Bills Sign TE David Martin; Claim OG Kraig Urbik
by Kurupt on Sep 5, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
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PrintIn a flurry of moves this afternoon, the Buffalo Bills have signed veteran TE David Martin, confirmed via Twitter by Adam Schefter. Martin was recently cut by the Miami Dolphins after spending two seasons with the team. He is an eight-year vet who played six season with Green Bay before playing his last two with the Dolphins. His addition was paved by the Bills' cutting of veteran TE J.P. Foschi earlier today.
In addition, the Bills were awarded OG Kraig Urbik off waivers from the Pittsburgh Steelers (same Schefter tweet). The 2009 third-round draft pick was released by the Steelers on Friday.
Martin will back up Jonathan Stupar at tight end. Urbik becomes the ninth offensive lineman the team employs, joining undrafted rookie Cordaro Howard as interior line depth. To make room for Urbik, the Bills released undrafted free agent safety Dominique Harris.
The Bills also added OL Jason Watkins and FB Rodney Ferguson to the practice squad, as they join Naaman Roosevelt and Joique Bell. Buffalo still has four spots remaining on their practice squad, and may not yet be done wheeling and dealing.
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Like the Martin signing. Urbik will be good depth just like he was on Pittsburgh!
Is it hockey season yet?
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Would have preferred Donald Thomas at Guard
Some experience would have been nice. Like Cordaro Howard, Urbik hasn’t played in an NFL game….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
same..
was really hoping to get Thomas
"the BUFFALO BILLS ARE COMING TO TOWN and I dont mean like Santa clause. WE will not Surrender this is were you all FALL The WHAGON BLASTER IS TAKING OFF AND YOU PUNKS are in our way, This wagon has no BREAKS so get ready for the ride of the life time"-abayarde
by HardBeingABillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they could still...
…pull the trigger on signing another OL. In fact, I’m hoping for the added depth with what we saw last year.
Becht and Thomas would have been best
But Martin and Urbik will do. Martin is a vet that’s better than Foschi. Urbik is better than the nobody they had backing up the offensive line’s interior.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
By nobody, I mean that they had no player. As opposed to Howard.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
As a lot of reports have said the Steelers saw a very steady rise in abilities from Urbik over the pre-season. He was just cut due to a numbers game. I like having this kid here. If he continues to develop at the pace he currently is he could very well be our starting RG next year, with Wood moved to C and Hang being our top interior line backup. I’m really liking what Urbik brings long term to this line.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
I’m not that ready to annoint a roster cut down casualty as the future RG. But he could be….
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I’m thinking that if it happens it would probably be about half way threw the 2011 season. Theres no doubt in my mind that if Wood isn’t our starting C by the end of this season, he is be the start of next season.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hearing he came from the Steelers makes me feel better
They seem to churn out good offensive linemen.
You would assume that Urbik has more talent than Howard though, considering he was a 3rd round pick only a year ago.
Is it hockey season yet?
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by UZ on Sep 5, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
james hardy was a second rounder jamarcus russell was a 1st rounder and tom brady was a 6th where you're drafted dont matter if the team that drafts you cant sniff talent
by Gpluehri on Sep 5, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, you can’t get excited about a guy’s draft position once he’s cut. If anything that makes a team hold onto that player longer.
The Steeler page had a couple people disappointed, but it didn’t sound like they thought it was any great loss.
The Bills are loading up on OL from the 09 draft now: Wood, Levitre, Meredith and now Urbik.
it don't?!
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 5, 2010 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you saying the Steelers dont know how to draft?
because I would definitely disagree with you.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody is talented
if they get a chance to make an NFL team. Being drafted doesn’t mean results. It just means you might have had better “measurables” or played at a bigger school. At the end of the day all that matters is what happens between the lines. During the game draft position is meaningless.
Martin is a very good backup TE with solid catching skills and adequate blocker. Urbik showed improvement this preseason and is a mauling run-blocker, though his pass-protecting still remains his issue
"The one commonality in both places (Oakland and Buffalo) is an aging owner who keeps interfering too much. Ralph Wilson continually butts his nose in the football operation and tells the team who to draft"
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Sep 5, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Urbik is intriguing – wasn’t he a 3rd or 4th round pick last year? if that’s the case then he might suck for Pitt to cut him. or is the Steelers line depth really good?
Martin has some knee issues i’m pretty sure – hopefully he can get past any injuries he’s had….or has – but he’s a solid pickup
Listen! You smell something?
From "Behind the Steel Curtain"
One of the reasons Hartwig and his $2 million price tag are/were deemed expendable was the maturation and versatility of second-year lineman Kraig Urbik. It was said he improved a bit over his rookie season, and had the ability to play both guard positions, and even spent some time at center.
But it seems as if Urbik may be on the Turk’s agenda of players to visit this afternoon as well.
If true, it shows how much faith the team has in other young linemen, like Tony Hills, Doug Legursky and Ramon Foster. Or, at the very least, it shows the premium the Steeles (and other teams) place on versatility.
Again, if this is what happens, the Steelers are likely going with nine lineman – (T) Max Starks, Flozell Adams, Jonathan Scott, Hills, (G) Chris Kemoeatu, Trai Essex, Ramon Foster, © Pouncey and Legursky.
Legursky’s versatility is what would lead the team to release Urbik, the 2009 third-round draft pick out of Wisconsin. While Urbik played center on the second team for minicamp and part of training camp, Legursky’s quickness has kept coaches’ eyes on his ability as a lead blocking fullback.
scott,
what doe’s this say about jonathan
FRANK
maybe the steelers like him
he doens’t play the same position as Urbik though, so the release doesn’t mean much concerning scott. Also, where is this misconception that the steelers have great linemen come from? They haven’t had a good line in years. That’s why Big Ben’s mobility is so important to them.
CJ Spiller: CJ stands for Chris Johnson.
Dolphins fan here
Good pick up with Martin, he will still be good this year. One of the bad moves Miami made by cutting him. I believe they tried to sneak him back on the roster after week 1…ughhh good one Bills
by afceast on Sep 5, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks for the recognition. Looking forward to our week 1 match up!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey afceast, what is Parcell and Saparano doing there? You guys cut some veteran players today, I don’t get the moves (not that I’m complaining),
Wish I knew
Seems like they are taking the “getting younger” movement a little to far. I hope they bring atleast Grant or Mcdaniels back after week 1…18 1st or 2nd year players on the 53 may hurt us alot. Sean Smith out as starter week 1 and Jason Allen in. Will Allen to IR VERY tough day
by afceast on Sep 5, 2010 5:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good
Can’t wait to see J. Allen get burnt in week 1.
What’s Smith’s injury?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
No Injury
Seems to be in the doghouse had a horrible preseason and no effort at all in camp…hopefully he gets it together sooner than later
by afceast on Sep 5, 2010 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well I will say that your coaching staff is taking the right attitude towards a player that’s not showing any effort. Although it will hurt your team.
Looking forward to meeting you guys now that you don’t have a CB that can keep up with Evans ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
But Vontae Davis is the cb1…he’s been that since the end of last season. Its funny with all of Miamis head scratching moves today and the Jets releasing Tony Richardson and others and some off the Pats season ending injuries the Bills might have had the strongest pre- season. Crazy thought lol
by afceast on Sep 5, 2010 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn forgot about Vontae. Ok I take it back, you have one CB that can keep up with Evans.
And while I so much want to agree that the Bills had the best pre-season in the AFC east, I will also remind you that the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason before going 0-16 in the regular season 2 years ago. Pre-Season means nothing. Don’t mean that I’m not extremely excited to see how big of a surprise my Bills will be this year.
As for Richardson, I’d sign him in a nanosecond if I was Buddy Nix.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree on T-Rich
Good player and great locker room leader. Yea I understand but not looking at wins and loses but Edwards has played well and Spiller looks like the real deal. I am much more worried about this game now than a dew weeks ago. Buffalo will compete with alot of teams on Henne Given Sunday lol
by afceast on Sep 5, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your To Kind
But alas, I must agree with you. I think we’ll take some teams by surprise, especially at start of season. Good luck, GO BILLS
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What is this????
“good luck” to an upcoming opponent???
Let me fix it for you….
May Miami, players, and fans, be swarmed as only a Bohemian Camel Flea molester may know… May Bison feces fill your plates, as you “quench” your thirst, with the promise of streams from Rumblers tailgates…
I too, as a Bills fan, wish the Phish “luck”…. Of the worst kind… And truly invite you to join our revelry!!!! Good food and drink!!! That only a catfish, or plane, or patsy, could enjoy….
Whew!!! Glad I got that off my chest!!!! Let the season begin!!!!!
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
by Cinga on Sep 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sinff...
…that was beautiful, man.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Wow you guys are cold and heartless.
Glad to have you on the team!
To afeceast, no offense meant, just remember, you are a fish fan and we are true billievers! ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wimp...
To afeceast, no offense meant,
Speak for yourself… I meant every offense and word I wrote….
:-)
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
I guess it’s just my Canadian nature, I’m too damn nice.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes Two Of Us
I’ll let the team make the statement first, then talk smack…
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Its hard to deprogram that, isn’t it?
Why I'm a optimistic Bills fan:
The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination.
- Marion Zimmer Bradley
Increadibly.
But in the end I’d still rather be polite than ameri….er… mean spirited. ;-)
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 6, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
rec’d, just trying to kill’em with kindness. Your method more direct!
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Just call us Buffalo Poison!
And we are gonna rain down as a plane load of corexit until them dolphins are floating belly up in the water!
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of after week 1
Assuming Martin isn’t cut in the next week, he’s going to be on this roster all year since his salary will be guaranteed once he’s on the opening day roster. I’m going to go ahead and say that’s a good thing as Martin is a solid vet and should be a good #2 TE for us, or even a #1A.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
If Nelson is in the dog house and Stupar is our starter, 1A is a very strong possibility.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
Martin was brought in not only as TE depth but for a little insight and intel as to what the Dolphins may have in store for us in Week 1. That Chix, clever little duo…
Like
Lawyer Milloy?
The last time we beat the Patsies.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Chix
Is better at drafting and strategy than,
Williamshoe.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Rest of the Practice Squad
I’d go with Duncan for DL depth, Harris for DB depth (or Sargeant, since he can play CB and S), Levi Brown, and Nick Hennessey for more OL depth. Buffalo is already carrying 10 LB’s, so they shouldn’t need much depth on the PS at that position.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I’d add Donovan Woods to the PS, he impressed me enough.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Much relief
I’m feeling a lot better after these two moves. Why did the Steelers cut Urbik? Remember that our incompetent o-line coach from last year is the guy running their o-line this year. I’m sure he has no idea what he is doing. Now all we need is a good RT to back-up Meredith when he replaces Green.
Sarcasm or not?
Remember that our incompetent o-line coach from last year is the guy running their o-line this year. I’m sure he has no idea what he is doing.
I can’t tell.
Really.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
IMO
Our line coach from last year would of held out Bell and Wood for the first two games and then played them most of games 3&4 in the preseason. This guy is filtering them in like pitchers, counting reps Vs thrown balls. I still feel confident that if healthy we will be okay and get stronger up front as the season goes forward. God we have to stay healthy though.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
No sarcasm whatsoever. I thought Sean Kugler was way over his head as an o-line coach. The difference between last year’s run-blocking and this year’s tells it all. We now have a coach who knows how to prepare his guys. As for the Steelers, they have Jonathan Scott and a burned-out Flozell Adams on their roster and let Kraig Urbik go. Good luck to them with Kugler managing their o-line.
I thought that it was not sarcasm
But I couldn’t tell.
I think Sean Kugler will be a great OL coach. Key word being “will.” He still needs to be an assistant to someone right now. I agree with your assessment.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Uh........do you not remember some of the "gem" Kulger had to work with last year?
He was one of the few assistance that could have been considered successful.
I have nothing but great things to say about Kulger and the job he did for the team.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
14 different linemen were used over the course of a year.............and countless many combinations.......
bashing Kulger is wrong IMO.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure he was bashing Kugler
I think Macktruck and I are saying something similar: Kugler is a good coach that wasn’t ready to be a full-time OL coach. And certainly not ready to deal with the mess that Buffalo’s OL was last season.
2-3 more years under a great OL coach and he’s going to be great. Look how long Pete Metzelaars was the assistant in Indy before moving up.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
saying that he was "way over his head" is not bashing the guy?
Claiming that Kulger didnt know how to prepare his guys?
That doesnt sound like he liked the guy all that much to me.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I see it differently
Alex Van Pelt is a guy that I really like. But he’s, at best, an assistant QB coach at this point in his career. I’d say he was over his head as a QB coach, and way over his head as the OC. I doubt that he really knew what it took to prepare a QB and the offense to play.
In comparison, Gailey and Cortez have the same group of guys (minus TO and plus Spiller) that struggled to make first downs last year, looking like a competent, efficient and sometimes explosive offense.
AVP isn’t a bad guy or coach. I don’t think it’s bashing him to say he was over his head and didn’t know how to prepare the offense or Edwards. Same with Kugler.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
As bad as the team was offensively last year.........30th overall
They managed to finish 16th in total rushing offense……..I’d say that was partially due to Kulger figuring out a way to make due with what he had.
The team was also 9th in the league in YPA running the ball……..thats pretty darn good.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Running the ball is way easier for a young/new OL to learn
The line is attacking the defense. In pass protection, the defense is attacking the OL, and the OL has to react.
Alex Gibbs routinely takes crappy O-lines and turns them into run-blocking machines.
That said, ESPN is saying that Seattle RT Sean Locklear is available. Seattle had Locklear playing LT last year, but he’s really a RT. Locklear is far better than Green. I’d trade a mid-rounder to Seattle in a nanosecond for Locklear. Seattle: another front office and head coach making some questionable moves.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Still I realize running the ball is easier........but the Bills were better at it than half the league.
Can you honestly imagine the Bills being better than the league at ANYTHING last year?
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Pass Defense
ranked 2nd
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
I guess I should have stated "offensively"
but your point still stands.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
one shining star on an otherwise bleak team.
Never really thought of this, but the one dimension of football that Jauron excelled at teaching, was actually good during his tenure here. Go figure!
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
No Doubt
Locklear is a solid lineman, would be a upgrade. Live in Seattle and very confused by FO of Seahawks.
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I was looking at Field Gulls this morning
And there are just kinda rolling with it. But really what else can you do?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Yes, we are saying about the same thing. Kugler had just become an assistant o-line coach in the NFL when Mouse McNally was let go. Instead of doing the right thing and conducting a full search to find a first-rate position coach, Jauron took the easy way out and elevated Kugler way before he was ready. Kugler then went along with so much of the nonsense that occured to mess up the o-line last year — the decision to go no-huddle, to move Langston Walker to LT and then let him go, etc. It’s true that Kugler was a younger member of the coaching staff, but so far as one can tell he sure didn’t let it be known that the things his o-line was being asked to do made no sense at all and were likely to lead to disaster.
Where we disagree is your prognosis that he will be a “great coach” someday. I’m not sure he’s that smart. At times last year he actually had his players lining up illegally (i.e., in the Pats game), and his ability to design good blocking schemes was primitive compared to what we are seeing this year. Maybe that’s inexperience, but perhaps it’s also a lack of basic ability. I do think, though, that he might become a decent coach with the right mentoring for another three or four years. Whatever the case, he is not ready this year, which is what may account for all the screwy o-line decisions the Steelers seem to be making, including the release of Urbek.
I think any decent coach working under a good primary coach can be great
And Kugler’s no exception. I think he had to work through a disaster last year. He, in part, created it with the Walker moves. But the limitations of the offense, with a green OC in AVP, were to blame. The blocking schemes we see out of the Gailey offense support a seasoned play caller who designed an offense around his personnel. AVP was taking Schonert’s offense, which was not personnel friendly, and tried to morph it (simplify it). I don’t think any blocking scheme other than basic stuff would have been adequate. Particularly with the team shuttling street free agents into the starting line-up every week.
Agreed that Jauron promoted him too soon. And I can’t understand why the Steelers would make him their OL coach. His road to failure is being a primary OL coach. As an assistant, he should eventually see success.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Yes, our diagnosis of what happened on offense last year is about the same. But the o-line was terrible the previous year when Schonert was in place — again because Kugler was so green. His problem is that he is probably never going to get the chance to be an assistant under a master coach now that he has reached his present status. Exactly as you say, “His road to failure is being a primary OL coach.” Which means we will probably never get the chance to find out how capable he could have been if he had gotten the right mentoring.
Moving up is kind since the guy he worked under for forever is still there.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 6, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome. I was hoping that we'd pick up Urbik!
He’ll be great depth for our interior line, being able to play both guard positions. Plus his up side is fantastic. I truly see an interior line of Levitre – Wood – Urbik being the Bills future. Man that will be solid!
As for Martin, I really like this move. He’s Anthony Becht with the ability to catch a ball.
I’m really loving Nix today! This is what happens when you have a GM that knows how to do his job. Keep up the great work Buddy!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
It's also what happens when the organization is fully competent in the front office
The hiring of Doug Whaley as the director or Pro Personnel (scouting) is the single best move Nix made.
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Entirely agree. And i think it might be Whaley, not Nix, that brought in Urbik. Insider knowledge at work might pay big dividend in the long run.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Just saying this was probably done in large part due to Whaley.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Whaley: “Buddy, Pittsburgh just waived Kraig Urbik. We need to get this guy.”
Nix: “Do it.” (in a southern accent)
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
lol, my thoughts exactly.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I just pictured Nix putting on sunglasses a’la David Caruso before saying that.
Is it hockey season yet?
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by UZ on Sep 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yyeeeeoooooowwwwwww
That’s the best BABA O you can get on keyboard.
by JonasPounder on Sep 5, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, yes. This is why it’s so crucial to have a really god GM. Last year we didn’t have any, and this year we have two excellent ones in Nix and Whaley. It makes all the difference.
I would add Modrak to that list.
As a talent evaluator, I love Modrak.
As a decision maker…. meh.
Put Nix, Whaley, and Modrak together with a competent head coach, and presto, good decisions follow. A couple of years of it, and a winning team follows.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Let's just hope we can keep all these guys around.
One of the biggest problems we’ve had is the lack of continuity we’ve had on the front office. And that goes with the head coach. We never should have jumped the gun with Greg Williams IMO. I never understood what happened with Malarkey, eith him resigning. I don’t even know how many GMs or Not GMs we’ve gone through. I hate to even say it but, hopefully Mr. Wilson remains healthy and lives to be 100. I love what these guys are doing, and the offense is really exciting so far. This organization could really use some stability.
by JonasPounder on Sep 5, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys checkout yahoo
They’ve got Bell on the front page. It’s discussing how he and others may be PS players, but they’re still getting paid.
by JonasPounder on Sep 5, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Urbik
was he a numbers cut? or is he just not that good?
Yeah, Pittsburg stocked up on the O-Line during the off-season and the draft. By everything I’ve read about Urbik they were impressed by him but had a few other options there were as good and cheaper. But hey that’s a win for us.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
Thanks for doing the research. Not to be the pessimist though, I am putting it in the category of a win for us as well but no more of a win than a Jarmon Meredith win from last season. He will need some coaching and game experience. Right now he has had limited to none. Still worthy of being excited.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
My thoughts exactly. And a very good comparison.
Urbik may need some work, but claiming him just renforces the mentality that this team is looking ahead 2-3 years and not just looking to this year and a quick fix.
How do you build a strong team? By drafting well and signing young players and developing them into your system. Nix has been doing exactly that from day one. I’m very excited to see how the next few season turn out for us!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's not overlook the Rodney Ferguson PS addition.
We have a second FB to back up Corey. I like Corey and I think Chan does too. I also expect the FB to be utilized a great deal this season, when needed or as a diversion. Rodney didn’t get alot of reps in preseason but when he did as Corey he made plays. I think this is more good than surprising.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
BREAKING NEWS:
Seattle FB and former pre-draft mancrush of many Rumblers, Owen Schmitt has been cut! I can’t wait to see the fawning over potentially signing him.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
It starts here
And getting cut by Pete Carroll doesn’t mean your bad……..lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I’d rather wait out for Owen Marecic myself.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Richardson got cut today as well.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
thats because the Jets have a younger, faster, stronger version to replace him.....
and cheaper.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Connorisgoing to struggle for at least the first half of the season
I havent been blown away by what I’ve seen from him so far.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
According to Hard Knocks, all he does is blow people away
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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
See him I’d sign in a nanosecond!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign him....
Heck, with his “attitude”, we need no one else as a lead blocker… Including O linemen!!!
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
loved him in WVU
he is the guy that cracked his head open with his own helmet last year
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
C'mon man!
How can you not absolute want a head bashing fullback like Schmitt on the team. I don’t care if the only thing he can do is iso block… I’d take him just for his effect on the power run game.
And if he still has a mohawk, that’s only icing on the fullback-smash cake.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Why wouldn't I, or anyone, want him?
Of course I’d want him if he’s an upgrade over McIntyre. Love that style.
I just found it humorous how many people were IN LOVE with this guy pre-draft last year….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
kinda like how you and Brian were in love with Gholston in 2008........
hehehe
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Tracking
There’s always room for a Madison Hedgecock-style crushing FB on my roster. That’s what Schmitt is. Meat and potatos is blocker that can catch a bit on play action. That kind of FB could really open some space for Spiller.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
The Pats cut Tyrone Mackenzie today.
I would love for him to be brought in for some LB depth.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
depth?
we have 10 linebackers on the team now.
who would you cut?
Cary Harris
Or Keith Ellison.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Ellison is staying at least until the full transition to the 3-4 is complete.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
TYRONE!
Loved that dude ever since his TCU days, but I don’t know how he would fit here.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
He went to USF
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Failure. :(
I feel like an idiot now, don’t know how I thought he was on TCU. I was thinking of Phillips…super brain fart.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
He shredded his knee last summer
I wonder if he is still being slowed by that??
He must have PS eligibility still; I’d love to try to pick him up for ours….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He was on IR last year. That doesn’t cut as an accrued season right?
You can't have CHANGE without CHAN.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 5, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I’m wondering….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Looks like he is/was eligible
Don’t you need to be on the active roster? He definitely wasn’t on that last year….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah you need to be on active roster for an accrued season which is 6 games I believe.
You can't have CHANGE without CHAN.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 6, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
OK..I have to ask.
Why do so many Rumblers think that someone who has been cut from someone else’s roster is better than the players on our roster?
It seems to me to be an indictment of our front office and coaching staff.
Actually, it’s an indictment on the guys they’re replacing.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 5, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Bang On !
It shows how poorly we drafted – ie 2008 Hardy etc – oh, and the fact we brought in few decent FA’s.
Could be worse – we could have had Miami’s 2009 Draft – Rounds 2 and 3 already Cut ! OUCH !
3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !
Why do teams sign and cut players the day after final cuts??
Miami was extremely busy today. With the logic here, he must be doing a pretty poor job then.
Some other team’s 54th, 55th, 56th, etc guy might be better than another 50th, 51st, 52nd, 53rd…It happens every year. That doesn’t mean the front offices of the teams adding players are incompetent or that it’s an indictment on their ability….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Teams also focus on different positions. For instance, Buffalo carried more running backs than they knew they would carry over. A team like Pittsburgh had more offensive linemen then they would carry on their active 53. Just like Bell could have ended up as a backup on some teams but the Bills cut him anyways, other teams drop players simply because there is no room for them in their 53 man roster.
Not necessarily
Different teams have different needs and what may be an area of extreme depth for one team can be one of weakness for another. The Steelers have considerable depth at offensive line and could not afford to keep everyone. The Bills lack of depth on the OL is legendary. Urbik is a wonderful and necessary pickup for this squad.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Well Said
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Because in all honesty, your roster SUCKS in the depth department.
And these two guys bring a lot of depth, even in the case of an inexperience Urbik.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
law of averages
All teams are not equal, that’s why one team’s cuts may be good enough on another team. For example, the team with the best linebacking corps who cut a player may be cutting someone who could start on the team with the worst linebacking corps. And because we happen to be the worst at (at least) two positions – OL and LB – a good team’s trash is our treasure. It’s only an indictment of members of our front office or coaching staff that were responsible for us being the worst in the first place.
OT: Sporting News Top NFL Coaches
Sporting News’ NFL writers and editors factored in championships, won-lost record, creativity, motivational skills, ability to limit turnovers/penalties and hiring and maintaining a quality staff. Here are their ratings for the NFL head coaches:
1. Bill Belichick, Patriots
2. Sean Payton, Saints
3. Jeff Fisher, Titans
4. Mike Shanahan, Redskins
5. Mike Tomlin, Steelers
6. Andy Reid, Eagles
7. Tom Coughlin, Giants
8. Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals
9. John Harbaugh, Ravens
10. Rex Ryan, Jets
11. Mike McCarthy, Packers
12. Jim Caldwell, Colts
13. John Fox, Panthers
14. Brad Childress, Vikings
15. Wade Phillips, Cowboys
16. Mike Smith(notes), Falcons
17. Tony Sparano, Dolphins
18. Marvin Lewis, Bengals
19. Norv Turner, Chargers
20. Lovie Smith, Bears
21. Mike Singletary, 49ers
22. Jack Del Rio, Jaguars
23. Pete Carroll, Seahawks
24. Gary Kubiak, Texans
25. Eric Mangini, Browns
26. Josh McDaniels, Broncos
27. Todd Haley, Chiefs
28. Chan Gailey, Bills
29. Tom Cable, Raiders
30. Jim Schwartz, Lions
31. Raheem Morris, Buccaneers
32. Steve Spagnuolo, Rams
Trash!
Are you serious?! Wade Phillips in the middle of the pack on that with Gary Kubiak towards the bottom?
Middle of the pack sounds good for Wade..........
His teams are consistantly middle of the pack/upper level of the league……..
As for Kubiak…….he hasnt done anything to be higher…….(never made the playoffs or anything)
Its actually sad that he’s ahead of Chan IMO.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the standards they used, I understand Wade in the middle of the pack. But given the talent he’s had in Dallas and his inability to get the most out of that, I’d rate him lower. I think Kubiak produces results better than the talent on his team which is why I think he should be rated higher. We’ll see how Chan pans out. Hopefully he’s shooting towards the top of this list shortly.
it almost looks to me like the list could be a team power ranking list......
instead of a coaches power ranking list.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
Sporting News ranking Mangini at #25. Weren’t they the publication that started calling him “Man-genius” a couple of years ago? I guess one of the factors they forgot to account for was how good they considered a particular coach previously.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Rediculous!
How could they rate John Fox so high? I am confident that Chan will move up the chart before the season is half over.
"If you dog one of us, you dog all of us" - Chan Gailey
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Uh because he has a career .554 reg season record.......
a .625 playoff record……….2 NFC title game apperances, 1 super bowl apperance lost at the end………and 2 Division titles.
He’s pretty dang good.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And all while playing Payton Manning at least twice per year.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
uh..............
no………..that is incorrect.
NFC south…………not AFC.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oups my bad, I thought I read Jeff Fisher there.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting to a Super Bowl doesn't seem to mean much
After all, there is a former conference champion sitting at #20.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Lovie Smith has a worse Reg Season and Playoff record.......
not to mention hasnt been to the playoffs since he went to the Super Bowl…..
Thats probably why he’s lower.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
McDaniels is way too high!
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
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by UZ on Sep 5, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I’d be comfortable with switching Chan with McDaniels and then I’d be willing to call it a fair(ish) assessment.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Todd Freaking Haley is above Chan too........
Granted I am the last person to defend Chan……….but again I think its more based on talent on the Roster plus Coach recognition.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The real headscratcher for me.
26 Josh McDaniels
27 Todd Haley
28 Chan Gailey
I mean what has McDaniels done as a HC but one season with a huge 2nd half collapse.
Todd Haley 1 HC season 4-12.
Chan has at least made the playoffs twice as a HC, he should be ahead of those 2 at very least.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
12 years ago.........
hardly an argument I would consider using……..
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s still accomplished more.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Has he as a coach really changed that much in that 12 years?
Is it hockey season yet?
BUFFALO NATION WILL see your BUFFALO BILLS KICK THE soul out of the TUNA FISH FLIPPER ACE VENTURA OILY FLAUNDER NO TAIL SHAMUU WHANA BEs - abayarde
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by UZ on Sep 5, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Coaches can change that much
Compare the Kansas City Marv Levy to the Buffalo Marv Levy.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Its not him changing so much......
its more of the NFL changing………….The NFL has changed alot since 1998-1999.
Changed more than a few times too.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so how could you possibly know if he’s adapted or not?
I don’t get your blind seemingly unwillingness to give him a shot. I don’t know if he’s going to be successful – but I’m at least willing to give the guy a chance
Listen! You smell something?
by J2 on Sep 5, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
who says Im not giving him a chance?
I’ve openly praised decisions he’s made so far when it comes to game planning, and play selection…….
It’s not an all encompassing seal of approval by any means…….but its not “blind acceptance” either.
I really dont have much to complain about so far……….and I havent much, if any, during the preseason.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re always ripping on him – Chan Gailey’s #1 fan
Listen! You smell something?
by J2 on Sep 5, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hey hey I took that down.........
:-)
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
norv turner
so much for chargers intelligence.
if he is the 19th best head coach, and for yrs everyone has said what
great talent sd has, then why is it that a team can find great player talent
yet settle for a mediocrity like norv turner as head coach.
the idea that gailey is 28th is just another cheap shot at buffalo.
so i guess if the bills beat miami that would mean a team with no talent
and a poor head coach beat a team with superior talent and coaching.
wow, i wonder what the spread is?
i wonder where jack del rio would have been ranked 2 yrs ago? lol
top 10 i am sure…
Does anyone know
more about Martin’s knee injury last year? I can’t find much on it. He missed all of 2009.
Martin
He has knee swelling and a sports hernia.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I like the moves Nix..........
solid.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
I like the moves.
Cautious to anoint either of them successful pickups though. Let’s see if they pan out.
Blame where you must, be candid where you can, And be each critic the Good-natured Man. - Oliver Goldsmith (Excellent advice)
Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
If all Urbik ever pans out to be is a steady backup for both G positions—possibly even C—I’d still be happy. Everyone looks at the glamour positions to determine the strength of a team. After years of missing the playoffs, I hope the Bills are finally seeing that the line determines the success or failure of a team. It doesn’t matter if you have the top QB or top RB or top WR. If that line doesn’t produce, either will those players. But with a solid line, even a mediocre QB, RB, WR, or TE can shine.
by jcey on Sep 5, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chan made the comment that it’s tough to expect the O lineman play every down even when healthy. Back ups are going to play.
That's great IF...
…they can do it while preserving chemistry on the line. Fresh legs on the OL are great but not at the expense of chemistry. If Chan can work a way to have both, he’d truly be genius!
Weird that you said that. When I heard Chan mention that in the presser, I immediately thought of chemistry too.
Chan made the comment that it’s tough to expect the O lineman play every down even when healthy. Back ups are going to play.
But why wait till 7 days before the season to get backups? The depth chart has looked the same for months!
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
Because in a rebuilding phase, they’re not about to trade away draft picks for backups. That would make little sense when they knew come cut day, there would be some solid backups available. Then with the exception of at RB and the secondary, the Bills have little trade bait. Then again, trading away a RB could threaten the run heavy O Chan wants, and trading away the secondary kills the depth there—potentially weakening the pass D. Smart move to wait on the cuts IMO.
Because if you wait until cutdown day, you can get better back-ups without sacrificing picks
Urbik could have been had two months ago for a 5th round pick. Now he’s a Bill without giving up anything.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Not only that
But if you’re going to make those kind of moves, might as well do it on the O-line. It’s one of the easier positions to pick up, as was evidenced in our constant reshuffling last year.
I couldn't agree more
Blame where you must, be candid where you can, And be each critic the Good-natured Man. - Oliver Goldsmith (Excellent advice)
Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
by Dyl on Sep 5, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Urbik
The Kid is huge, sounds like a solid pick-up. I’m impressed with FO moves so far. More OL acquisitions like this would be good.
Home of "Spiller the Thriller"
Me 3!
I just took a look another look at the depth chart. Am I crazy for thinking that if the OL plays well, and the injury bug doesn’t hit that the Bills just might be able to get a wild card spot this year? I think our D is solid—has been. I think the weakness on D has been that the offense hasn’t been able to chew enough time off the clock. If the offense can do that more consistent this year—keep the D rested—even if they’re just getting field goals, the Bills could pull it out.
Am I crazy
Yes
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Why you say that? Rebuilding year or not, what do you see holding them back assumingthe OL held their own this year?
we're all a little crazy..........
:-)
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!
and Brian, And K, and Ron, and Joe, and MRW, and…… Oh heck with it… I can’t think of anyone else but me, who isn’t crazy!!!!
Scary!!!
The draft dawns a new year for Buffalo Bills fans, so let optimism reign supreme!!! After all, we are now, UNDEFEATED!!!!
Rec'd!
Couldn’t agree more!
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting off the field on defense.
Getting off the field on defense.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
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I meant that getting off the field on defense would hold them back this year.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
What Do You See Holding Them Back
Schedule and opposing teams…..
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be just as crazy as you..
In six days and seventeen hours. When we destroy the Dolphins.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Sep 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Urbik – a Doug Whaley move perhaps?
I like both signings.
Poor Dominique Harris. Makes the team one day and the next he is cut. He’ll be on the PS probably.
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At least he knows he was at the top of the practice squad
Probably didn’t think he was going to make the team at all.
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by Dyl on Sep 5, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Owen Schmitt was cut by the Seahawks
I was hoping the Bills would have drafted him. He was a beast coming out of WV. Would he be an upgrade over McIntyre? Run blocking yes. Pass catching and running maybe not.
I’d much rather we go out and sign Tony Richardson who was released by the Jets today.
Starcraft II: the ultimate sleep depraver.
by CanadianBillsFan on Sep 5, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If it were a couple years ago I’d say yes but with Chix going with a youth movement, I’d go with Schmitt.
Any good youth movement needs strong leadership
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Chuck Knox, when he became coach of the Bills way back when, brought in a veteran or two who simply knew what it took to win. That influence can’t be disregarded. I’m not saying they definitely should bring in T.R., but the influence of veterans who know how to win can be priceless.
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Remember it well
Dobler, Villipiano, Robertson
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "
Good
We got HC and his staff….
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by buffalobacker on Sep 5, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
I believe Schmitt is a much better threat in the passing game than McIntyre. I seem to remember Schmitt having few games with 2, 3 and 4 catches. I cannot honestly say that for McIntyre. Maybe that many in a year ?
3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !
Like it...
Solid moves…
Matt Wilhelm (ILB) and Bruce Davis (OLB) were cut by the 49ers, either would be an upgrade over Ellison IMO, maybe even Mitchell. Lets keep it going Nix!
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Love it
Urbik will end of being a great get!
by FergusonQB12 on Sep 5, 2010 9:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lets get Tony Richerdson
he would have some anger when playing the Jets
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
Please pick up Troy Smith...
Once he learns the system he would be a solid #2, then Fitz could be our Alex Van Pelt #3. Brohm could take the practice squad spot as I am sure no one will pick him up…sorry all you Brohm lovers out there.
Again… they didn’t even put their own draft pick on the practice squad. They’re not gonna give a slot to some scrub who couldn’t stick in Baltimore.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 5, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know if this is true, because I dont have Twitter........
but according to a post I read on BBMB Levi Brown was ticked off he didnt get a PS invite from the Bills.
Someone with his twitter access would have to confirm that though.
Thought it was interesting.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
NEVER woulda guessed id be in this position right now…not even a practice squad invite. i’ve now officially gone from surprised to pissed!
by Brian Galliford on Sep 5, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Give it a chance kid!!
Your time will come.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
see there we go..........
thanks
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
not familiar if there’s a time limit on how long they have to add players to the PS. Know there are limited spots though, so they may be trying to pull some other players, and if there’s room might add him. You never know. That, or they may have realized he would be more of a project than they’re prepared to put the time into.
Hmmm...
A 7th round pick out of Troy that ran a spread offense being pissed? Yeah I guess that makes sense. Maybe he needs to watch that pick he threw in the Lions game again where there wasn’t a guy with a red helmet within 10 yards of where he threw the ball. I am a little surprised though that he hasn’t been invited to the practice squad yet. I think it is coming soon.
Has the practice squad's 8 players been finalized?
I’m still only tracking Bell, Roosevelt, Ferguson, and Watkins, as listed above. So Brown’s still got time. I think.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
How much can it suck to be Dominique Harris...
You lose sleep before cut day worrying about your future, make the cut, and become filled with elation and relief. You give an interview talking about how great you feel and then you’re cut the next day. WOW
You give an interview talking about how great you feel and then you’re cut the next day. WOW
Thats the crappy part of the NFL ’Business"
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Lots of interest in Urbik on the waiver wire today.....
Guard Kraig Urbik was popular today. Sent to Bills off waivers from PIT, but Bengals, Jets, Broncos and Dolphins all put in claims.
Nice to stick it to the Jets and Dolphins, and two other AFC teams!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
sad to realize though..........they only got him because they suck.
just another reason to show how awful the team was………
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather look to the future
That keep talking about how bad this team has been. Hopefully, getting Urbik this way is a blessing in disguise.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
that is true......
that is a plus of being bad…………..
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Your name sounds like you have a starring role in a few X-rated videos.......
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
But Urbik is just a nice Waiver pickup. A Close friend who follows the Steelers very closely assures me it’s a case of “good riddance” over there. In his time there he has shown nothing to make him believe he can block in the passing game at all.
I like everyone else here have high hopes – but my friend is a fully accredited ref who has ref’d many international games and has been ref coached at the pro bowl on multiple occasions. He knows what to look for – so his harsh criticism makes me wonder if we’re all just a tad too hopefully about how Urbik will turn out.
After all, the Steelers are not renowned for great O’Lines the last few years – they have been below par at best – by their own admissions.
Anyway, fingers crossed re Urbik – definately worth a “free shot” in getting him.
3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !
Remember
Indy only got Peyton Manning because they sucked. Urbik is not anything like a Peyton Manning, but sometimes being worse ends up as a good thing.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 6, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
How does this claim piece work? I’m sure the player waived goes to the team with the worst record but does that work for every claim? Will the Bills be awarded everytime if all the other teams have a worse record?
Goes to the team with the worst record
I suppose the Rams could have claimed and gotten whoever they wanted. Of course, they’d have to release the same number of players, so it’s not like the bad teams will be out claiming everyone they can….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I believe once you claim someone who go back to the bottom of the list.......
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like that signing
Urbik is said to have a real mean streak and great in run blocking.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Um.........Tampa Bay just signed J. Bell from our PS.
according to WIVB
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
maybe I was wrong........
I “heard” it……..but I dont see any confirmation.
Sorry guys.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just checked the website and didn't see anything
Did you hear it on TV?
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Friend of mine who lives in Buffalo said he heard it on the 10PM news.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he heard wrong
But if so, those are the breaks. We get Martin and Urbik and lose Bell.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
DON'T DO THAT TO US!
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
Not on his twitter page that he updated about half hour ago....
And nowhere else. I’ll trust the Schefter, Wilson and LaCanfora’s over some Buffalo news report.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Local news generally gets a bead on things before it goes to a national level…let’s hope this is not the case for Bell.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
Not anymore
When was the last time some Buffalo news station was the first to break a story?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not sure
Don’t live in Buffalo :)
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
They broke the TO signing.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Anthony Galea
Actually a very good job of investigative reporting. They broke the story about the Toronto Dr. illegally selling HDH in the States. Same Dr. that treats Tiger Woods.
Brian Brohm signing was broken by WIVB I think. Maybe Jamon Meredith, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, he already signed for our PS
After not being claimed on waivers….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
yeah but any team can sign them to their active roster.
but anyways I just know what my buddy texted me………obviously I cannot watch WIVB.
Maybe someone else can.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I got WIVB 11 o clock on
sports should be up in the next 7-10 minutes.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Does WIVB even have a 10pm newscast???
That seems to be when the “news” came out….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
they show a 10 o’clock on their sister station cw23
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I just texted my buddy and he said it was some guy named Peck
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
mike peck?
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
actually paul peck
i dont watch 4 much
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
they are on weather
sports will be next after the commercial
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome thanks.....
If not Imma have to slap my buddy in the face with a trout next time.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely could have merit
They basically have Cadillac & Graham, so Bell would fit in just fine
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
They (the Bucs) signed another RB earlier today.
Kregg Lumpkin……….or something like that.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Same Way
We picked up Meredith last year. Signed him to our active roster off Packers PS.
Not sure if he is offered a slot if we get a shot to put him on the active list first or not though ?
3 AM Monday morning games all 2010 - that's just dandy !
According to WIVB
According to NFL sources, the Bucs have offered Joique Bell a spot on their 53 man roster and is heading to Tampa Bay
confirmed, It’s true.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
well my buddy is saved from his fish slapping......
but of course some linkage will hopefully come forward soon as well.
Thank you sir!
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
We certainly could not of kept 5 RBs on our 53 man roster
So it is what it is, you win some you lose some.
I’m happy for the kid, he deserves a chance!
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
He certainly showed something during the Preseason......
made the most of his opportunity.
I agree………good for him.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually we could have.
If we cut Moats or Ellison.
I would have gone Moats, he probably would have cleared waivers the way he played in coverage.
He was getting torched by 2nd and 3rd stringers in coverage from a crappy team like Detroit.
Imagine what a mismatch nightmare he would be for us against starters at this point.
He was perfect practice squad material, he needs alot of work in coverage as a LB.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 5, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably kept him over Bell for special teams ability. Bell doesn’t really give you anything if he’s warming the bench behind the top 3 backs; Moats may be riding pine defensively but is a part of Bruce DeHaven’s plans on kickoffs or punts. My 2 cents.
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
I still think
We shoulda kept Bell the way he played. Is ellison on this team for ST too? I think we could have got by fine with 4 ILB instead of 5.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
the point is...
Keeping 5 backs is a waste if you don’t intend on using him.
When would you dress him over
CJ ?
Freddy ?
Marshawn ?
And he’s not a FB so Corey gets the nod as well.
So keeping him would have handicapped us for no other reason than us not wanting to let him go.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Also
We certainly could not of kept 5 RBs on our 53 man roster
It would have been 4RBs and a FB, I said we couldn’t keep 5RBs on another thread where someone wanted to keep Bell, Simpson, and McIntyre in addition to the 3 guarantees. Which would be 5RBs and a FB.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Could be true
But that’s still the only source reporting it.
The Bills could still offer him a spot on the roster too….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Why?
3 backs + a FB is more than enough. Our depth at OL is scary and the way our guys go down like flies would indicate that we need to dress quite a few on game day. Hopefully this year will be better but we still need to deepen our depth on the line and having 5 backs seems excessive.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Why would Tampa want him?
They already have 4 RB’s as it is….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Was this on TV?
It’s nowhere on the WIVB webiste.
I live in Georgia, so I’ve only got the website to go by.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I saw it
With my own two eyes.
Usually the TV station are slow to update the websites.
So you will watch the morning news if you didn’t catch it at night, I bet it is on the website by 9am.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
Headed to sleep and will check in the AM.
thx
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Picking up David Martin from the fins
Do you think our coaches can pick his brain and get any useful information we can use against them?
Sad about loosing Bell…glad he made a team, he deserved to be on one. No room for extra RBs in Buffalo right now.
READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL
RUN CJ RUN
someone wake up MRW and have him ask Bell a question on twitter to see if its true.
lol
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 5, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
I just tweeted him….think he’s asleep though. Won’t get official “Joique Bell conformation” until tomorrow. :D
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
It's now nearly 8 AM
and still nothing on his twitter acct…… as far as the Bucs go.
BUT, WoW is Levi ever PISSED!
“NEVER woulda guessed id be in this position right now…not even a practice squad invite. i’ve now officially gone from surprised to pissed!”
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 6, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang
The Jets and Revis came to an agreement
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
you knew they would.........
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN
says they reached an agreement in principle, that doesn’t always hold up everytime once the agent and lawyers sift through the fine print.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He's flying to sign tomorrow
And basically says the drama is over on twitter. It’s a done deal for all intents and purposes.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Now the real test is for him to go out and shut fools down.....
or else.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope
that the Jets have left some posters insulting Revis up in the front office!
"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde
probably is.
I don’t think the jets would try to add some performance clauses that would negatively affect him at this point.
I bet it is not long term though like that 10 year stuff that was floated, I bet it is a 3-4 year contract 45-60mil, with 25 mill guaranteed. A longer contract would be foolish, because if he outplays it, he will just hold out again, since the Jets caved this go round.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Reportedly it's a 7 year deal
But voidable after 4. Not the biggest in NFL history, either.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
that sounds about right.
The voidable after 4 is important. That’s why I said 3-4, you don’t want to lock yourself into a contract from a FO standpoint, because there are plenty of players, who take the money and run after the bigtime payday.
cough
Albert Haynesworth
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats not actually to bad.....
If the Jets were smart they would front load the crap out of it too.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really.
If they frontload it, when he get’s to a year like this one, where he is gonna make substantially less then he is worth, he just holds out again for a new contract.
Give him a fair price, with the lowest guranteed you can get them to accept, and incentives to make him overpaid lif the incentives can be achieved.
Then you have the best shot at having the player do everything they can to nab those incentives,
That’a the way to avoid an Albert Haynesworth situation. When you get 40+ mil guaranteed, what more incentive is there to perform when it is front loaded like that?
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
They guaranteed him $32M
Not bad for him
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not bad, probably less incentives, he probably wanted cash up front.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that works........
Thats not nearly that bad.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope the guaranteed money.
Means 32 mil is enough for Revis to retire and pulls a Haynesworth.
Because players who are committed, would take less guaranteed money to make much more through performance, are the ones who don’t quit.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Im sure there are some escalators in his contract......
Like he’ll get 2 mil extra if he picks off 15 passes in a year……or some crazy crap like that. LOL.
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
With that guarantee.
Pro Bowl, Superbowl loser, Superbowl winner, and league leader in interceptions are the escalators.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
And the order would be
Pro Bowl – Lowest
Superbowl Loser
League Leader Interceptions
Superbowl Winner – Highest,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 6, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope
that like many others before him, now that he’s got the $$$, that he loses that angry/hungry edge.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Revis
he is under a lot of pressure to perform this year
The guy could have good season and look foolish.
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
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