be over.
Because it seems like you’re giving up…
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
by JPH on Sep 12, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol touche'
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yessir.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts
Playcalling was HORRIBLE. Run first, most second downs and then sprinkle in a bunch of short passes/screens. Nothing too exciting, not enough wildcat, not enough imaginative run plays, etc.
The safety punt call – who cares… game was basically over by then… But I think we should have gone for it… But I REALLY don’t care.
I will have to review the game (if I can stand it), but I didn’t think the o-line played as miserable as everyone else. Yes the pocket collapsed more times than not, but I though Trent still had time to get rid of the ball, and I still think he held onto it entirely way too long. I am not saying the O-line (especially the tackles) played well by any stretch of the imagination, and I was disappointed in our guard play, had higher expectations.
Trent Edwards does not deserve a roster spot after this weeks game. I don’t have to explain that any further.
I will keep screaming that Nix has done a horrible job. As evident in Cornell Green and our lack of a QB. Spiller will not have the chance to be a factor until our QB and O-line play is better.
George Edwards gets the game ball, for our amazing D play today.
Sum it up… Labor Pain count = 1; Baby count = 0.
SHOW ME THE BABY!
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 12, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
based on Chan's history
Nothing too exciting…not enough imaginative run plays
That’s what we should be expecting.
Also, isn’t this game Modrak’s fault? :)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I didn’t see what you saw with the playcalling. It looked to me like they actually were passing on first down at the expense of actually getting their running backs in a groove.
I thought Trent was very up and down. He had that one beautiful drive near the end of the game with the TD to Parrish, but the last drive was just a giant pile of crap. To me it looked like he actually did a better job of feeling pressure and extending plays with his feet (because he had to). However, he made some absolutely crap decisions. I’m less concerned with the checkdowns than the would-be interceptions. If Miami’s secondary didn’t have fingers made of a margarine-like substance, that final score would look WAY worse. I’ve been hoping that Trent’s decision-making would look a little better with Gailey at the helm, but I haven’t seen it so far.
As far as Nix, I maintain that you judge coaches on games and GMs on seasons.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a Catch 22 in my opinion
It’s not a coincidence that when we ran the hurry up with 4 wide we were able to make some completions. I still believe a large part of our passing problem is receivers not getting open in our 2 receiver set, yet we usually can’t get more into a pattern without protection completely falling apart.
Until the line improves in recognition and switching, or another receiver steps up, we will continue to see this problem regardless of QB.
I find it comical how so many people (not you necessarily) blast Trent for holding the ball too long AND always checking down. It’s a necessity most of the time. I thought he did well only taking two sacks in light of the pressure. I wish it was as simple as replacing one component, but I fear it will take multiple fixes before it becomes an average passing game.
by lonestar_ak on Sep 13, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He almost never ran on first down. The first 4 plays of the game were passing plays from the shotgun, and then he ran on the 5th play, then he threw again on the sixth. I was shocked by how little running the Bills did. Chan never gave the guys a chance to get going. Lynch looked good in the one series I saw him do anything out there.
god bless us all we need to really understand that chix did a poor jobs of addressing are immediate needs ol and ol
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
He’s had 1 draft and 1 FA to try and do it…I’m sure you could have done a better job, right?
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
THIS HARD AND THEY ARE MAKING IT HARDER THEN IT SHOULD BE...
yeah it’s funny how you miss understand what I’m sayin I was saying it was obvious to the entire league and loyal fan base that the O-line needed to be addressed immediately not next season, not next draft, not next off season and not next week….and that was before Brad Butler retired it’s painfully obvious to me at least that chix misjudged his teams personnal…wake up guys and think with your head not your heart. I want the bills to succeed but they made a hughe mistake
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
NJBillsfan you don’t have to be a jerk…i never said I could do a better job I’m jus sayin what I think
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
I’m not being a jerk, but the dude has a lot of crap to get straight with this roster. To expect him to be able to do all of it in a month or two is absolutely ludicrous. Give the man some time.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
what I'm saying is....
that the O-line should have been priority #1 and the offensive line should have been the first thing to address properly
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
Who’s to say it wasn’t? But bringing a guy in that the Front Office doesn’t think will be a good player just to satiate the need wouldn’t have helped, just set us back. If you need an example of that, look no further than Mike Williams.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
I don't know how you can say...
that there wasn’t players available that won’t have improved this horrible line
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
Like I mentioned before, Tom Donahoe thought Mike Williams would help the line, and we all know what an epic fail that was. Just because they are hyped by draft gurus doesn’t mean they are any better than what we currently have.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
the draft is not the only way to build a team there were plenty of opportunities to improve this team threw trades and free agency for chix to think that this is the proper way is not only ignorant it’s foolish just look at what parcells did with miami a couple years back he turned a 1 win team with no stability at QB and line position into a solid football team that competes with everyone they play now
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
why?
good teams have great qb’s not great lines. QB is the #1 priority, now and forever.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
YES
you get a great QB then you can find a solid lineman….he’ll make that lineman look great Mike Gandy was let go by Buffalo he went on to be a star blocking for Kurt Warner
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Those were immediate needs
but more importantly long-term, building block type needs, unfortunately.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The Safety
The logic behind the safety is understandable.
The odds of Miami scoring a field goal after a punt from your own end zone are pretty high. So they’re going to get 3 points anyway. Heck theres a fair chance the punt is blocked or a pass is intercepted if Miami DB’s can actaully catch a pass. The odds of Trent throwing for a 1st down on 4th and 10 only 99 yards form the end zone are about 99:1.
The safety actually worked strategically. It got the offense farther down the field and gave them a 1st down. The fact that the offense couldn’t take advantage of it is another point.
I remeber this happening about 30 years ago, yeah they sucked then too. Not a good omen.
Remember what record they finished the season with?
1-13?
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
On the flip side....
I actually didn’t think Miami played great ball either. Their O-line was that much impressive. It pretty much played out as a divisional rivalry game, which are many times close.
Miami is going to be pretty bad this year
That offense kind of stinks, but will have its moments. They lack any big play ability, which will hurt them from time to time.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
how much time does trent need to throw a deep ball let recievers make plays!?
How much time does Trent need to hold onto the ball before he throws it? I mean really this is ridiculous, thats why i was and am pro Brohm. Id rather watch him stink up the joint than Edwards be Edwards, Brohm atleast got rid of the ball with the swiss cheese line he had. I JUST started drinkin trents cool aid again and puked it up, trying really hard to respect the GM and Coach for their decisions.
blknites hit it on the head with the Edwards.
Trent played like a rookie by locking on to receivers and not looking off or for a 2nd option (Isn’t this fundamentals that was always preached about) Multiple times receivers were open. The last 4 plays were more absurd, 4 chances to just chuck it and let the receivers battle it out and he just holds the ball.
Defense was very impressive. Maybin looked decent! Kelsay can not tackle.
We have the same problem as last year, offense can not put points up, we need a new decision maker taking snaps under center. You have 3 plus options on pass routes, why doesn’t Trent’s head turn for another option? You cannot totally blame Gailey on this disaster at qb, unless you wanna argue that Fitz and Brohm should of had equal time as well with the 1’s in camp.
We all must keep in mind, Gailey and Nix are not under center, Trent shows in preseason and practice he has the moxie so they roll with him. They cannot control his onfield decisions mid play. Its sorry but its true. So sick of blaming play calling and oline to make up for Trents lack of release. Atleast bomb it last play and show you care.
by sketchydave on Sep 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll admit
This is why I’m proFITZ. Because he’d bomb it out there more often than just hold onto the ball.
agreed 110%
last years training camp my girls father said they should start fitz, he will throw in double coverage. i argued that and boy was i wrong
good game; about what I expected
i KNEW YOU GUYS WOULD KEEP it close. Expected a bit more out of both offenses though our defense played exceptionally well minus one lapse on one drive
Laces out!
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-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
pal,
I hope don’t get too confident in your D. That bills offense is horrendous. I don’t mean to take anything away from your defense. They played well, but that doesn’t prove much, because our offense is atrocious.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Well, I liked it...
Except for, you guessed it, the safety call. I really do think Brian could get it out of there, I think that if he couldn’t there’s a great chance he falls on it (same outcome) and I think that they’d get the ball as far.
Trent DID show some signs of life, but … I’ll snap-judge it here. Really should have picked up an LT instead of CJ, because the line was for crap and it was why he couldn’t get it done. The D was awesome today, though… almost constantly on the field yet they only give up three scores, only one TD… when Shawn comes back they can run a couple of H-back formations and give Demetrius as much help as he (desperately) needs.
Definitely Dissapointed
The preseason really had me fooled. I thiought the O had turned a corner. I really expected to see > 20 points this game. Back to reality in a flash.
anybody who thinks the OL is the problem should tune into Green Bay.
Aaron Rodgers has an awful line. He still moves the ball.
Edwards just isn’t a starting NFL quarterback.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Let’s be clear. Only certain types of quarterbacks can make plays no matter the quality of their line. Just because you can start in the NFL doesn’t mean you can make your line look better. Rodgers, Manning, Roethlisberger. Those guys do that, albeit in different ways. Edwards isn’t that guy.
Official ledge-talker-offer of the Buffalo Bills.
by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
is cornell green awful. He can’t block anybody. he shouldn’t be an NFL starter. Too much shotgun football for my liking. We couldn’t run on em anyway. But I would have rather seen Trent under center and Freddy running btwn the tackles with Lynch and using Spiller on outside runs. No timing with the short passes. OL gets pushed back, throwing lanes are non existent for Trent, and then you add in WR’s that can’t get open. Give Miami credit, their CB’s were covering us up real good. I didn’t see much separation from our guys. We need Shawn Nelson badly. Big Target to give Trent an option over the middle. Can’t rely on a rookie, undrafted FA in Nelson for that.
"Show me the baby: - Buddy Nix
by MARVelous on Sep 12, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's amazing
Regarding Cornell Green, how is it possible that the fans know that this was a terrible signing, and have been saying so from the get go? I find that most disturbing.
Not using Fred Jackson more this game was criminal. 4 carries and 2 receptions, seriously Gailey? Just disgusting. He’s proven time and time again that he can churn out yards and first downs behind this terrible OL, yet he’s barely given any touches today. That better change next week, although next week’s game is going to be over pretty quickly.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 12, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was well enough to play
Run the ball, catch passes, block….That’s not an excuse for me. Also, I didn’t even notice a cast. If he had one on, it was pretty small.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yeah i figured
he wasn’t in game shape or something.
but you’re right, it seemed more like that was the gameplan, in hindsight.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Exactly
I expected a great deal more running in this game. Maybe he was thinking Miami was weak in their secondary, which is probably true, but you have no line or QB to accomplish what you want. Go with your strengths! Hopefully, this game should be a wake-up call to Gailey with how bad the situation is on the offensive personnel.
Miami has a solid secondary
And we don’t have good WR’s or pass blocking, or the QB to take advantage of any average or poor secondaries.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
well maybe I shouldn't have said weak....
but i’ve heard reports where they’ve had some issues, whether true or not is another story.
Note to the scouting department
crank that college QB scouting up another notch!!!
17 rushing attempts
unacceptable. I knew we were in trouble when they started the game out throwing the first 3 plays then punting. To have any chance at all we need to run to set up the pass.
Never confuse movement with action.
~Ernest Hemingway
Yeah, that’s the big head scratcher for me too. 14 runs (15 play calls with one holding penalty) and 34 passes (40 play calls with 3 sacks, 2 scrambles and a holding penalty). What was Buffalo thinking?
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
Was Chan trying to be clever or did he think they couldn't run the ball against this team?
those are the options, right?
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
i think he was trying to ‘outsmart’ them. he must have thought, “no way they gameplanned on TE throwing twice as much as we run”
Never confuse movement with action.
~Ernest Hemingway
by NolaBillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Some disorganized thoughts; I really, fully understand now why an NFL coach says “I have to go back and watch the tape.” I do too.
- Time to scrap the Pistol, Chan. God, what a garbage formation, and what horrid execution out of it. It puts undue stress on all facets of our offense to try to get all tricksy Hobbit like that.
- I suspect Trent’s getting lambasted by y’all, but other than a few missed throws, I thought he executed what Gailey gave him as best he could. Line breakdowns, penalties, and just a brutally horrid offensive gameplan really derailed his chances. Yes, he needs to get better, so please don’t accuse me of making excuses.
- Gotta pick one runner and get him hot.
- Top three corners were excellent.
- Chris Ellis was solid. Looks comfortable at OLB. Want to see him continue to start when Torbor gets healthy, and then use Kelsay/Maybin at DE in 4-3 nickel looks.
- Keith Ellison is such an important reserve for us. He played really well today.
- I’m blaming mostly the coaches on this one. I have zero clue why Gailey chose to attack Miami’s defense the way he did, but boy, was that a steaming pile of crap.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 12, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions
That pistol formation is such trash
Greg f’in Robinson ran it at Syracuse. The fact that Gailey is trying it in the NFL is downright scary. I can’t believe what we saw today.
How were the WR patterns from your vantage point, if you watched them? I know many times on TV we could see them running 3-5 yard patterns still. The TE’s and RB’s had their typical 0-2 yard patterns. Did we run that many deeper routes and were any of them open?
Gailey really needs to be more imaginative and creative on offense. Today was disgusting and everything I’ve read bad about Gailey in the past. He’s pretty conservative and doesn’t take many creative chances. We certainly saw that out there today, other than the ballsy TD throw. That, I loved.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 12, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I dont know about you........
but all I heard this off season was how he was an offensive genius.
He turned Tyler Thigpen into a stud quarterback using said pistol.
He was able to lead Jay Fielder and Kordell Stewart led teams to the playoffs……..
HE WAS THE NUMBER ONE CHOICE for the job……………….
:-)
Glad to help.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yep, I had to rec you buddy.
Sadly, Chan hasn’t done anything of importance yet to make me feel any differently than I did the day he was hired.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not ready to bail on him yet.....
Yes I hated him game plan for this game but this is his first game here so I’ll hold out till about midseason to get a better feel of what he’s doing. Who knows, maybe just maybe he could turn things around. The important thing I want to see is improvement and development this season. Because if things still are looking the same by the end of the season he’s not doing his job.
Gailey really needs to be more imaginative and creative on offense.
I disagree. Run the damn ball. Get your fullback and your tight end in there and play to your strengths.
Saw a lot of shorter routes as well. Not sure on combinations or anything like that.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 12, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.............
quit trying to be smarter………….just be tougher!
Isnt that what he said he wanted to do?
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree on the Trent Edwards observation
I was at the game today…Trent played decently. Granted, not a good performance, but def not as bad as most people want to say.
Playcalling and offensive gameplan in general were pretty bad, IMO.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you
still be saying that if Miami’s DBs hadn’t epically failed at converting the 2 gift-wrapped pick 6s Trent sent their way?
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 12, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent Point
Recd
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
1. I don’t understand why he thought that would translate from Thiggy to Trent. They’re very different players.
2. STOP MAKING EXCUSES BRIAN!
but seriously, the only drive where Trent looked good was when he was hitting WIDE OPEN guys on every pass, besides the conversion to evans.
3. Yep.
4. Yep.
5. I really liked what I saw out of Ellis. He looks like an actual pass rush option.
6. Our pass defense was better with Ellison in the game, to my eyes.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
I agree with everything except Trent also....
I don’t think it’s decent holding on to a ball on the last 4 plays and not give the receivers a chance to win a game. I don’t think that’s decent at all!
FACT
Heading into the 4thQ, in our last 17 games, Bills are within 7 points 15 TIMES.
15/17! Someone smarter than me should be able to use this to make us better in the “W” column.
The O line is unbearably putred which makes the QB look worse then he already is.
I’m embarrassed for all Bills fans. I’m down here in Texas and I have to go somewhere to watch the Bills and I’m already disgusted. Next week we go to GREEN BAY——-God help Us…
Anyone hear Chans post game comments?
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
yep
Not much to hear…
Never confuse movement with action.
~Ernest Hemingway
by NolaBillsFan on Sep 12, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We did get a
“I’ll have to go back and watch the flim” though.
Ah memories………..
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Positive
Mckelvin had some great coverage.
Lynch actually looked good….granted it was a run.
34 pass attemtps to 14 runs will not win the game though.
Well that sure sucked.
Lifeless at the Ralph today. Us poor fans on third down… loud as hell and no result on the field.
Offense was pathetic. Spiller?
Refs blew two calls. The obvious pass interfirence on Evans and the shot to the head Edwards took
"CRUSH AND DESTROY" - abayrade
Couple random thoughts....
Mark down a win for the “build the offensive line” people today….The Bills went into this game with:
- 1 RB taken 9th overall (Spiller)
- 1 RB taken 12th overall (Lynch)
- 1 WR taken 13th overall (Evans)
- 1 RB who lead the league in yards from scrimmage last year (Jackson)
- A 4th year QB (Edwards), a 6th year WR (Parrish)
And all this veteran skill accomplishes 166 net yards of offense. (50 yards rushing!)
Is it safe to say you can have all the talent in the world at the “skill” positions, but if the line can’t block….well, you put up 10 points?
God I feel sorry for Edwards. The guy gets no time to throw, his own fans LOVE to jump right down his throat at the slightest hint of a mistake, or, god forbid, a “checkdown”. In the meantime, his receivers aren’t getting open, and the pocket is always collapsing on him. The guy doesn’t even make a ton of dough (compared to other starting QBs) to put up with this crap. I never thought I’d say I don’t envy a professional athlete but…
Thank God for our defense. Loved the play of Leodis, Florence, Ellis, Poz, Whitner, etc. Kept us in the game when we had no business being only one td down.
Chan Gailey did Trent Edwards (and the offense in general) no favors today with his formations and playcalling. Like I said before, we have 3 talented RBs on this team…and we rushed for 50 total yards. inexcusable.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
Is it safe to say you can have all the talent in the world at the "skill" positions, but if the line can’t block….well, you put up 10 points?
The Colts, Cardinals, Packers, Patriots, all of these teams from the past few years disagree with you.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Did you really see Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Kurt Warner
see the same level of pass rush as Trent Edwards did last year? I didn’t. Not saying their lines are filled with superstars, but they aren’t exactly filled with 7th round draft picks who started playing football 5 years ago (Bell) and guys cut from other teams with terrible o-lines (Merridith)
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the lines play better because Manning, Brady and Warner are great at reading the defense before the play.
Manning, Brady, and Warner’s lines had a guy who delivered the ball immediately and recognized every blitz coming his way. These guys don’t.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
don't get me wrong, the line is bad and needs to improve,
but they’re not the dealbreaker
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
No, that is true.
I’m not saying that Trent Edwards is some good to great QB…I’m just saying that you can keep drafting RBs and WRs all day…but at some point, that can only take you so far. You need to build the o-line…and yes, you need a good qb, too. I def recognize that.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Jets
They have a great line and Sanchez still threw 20 ints…….I agree with the idea that a great QB can take a bad line and make it look like a solid line…..a solid line can’t make a QB great however finding that great QB is a very very tough thing to do and huge gamble especially early in the draft Colts got it right taking Manning over Leaf
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Doesn't the simple fact that the Bills started a lineman last year (Merridith)
that the Packers CUT show that their line is better than ours?
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
um it means their right tackle is better.
it says nothing about the middle of the line.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Their right tackle and his backup.....
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ha. i guess it technically means their backup RT is better than our backup RT...
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
We shoulda rushed the ball 50 times............
instead of 15 or 16 IMO.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
completely agree. the game ihas been over for hours now
and I still couldn’t tell you what the offensive “gameplan” really was trying to attempt
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
no sympathy
The guy just has no awareness. If his first option is covered, he has no confidence to look elsewhere, except for a back. He doesnt even realize to give the receivers a chance on the last 2 series. A sack hurt as much as a pick.
- 1 RB taken 9th overall (Spiller)
- 1 RB taken 12th overall (Lynch)
- 1 WR taken 13th overall (Evans)
- 1 RB who lead the league in yards from scrimmage last year (Jackson)
- A 4th year QB (Edwards), a 6th year WR (Parrish)
Sorry to post again, but how is having a 4th year quarterback an indication of talent at skill positions? He’s awful. Also, why is Roscoe Parrish an example of talent. He’s never been effective from scrimmage. And Freddy didn’t lead the league in yards from scrimmage, he led the league in total yards. They’re way different, and it’s less impressive as evidence of elite offensive talent.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
In citing Edwards' and Parrishs' years experience
I was attempting to show how they are veterans, not rookies
Yes, yes, you are right on Jackson…but he was still a 1,000 yard rusher last season while splitting carries.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 12, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
- 1 RB who lead the league in yards from scrimmage last year (Jackson)
KO return yards don’t count as ‘from scrimmage’
As in Pistol Pete Marevich ?
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
I DISLIKE HIM TOO...........
BOSTON CHOWD HEAD!
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, well, if it’s Pistol Pete, I suppose I can deal. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 12, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Building the O-Line
When rebuilding a team, you have to look at each position vs. the players available and say “how can my team get better over the long term?” Nix didn’t feel like drafting one of the remaining O-Linemen would have done it nor, trading for one would have done it. Whether or not you agree, it’s what he did.
And we can cite examples of other teams all we want. Yes, Green Bay has a bad OL and a great quarterback, and Manning and Brady make their OLs look better than they actually do. But there are also teams with great OLs and quarterbacks that can’t move the chains either, like the Jets. So really, we can’t plan on one making the other better. We have to look at the positions of need and the players available and ask what makes the team better right now. I just think that examples of other teams and what they do have very little bearing on what the Bills should do.
Also, it’s only the first game. Lets at least wait until the season’s completely slipped away before looking for people to blame for the disappointment that is the 2010 season.
3 Headed Monster cant run
With Captain Checkdown, it doesnt matter how good our backs are. Defenses will continue to stack 8 in the box while having LBs blanket our RBs. Once they take away the checkdown, there is nothing for Trent to look at. He looked awful.
It will run if you keep running it .....
and running it , and running it , and running it…..sorry can’t type how many times you should run. But the point is by the second half their D will be so tired until finally you pop the big one.
Well, i guess i see one positive
there’s no way Gailey can watch this film and decide to try the same stuff again next week, right?
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Kepp your fingers crossed....
But I tell ya, these 2 guys, Gailey and Nix, sure are full of surprises. i dunno what you’re gonna see next week
Let's hope....
Jauron never seemed to make any of these adjustments. Hopefully, Gailey isn’t cut from the same cloth in that regard.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
A good take away
There’s plenty to be upset about and I see a lot of negativity. I get it, believe me, I do. But I’m going to use a post here to point out one bright spot today (as I saw the game):
Chris Ellis. Way to go kid. The guy was quieter than an afterthought for a few years and has finally found a position that works and he looks like a good fit. Good on you, Chris; keep it up.
"We can't injure our elbows patting ourselves on the back." --Chan Gailey
Let's hope when Torbor returns
Ellis is starting opposite him….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
God Kelsay looked out of place. It was just terrible.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 12, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
good thing we didn't take mike vick
he’s looking awesome in philly today.
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One man wrecking crew.
I know we're going to have a big challenge to do better than what we did last year, but I feel we have the team to do that. We want to win with numbing repetition. - Jim Harbaugh
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 12, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
haha i said that in another article
alllllllll those people out there saying he is a horrible QB and can’t throw can’t read defenses shouldn’t even be allowed to play…..yet the guy goes out there and changes the attitude and momentum of a game……it’s simply amazing to see how a QB who believes in himself and his abilities can go out there and just take control of a game…..Edwards just doesn’t have any confidence left in himself, his line, or his receivers
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Green Bay’s secondary isn’t that amazing of a group. They get a lot of turnovers because many of their games are shoot outs, and opposing quarterbacks throw deep and often. They aren’t that great at containment.
your saying
Charles Woodson and Al Harris are not that great of corners??? Woodson is arguably the best in the league certainly up there with Revis and Nnamdi, and Harris is still a very solid corner……also their LB core is very good including Clay Matthews a guy who last year had 10 sacks as a rookie I don’t buy the comment that the Green Bay D is not that impressive
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Interior O-Line is weaker than weak
When you’re in a shotgun (or pistol) formation, there’s no way that a lineman should be able to bat down the ball, as happened to Trent at least 5 times today. Even Wood was repeatedly pushed back 2 or 3 yards on every down.
As for the tackles…we knew how bad they were going in. Green was the worst of the bunch, Bell was below average as well.
Chan actually had a not so bad gameplan in this game…quick short passes were the only way to gain when the line is as bad as it is and can move nowhere but backwards. It’s the worst I’ve seen a line play since the Cleveland 6-3 game.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Sep 12, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Much to Do About Nothing
We have seen the Bills for what they are, a cobbled together bunch of average players – with significant weaknesses too large to neatly patch up. The offensive game plan was good, lots of plays designed to try and take some pressure off of the inadequate line – but hey the O-Line guys gotta block. TE’s release is way too slow. The receivers aren’t getting open and when they are, the QB is dodging lineman. The defense played well the second half. Missed bunches of tackles. But it’s a process. On to game 2.
Go big or go home.
Good game guys
Your secondary is great but not much else going for you, you’re just lucky that this game wasnt a blow out as it should have been.
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ehhhh
not too sure about that the dolphins offense didn’t look as bad as the Bills but they certainly weren’t blowout worthy they had their fair share of problems too
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