Five Reasons Bills Had No Prayer Of Packers Upset
Any Buffalo Bills fan with half a brain knew that the team had very little chance of upsetting the Green Bay Packers in Week 2. They failed miserably in their attempt, falling 34-7 at Lambeau Field. In the process, they accomplished exactly zero of the five major tasks necessary for playing a competitive football game today.
Contain tight ends Jermichael Finley and Donald Lee. If you're desperate, hang your hat on the fact that Lee, the second tight end, had one catch for a one-yard loss. Finley, however, torched Buffalo's secondary, hauling in four passes for a whopping 103 yards. He was the only Packers receiver with more than 38 receiving yards.
Contain linebacker Clay Matthews. Easier said than done, obviously, but it'd have been nice to see it on occasion, at least. Matthews sacked Trent Edwards three times, upping his season total to six.
Exploit Green Bay's weak offensive tackles. Even after one of those weak tackles, Chad Clifton, left the game, the Bills did not record a sack. Aaron Rodgers had all day to operate, throwing for 255 yards and two touchdowns, and adding 20 rushing yards and another score.
Make plays behind their blitz packages. Green Bay did blitz, believe it or not, even though they probably didn't need to. Edwards netted 62 passing yards. His longest pass completion was a 21-yarder in garbage time.
Produce on third down. Buffalo converted just 4 of 12 third downs offensively, while allowing the Packers to convert 7 of 12. They went three-and-out three times, including their first two possessions.
Maybe it's just me, but a professional football team should be able to accomplish at least one of its major objectives. It's probably not just me, though.
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I made the comment in Poz's fanpost about this....figure it might apply here
I only got to watch about the first 20 min of the game, but to me it seemed like the offensive line was confused on who to block (especially on the pass plays)
Which obviously contributed to the sacks, pressure, and lack of production from the offense.
Did anyone else notice that to be the case as well?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
I'm thankful I only seen the first half
and yes they did look confused as far as their blocking assignments. I’m still holding out hope though for these guys (except the RT). These guys are young and need to learn how to work as a unit, much like the secondary. By mid-season I’m looking for some improvement from this group.
Yes......I finally have proof
Any Buffalo Bills fan with half a brain knew that the team had very little chance of upsetting the Green Bay Packers in Week 2.
Now I can tell my wife I have at least half a brain :-)
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Sep 19, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Sorry old friend...
it’s just further proof that we’re FRIED man!!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
I imagine the few who thought the Bills actually would pull the upset have like a fourth of a brain. “So what about your prediction?”
drools on the floor
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 1:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But...But...But
the Bills did not record a sack.
Chris Brown said that our pass rush was our second best advantage……maybe it actually was???
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
He probably based that on practices against our OL....
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Wow Brownie has deep fried his brain if he said that. I guess this team wears down the best of us, because someones going to have to tell Chris Brown about the rabbits pretty soon here. My God what this team does to us all.
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 2:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can’t say anything…………. running to the bedroom to find that one bullet.
"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 19, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
It isn't that bad........for me it has gone past depressing and reached the tragic comedy level
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
by Joe P. on Sep 19, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude don't do that. Instead just concentrate on these 3 names...
Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Andrew Luck.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that's about the size of it
Before the season started, I figured the talking heads who were calling for 1 or 2 wins were idiots. Now, I’m not so sure. I’d say one of the above should be available to the Bills next April, hopefully along with a revamped rookie salary cap and no $40 to $50 million in guaranteed money fore taking an NFL snap.
Its weird...
Our best hope is another Stanford Quarterback….
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 2:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bills Pass Rush
It seemed to me at times on pass plays that the Bills DL and even blitzing or rushing linebackers were content to bull rush straight on the Green Bay OL as though THAT is their objective, instead of trying to get to the QB. Granted I only have the one view I get on DirecTV but it seemed that was pretty consistent. There seems to be no creativity on the blitz and no heart to get to the QB. Anyone else notice this?
And if we can’t get to the QB shouldnt we try stunts on obvous passing downs, or are we not skilled enough to do this?
Too early to start debating which way we should go with our soon-to-have top five pick?
At this early stage I think they should take QB or an OT, anybody think other wise?
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
I am betting at least two people still think Bell and Trent can get the job done
Unfortunately, their names are Chan and Buddy.
If all the stars align, pigs learn to fly, humanity achieves world peace, doctors discover a cure for cancer, scientists perfect cold fusion, and hell freezes over, the Bills might win the SB this year.
Dismal feeling
I started watching the bills on a consistent basis when they had ferguson…I can’t remember any time when it was soooo depressing to watch my team!
agreed
at least fergunson threw the ball downfield…even if it was to the other team most of the time! lol
Not sure why Bell gets so much hate. He is one of the least ‘offensive’ offensive lineman. Meredith is usually the one getting burned at LT (or Bell correctly takes the inside rusher and Edwards doesn’t read the blitz… seen that one more than once.
What were our offseason options to upgrade these positions? Given our choices, could we have really gotten something done? I’d love to hear about the great trades we missed.
So now the offseason has transpired without any good options. Are they supposed to say they think Trent sucks and that Bell is too raw? Of course not. I get it your frustrated, but I don’ think these guys are that clueless. They are not in a position to be honest about their best options.
by greysquirrel on Sep 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why Bell gets so much hate.
Because we are not paying attention in real time when the substitute merideth, and we think bell is still in there, Meredith is terrible. Bell needs to start playing a whole game.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell's not as terrible as Meredith, but he's not adequate at the job either.
We need better.
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I think that Bell is a RT playing LT.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell
Bell is a swing tackle at best. He’s Corey Louchey with less technique…not really sure what OBD is doing at this position (other than avoiding an expensive and risky fix).
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
I don't
I think he was paying Lip service with that hard te evaluate a QB when he is always on his back.
I think the plan with the OL downgrade was let’s throw him to the wolves, and if they don’t eat him alive we’ll draft an OT next year, and if he does get eaten alive, we’ll get a QB.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bills will...
Decide none of the top 5 QBs or OTs are good enough to draft that high so they will take the best RB on the board.
I can tell you right now that none of the OTs are good enough to draft that high.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
*sigh*
Unless our OTs miraculously become competent players or we find a good FA OT or 2….we are screwed for another year? Or 2? Banking on the OTs on this roster becoming good is coaching suicide, imo. Any options out there?
Gaither and McNeil will both likely be free Agents next offseason. I hope Nix goes hard after McNeil.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
go after both that would be a awesome upgrade for the line
Mcniel levitre hang/wood. Wood/urbik gaither sounds too good to happen it will most likly be
Bell levitre hang wood meridth. :(
by Gpluehri on Sep 20, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Julio Jones, AJ Green time then? lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I kinda agree with this......
I also believe there are so good quality QB’s that dont need be taken in the top 5.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s so hard to say this early in the season, but there do seem to be a lot of good options. Hopefully, it turns out better for us than it did in 2004.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the end of the world.
I can tell you right now that none of the OTs are good enough to draft that high.
ATM it seems like Bell is doing decent enough, he just needs to get back to 100% and play a full game. What we desperately need is a RT. Get the best OT available in the 2nd and plug him there.
BPA or QB in the 1st.
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 19, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
QB first, RT second and we’d actually have a decent line.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
never release Langston Walker and we'd have a decent line...
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 19, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wow, yep....I still am kinda perplexed why we ever cut Walker.
To think…the Bills really did this to themselves, the disintegration of the offensive line. Had Jason Peters, Langston Walker, Derek Dockery….all gone in one offseason. What other team in the NFL ever does that, with no proven backups ready to take their place?
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by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dockery I didn’t mind losing, and Peters basically forced the Bills’ hand, but Walker was all Jauron’s idiocy.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
While were on the topic
they shouldnt have released Incognito who is playing great for Miami just like Cameron Wake who wasnt worthy of us apparently
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 2:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We offered Wake a big contract
He chose Miami
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
And scheme had a lot to do with it. He knew that he’d be much better as a pass rusher in the 3-4 than an OLB/DE in the 4-3. Overall team talent also played a factor.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Then they need an expensive vet…not the best solution in a perfect world, b ut that’s what you get when you don’t draft one above the 5th round for 8 years…I’m dreading the Chris Brown articles on Ed Wang’s progress this offseason…
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Wang isn't on the IR Is he?
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No...he's on the 53.
I’m just forecasting OBD trying to sell their fan base on another project player who the rest of the league passed over several times at an impact position.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Lee Evans is almost 30
And what else do we have at the position?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
As the Lions found out before drafting Stafford....
You can’t get the ball to a superstar, top 5 pick WR unless you actually have a QB.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Calvin Johnson got the ball just fine. They learned you cant keep taking 1st round WR’s. Or conversely, keep picking them till you get it right.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Fair enough, but a great QB does a lot more for good WR’s that great WR’s do for good QB’s. We NEED to go QB first in this year’s draft.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but I’d still rather take my chances with a QB than WR. No team ever won a superbowl only because they have a fantastic WR.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
We need to take the best non running back on the board when we pick. I refuse to commit to more than that.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Well, that was the case this year, but look what happened!
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Nah
I personally didn’t have a problem with that pick. Still don’t honestly.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Well, neither did Nix. we might take another RB next year.
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Now your just being ridiculous.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but not any moreso
Was it any less ridiculous to take Spiller this year?
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obviously this is a joke cause if we had 5 randy mosses we cant get them the ball anyhow. we need a new decision maker under center
obviously this is a joke cause if we had 5 randy mosses we cant get them the ball anyhow. we need a new decision maker under center
Show me one Randy Moss on our roster. And I’ll concede your point.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
there is no Randy Moss. WE NEED A QUARTERBACK ATO THROW THE BALL IN COVERAGE.
we watch all of these quarterbacks play and get the ball out with a decent to bad offensive line, like Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers. They get the ball out of their hands VERY quick.
If we had 5 Randy Moss’s on the Roster, our fellow qb would NOT be able to get the ball to them. Lee was thrown to once, our BEST receiver. When T.O. says that Lee was the best receiver he has played with opposite of since Jerry Rice that holds weight.
We are slapped in the face and disrespected as fans when TE does not attempt down field, COVERED or NOT. Shows lack of HEART whether TE means to show that or not.
I mean just look at what can happen if you throw deep, get a busted coverage, a slip on the DB, possibly interference, or ughhh a catch?
I GET we have “no” line, but what we fans need to get is TRENT EDWARDS WILL NEVER HAVE A QUICK RELEASE!
Look how many times he pats the ball before he throws it, double clutches, or shuffles his feet.
I’ve said enough.
I'm aware of this.
But taking a QB in the first round isn’t a guarantee of success. For every Peyton Manning, theirs a Ryan Leaf. And this team has so many holes, if we took an AJ Green he’d be filling a position of need. I do agree that we desperately need an upgrade from TE. I just disagree with how we need to go about it.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I totally agree with you! 110 %
but here’s my idea, or my hope. \
Say Trent played well, we still get a QB in draft anywhere in the board, if he shows potential keep him on the squad and have him learn, like old times, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers. Now I understand that they played behind hall of famers, but they can still be the future.
The big reason I always have pulled for Brian Brohm is for one, its a fresh man to watch under center try to make it. Guess what.. he gets the ball out quick and anticipates routes. Brohm trust in Third string receivers, again I get its preseason but his reads were quick as a whip.
Also Brohm could be the future, if they dont think that, they would not be developing him now. We need someone SOLID in now, and we did really try hard to get McNabb and that would of been ideal for a rookie to learn from. I still feel that Vick would stop some problems and excite the Bills fans if we brought him here next year AND drafted a qb. Vick has shown the last two games to show everyone he can do what people always said he couldnt do, have solid pocket presence and be accurate with the football.
by sketchydave on Sep 19, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If we’re going to lose, at this point I’d rather just flame out with a big QB bust. At least we could say we gave it a go. Plus it’d be funny to watch.
by lord gloom on Sep 20, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Edwards has NO release
What got on my nerves was Edwards didn’t throw the ball down field on 4th down for heavens sake when you have nothing to lose. An interception down field on 4th down is better than taking a sack or running out of bounds. I would ask what was he thinking but he obviously wasn’t.
As I've stated above...
Locker, Mallett, Luck. Anyone else and we’re making sure that this team stays bad.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I am shying away from locker
After his last performance against Neb. 4-20 for 71 yards, 1TD, 2INT…it was ugly.
I was simply naming the top 3 QB’s in this year’s draft in no particular order. The more I read from the college QB’s the more I like Luck. You don’t need a cannon arm to be successful, only to be precise and a good decision maker, and by what I’ve read Luck is the best decision maker since Manning and has the potential to be as precise as Brees, that’s worth my vote.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as he’s not a total noodle arm, sounds fine to me. I don’t see a cannon for an arm as a necessity, but they do need to make sure whomever they draft has enough arm strength to deal with the weather at the Ralph.
Agreed. But to me that’s more a question of velocity as opposed to actual strength. And Luck apparently has that.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Luck as well...
Stanford’s 68-24 white washing of WF was pretty impressive. And if/when he comes out for the 2011 draft, he should be our #1 target. If the NFL goes on hiatus for 2011, do we keep the same draft order as 2011 in 2012? How exactly would that work? Point being, if there isnt NFL football in 2011, would there be a point for him to come out after only 2 years of college football?
Stanford’s 68-24 white washing of WF was pretty impressive.
No it wasn’t, Duke scored 48 against them.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
No, it was pretty impressive, regardless of the opponent. They scored TD’s on their first 8 possessions. Luck didn’t make a single bad decision in that game.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sean Renfree threw for 358 yards and 4 TD's against them
And he’s bad. Luck might be good,but WF isn’t a good defense to you as a measuring stick. There about as inept as they come.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Luck also had a 50 yard TD scramble in that game too. He can move and has a more than serviceable arm and was extremely accurate.
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 2:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think ya'll are miussing the point here.
A horrible Duke team put up 48 on Wake Forest. Wake Forest is a horrible defensive team. Talk to me when he’s putting the whomping on higher ranked opponents.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Harbaugh put in the 2nd string defense at the beginning of the 3rd Qtr
it was 41-10 at that point.
It was impressive.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
In hockey, after they lost a season to owners’ lockout, they kept the same draft order. If I’m not mistaken, Crosby and Ovechkin went 1-2 that year.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ovi was the first overall the year before the lockout. Malkin went second overall to the Pens that year.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, I knew a Canadian would correct me if I was wrong. :) Yeah, I was wrong about the whole lockout situation and the draft. The last thing that happened before the lockout was that year’s draft.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 20, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If the NFL goes on hiatus for 2011, do we keep the same draft order as 2011 in 2012?
I imagine that the NFL would probably take the same approach as the NHL did 5 years ago: lottery for the draft order, make it totally random. And reverse the order in every round.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Wake Forest is horrible.
Is it hockey season yet?
No seriously, is it?
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by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s way too early to guess at this point. One thing is for certain though—the Bills need to be active in the FA market. There are too many pieces the draft won’t solve. Yes, the Bills need a QB of the future, but a QB to step in now to make the team exciting would be welcomed. Drafting a young solid OL would be great, but if there are FA’s to step in right away to help develop the youngsters, that would be very welcomed as well.
Buddy & Chan, rebuild this team—fine! But if you’re taking your sweet time doing it then other pieces will start falling apart as our FA’s jump ship, get injured, or retire.
by jcey on Sep 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why bother?
This team can’t afford to pay $60 million for a rookie QB to eat grass behind this porous line. They’re far better off trading away their #1 pick for a couple lower down in the first round.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Sep 19, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda how Im thinking too......
however finding a trading partner is likely to be hard.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully
There will be a rookie salary cap in place in the new collective bargaining agreement.
Maybe that’s the secret plan, get a high draft pick next year because it will be more affordable.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ENTIRELY disagree.
At this point we’re like the Lions, we can’t afford not to pay that to a QB, even a rookie. However we may have something very large n our side: the new CBA.
If what I’ve been reading is correct the union wants a new deal by the end of November, while the owners are looking to February and March as their deadline. And both sides are open to rookie wage scales. So if a new CBA gets done before the draft then we wont be paying a rookie QB 60M.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That just seems too good to be true, right?
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The way thing have gone for us.
They will find a way to blow it, We’ll go 0-11 and reel off 5 straight wins to end the season resign Trent and back to square 1
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
resign
re-sign
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
QB or bust
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Everyone knew they would lose
but to look so so bad makes it hard to even watch. Our offense looks nothing like pre season and just like last year.
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
I was actually surprised...
it wasnt 38-0 at the half. Way to go D! The preseason gave me hope that Trent could at least manage the offense….but now it looks like he is stuck in stupid. Can’t wait to hear his post game.
I just couldn't help but stare in aww of the Packer's pas rush. Mathews is a MONSTER!
Your looking at a sure fire Hall of Famer in Clay Mathews. Not only that, but if he even keeps half of the pace that he’s on right now he’ll still shatter Strahan’s sack record in only his second season in the league.
I also saw that the Packers are beatable. If we had play the whole game like we did the second quarter then we would have had a very good chance of winning the game.
I also saw Buffalo’s biggest probably out there today: Trent Edwards. Don’t get me wrong, I used to be a big Trent supporter, but not anymore. When your throwing checkdown passes on 3rd and 15+ (which happened regularly in this game) then you WILL lose. It is unacceptable to throw a checkdown pass on 3rd and 15+, I don’t care if your receivers are covered, or even if you get intercepted, you have to at least try to get the first down!!!!! This team will remain horrible as long as Trent stays at QB, and Trent will also continue getting worst as long as he’s the starter as every snap that he plays continues to destroy any bit of confidence he had left.
Long story short, 2 things need to happen next week: 1 – the line needs to pass protect a lot better; 2 – Fitzy needs to become our starter.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Clay Mathews...
is the real deal. Not sure about breaking the single season record yet, or the HoF, but I want to see him when he faces a legit OLine. If he does the same against them, then I am on board. He is fun to watch.
Nothing is for certain on record or HOF’s, but if he keeps this level of play going for another 5 or 6 seasons then it’s pretty sure fire that both will be his eventually.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
But as a Bills fan…I am won’t believe anything till I see it on a consistent basis lol
I agree.
He might not look so all world against the Jets line.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
checkdowns on 3rd down are bothersome…but what is worse, and what I can’t stand is that on 4th and long and you need something, anything, Trent decides to run for two yards and go out of bounds and not at least take a chance by throwing it past the marker.
What is even more disturbing...
Is the fact that he does that a lot and the coaches haven’t forced him to knock it off. He did it last week to at the end of the game, if I am not mistaken. Totally pointless. But the last play for othe Bills in this game is even more disturbing since he had a wide receiver open while in the pocket and during the scramble. All on Trent. As was the Steve Johnson INT. He had Parrish running a parralell slant, the D bit on Johnsons inside rout. Parrish was wide open with plenty of green in front and probably would have been a TD.
All on Trent.
Exactly! as for your coaches comment, for all we know Chan has been forcing him to knock it off during practice and maybe Trent has… in practice. Once your in the game it’s a different story. Oh and last year the coaches did force him to knock it off by playing Fitzy.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Point
Should we start the Trent Benching pool? My money is on week 7, right after the bye. 2 weeks to prep the new QB after going 0-5 up to that point.
Trent’s gone after this year unless he pulls a Drew Brees. He’s not going to.
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He is not pulling a Drew Brees.
I have no doubt he is gone.
I really think Nix never even wanted to evaluate Trent. Just throw him to the wolves and get his guy next year, based on the OL downgrade.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I’d like to see Fitzy in week 3, but thats just me.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I am done with Edwards.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Sep 20, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kyle Williams sack?
Maybe it’s wishful memory on my part, but didn’t Kyle Williams get a sack in the first half? That doesn’t take away at all from Brian’s point about our inability to generate any pass rush against Green Bay’s aging tackles, but if we did have that small bright spot we shouldn’t let go of it.
not that I saw........
but he did get two killer offside penalties.
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure I would say killer. Obviously penalties are never good, but I don’t think they hurt as bad as they could’ve. He didn’t have any gaffes in the 2nd half, I don’t think.
He was really just trying to make a play, which is more than I can say for some of our other defenders. What really kills me is that Williams strength is quick penetration but when he breaks through an O-Line, there’s no pressure or even any contain from the sides. You can’t give a good QB a way out and all any offensive player has to do is bounce to the outside, and they’re all good.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Sep 19, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops, my mistake. Just checked and he is not credited with a sack. But I do remember him converging on Rodgers. Perhaps it was just a pressure.
I think he was credited with one of our two QB knockdowns.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So...I didn't manage to catch this week's game
I have no idea what it looked like during the game, but it looks like that was a blessing in disguise.
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So… I love the constant reminders of how much the Maybin pick sucked (so far…. I’m still praying).
Maybin could have been Clay Matthews.. He also could have replaced Chris Kelsay who is slow, terrible and confused in coverage. Matthews could have covered Finley and Lee and given us a pass rush.
You know what else? Jermichael Finley was a third round pick in the 2008 draft.
The same draft where we picked the incredible James Hardy in the second round, and the future hall of famer Chris Ellis in the third round….both before the Jermichael Finley pick. Sigh.
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by StroudFanClub on Sep 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
dude really? don’t start this crap again…
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They also have a nice WCO going.
He would be wasted here.
Did you see that one pass to jennings thrown behind him up the left sideline, was in the air about 2 seconds before he turned around and caught it, perfect timing.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a 5th rounder i think
And we took Derek Fine in the 4th.
by Supermansdaddy on Sep 19, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin could have been...
Michael Oher. Then Trent wouldnt have an excuse to suck. And we would be 1-2 pieces on offense from being good.
Yeah, this particular game was lost 19 months ago when someone in the collective thought Maybin was a better bet than Matthews. Geronimo must be shaking his head. Based on his insights it seemed certain Matthews was the pick last year.
Building a solid team takes time and shrewd decisions. Hopefuly we start getting more of those.
where has Ellis been?
I thought he played well in the 1st game, why the **** is that bum Kelsay still starting?
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 19, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is that TE Martin we picked up from the dolphins hiding?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
where are ANY of our TEs...Nelson better be ready to be targeted 20 times a game.
by FKNGVNA on Sep 19, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stupar caught a pass to pen the 2nd half I remember YYYAAAAAYYYY!
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
A professional football team?
In name only…
One would think that the Bills, having very little to lose, would attempt an all-out blitz on at least several occasions. But out Bills continue to think, in the face of evidence to the contrary, that they can generate a rush with four (sometimes only three) rushers.
Sorry, but I do not get it. I am watching the same team I saw last year.
Imagine how strong our secondary could be if they got some help up front?
Our Wang don’t Hang; it’s a Calloway Wood cause we got Levitre.
Sorry, but I do not get it. I am watching the same team I saw last year.
I’m not, this one looks worse.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
I’m not, this one looks worse.
Point taken.
And I swear that Chan is hiding Jauron under his pullover.
Our Wang don’t Hang; it’s a Calloway Wood cause we got Levitre.
by ChipShot on Sep 19, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow.
nice….that made me chuckle outloud.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
nice Ninja Turtle reference!
June Jones is my daddy.
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 19, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And I swear that Chan is hiding Jauron under his pullover.
If he was, we actually might get some turnovers,
I think he has the three headed disaster of Fairchild, Schonert, and AVP under there.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody can cloak AVP.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Found a picture of that!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Disagree. Our D actually looks much improved in my eyes, even with the total lack of a pass rush (and lets face it there wasn’t much of one last year either). Our O on the other hand looks 20 times worst than last year, so in the end it’s still a worst team even with improvements on the D.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree too
I’d rather have turnovers than getting gashed by the run. The defense is winning us no games this year unless they start getting some picks and forcing some fumbles.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
should say
than getting
than not getting
2 games no turnovers, but giving up less run yardage is not an improvement.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We can thank Marv for all of this
Pains me to say it, I loved Marv, but….
a) hired Jauron
b) drafted Lynch
c) traded for McCargo
d) drafted Whitner
e) Jauron insisted on Maybin over Oher
and so on.
When we look back, the Levy/Jauron hires will have out this team back a decade. Hope we still have a team by then.
It struck me in the post game interviews
I heard TE say that alot of the players ont he offense haven’t been around long enough to be really as frustrated as the fans (paraphrased of course) and it was the first time it hit me that of the starters only Evans and Parrish have been on the offense more than 4 years. Only TE, Lynch and Jackson have been around 4 years.
Im shocked at the turnover. I always feel that we are fielding the same offense every year, but really the whole group has turned over pretty recently.
I ’m not drawing any conclusions from that, just rumbling.
Or 20%
Since the only starter from 2009 that didn’t return to his starting position was Brad Butler.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
50% of the O-line is turning around every play.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I was seeing 100% on a few plays
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lookout blocks are awesome.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Shouldn't they be frustrated and ticked after one quarter of poor play?
They’re professional football players that are expected to produce. Don’t these guys have any fire in them?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
If a deal is possible for Mcneil anything less than a 1st
and we are not doing it, i hate this team
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Why not wait till Free Agency when we can have him for just money?
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo
"Give back some of that money you ain't [expletive] earned!" - Eric Wood
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he might not choose to come here.
30 different teams to choose from
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Then he wouldn’t sign an extension if we traded for him. We’d be giving up picks for a 12-game rental.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
because he would have to want to come here
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
by billsoferie on Sep 21, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that Bell is the problem,
but i would move him to RT
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Apologies
The post game 3 up and 3 down is something that I’m doing, but this weekend I had far more important things going on than football.
That said, smile. CanadienBillsFan is right. Start scouting Locker, Mallett, Luck, and Ponder. At the very least, if this team is going to suck, they should be good at it. And maybe we’ll draft high enough to get the QB we need.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
As I’ve been saying for a week now, the Colts didn’t get to draft Payton Manning by being good. ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts have been straying this way over the past two weeks
If it takes a terrible 2010 to get to a position to draft a franchise QB, then it’s worth it.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
by Der Jaeger on Sep 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m right there with you bro.
BTW always been meaning to ask, is there any particular meaning to the letters CH in your pick?
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's just hope there's a franchise QB available
If Luck doesn’t declare, we’ve got to choose between a couple of projects. One major (Locker), one minor (Mallett).
I just hope we can find the QB we so desperately need….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I am starting to think.
Mallett is the guy.
He is the Bionic Rivers (we can make him bigger, stronger),
I saw somewhere today listed as 6’6" 283? Is this correct?
Add in the go go gadget laser rocket arm.
Good performances against ranked opponents and is playing in the SEC.
Much as I like Jake, I think Mallett fits the Nix mould.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard somewhere that QBs around 6’6" are not typically successful in the NFL.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve heard he’s actually taller, possibly closer to 6’8". The 6’6" he’s listed at is like how shorter guys are always listed taller. It’s done to avoid the stigma of really tall qb’s not working out in the nfl.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 20, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He's definitely not 283 lbs
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
That’d be 238, not 283! 283 and we’re playing him as a LT!
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No seriously, is it?
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I'm not convinced that Locker is as big of a project as you think
He was good v. BYU until the last drive, very good v. Syracuse, and terrible v. Nebraska. Taking into account some of the very good games he played last year (USC, LSU, Notre Dame, Arizona, Cal) and didn’t play terrible v. Oregon or Oregon State. I think a lot of what’s going on is overreaction to his worst game ever.
That said, I am concerned that he hasn’t won a bunch of games at Washington, and I’d like to see him win a big game late.
Mallett is consistent footowork away from begin a legit NFL QB, IMO.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Looking good against Syracuse isn’t really grounds for celebration.
Is it hockey season yet?
No seriously, is it?
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But playing well against USC, LSU, ND, Arizona, and Cal isn't grounds for disregarding a player after one game
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I'm not disregarding him after one game
I just don’t like what I see from him. And I really don’t like inaccurate college QB’s. The losing part doesn’t help either.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Agreed
Washington plays 4-5 more currently ranked teams. Let’s see how he does.
Remember that the Huskies absolutely stink.
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Couldn't disagree more.
If you look at what Nix has done with what was/is available to him (aka UFA’s that actually wanted to come here) he’s done a very good job. As for the coach if you actually bother looking at the whole field (thank yo wide screen) the you’ll realize that the plays that are called on both sides of the field are the right plays.
What’s going wrong shouldn’t be put on the front office or the coaches, it’s all the players at this point. Lack of execution is what is hurting this team the most, not the front office.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
And the reason they don't execute
Is that they lack the talent to do so. Not that it’s Nix’s job, but the Modrak front office (established 2001) has been pretty sorry in getting players that can play.
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MUCH easier said than done.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s also a waste, as they’ll be available via FA, in all likelihood.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 20, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Mankins has already said that he’s not playing another game for the Pats and I doubt McNeill stays a Charger unless they franchise him.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 20, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
No, trade for Payton Manning and Ryan Clady!
…Since we’re expecting Nix to do things that he ain’t going to do.
Is it hockey season yet?
No seriously, is it?
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Dude you can only sign the talent THAT ACTUALLY WANTS TO COME HERE!!!!!
We’re just like the Lions after their 0-16 season, they couldn’t even sign a CFL player to save their lives.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like we're doomed never to find talent again.
Players have varying reasons of wanting to come to a team. We’re not leading the league in attractiveness, but we’re not completely undesirable either.
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or the coaches
I definitely think there is some blame to go on Chan,
Here he is during preseason making in game adjustments, and not so much when the games started. I liked the starting game plan.
To start the second half, he could have built on it with a 3 rb full house to start the 2nd to show something different, he didn’t, his bad.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 19, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we really need an OT
if we cant trade for Gaither or Oniel then it will be best case 2013 before we are mediocre
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by Dr. Brackish Okun on Sep 19, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
This offseason, the draft/FA needs to be heavily focused on the offense
Here’s my short list of players that I would keep on offense:
Wood
Levitre
F. Jackson
Lynch
Spiller
Stupar (as a backup)
S. Nelson (only because we don’t know how he looks this year)
D. Nelson (only for red zone potential)
Easley (IR put him out before anyone could get a real look at him)
Everyone else can be cut or traded.
Hangartner was tossed like a rag doll by Matthews for his 1st sack
Evans could not get open, you don’t pay a WR 9+ mil for someone that can’t get open and make plays. The Bills should trade him and get someone like Vincent Jackson that can get open and has the ability to shed double coverage. Evans can’t do that.
S. Johnson & Parrish had 2 costly mistakes.
Keep Bell as a backup, but get rid of Green.
Hate to say it, but Vick is the type of QB we need with this bad O-line. Vick is looking good so far in Philly.
It sucks to be thinking about the offseason already, but the whole draft needs to be focused on the offense.
Bad sign
My two blogs on SB Nation are for the Baltimore Orioles and the Buffalo Bills.
I wonder if Buck Showalter would like to manage the Bills?
Wow and I though I was bad with the Bills and Jays. I got nothing on you!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 19, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo Bills and Golden Gophers football -face palm-
Draft Eric Decker in the 3rd!!! Eric Decker > Jordan Shipley > Arrelious Benn
by NordicBillsfan on Sep 20, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow…..your the same monster I am. I thought I had to live with the pain of the Bills and Orioles alone. Why do we exist?
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 2:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bills Offense
is a joke. I can’t tell how much is personnel, coaching, scheme, talent, etc. But I do know it is awful. No cohesion, no consistency, no rythym, its just putrid. I have no idea how Nix and Gailey plan to turn this thing around.
For the record I was live in person on the field for the Washington vs. Nebraska game Saturday and will share my scouting report on Jake Locker this week when I get to put my notes together. But a preview is: let’s hope there are better QB’s available in the Top 10.
"Show me the baby: - Buddy Nix
Yeah Marv
For the record I was live in person on the field for the Washington vs. Nebraska game Saturday and will share my scouting report on Jake Locker this week when I get to put my notes together. But a preview is: let’s hope there are better QB’s available in the Top 10.
outside that 33 yard run to the left and the deep pass for a td the next play, to start the 2nd half, it was pretty brutal.
But also to add, his WRs were truly overmatched by the nebraska secondary, When Jake did run with it he looked good, he is a tough one to evaluate since his supporting cast is so awful.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
For Me
I am starting to think the Nix choice is Mallett, he seems like the guy.
The public drunkeness, could be a red flag, but back in the day, Jim Kelly liked to party, and he turned out OK,
If that Makes Mallett too much a red flag, Locker is the only other choice, I still need much more selling on Ponder. I really think there is zero chance of Luck declaring for the draft next year if there is a rookie pay scale in place in the new CBA.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
But to add
there was a few times last year he carried that team on his shoulders, which is a plus. He might do it again this year at some time.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Tim Couch was a collegiate phenom.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea how Nix and Gailey plan to turn this thing around.
Slowly and methodically, you gotta assume
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bills and thier collective ability to draw on straws.
as the subject line says"THEY SUCK!!" and they do it so well.they say it begins with offensive and defensive line play……………? what line play?they can’t pass block worth a damn,run blocking did show signs of life.the defensive line was as atrocious,too!! 2 weak-ass tackles,one replaced by injury and they couldn’t get a lick of pressure on rogers.they get more embarrassing by the week.hey donte, shut the eff up,instead play tough.how many times were you beat? time to put up like a man,not talk crap you can’t back up.converted defensive ends down field covering big,fast tight end???? is our def,coordinator over his head? is edwards(qb) good enough or not? how the hell will we know with that weak-ass offensive line? sorry peeps,gotta go puke,i saw a very disgusting performance today in green bay and i need to do some emesis.
Thoughts:
Edwards: cannot pass past the first down marker when one is needed in any situation. Has no leadership ability whatsoever. He cannot read defenses nor can he see any of the open routes that a receiver runs. Cannot ever step up in the pocket when there is one. Actually saw he recognize a blitz, but, he threw a bad pass as soon as it hit the O line b/c he was AFRAID, which amazingly picked up the blitz. Pats, pumps, shakes and wiggles, but, shows no ability to even think about tossing one down field(actually cheered before the penalty just because he went deep, sad).
Rushing: Start Jackson. Pound Lynch in red zone if we ever get there, and give it to him 3rd and short. Think Jackson is better Lynch is reliable.
Defense: Hey you get burned out playing all game. Kelsay is painful to watch the guy is terrible. Still no turnovers, Whitner dropped a gift easy pick 6.
Coaching: better calls on offense this game, Chan cant force Edwards to go deep but he needs to realize to RUN THE BALL every quarter. Why dont he get that, tried to get cute throwing in third but failed miserably.
Next game: scrap Edwards stop delaying the inevitable, start Brohm whatever at least he has the ability to become something. I dont know why everyone is saying Edwards is the best option at QB, how could anyone be any worse, honestly how (im serious can someone explain to me that said Edwards is the best option how he is, what has he done at all)? Yes the line is to blame at some points but the guy wont take the shots put in someone that will, hell pay me league minimum I will gadly hand the ball off and heave it down the sideline at the end of halfs and end game.
Offensive playcalling: RUN RUN RUN PUNT, RUN RUN PASS PUNT. PLAYACTION RUN PASS PUNT. Repeat sequence the entire game obviously if you need to kick a field goal and/or score I hope you pickin up what im putting down with this. If you get a first down before you punt repeat what you just did.
I'm sorry to say this
but until further notice, our favorite team just plain stinks. There are glimmers of hope in but the smallest of doses, but it’s evident they’re going to need a more generous learning curve than we may have anticipated.
Go Bills
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions
Wanted Vick
Wanted Tebow, would still take either at this point. Also all those wanting Jason Campbell, he was benched this afternoon in Oakland. QB play needs to improve. Good thing about this season is that we as fans can look forward to a new QB next year……right? I hate to say it but I don’t think TE can do better…..
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I have no doubt.
Edwards is gone next year, he will not be re-signed.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 20, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
There will be revolts if Edwards is on the team next year....
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They need their QB, whoever that may end up being, to be an independent thinker.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If we had drafted Tebow, the team would look EXACTLY THE SAME RIGHT NOW.
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Doubt it.
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by silverstreak3k on Sep 20, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Leinart
I actually wouldn’t mind Leinart. Granted, I wouldn’t want the Bills to waste a draft pick or anything to get him from Houston. However, if he’s an UFA at the end of the season, I think he has much more to offer than people give him credit for. Granted it was pre-season and even TE looked good during pre-season, but he put up better numbers for AZ than Anderson did. Even further back, I was impressed with watching him quickly go through his progression. As quickly as you can count 1,2,3 out loud, he was checking his primary, then secondary, then third receiving options. He’s a smart quarterback, very competitive, and has solid skills. I think his stock dropped because people had unreasonable expectations he would come in his first couple years and turn AZ around. But just because he wasn’t the instant fix in AZ doesn’t mean he can’t be the caliber QB people first thought. There are 2 faults with him as I see it. He does throw picks, but I attribute that to being aggressive as opposed to Captain Checkdown. The only other negative is his questionable leadership. Again though, with some time under Warner and a little time since his rookie year to mature, he could be ready to step into a leadership role.
The simple answer is we need a dependable QB. Do we want a rookie who might still need a couple years to develop, or grab someone who’s still young but been in the league a couple years—at least as a gapper until any QB we draft is ready?
my thoughts running
I want to see Buffalo run against a defense that struggles against the run and see if they can gain some confidence.
The Bills cant ever abandon their running game because all of their talent is there, and the Oline apparently is supposed to be better at that. If other teams dont bring down safeties/stack the box then the Bills dont have anywhere near enough talent to pass and the games are going to be about like this. I only saw the second half but the Bills didnt look like they were running terribly. The bills rbs like to run right into defenders though, and they either arent following the fullback or the line isnt opening much for them. Also if you want to run to the outside, tight ends are needed. I dont know if Chan Gailey doesnt understand what the purpose of the position is or something but he has repeatedly sent McIntyre through the hole alone and then handed the ball to the running back who cuts outside and these are the plays that are blown up behind the line of scrimmage. I dont know where the TE we got from the dolphins is, but he had some good production and is the only one Id consider a veteran but yet isnt even seeing the field. Im ust an ignorant fan, but if I was in a position where my QB wont throw anything but screens and short passes Id might as well have a bunch of big targets around that could break tackles and not risk as much injury.
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by pasaluki on Sep 20, 2010 3:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Venting my frustration
It’s such a pain! Waking up on a Sunday morning at 7 a.m. is taking it’s toll me.
During today’s game I felt really guilty. Everytime Trent Edwards was sacked all I thought to myself was “Please don’t get up.” It’s not exciting watching this guy control the team, and not only that it’s not efficient as well.
I’m very aware that it’s a team game, and everyone is to blame for these struggles, but it seems like with Edwards taking snaps no body respects the Bills.
If fans can see it in his eyes that he’s not confident imagine what his teammates feel in the huddle. Imagine what opposing defenses feel!
Even if we witness a miracle and “Numero Stinko” turns it around I for one don’t want him to be the quarterback of the Buffalo Bills anymore.
I’m obviously not an expert, and I base my judgments on lines moving on NFL.com and lagging internet streams (too young to afford Direct TV and NFL Network), but at least with Ryan Fitzpatrick or even JP Losman taking snaps under center I felt that this team could win a game.
by Baron Hashimoto on Sep 20, 2010 5:49 AM EDT reply actions
I was pretty annoyed at Randy Cross yesterday as he summarized the AFC East QB situation. He stated there was a dearth of talent behind Brady, and lumped them all in as “young QBs.” I’m sorry, but Trent Edwards isn’t a young QB. He may not have had the benefit of learning in the same system over his time in the NFL, but he is far from a rookie.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
There is young talent in the AFC East. Sadly the talent doesn’t wear a Buffalo Bills jersey.
I guess you can make an argument that they have better talent and coaches around them, but don’t you have to come to a point and think to yourself, doesn’t the quarterback have to bring out the best from their surrounding cast?
by Baron Hashimoto on Sep 20, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant that Trent Edwards is far from young in terms of NFL experience.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
Randy Cross is really annoying and just plain bad as a color commentator!! BTW, I thought TE was done after that double shot he took in the first half!!
That was not a laterall!!!
by brendar of the bills people on Sep 20, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems to be showing heart and toughness, but it just isn’t enough.
by Baron Hashimoto on Sep 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve always said that if you predict you’ll lose by 40 and you only lose by 30, that’s a victory right there
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