Packers Blow Out Overwhelmed Bills, 34-7
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
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PrintMoments of competent offense and competitive professional football had the Buffalo Bills losing just 13-7 at halftime to the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. Any shot at a Bills victory slipped through the outstretched hands of receiver Steve Johnson in the third quarter, however, as the Packers capitalized on the ensuing interception and scored 21 straight points to log an easy 34-7 win.
Packers linebacker Clay Matthews logged three of the team's four sacks (a figure that seems very low) on quarterback Trent Edwards, who threw for just 102 yards in defeat. He had two passes intercepted; one was a deflected pass through Johnson's hands, and the other was a should-be-reception ripped from the clutches of Roscoe Parrish. Edwards finished with a quarterback rating of 37.
C.J. Spiller did not log a carry until two minutes remained in the fourth quarter. He finished the game with 26 yards on offense. Marshawn Lynch got the start, and the bulk of the work (17 carries, 64 yards) at running back. Lee Evans did not catch a pass, though he did draw a pass interference on Buffalo's lone touchdown drive (capped by a three-yard Fred Jackson score). Buffalo's defense, which once again kept the game close for a time, fell flat on its face in the second half, allowing three scores by Aaron Rodgers - two through the air, and one on the ground.
Buffalo is now 0-2 on the season and looking at a trip to New England next Sunday. Welcome to the second of many, many very long Sunday afternoons this year, Bills fans.
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I think it's time to dump Spiller from my roster.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Why dump spiller?
He got 20 points in my league this week.
Player/Team/Pos. RusYds/TD RecYds/TD RetYds/TD Fan Pts
C.J. Spiller (Buf – RB) 3 0 23 0 174 0 20.00
If he keeps returning KOs I just may put him in my starting lineup.
your league adds ST stats?
interesting.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not crazy, but...
It can be annoying. You have to roll with the punches, I guess.
yup hes on the bench after today till lynch is gone at least
It seems like Uncle Jesse and Cooter have a plan. I wish Waylon Jennings was still around to be narrator.
OR Fitz..or even Brohm for that matter. Its obvious that none of these guys are good NFL starting QB’s. Trade for Tony Pike who has some upside. Trade for Brady Quinn who has more upside then any current Bills QB. Trade for Brodie Croyle, Chase Daniel, Matt Flynn….ANYONE
None of those trade-for’s you mention would be better than what’s on the roster now.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Brodie Croyle
would go on IR answering the phone when they called about the trade.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wouldn’t be the first player to hurt himself jumping for joy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK81Ej5hm8s
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
Thats gotta be a Gramatica.........doesnt it?
Im at work and this is blocked……..Im just taking a guess.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course. I love watching that video because I always forget that it happened in the first quarter of a game. It’s not like he even won it in OT or anything. Hilarious.
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
well played.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake Locker come to Buffalo baby!
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Sep 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
As am I.
I’m pro-Mallet
"Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." - Marv Levy
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Sep 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You guys are like college QB lemmings
lol, no offense. Ya’ll know what I’m trying to say right?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Obviously I want Foles
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I know the whole California qb thing but...
Andrew Luck looks like the real deal, I want one.
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 1:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
born in D.C
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson's drop
Why was CBS harping on it excessively? He almost had his head taken off two players earlier and he dropped a 4 yard pass on 3rd and 8 with a defender bearing down on him…hardly a factor in the game’s outcome…no worse than a holding call on a punt return.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Overblown or not, he’s got to catch that pass. Or make it so that the defender doesn’t.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd down passes in the 2nd half of games you’re down need to have a chance to go for a first. The blame rests with the putz QB making that read. Johnson cost us some field position. Edwards by far and away the leading factor in not having a prayer in this game. It’s sad that CBS was too timid to point this out.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
True. There should be better decisions made about where the football should travel. I guess everyone else may have been covered. Lee Evans is not a game changer for this team. That is sad. Sad and unnerving.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee Evans needs to stop being classy and start pointing fingers publicly. As one of the few players on the team with talent, his opinion carries weight. He knows what we all know, but he has a better view of it. It’s time for him to open his mouth.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
I never said Edwards was good, or that he even threw a good ball there. Steve’s still got to catch that. As far as re: CBS, not sure what you expect. Randy Cross was involved.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it was intercepted and the turnover was on hm.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Randy Cross and that was the only subject they had to discuss at length about the Bills?
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Cross was marveling.
When we got that time consuming scoring drive, saying this is what the Bills have to do, then we hit the second half, and go right away from it. Game Over.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent is HORRIBLE
It is very true that Johnson should have caught the pass. HOWEVER, the clueless wonder (aka Trent Edwards) should NEVER have thrown the ball to him. It was a double slant on the left and the coverage bit on the inside route (Johnson) leaving Parrish WIDE OPEN down the seam. THAT IS WHERE A REAL QB WOULD HAVE THROWN IT. The guy has ZERO vision. On the last play of the game, with the announcers saying no one was open…ugh, the clueless wonder strikes again and runs for 2 yards. However, if you review the film you will see a wide open receiver right down the middle. The defender was behind him so any pass would result in a completion or pass interference if the defender tried to break it up (by going through the receiver). It was great positioning by the receiver, wish I knew who it was. A well thrown ball, one we see 31 of 32 starting QBs complete on a regular basis, would have been completed for a first down. What is worse, imo, is that when Trent started his fail run for the loss, the same receiver followed him and remained in a great position make the catch and pick up the first down. Trent was looking at him the entire time and chose not to throw it to the open receiver….yet again. Say what you want about the OL, its bad but not THAT bad. Rogers had a horrible line last year and led the league in passing yards. Say what you want about the receivers, they are not the best in the league, but they DO get open, they just don’t get thrown to. The bottom line is; when the bullets fly, Trent is a scared little dear. He needs to go, I would rather have Fitzpatrick in there. Check the film and confirm or refute what I saw. I deleted the game, honestly not worth rewatching. I re-watched this junk 16 times last year and once already this year.
very true
One aspect of the failed Trent Edwards Experience that is rarely discussed is his lack of feel for playing QB. You can’t quantify this shortcoming with stats; you have to watch it week in and week out to truly appreciate it. This lack of feel for the position plagued JP Losman and Rob Johnson as well. It is a condition that can undo even very talented players. When it plagues someone like Edwards with only minimal physical talent, you get one of the all-time NFL clunkers in the territory of Will Furrer, Stoney Case, Andrew Walter, Drew Stanton, etc. That’s where Buffalo’s cupboard is now. It’s a shame they’ve let it go on this far, but that’s what you get when you go cheap and atgtch your fortunes to wishful thinking based on nothing tangible at the game’s most important position.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Good points Buffalo110
I made the same conclusion immediately upon watching the game. And said so within the game thread post. Unfortunately, I had to argue with a guy who believed that Edwards didn’t have time to look to Parish and that’s why he threw to Stevie. Which is ridiculous when you review the tape and see that Roscoe was right behind Johnson on a double slant. Good to know you see what I saw.
I also believe that if Trent threw to Roscoe on that pass, it could have gone for 6. What a different game it could have been. Such small details make such a big impact in this game. Roscoe was WIDE open in the slot. And I have no idea what could have possible gone threw Trent’s mind on that play to not throw it too him.
Well, at least Chan Gailey failed with tried another strategy.
"A buddy who watches a lot of football and is not a fan of any team was watching the game with me on Sunday. After watching the last quarter he turns to me and laid it out flat: "Your QB sucks." Live in an outhouse long enough, you stop noticing the smell." - oompaloompa
We use that strategy last week
and we are 1-1
at least it got me out of disgusted mode and back into realist mode.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So he tries Fred Jackson next week? Sounds good.
"A buddy who watches a lot of football and is not a fan of any team was watching the game with me on Sunday. After watching the last quarter he turns to me and laid it out flat: "Your QB sucks." Live in an outhouse long enough, you stop noticing the smell." - oompaloompa
freddie played too
He scored the TD
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Welp.......
I will say that the offensive gameplan overall was a bit better than last week. Although featuring Marshawn instead of Freddy is baffling……
Having said that……Im still waiting for all the “teaching” and “coaching” that we heard so much about to show up…..
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Jackson should be the feature back. All day and night. He’s money for that the team.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills showcased lynch to the packers and rest of nfl.
Don’t be surprised if he leaves. I’m sick of the trade talks to but hey good for him.
I feel horrible for Lee Evans.
Trade him for his own good.
I love you Lee but Lossman is not around to get you the ball, there’s steve johnson and running backs to throw 3 yard passes to now on third an 8.
by sketchydave on Sep 19, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder
If Lossman has made his second pilgrimage to the ufl?
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
never said i support lossman but!
the announcers reminded me in on two great facts.
1. the Bills went with Edwards because he was more conservative with the ball, throwin the shorter passes cause Lossman threw deep too much.
2. Last qb in Buffalo with a 300 plus game was Lossman
never said i support lossman but!
well that was obvious from the ss.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point.
Choosing between Trent and JP,
Is kinda like choosing if you want to eat arsenic, or cyanide for dinner.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Definetly Arsenic
It’s cumulative.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Showcasing Lynch?
With all these runors and with Lynch listed #3 on the depth chart, it really feels like he was being showcased to me as well. I think it would be great to rid ourselves of him for 3 reason:
1. We need to focus on one lead running back so he can get into the flow, week in and week out.
2. We need to focus on the development of Spiller. Spelling Jackson and returning KOs is great for his development on getting used to the speed of the game, especially with a very weak (litertally) OL.
3. Getting some starting talent at a position of need is more important than having 2 starting RBs and a 3rd down option RB. One of the RBs is going to be wasted.
I have heard the bills want a starting OL. I have heard that AJ Hawk is on the table as well. Anyone find it possible that the Packers were showcasing AJ as well? He played 0 snaps on D last week. He was in there from the start in this game. What would having another talented ILB do for us?
even swap
i’d make that trade. i’d also see what i can get for lee evans, b/c he is too talented to spend his career in this mess.
Lee is making more money than he has ever earned on the field. He’s a leaderless deep threat. When our team needs him the most he performs like he did today.
thrown to once where he drew the penalty and you’re going to blame him? you look at any star receiver and what’s one thing almost always said about them? You have to get them involved in the game. I’m sorry, but even the most talented receiver is going to get frustrated when they’re working hard to get in a good position but not thrown the ball. the difference with Lee is he has the class not to call out his QB in public for that.
He played 0 snaps on D last week. He was in there from the start in this game. What would having another talented ILB do for us?
Aj is a liability against the pass. He’s getting 10 million dollars this year, and he’s basically an Andra Davis, I’ll pass.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
You don’t think they could have been “showcasing” Marshawn for a trade? Wouldn’t be the first time in pro sports. And I have a feeling this regime is more clear about what this season is than us fans.
Which is the fact we are rebuilding. So why not take 12 touches away from Freddie in the hopes that Lynch plays all out in an effort to build trade value to thus….get his arse out of Buffalo.
I made mention of this in a different post......
not this one, but I believe that’s (the showcasing) is a possibilty.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
In my opinion, the Bills not giving Spiller plenty of carries is an embarrasingly bad strategic decision. Did Buffalo honestly think that they could grind out drives with Marshawn going 4 yards a pop and that Buffalo would score enough points that way to keep up with Rodgers and Green Bay? The only way that Buffalo was winning this game was with big plays. A defensive TD, a big special teams return or who knows, maybe their home run hitting 9th overall selection could break a big TD run. What was Gailey thinking there?
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
That doesn't bother me as a much.
I would rather have seen 2 possessions of Fred and Marshawn.
Then a possession with CJ in for a change of pace
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Spiller needed 60+% of the carries. It was the only way this offense was going to score more than 14 or so points. You saw how this offense looks against a good defense when they’re trying to drive down the field 10 yards at a time. It just doesn’t work for this group.
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
I think you have a better chance
Of spiller peeling off them big plays when you use him as a change of pace, they get used to the angle they need to take for marshawyn and fred, then spiller comes in but the angle of pursuit changes.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I knew why Lynch was getting all those carries
He’s giving this offense nothing more than those 4 yards at a time. He doesn’t have any big play ability and once the Packers started to clamp down, he couldn’t really do anything. I still think Jackson and Spiller is the best way for this team to move the ball on offense.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's hard not to think they were showing him off to move him.......
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it. If that was their objective, they failed.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Were they expecting him to look good?
Same guy he always is….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He's not gonna be a stud behind this OL.....
but behind another?
Eh who knows……someone might try to get him or a 4th or 5th.
That’s not much for a team like Green Bay……..they dont need him to be a savior, just servicable.
Which he is.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a poor fit for our team
With a terrible OL, he still dances too much and shows poor vision. When the hole is there, and he actually hits it hard, he’s tough to bring down. That just doesn’t happen as much as it should.
I don’t know if he’d be that good in GB. They don’t have a great OL either, and we saw today that they don’t exactly open huge holes either.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
he did get a lot of yards bouncing to the outside today, those were his best runs.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If a team trades for a player based on one "showcase" game
then they have the most inept front office in the league.
/checks Bills roster
/didn’t trade for anyone on the roster
by twoeightnine on Sep 19, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
still
we were getting first downs, moving the chains and eating clock and keeping rodgers off the field, usually run blocking gets better as the game goes on.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sick of this 3 back crap.
We need to focus on two backs. Give Marshawn and Freddy the majority of carries and just throw Spiller in the slot until we’re down to two RBs on this team that matter. It’s obvious Roscoe can’t handle the duties.
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that what happened today?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I agree with the two back concept. I just don’t understand why Spiller wasn’t one of those backs. The Bills have two RBs that are solid 4 yard per carry guys who break the occasional 10 yard scamper. The Bills have a passing offense that combined with a 4 yards a rush running game, is completely able to sustain drives with any consistency. Why wasn’t Buffalo giving the ball to the one runner on this team who can provide instant points. It’s the only way you stick with a high powered offense. Why did these guys draft Spiller if they aren’t going to play him when we really need to put points on the board?
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
by kaisertown on Sep 19, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, this.....rec'd
Why did these guys draft Spiller if they aren’t going to play him when we really need to put points on the board?
“Stupid is as stupid does”
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
let's see....
4 yards per carry, X 3 downs, equals what??? Help me out here folks!!! I’m somewhat tunnel vision inhibited…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
My opinion is that Lynch was featured as trade bait. Truly don’t think this regime believes we’re contenders. So why fake it. Gailey may simply be trying to see exactly what resources he has at his disposal. As he already saw Spiller in the preseason. But he did not see Lynch. And as a plus, Green Bay may have just seen enough of him to make a more attractive trade offer because of it.
One game isn't going to change anyone's opinion of Lynch
This is his 4th year. Teams know what he’s capable of and what his limitations are. All this showcasing makes no sense to me….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Bell & Green
should change their names to Turnstile 1 and turnstile 2
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If they don’t improve, they’ll be the new combined Bench Mode.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, c’mon. We can get more creative than that. :)
I nominate Tito Santana and Juan Belmonte.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to the plan
to base this offense around Spiller? As Brian mentioned, he didn’t even carry the ball from the line of scrimmage until two minutes were left in the game? What is the thinking here?
We can only surmise he’s not ready for prime-time.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He does look AWFUL out there on offense
Guy dances more gingerly than Lisa Turtle doing “the sprain”
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 19, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for SBTB reference.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW....Yes, love this comment.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
Never thought I would see Lisa turtles name in here. If I could Rec I would
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Sep 19, 2010 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
probably on a mobile device
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be why
cant rec on mobile phones yet. but now that i am back it has been done.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5
by silverstreak3k on Sep 19, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh well
At least the “local” team is turning it around. Chiefs 2-0. Local radio will be positive.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thank god for DirecTV
I turned this game off after Buffalo’s 1st offensive series (Run, Run, Sack). I followed this game thru the Red Zone Channel and Twitter. And it’s quite obvious I didn’t miss anything. How this team can justify starting Trent next week is beyond me.
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He’s the best they have. That’s what we’ve been told.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We've been told lots of things
Doesn’t mean any of its true
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
My bread went moldy today. It’s the best bread I have. Doesn’t mean I’m going to eat it. I think I’ll go buy some new bread, thanks. :-)
Yeah, I know you’re not really advocating this. But if this is the best we can do at the most important position on the team, we’re nowhere. Same place we’ve been for 10 years. It’s going to be a looooong season.
"...and dance by the light of the moon!"
My bread went moldy today. It’s the best bread I have. Doesn’t mean I’m going to eat it. I think I’ll go buy some new bread, thanks. :-)
So Ralph Wilson needs to clean out his fridge?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Brian has to be happy.......for his fantasy team
3 Best TD’s over 200 total yards of offense.
Mike Vick 2 TD’s passing no INT plus 40 yards rushing…..
Sucks for whoever is playing Brian this week in fantasy.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
I play sireric this week.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m up 137-76 ATM in that league. So yeah, I’m pretty pleased. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Jahvid Best
15 freakin’ garbage points. I’m going against him in my money league, and he put up 45.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I, on the other hand, love Jahvid Best.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I need more Arian Foster and Hakeem Nicks mojo
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Hakeem Nicks is the new Plaxico, sans firearms.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trent Edwards
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Aaron Rodgers
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Maurice Jones Drew
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Marcedes Lewis.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Jarius Byrd
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Leaf
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
John Elway?
heh.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
or even better.......
same school.
Drew Bledsoe.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright Alright you win this round.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
wait are we talking about Saftey Coy Wire or LB Coy Wire?
Either way……..Byrd or Clay Matthews!
Heh
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
are you saying he's a bad player?
because he’s not……..dude has about 2000 yards in 2 years and 20 TD’s on the ground.
So…..um yeah.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and he has a career avg of 4.8 ypc
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers
Proving once again it’s about the overall organization/roster and not just the QB, OL, or DL alone.
Steelers 2-0 with Dennis Dixon!!!!
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He got hurt....
Charlie batch finished the game………..of course creating 6 turnovers helps too. :-)
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And completed 11 passes for 25 yards with 2 fumbles.
by twoeightnine on Sep 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well they didnt need him to be great obviously
they still won.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Stan corrected
Charlie Freakin’ Batch.
Steelers – absolute great organization.
Bills – Eh.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
100% agree.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
2 games into season: What players added since last year contributed and how?
Cornell Green – Starter at right tackle…but not playing very well. (understatement?)
CJ Spiller – Not much production.
Andra Davis – Starter at LB….been solid. unspectacular.
Torrell Troup – Played a few snaps…haven’t noticed him.
David Nelson – Few catches, nothing big.
Arthur Moats – Played a few snaps…haven’t noticed him much.
Is that it? Anyone I am missing?
Safe to say we are not getting much help from offseason additions so far….
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
Dwan Edwards - Starter at DE...Playing solid, unspectacular
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to look at Corey McIntrye and Johnathan Stupar as new additions. McIntyre wasn’t used until the last game of the year, and Stupar didn’t make the team.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Corey played 15 games last year
and 11 the year before. Stupar played 5 games last year and 14 the year before that.
by twoeightnine on Sep 19, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
As bad as our team has been
It is amazing we could not draft one starter. I wish gaily would play all of our first rounders so we could see how bad our front office is
by wab2 on Sep 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gronkowski
is going to be an absolute stud.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There’s a reason he’s on my roster’s bench.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
FA's
Any optimism I may have had about the Bills season is shot. And the problem here is that while success breeds success, failure also breeds continued failure. I see posts about drafting for this or that position. Problem is there are too many gaps to fill with a draft. The FO needs to be more aggressive with FA’s. While I originally questioned signing Leinart, I’m now wishing the Bills had gone after him. With the rare exception, drafting a QB means waiting years for them to mature and develop. Would Leinart be a long-term solution? Probably not. But it would have given us a QB that’s both better than any on the current Bills roster, and has more potential upside than any of them. It also would have given the Bills time to develop a younger QB out of the draft.
Another BIG thing is the Bills need to be aggressive on the FA market for tackles. If they want to draft some young stud at tackle—great! But signing a proven OL and giving the young guys a chance to develop sounds like a much better option than thowing them to the wolves.
No confidence = no competence.
Lynch and Jackson ran well today. When the offensive game plan centered on the run, the Bills moved the ball and the Bills scored. And Edwards approached competent. And confident. But Gailey pushed that, and seems desperate to force Edwards to be that guy. He isn’t.
The interception broke Edwards and the team followed him. And that is the Bills problem in a nutshell. Effective leaders do not let setbacks completely destroy themselves and everyone around them. I like him as a guy and he’s had a bad go of it, but he doesn’t seem equipped to get to the point that mistakes don’t weigh on him. Fitz seems to have that attitude, but doens’t have the skill set to be consistent.
Lynch plus a 4th for McNeil, and then draft one of the QBs next year.
Packers fan here.
When the Bills ran, the defenders overpursued. Had they kept at it, this would have been a much different game.
Buffalo will definitely have my backing next week against the Patriots. I hate New England.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Had they run Spiller a bit early on, maybe. Lynch isn’t going to stretch any D wide and beat them.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
congrats
Just so you know, I admire Green Bay (although I don’t root for Woodson since he robbed Peyton Manning of the Heisman in a bizarre media fueled campaign) and will be rooting for them in the NFC this season. What you watched today is what we have watched on offense for four seasons now with #5 running the show. Enjoy NFL football this season. I’m hoping I get to watch some in the near future.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Well, if you guys gets ESPN,
There’s Packers-Bears from Soldier Field next week. Battle for first place in the NFC North between two 2-0 teams.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
In an alternate universe....
Whitner has a pick 6 instead of a drop in the first quarter. The Bills don’t commit either penalty on the punt before the final drive of the first and Lindell kicks a FG. Buffalo goes into the locker room leading 17-13. Steve Johnson and Roscoe Parrish actually catch those “INTs” cleanly, meaning Green Bay likely doesn’t get 2 TDs…call it 10 points instead on two longer drives that eat some clock. Buffalo loses 30-17, maybe 30-27 if the offense could have kept just pounding the ball.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely.
The game was actually better played than the Miami game. Score doesn’t reflect how the offense improved and how the defense made Rodgers really work for it.
This week
I at least didn’t want to throw things at the tv set. Miami was winnable, this one we would have needed a bunch of turnovers to have a chance.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Edwards looked worse. Regressed if you will. Like an accelerated geriatric regressing to childhood, putting the pampers on again.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent Edwards is Benjamin Button
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
You sure he's not Brad Pitt?
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s definitely not Keanu Reeves.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
hes definetly justin bieber
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight what you saw, in the ring"
I don’t know much about that Bieber kid, but I assume he’s pretty successful. That’s hardly the same thing going on here. =)
Oh and Tom Brady looks like his father.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
"Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." - Marv Levy
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Sep 19, 2010 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And clay matthews feet turn to stone, and bell and green are given go go gadget bionic arms so bell and green have some kind of chance to block him
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
My alternate reality included Matthews wreaking havoc, just a couple of things Buffalo could have done to not hurt themselves.To my way of thinknig drops and penalties are even worse than getting beaten by a better player—the drops and penalties are self inflicted wounds.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Be accurate in your remarks. Bell had a pretty good game once again. He was not responsible for the big breakdowns in protection today.
Very true. The right side is an entirely different story, however.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That last sack matthews got he blew by bell like he wasn't even there.
bell didn’t get any sort of puch, it was one, two-bell taps him, three matthews unloads on trent
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad
just looked at the replay, it was Jamon meridith
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Which should tell you something. The difference in pass protection on the left end between Bell and Meredith was like day and night. I’m hoping that Brian or someone will look closely at the game and give us a sense of where the problems were on the o-line. My impression while watching the game was that it was on everyone but Bell (and of course Levitre is off the hook since he left early with an injury).
For me this game.
The biggest slap in the face was watching us get zip for pressure and them score when Bulaga went in.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
Well, we got no pressure before he went in, either.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But
they weren’t scoring as much, Bulaga could have really helped us :(
He made one false start, and the only semi play I saw him make besides that was he let Kelsay catch him by surprise and bull rush him a little once, but stopped him just in time and Rodgers completed the pass after that Kelsay was ineffective against him.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
80% of the tackles in the league would have helped us. I’m not going to get worked up about one particular one.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 20, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh well
Last week Edwards threw two INTs that Miami couldn’t hold on to. This week he gets tagged with two that should have been caught by our guys. Karma.
Was Matthews posing on top of Edwards after his second sack? I didn’t like that.
I still like Johnson even after the alligator arms. I think he’s going to be a player.
I like the game plan of running Lynch and Jackson. Problem is, if that’s all you’ve got . . . that’s all you’ve got.
No pass pressure is killing us.
Green Bay should still make a trade for a running back if they want to go all the way. Jackson didn’t look like anything special.
Not allowed my opinion
Why am I not allowed my opinion on this site? Is it owned by Ralph Wilson? Does the NFL monitor it? Do my 1st amendment rights become void here? How long before this post is removed?
by Pietro Sirianni on Sep 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
There's a guideline for community activity........
Why cant you just express your opinion without violating the conduct policy?
This is not infringing on your 1st amendment right……no one is stopping you from speaking your mind…….
But you arent “guaranteed” your freedom of speech on a privately owned website…..
Make your own!
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t the one who took down your fanpost, but saying that the Bills would lose to most college teams isn’t really an opinion, it’s venting. It’s taking out your frustration with a bunch of hyperbole at the expense of everybody who reads this blog and enjoys the sense of community.
Do my 1st amendment rights become void here?
Yes.
SFC: Were you excited about Clausen dropping to the Bills pick? Or did you have a feeling that the Bills wouldn’t pick him anyway?
Galliford: Both, like when that hot chick waves at someone she knows standing behind you.
Way too many holes to be fixed next year, first pick or not. O-line is horrible including Wood and Levitre (maybe they’ll grow). D-line…average at best but consistantly no pressure. Receivers…I guess just too young (if you’re not going to throw to Evans). Trent is freakin awful, with protection or not. I’m embarrassed for him. Spending huge in FA to try and fix one area (any area) is our only hope plus first pick in the draft and then trading up to try for more talent. I’ve never givin up on this team but I’m ashamed of that performance today even if there was one or two half decent plays. Two years from now we may have the beginnings of a competitive team. Man oh man am I frustrated right now.
Make some trades
Lynch to GB for a LB or WR. Evans to Chargers for this disgrunted LT. We dont have enough draft choices next year to fill the holes. We need a QB with our first pick, which should be in the top 5. We need to get the OL familiar with one another ASAP
I’d be a happy man to see an unhappy Vincent Jackson make his way to Buffalo.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll worry about that later. They need more help at WR than we’re really prepared to discuss right now. No one can get open.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Housh and Clayton were available for a song deep into training camp. Nix didn’t even sniff at them. What makes you think they’d make a move at Jackson? Nix must think Stevie and Roscoe are the answers.
Nix must think Stevie and Roscoe
After today’s game, Nelson should get a shot next week for Johnson’s spot.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Not enough
I still don’t think that would be enough. We got smoked everywhere today. Even if the O-line is familiar with each other but plays terrible what does it accomplish?
by TOfireman on Sep 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bell
He is seriously overmatched. Matthews blew by him on one sack like he wasn’t even standing their, bell’s punch on that play looked more like a tag you’re it .
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
correction
It was jamon meridith after review.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell
How can we not see the difference between #69 and #77? This same thing happened last week when Meredith subbed for Bell. I hope Bell is playing better because then they can focus on the rest of that line in the draft or through trades.
Hopefully
Bell is playing a whole game soon.
I am looking at the position not the numbers during the game on TV because it happens so fast in real time. when i look at it again on highlights then i noticed it wasn’t 77
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems to me that Bell has been the most pleasant surprise on the o-line this year. So far as I can tell he is playing significantly better than last year. If this continues, we really won’t need to be thinking about another starting LT. The least pleasant surprise has been our two guards, Wood and Levitre, who seem to have regressed. I assumed they would be solid in their second year, but so far that hasn’t been the case, especially Wood who may be having more trouble than expected coming back from his injury. Jamon Meredith has also been a very bad surprise — he is playing worse than he did last year. I’m really puzzled by all of this backsliding. Is it related to the new offensive scheme, which they are still learning? Or the o-line coach? It’s a mystery.
No doubt
Jamon Meredith has also been a very bad surprise — he is playing worse than he did last year
I feel bad that chan is substituting him in for Bell. Jamon is looking horrible, and people like me who are watching in real time on TV don’t realize he has been substituted in and rip on Bell in the blogosphere when it is meridith that is the guilty party.
Levitre didn’t play much so he gets a pass today. Cordaro Howard when he came in was a pretty good run blocker from what I could see on TV, not so much pass blocking, I could go ditto for Wood.
Hangartner, I didn’t watch much.
But there were plays in pass protection I saw all 5 get beat.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
watching Tom Brady against the Jets
He will once again destroy the Bills next week. He handles everything the Jets D throws at him with ease and they have a pass rush.
Brian...
I honestly didn’t notice Maybin today. How did he perform?
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
I didn't see him either.
I think our two posts speak volumes.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not trying to start anything. I did miss half the game driving home from my triathlon. I was genuinely curious if he was out there a bunch today. It would have made sense for him to be on the field often.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont want to bash on him........
but I didnt see him at all in the first part of the game…..he does show up in the stat book as having a solo tackle…..im gonna assume it was on special teams.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna have to go back and take a look at the film. :D
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The agony never stops for you does it Brian?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Yeah, I already seriously regret promising y’all intricate, hard-to-find stats.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt blame you if you went back on it.........
none of us would wish that on our worst enemy.
And contrary to popular belief………..we kinda like you around here.
I would hate for you to go away because you drove yourself bat-crap crazy.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Thats why they pay you(In imaginary money) the big bucks.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
For the Bills
They are always hard to find stats…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Why can't the lockout begin right now?
We need it badly to salvage this season. Let’s get the lockout over with now, load up on the draft and in FA next year, and then fast forward to next season.
I think we’d all take a losing season over a lockout. I know I will any day of the week.
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
Song recommendation of the week: The Twilight Singers - "Flashback"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 19, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
They already have a ton of cash invested in Kolb.....
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Bills right now.
I’m just so frustrated…………………..
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Overwhelmed
on every front. This was the visibe difference between a good team and a bad team.
Welcome to Buffalo, Chan. Prepair to have your reputation in the league drug through the mud and destroyed.
Uh.....okay....sure.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If they are going to rebuild they need to do it for real
no more playing at rebuilding. I have not advocated trading Lynch or anybody else. I preferred that Nix keep the talent they have an add to it, but that seems like it won’t happen soon enough to make a big difference (i.e. waiting for draft picks to get really good). Trade Lynch and Evans too. Their is no QB in BLo to throw him the ball. If something decent could be gotten for him, do it. And Lynch too. Players and picks.
yep
couldn’t agree more. maybe maybin can benefit from a change of scenery too. who else do we have that another team would want (except our cb’s, i’d keep them). see what brohm can do, flat out release edwards and his 2.2 yard per attempt pass (that has to be the worst stat i’ve ever seen).
I'm actually not depressed.
I expected to get the crap kicked out of us, and we did. Know what else we did? For a bit we ran the crap out of the ball against one of the top 5 defenses in the league in their house. Until the coaches arbitrarily moved the burden back to Edwards and SJ missed the catch, the Bills were outplaying the Packers. To me, that’s on the coaches. The run game was working. It was easing the pressure on Edwards. It wasn’t a big-play plan, but at 13-7 you don’t NEED the big play. I would have taken 28-21 from this game and considered it the biggest moral victory in 10 years. I just don’t understand the pervasive need for cleverness in offensive gameplanning. When you are pounding, pound. Until you can’t pound.
Ah yes.......
When you are pounding, pound. Until you can’t pound.
TWSS
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
no way
I would have taken 28-21 from this game and considered it the biggest moral victory in 10 years.
The biggest moral victory in the last 10 years was when beat up on NE in the first game with bledsoe.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that was pretty badass
probably the best game of the decade unfortunately
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't that an actual victory?
I meant 28-21 Packers.
Yes it was a victory,
but Mortale was so low at that point it counts.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i counted one pass to lee evans
and he was fouled for 40 yards or so.
never again would evans even sniff the ball
now that’s pathetic
Exactly!
Here’s an idea—let’s not throw to the #1 receiver as part of the gameplan. If the Bills are playing the Jets with Revis against Evans—ok. But this was just pitiful. Get Evans a quick hook or slant or screen or anything! Just get him in the game!
Instead
we should throw to him when he’s playing against the Defensive MVP from last year?
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 19, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree no way he’s covered like a blanket the WHOLE game.
by FJackson's Faction on Sep 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
that would make sense
why he had so few touches. Where did you get this info?
by ccthemovieman on Sep 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I just heard Gailey's presser....
He made no mention of this………he just said that the plan was to use Fred and Lynch more, and just use CJ as 3rd down back, and then try to work him in more as the game went along.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Chan Gailey presser on WGR
“We were a bad offense in the 2nd half out there”
“We’re still trying different schemes/combinations to find something that works”
“Had several shots called for Evans today – couldnt get them to him, for whatever reason”
“Levitre – had to keep him out the rest of the game, not bad, but bad enough to keep him out of the game”
“We can be a good football team…….but we’re not”
“I dont know if I have the answers now, I thought we would be better by now, but we’re not”
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
- Yes they were
- Running the ball worked!
- Because TE was too scared to throw it his way
- Fine—lets not kill our OL with injuries for a game the Bills wouldn’t win anyways
- No joke! Why not stick to plays that were working instead of pushing for something new?!
- Chan, you lose my confidence with that comment. Thinking June Jones would have a better and more creative offense than Chan’s. Heck, Oakland released Colt Brennan. Reunite the two of them in Buffalo. Think even with his sidearm release he’s better than TE.
Heck yeah June Jones would!
I was watching a tutioral Jones gave online the other day….he said he only uses TWO formations, but they give the WR’s the option of 6-7 different routes per play based on what the defense gives them…..
The QB usually only has to read one or two defenders in order to know where to go with the ball.
And based on his success in college……it works.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't we try that type of system
With Mularkey/Gilbride?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Run and Gun?
Uh…..perhaps facets of it…..but it wasnt a pure Run N Gun offense.
However I will say the last time we had a good offense……Kevin Gilbride was the OC.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referencing
The receivers altering there routes at the LOS. And yes that was our last good offense.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
It's not so much altering at the LOS......there's altering after the snap too....
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh ok got ya
I haven’t seen this DVD yet. Now I want to.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
It wasnt a DVD........
lemme see if I can find you a link.
It was just a quick minor tutorial.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Much appreciated.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Gilbride
I still hate him,
He who would throw 90%+ of the time on 3rd and 3 or less and mostly out of the gun to make it even more obvious. HE ruined that season by being so predictable.
What an idiot.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
still......
compared to what we’ve had since then………..he’s still the best.
And he was the OC on a SB team not to long ago.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched Brennan perfect June Jones’ system when I lived in Hawaii. You didn’t see RB’s with 100+ yrd rushing games, but you had them picking up that many yards with quick shuffle passes (AKA Kelly/Thomas). Take what they give you is the name of the game. Everyone loves their fantasy stats, and with a June Jones system, the QB would run them up.
Jones' teams had some really good stats in the NFL....
especially when he had Jeff George running his Falcons team……but I think Jones likes the college game more.
Pressure is low at Hawaii and SMU……….he’s getting paid well………
Im just a big fan of his………and his offense.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
atleast that offense would bring some excitement even if didnt always succeed.
It’d be fun to watch here for our Bills.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly—when’s the last time you were excited each time the Bills offense stepped onto the field? I used to look at each and every drive thinking the Bills could score. Now? I’m simply left hoping they can do more than go 3 and out. Run and Gun is where they should go. Shuffle passes would keep the D honest. Adjusting routes to coverage means primary receivers have a better chance of being open. I’ll go back to Colt Brennan in June Jones’ offense. He went through his progression when the primary target was covered. But he often could also stare down his primary target the whole way and still get the completion because of the way the system works.
There's a reason Steve Spurrier flopped in the NFL......
you need to be able to run the ball consistantly to win as well….
Now if someone could use the RUN part of the Run and Shoot successfully, then they’d be on to something.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
"I thought we would be better by now, but we’re not"
Props for honesty.
It's hard to improve in the NFL.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Hard, but it's his job
The personnel guru who pushed some eyebrow-raising players and the head coach who doubles as the offensive coordinator deserve some serious heat for this unacceptable offense. this team doesn’t have to contend this early in the regime change, but the product needs to be worlds better than it has been on offense so far…answers are needed and admissions of poor judgment are overdue.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Ha
I was going DJ there. Sorry.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Haha
I should have picked up on that…his pressers always left me feeling like winning in the NFL was virtually impossible to even hope for…he was a very pessimistic head coach…or as he liked to say about just about everything, “I’m not optimistic.”
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Its all good
Just another week in the life of a Bills fan.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
As I said on Twitter – the Detroit Lions, right now, are exactly what the most optimistic Bills fans hoped the Bills would be under Gailey.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's valid
I would take exciting games regardless of outcome for the next 14 weeks in a heartbeat at this point.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
And a productive, absolutely thrilling rookie speed back…
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and not mention Fantasy Stud.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What's that?
Electric rookie RB with the QB throwing it all over the field? Yeah, that would be fun to watch.
(sigh)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Jauron is not the answer.....haven't we proven that over and over and over and over.......
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
At least we got turnovers.
Now we have a crap offense and no turnovers on D.
At least we will draft top 5 next year, sometimes you gotta hit bottom, before you can move back up, since there is no where left to go.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i say this every week
I really hate being the Trent basher but when I’m watching qbs around the league get rid of the ball I get depressed. Look at matt schaub now, look at Brady, Vick, Rogers, they get the ball out. I mean really how much time does trent need this is ridiculous and as a Bills fan who supports Gaily and NIx this offseason I’m bummed we have to sit through these trent non playmaking actions. I’d rather see someone we haven’t seen fail, fail instead of relive the same problems.
I feel trent might be too good of a student to the coaches, he does not improvise or take any risks trying to thread the needle.
Get rid of the damn ball.
We ran very well by the way
by sketchydave on Sep 19, 2010 5:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wish I was done with this team
I’m not. I’ll be there next week. However, that was not a game. IT showed how far away in talent the Bills really are, with little chance for improvement.
Maybe, just maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll be bad enough to get a true game changing Tackle at the top of the first round.
Who will then go unsigned through training camp and be a non-factor next year.
Guys on WGR kinda talking about Wilson and his role....
and they are damn right……..Wilson needs to figure something out, or get the eff out of the way.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
It's has been Wilson since...
He fired the BEST GM ever to work in professional football after a 3rd straight superbowl appearance by the Bills. The reason I read was…"Polian wasn’t fired because he wasn’t doing a good job, he was fired because he didn’t get along with treasurer, Jeff Littmann, for reasons unknown to all except those close to owner Wilson, Littmann and Polian himself. Funny, isn’t it? He was fired because of a dispute with the guy that controls the purse strings and the guy that approves or denies the opening of those purse strings? No need to wonder what it was over. I, and MANY others, have said it is Wilson’s cheapness that keeps this organization in the cellar. This is just further proof. The team needs to be sold to local interests, that will keep the team in W. NY and will build a new stadium in Niagra Falls. With a stadium there increases our TV share to 5th most in the league.
It's hard to argue that Wilson is cheap when the last few years they've been in the top 12 in players salaries the last few years.
He’s not being cheap………but the team isnt being smart with their money.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
I’m agreeing with norcaliangelsfan a lot today. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
You say that as if its a bad thing.
LOL!
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a bad thing
It’s just rarely that we’re on the same page.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Not sure where you get your information, but...
Over the last decade, the one in which we failed to make a single playoff appearance, the Bills averaged 18.9th (out of 32 teams) most expensive payroll in the league (2000-2009). Only 1 year were we above 12th. 1 year we were 12 and the remaining were 16th or worse. The list is: 2009: 12; 2008: 16; 2007: 4; 2006: 30; 2005: 17; 2004: 19; 2003: 25; 2002: 22; 2001: 28, 2000: 16. And this information can be found at: http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2000
So, your arguement does not hold water as your statement does nto match the facts. That being said, the cheapness I am really talking about is not in the player salaries, though I think I made a fairly good arguement to support that. That being, “If you spend a below average amount unwisely, you don’t make it to the playoff for more than a decade.” The cheapness I was really refering to is in highering or firing of people that DO NOT COUNT AGAINST THE SALARY CAP. You don’t FIRE the best GM ever, the guy who took you to 3 straight SBs, unless you are too stupid and TOO CHEAP to know he is worth more than the pennies you throw at him.
You dont make an argument to support the cheapness of players salaries
Even with the stats you provided…..the team is still spending money on players, albeit probably spending too much on the wrong players.
If your argument was about Personnel in the Front office, (which when you use the generic ‘RALPH IS CHEAP’ doesnt fully convey that point) then I dont disagree with that.
However thats not a matter of being too cheap……..that’s a matter of picking the wrong guys.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you talking about?
I have not been general at all. YOU were general with “top 12 over the last FEW years”. I gave and give specific information otherwise it is a waste of time. hint, hint And, point of fact, you were wrong. Get over it.
and “the team is still spending money” is an idiotic statement. If they weren’t spending money, THEY WOULDN’T BE A FOOTBALL TEAM because they wouldnt have any players. Of course they are spending money. But as I said, If you spend a below average amount unwisely, you don’t make it to the playoff for more than a decade.
And if you are trying to say all I said was, “Ralph is cheap” and left it at that, then you didnt read my post, just assumed what I wrote. Read before you respond.
Your quote, “However thats not a matter of being too cheap……..that’s a matter of picking the wrong guys.”
Yes it is a matter of being too cheap, if he is TOO CHEAP to pay for the right guys a reasonable amount of money. Bill Polain never paid a single player and he didn’t pick too many that were “the wrong guys”. The GM picks the guys the he thinks the team needs. It is up to the owner to agree to pay them the agreed salary. Or not. Ralph is an “or not” kinda guy. Unless the price is right for him, with very little consideration of the impact, or lack thereof, on the team.
Since the days of the SBs and Bill Polian, Ralph Wilson has brought in inferior coaches (some exceptions), inferior front office personel and inferior players. The reason behind this fact, in my opinion (and I believe supported in fact by the team salary expenditures to players and Coaches and FO, as well as the product we have seen on the field over the last decade or more), is because they are the only coaches, FO and players that would come here for HIS monetary compensation limits. I.E. His cheapness. Or, as the old addage goes, “you get what you pay for, you pay for what you get.” If Bill Polian had remained in Buffalo, or another competent football person as GM, AND Wilson was willing to spend a reasonable amount to sign the players that GM felt we needed, we would never have had this “lost decade”.
12th, 16th and 4th
3 years equals a few……if you want to be nit-pickey about 4 spots in one year then thats on you.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I do enjoy your ranting and raving though.
Keeping me entertained at work.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
haha...
yeah facts are a rant and reality is a rave. You really need to get over yourself already.
If I want to be nit-picky? Your quote, “It’s hard to argue that Wilson is cheap when the last few years they’ve been in the top 12 in players salaries the last few years.” First, reduntant. Second, they werent in the top 12 every year. Third, 3 years doesnt make a trend. If the problems on this team started 3-4 years ago, then ok you MIGHT have a point. But they didn’t, so you don’t.
It’s not hard to argue that Ralph is cheap. It is hard to argue that he ISNT cheap! lol…and you look more the fool for doing so. He is cheap and all the facts, that you call ranting and raving, point to that. Go back one more year and see the big fat 30th in team player salary. Thats right, 30th. Go back further and you see the actual trend. You want to be an apologist for him? Go for it. At least be honest. You want to be an apologist for yourself because you are too lazy to look back more than 1 year? Because you are too lazy to put in the work and know your facts before you post? Go for it. Because I am sure most people will see through your BS, as I have. You make me laugh. Don’t post anymore, since you are too lazy to get your information BEFORE you post. Most people would call you a troll. Because you are a troll. Why don’t you look that up, La-Z-Boy.
Whatever you say Hoss.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Im definitely not defeated.
However it’s pointless to carry on with you when you’re obviously overly bitter….I get it. I understand.
Continuing to respond to you would ultimately get me nowhere…
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a note from the guy you’re verbally bitch-slapping, Buffalo110 – drop it.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right...
After watching less than NFL caliber football by the Bills for more than 10 years and being a fan of this team for more than 30 I am bitter. There is only one common denominator over that time. But it isn’t your fault so my apologies for taking it out on you.
Trust me man Im frustrated like you are
Plus I definitely agree with you that Ralph is a MAJOR problem, and I’ve said so in the past.
Where we differ isnt really that big of a deal, atleast to me.
No harm no foul on my end. :-)
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool man :D
And no, not a big deal. We want the same end result: A winner in Buffalo!
gave trent benefit of the doubt
but there is no way the offense should be this bad,
even with the line problems….
look, when he threw to johnson for 3 on 3rd and 7 the tv
sceen showed a wide open parrish ten yards upfield to
trents left, just above johnson.
i thought, ok, no pressure yet, no need to throw under the
distance required…
but he did…
and then knowing lee evans saw the ball one time all game.
really i think we can all say: one more week or less and pull
the trent edwards plug forever….
for the sake of his teammates and the fans…..
please….
i had hope, but he cannot see or feel the game well…
Im not the biggest Lee Evans fan at all......
But I have to give him credit for his professionalism…….the guys asking him questions in the locker are trying their damnedest to get him to say something derogatory about the team and certain players.
He’s been nothing but a pro during that interview.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
ActuallyI think he's pretty smart
I used to wish he’d say a lil’ more and speak up as a team leader. He’s now 29 y/o and being asked to run streak patterns while being double covered and no one throwing him the ball, yet being paid millions. It’s not his fault. His chances of a ring are next to nil so why not just pad your bank acct.
Seriously, though
who expected any different an outcome for this? we all knew this was going to be a bad blowout. the fact we kept it within 1TD for as long as we did was a pleasant surprise.
i was.
we all should EXPECT BETER THAN THIS
we have seen these same problems year after year like a sore thumb.
im done with this, “welcome to being a bills fan” garbage, they are an NFL team not a division 3 team.
Agreed!
Be agressive with FA signings—especially in positions that are hurting. Then stop stockpiling talent in our strong areas (backfield and secondary) and use it as trade bait. While I like having quality depth in these positions is does NO GOOD sitting on the bench when we have starters in other positions that are hurting the team. Then I keep seeing it mentioned—trade Evans. I admire him, think he’s a great WR, and would love to see him finish his career as a Buffalo Bill. At the same time, because I like him, it’s not fair keeping him in this situation. Give him a chance to win! I’d gladly cheer him on for another team—well, unless it was the Phins, Jets, or Cowgirls. But if we’re going to do that, we need to get something of value in return. Not a backup caliber player—but someone that will fill a hole.
Brett could use him.
After watching a little of the Minn/Miami game yesterday, Minnesota would take him in a heartbeat, but I’m sure the Bill’s would ask for the stars and the moon in return.
by flowdrifter on Sep 20, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
It all goes back to Ralph
With the exception of the Polian era and some old AFL years, the Bills have always been bad. He has consistently hired bad people who make bad decisions on players. If you are expecting better you will have your expectations crushed.
I know there is an army out there who say we need to give CHIX 2 or 3 years. Not me. They represent the past in the NFL (as does Ralph.) The Bills are the worst team in the NFL, have no real talent at any position (Byrd can’t tackle) and are backward looking in the front office.
Exactly
Ralph gets what he deserves from his yes men organizations that accept his meddling ways
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
This
kept it within 1TD for as long as we did was a pleasant surprise
is exactly what is wrong with our franchise and fanbase.
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 19, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, anything that can be said positively about this team is welcome. Means we arent completely hopeless.
Ummm… Considering the front 7 didn’t touch Rodgers, they still held the rush to under 100 yards and the secondary held Driver and Jennings to less than 75 yards combined… Does that work as positive?
It's pretty easy
told hold people to low yardage when they only have 30 yards to go for a touchdown.
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 20, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Its isnt the fan base...
We are trying to stay positive with this inferior product on the field week in and week out. And we are ALL mad as hell that after a decade of “rebuilding” we have not one single playoff game to show for it. Or anything resembling a competetive NFL football team aftr all that time. But the deadhorse is the losing culture of this team….how much more can we say when we have seen this all before for as long as we have? So trying to find a positive or plan a strategic move forward to make this team better is about all that we have left. And even THAT we have no control over….but we can dream.
Or we could, you know,
hold people accountable for their shortcomings. All I’m saying is you don’t hear winning organizations say crap like “at least we kept it close.” I want to vomit when I hear stuff like that.
by WhiskeySierra6 on Sep 20, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Captain Obvious comments
You said it by talking about the long Sundays ahead, Brian. The Bills have a TOUGH schedule this year. And all the pundits are going to feel completely justified in keeping the Bills rated #31-2 in the league. But season opener at Lambeau and then going to New England is a schedule the Colts would struggle with. Not sure Peyton Manning would have ended up with a 39 passer rating, though. Everyone did see what Miami did in Minnesota as well.
Cornell Green is exactly as advertised. Decent run blocker who seems to contain people inside so Bills running backs have room outside. But he cannot pass rush to save his QBs life. And Jamon Meredith can’t either. And I’m guessing Ed Wang would struggle as well. I wonder if the front office finally gets why the fan base was begging for offensive tackles over the off season. It would have been a seriously good idea for them to pick up one of the splashier somewhat available tackles like McNeil or Adams as a stop gap. It feels like we’re going to stay in rebuilding mode until we get a decent offensive line because it’s going to be impossible to develop a QB to have any confidence until they have a little bit of time to make decisions. It always seems to me that OL is the place you start to build a football team.
For being raised in the west coast offense, Trent is one of the slowest decision making QBs around. His arm’s pretty weak too. Not sure what Bill Walsh saw in him. Will they ever have him try to throw a deep out? It just seems like with him in there, there are huge chunks of field the defense doesn’t have to cover. For all the practice Trent has had against the 3-4, he’s still no better at beating it.
Is the fact that teams can drop the whole defense into coverage and beat Trent a symptom of his receivers not being able to find open spots or him not anticipating people getting open?
Chan should have kept pounding the run game. Every time Trent dropped back, I figured he’d be sacked and about 1/2 the time I was right. I’m also not sure how stats NFL came up with 4 sacks. I felt dirty doing it, but I played the GB D in my fantasy football and feel like they should have been credited with 3 more sacks. Didn’t Matthews have 4 sacks by himself? When they say he’s learned a lot from coach Greene, does that include the bit about which steroids are undetectable? He flattened poor Jonathan Stupar on a couple of plays.
George Edwards is nowhere near the defensive strategist that Perry Fewell was. It always looks like the entire middle of the field is open.
For being raised in the west coast offense, Trent is one of the slowest decision making QBs around. His arm’s pretty weak too. Not sure what Bill Walsh saw in him. Will they ever have him try to throw a deep out? It just seems like with him in there, there are huge chunks of field the defense doesn’t have to cover. For all the practice Trent has had against the 3-4, he’s still no better at beating it.
awesome
There is a difference
For being raised in the west coast offense, Trent is one of the slowest decision making QBs around. His arm’s pretty weak too. Not sure what Bill Walsh saw in him. Will they ever have him try to throw a deep out? It just seems like with him in there, there are huge chunks of field the defense doesn’t have to cover. For all the practice Trent has had against the 3-4, he’s still no better at beating it.
Today’s WCO is about throwing to a spot on the field and being on time.
Bill Walsh’s version was about getting 3-5 yards a play (and hopefully more) where your passing attack became a ball control offense, sorry you are not old enough to understand that.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Kinda ironic someone with the sn "kid" chiding someone for being too young.
LOL.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
to add
For being raised in the west coast offense,
when has trent ever played in one with the bills???
tell me?
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
For being raised in the west coast offense, Trent is one of the slowest decision making QBs around. His arm’s pretty weak too. Not sure what Bill Walsh saw in him. Will they ever have him try to throw a deep out? It just seems like with him in there, there are huge chunks of field the defense doesn’t have to cover. For all the practice Trent has had against the 3-4, he’s still no better at beating it.
Is the fact that teams can drop the whole defense into coverage and beat Trent a symptom of his receivers not being able to find open spots or him not anticipating people getting open?
That’s the difference between the bill walsh wco and the modern one, in the modern one, you are looking at a spot on the field and throwing to it if their are no defenders that can get to it, the receivers have already made their breaks and are heading toward that spot.
The bill walsh wco, you are throwing to a spot on 3 and 5 step drops before the receiver makes their break, it requires a higher degree of accuracy and less thought.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
There was only 1 play.
That GB used today that was a Bill Walsh style WCO, it was the pass to jennings up the left sidelines where it was thrown behind him, it was in the air 2 seconds before he even turned around and started to look for it, the defender was playing him, and jennings hauled it in perfect timing
Trent isn’t aaron rodgers, he would be much more suited to a Bill walsh style WCO than the modern ones with these receivers, where the break creates seperation, and for a playmaker like cj, the break might create enough seperation to take it to the house, like the many times jerry rice did..
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Gee, it only took two weeks.....
….and we are ALL ALONE in last place in the AFC East.
Miami, 2-0; New England, 1-1, New York, 1-1, Buffalo, 0-2.
Only in the suddeness
because I thought we’d win our home opener. I’ll stick to my prediction we’ll win five games. Yes, even that could be a stretch if we don’t find some kind of passing game.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 19, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
all the pundits (away from this site)
picked the Bills as the worst team in the NFL.
prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13
Most people here knew the Bills would be just as bad too.....
atleast most of the authors/moderators/writers
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
support
in Brian’s monthly polls for CHIX certainly lead me to believe that the “writers” on this site as evidenced by their overwhelming support for what CHIX did, thought the 2010 Bills would not be the worst team in the NFL
prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13
supporting the moves the team made doesnt mean everyone thinks the team is automatically good.
However I expect those numbers were inflated by hope…..and come Oct 1 when the new poll comes out there will not be as many happy/hopeful campers.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It is time to give the kid a shot
either Brohm or Fitz should be starting next week, someone needs to go in there who will throw the ball. We were down by 20 and Trent would still hesitate. I hate his lack of balls. There is not a person out there who thinks you can play, so try something!!
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
This is gunna be a really tough year to watch but
the top pick or top 5 will be worth it in the long run
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
No guarantees
many a top-five draft pick has flopped over the years, including a ton of QBs.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 19, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously
nothing is, but ya got a better shot
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Lynch for Matthews and Rodgers! And a 3rd!
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
Trent is a joke
and Chans play calling is just as bad
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
During our coaching search,
Chan was used as the punch line of many jokes…..then Nix actually hired him.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Sep 19, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ding Ding Ding...We have a winner!!!
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on, Joe....Chan is an offensive GENIUS!
Don’t you see it? : )
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, dropped my rose colored glasses in the toilet :-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
and Chans play calling is just as bad
Chan definitely looks like someone who hasn;t been watching the NFL for the last 10 years, I am expecting the wishbone next week as his next great idea.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And on defense, he needs to go review some film on the NE muddle.
GB used it against us once again today. The stand up in the wrong places, then muddle to the correct spot on set, to confuse a young line, we have seen this before, unfortunately our coaching staff hasn’t, learn to block the muddle, even DJ figured out how to block it and even used it against opponents with success.
I thought DJ was bad, I am starting to miss him.
Please don’t flame me too bad for saying that. But geez, the new regime seems to have even less of a clue, which I didn’t think was possible.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Vick
Ya. Would have sucked to have him. He’s got nothing left and no ability to make anything happen.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 7:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
In this offense........
that would probably have been the case.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Done
Been a rabid fan for almost fifty years and I’ve always had hope. Unless some major changes are made via trade or backups the hope is gone. Any coach that defends Edwards is not competent and will give you the same product for years to come. Time to move on. I feel pretty bad about that.
Goodbye....
I know the feeling, but any old timer Bills fan, that has truly lived through the good, and the bad, would never quit…
From an ole timer that doesn’t know how to quit… Goodbye….
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
+1
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
by radan on Sep 19, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, i've suffered through 1-13 seasons
and 2-14 ones, so I can handle this, too. However, watching this team year in-and-year out will probably kill me before Ralph Wilson kicks the bucket, and the Bills can turn it around with a new organization.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I am to stubborn to quit....but maybe Nix and Chan should ask the BR community for a little help before the next draft
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Sep 19, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good Idea
I’d even settle for them ignoring Ralph’s affection for picks like Spiller
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
by radan on Sep 19, 2010 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pre-season Edwards gave many of us Bills fans a little hope. Then game-time Edwards showed up and killed that hope. Hanging hope on the rare good drives he managed over the past 2 weeks seems to be foolish. I was hopeful the Bills could do better than the experts predicted knowing that the OL and Edwards had to step up if there was any hope of that happening. But this is another year when I’m counting the days until the Sabres drop the puck. While some of their moves frustrate me, at least their front office knows how to put together a competitive team.
Packer fan here
Just wanted to say good game guys. I’ve learned quite a bit about your team this week. I hope things turn out for you guys. Clearly Chan Gailey is experimenting so much with offensive schemes to the point you just don’t know what he’s doing out there. I feel for ya. I hope things work out for Buffalo. I went to the game today, most of the Bills fans were very respecful. I’m glad. Only 1 bad apple who probably got his butt kicked in the bathroom. that’s all. haha! Good luck on the remainder of your season Bill fans!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Wanna say that???
in the bathroom at the Ralph???
JK….
Thanks for the kind words of solace though….
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Probably could.
All the Bills fans in bathroom would be puking anyway.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LMAO!
No disrespect intended here, but when Chan Gailey said he was going back to the basics, I didn’t think he literally meant it to the point of being extremely vanilla. My hunch is Chan is trying to send his team a message and build off of it. IDK. Tough to say at this point. I can’t really say I agree with what he’s doing in Buffalo, but I’m not a HC though. Hopefully what he’s doing works and the Bills progress. I have nothing against Buffalo and hope they improve. Good luck the rest of the way on your season guys!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
It's hard to get upset with this group
Since it’s all so sad….
Funny thing is, I didn’t think they would be this bad. I thought Gailey could scrape together something for this offense, but apparently that’s even a bit much to ask for.
I’m so jealous of Jahvid Best right now. CJ Spiller hasn’t even looked like he belongs in the NFL yet, which is discouraging. Luckily, it’s 2 games into hopefully a long career. The kid needs to quit stutter stepping every time he gets the ball and just run. I was afraid he didn’t have the cutting ability that Best had coming into the draft, and I’d love to see him improve on that. I’m already sick of him trying to stop on a dime and just flopping through the air. Just make a quick cut, kid, and see what’s there. Enough with the dancing and flying. This isn’t a Peter Pan musical.
Today should teach us all one major lesson. The talent on the Bills isn’t even close to what it needs to be. If you watched the other games today, there are very few teams that are even close to being where the Bills are. This passing game has to be one of the worst in recent NFL history, besides anything involving JaMarcus Russell.
I’ve said it before, I just want to see some improvement and hope this year. So far, we’ve seen neither. Let’s hope this season can at least build somewhat of a foundation for the future. Ugh.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Sep 19, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more...
with this entire post. The D seems improved for the most part. That’s encouraging. But the O starts at QB, and we don’t have one. We have a practice dummy in place of one.
Forgive me....
but did the Lions win??? or wimper…. Jusayayin….
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
They've come a helluva lot closer to being 2-0 than we have......
but in the end…..they are 0-2 just like the Bills.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm irate with the management
for not understanding that there is no talent in this group. Massive roster changes should have been made in the off season for a serious rebuilding. There is not one player on the roster that I think is an above average NFL player. Please don’t claim that Poz or Byrd are anything but average. How can a competent professional go into a season thinking Chris Kelsay can play outside linebacker or that Green could handle the right tackle position?
prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13
Agree on Kelsay… today was more proof than ever that he does not belong in the NFL as an OLB… That was quite obvious today… Finley was running by him with ease (Whitner too… if youre watching" and Kuhn dropped a first down with Kelsay trailing him… he was ugly out there.
Buffal Bills. We have no 'O'
I actually feel bad for Kelsay
He is played his heart out, but he’s so bad at OLB. He has no business playing this position nor does he belong on the field for long stretches. I can’t believe I feel bad for him. I feel like the Grinch when his heart melts for Cindy Lou Who. Actually, Cindy Lou Who makes for a good nickname for him :)
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I agree with this 100%
I didnt really think we were going to be too good… but 5-11, 6-10 looked like a realistic ending to the season… at this rate… we look like a 1-15, 2-14 team… and I honestly would have never thought that. Its very clear that we are a bad team… and as much as it sucks… I think we have to realize that.
I just dont have confidence in this team. I dont ever expect an RB to break a long one, I dont expect Trent to have a pocket, I dont expect him to the throw it deep, I dont expect first downs for goodness sake…
When we put a drive together I feel its lucky… and honestly weve only put together 2 drives in 8 quarters… One was soft coverage, going for it on 4th with blown coverage… and the other was due to a 30ish yard penalty and then a few good plays…
And then the defense I dont trust our pass rush to pressure, I dont expect the d-line to tackle the RB, and I expect them to drive more times than not…
A lot has to improve with this team.
In it til the end… but Im hoping we at least start to turn the corner… 10 years in the same direction sucks :-/
Buffal Bills. We have no 'O'
by bflo on Sep 19, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh!
Way to throw the D under the bus dude. The only thing you should see would be a mirror.
“When we do run the ball like that, that’s what we want,” said Edwards. "We want to run the play action off that. You saw the Packers do that. They established the run and they were able to sit back and throw the ball wherever they want.
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 19, 2010 9:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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