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September 2010 Chan Gailey Approval Poll

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At the start of every month, we're going to poll the readers of Buffalo Rumblings on their state of mind regarding the chief decision-makers of the Buffalo Bills. This is your poll to state your pleasure, or lack thereof, with head coach Chan Gailey. Here's what Gailey has accomplished over the last month, with a dash of perspective on the 53-man roster as a whole.

  • Named Trent Edwards his starting quarterback, and Ryan Fitzpatrick his backup
  • Led the Bills to a 2-2 preseason record, with wins over Indianapolis and Cincinnati; held C.J. Spiller out of preseason finale
  • Released several veteran players, including WR James Hardy, WR Chad Jackson and OT Kirk Chambers from his first Bills team
  • Is considering a platoon along the offensive line to assist starters Demetrius Bell and Eric Wood
  • Made pointed comments about his receiving corps, Steve Johnson and Roscoe Parrish in particular
  • Chewed out hecklers on the final day of training camp

Previous approval polls: 24% approval Hiring Date (50% disapproval); 70% approval April 2010 (5% disapproval); 83% approval June 2010 (2% disapproval); 88% approval August 2010 (2% disapproval)

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Do you approve of the job that Chan Gailey is doing as head coach of the Buffalo Bills?
Approve
2858 votes
Disapprove
53 votes
Not Sure
224 votes

3135 votes | Poll has closed

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I think i’m really going to like the offense this year and the upgrade that it will be. But defense and special teams worry me greatly right now.

I approve because of his candor, his ability to get more out of his players (yes – we only have preseason to judge by) and his ability to change game plans in mid-game – you k now the word – adjustments. ya – that’s a word that you can now use as a Bills fan

Listen! You smell something?

by J2 on Sep 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

voted approve -

i dont like his interaction with the hecklers. the qb naming doesn’t irk me or please me, it just is what it is. I am, however, very happy with the way he’s moved the qb around, called plays, and otherwise made use of players that haven’t seen much of it, like mcintyre, parrish, and nelson.

by quantumuprising on Sep 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

hecklers?

I know many people got on him over the hecklers, but I actually liked the move. On the PR side, yeah, maybe not the best. But his job isn’t to be well liked—it’s to get results. What many of the great teams have in common is the concept of teamwork. Without this, teams underperform, but with it teams can blow past expectations. I like the message he sent to the team—you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.

by jcey on Sep 7, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn’t like to move – to me it looked a lot more like, my qb has a fragile state of mind so i need to go out of my way to reinforce his confidence. just the way i interpreted it.

by quantumuprising on Sep 7, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved it...

and besides, you basically said you liked everything else.

I am, however, very happy with the way he’s moved the qb around, called plays, and otherwise made use of players that haven’t seen much of it, like mcintyre, parrish, and nelson.
The heckler episode bothered you that much? Now who is being sensitive? : )

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i also didn’t think the qb competition was probably as open as it couldve been, but that’s just me.

coming out in support of hecklers against your starting qb is just a very college move to me. if your NFL starting qb needs reinforcement about his job and his team support, there’s probably a reason.

by quantumuprising on Sep 8, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the business world I have no problem when my boss decides to stick up for me. It doesn’t mean I cant handle the pressure, it means he has my back and is willing to help defend me and my coworkers.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this was during a game I would have been against it, but people showing up to a training camp practice to dog a QB is just lame as can be. For one, you’re more of a guest than at a game. They’re there trying to get better, not please fans. Throw in the fact that the season hasn’t even started yet and though it’s fine to judge him on the past, we all are doing that, it’s pretty silly to heckle him at this point in time.

by paxon on Sep 7, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

For one, you’re more of a guest than at a game. They’re there trying to get better, not please fans

good point paxon.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

but people showing up to a training camp practice to dog a QB is just lame as can be.

but look at it from their perspective. its much easier to make your point be heard when there aren’t 80000 other people around =)

by quantumuprising on Sep 8, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But my understanding of the hecklers is they were underage kids using vulgar language that other spectators found offensive. Chan did what any adult should of and got on them about it. The real story should be were are the parents of these “fans”……

Home of "Spiller the Thriller"

by buffalobacker on Sep 8, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

Still don’t see what Chan did as inappropriate. If your gonna shout neg comments at a person expect a comment back!

Home of "Spiller the Thriller"

by buffalobacker on Sep 8, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approved

With the limited amount of information available, of course. I’m only saying that I approve of what he’s done so far-not saying I approve of him overall just yet-obviously that’ll take time.

The offense does look better, and early indications are that Trent looks a lot more comfortable with a guy who knows offense. Despite desperate needs at other positions, Spiller does look great as well. Have to give props there as well.

I do think calling James hardy a veteran is pushing it though. he played in all of, what, 3 games over the last three years? he’s just an old rookie now IMHO.

Mostly, though, I’m a big fan of how he seems to not pull punches with what he thinks. Seem to be getting much more direct quotes from him rather than DJ or MM or even GW.

by FrankL on Sep 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I just like his comments. When asked if TE Martin will see playing time; “We didn’t bring him in here to stand next to me on the sideline”. Classic

by south123 on Sep 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Voted Not Sure

Exhibition games don’t count, have to see the team in action for real before deciding.

Beside wins/losses, I’m looking to see how the old bubble players – Edwards, Lynch, Parrish, Bell on offense, Kelsay, McCargo, Ellis, Maybin on defense play. If Gailey can’t get any more out of them than Jauron did, then there is trouble brewing.

by Rick A on Sep 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

way to take a stand...

; )

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think thats the point...

you are judging him based on what he has done for the team so far whether the games count or not

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by freddy22 on Sep 7, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lynch a bubble player?

come on man… how can you call lynch a “bubble player” im about tired of hearin that man… hes been in the league for 3 years rushes for over 1,000 yards his first two years.. he then gets suspended for a few games and has 1 yes 1 bad year…. and all of a sudden hes a bubble player? come on like no one in the NFL has a bad year? i say bubble player my left foot dude!! lol crazy just crazy to say that!

by Joshua Seip on Sep 8, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're a tough bird non approver

It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "

by radan on Sep 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Approve

Now that the regular season is upon us, let’s see if he can keep Trent confident.

I liked the way he has handled the players/depth chart. He made everyone earn their place on the roster.

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by Schooled You on Sep 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I approve for one main reason...

Trent going deep. Nice to see.

Side reasons are that he’s keeping “talent” on the team while having the balls to remove the chaff. Working with a team that has so much “work in progress” gives Chan a pass this season. If he ends up with a .500 record this year, I’d say it was an exceptional first season.

by Khegobier on Sep 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I like what he’s done so far but it’s time to show me the baby.

At this point in their Bills tenure I would have probably given approval ratings for Williams, Mularkey, and Jauron, but that quickly changed once the ball was kicked off. Hopefully the Bills finally have a coach who’s competent on game day.

by Pistol on Sep 7, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I still dont get how 50% of people disapproved of Chan and 24% approved of him in the very first poll when we had absolutely nothing to approve or disapprove of.

This – I think, my memory could be wrong – is my first time changing my vote from “not sure” to “approve”. We can only judge a coach by the product on the field and even though it was pre-season we finally got to see our team in action. My decision is based solely on what I saw, which was:

- The offense looked smoother, more aggressive, more focused, and more rhythmic than at any time in the last 4 years.

- His offense used every single weapon at its disposal. We saw every man of consequence get a chance with the ball in his hands, another thing we haven’t seen in 4 years. Man, did we waste TO and Lee Evans last year or what?

- the secondary still looks as effective as ever despite the loss of secondary gurus Dick Jauron and Perry Fewell. Maybe that has more to do with George Catavolos than Chan Gailey but Gailey made the call to keep him as the secondary coach.

- Defensive and offensive underachievers began achieving, even if its just the preseason. Roscoe Parrish, Trent Edwards, John McCargo, Aaron Maybin, Leodis McKelvin, Chris Ellis and Donte Whitner have all looked more polished and played with more purpose than they did under the previous regime. This factor can not be stated enough. Guys whose careers were given up on by observers have made significant contributions, either Chan Gailey is one heck of a teacher or one heck of a motivator, or both. Or he’s just good in the preseason. Only time will tell but its strongly encouraging.

For those reasons I voted approved. Now lets see if that carries over to t

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I still dont get how 50% of people disapproved of Chan and 24% approved of him in the very first poll when we had absolutely nothing to approve or disapprove of.

Probably people who wanted a different choice for HC.

by Pistol on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah I see

People were voting then on the front office as opposed to Chan. I guess it was an emotional time. I was pretty bummed that we didnt get Cowher.

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much everyone was pissed that we didn’t get Cowher, Shanny etc. so most of the disapprove votes were people who didn’t particularly hate Chan, but had been hoping for somebody else. I believe I voted “disapprove” myself the first time, but have been approving ever since he actually started doing things.

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by UZ on Sep 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me...
Pretty much everyone was pissed that we didn’t get Cowher, Shanny etc.

I can’t remember who posted it, but there was some great back-up to the idea that big name coaches hardly lived up to their reputations once they moved to a new team.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

how could you vote on chan at the time

he had not done anything other than accept, clearly a front office vote

by wab2 on Sep 7, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, there was an option for "not sure"

hence, I took that option.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we are not all optimistic lambs about to be lead to slaughter. The offense had definite life during the pre-season, and at the very least the games shouldn’t be so boring. Rock bottom had to be the Cleveland game last year. The Bill’s can only improve from there.

by jhloje on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

thats the thing though

is that I know the slaughter is coming, I’m bracing myself for the season of slaughter but I still approve of the job Chan is doing. We can go 5-11 and I might still approve of the job Chan did if the offense is moving the ball, young players are getting chances and developing, we show aggressiveness and the defense tightens up as the season progresses. Expecting big things is a fools errand, expect the slaughter but don’t be shocked if we turn out to be good. Thats where my head is at right now.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BAAAAAA!!!!! BAAAAAAA!!!!

"Adversity is an opportunity for heroism." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 7, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

its just the truth. This team will take time. A one year turnaround is possible, it has happened before but more likely we will be waiting until at least next year for Chan’s coaching to pay off.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you brother. Just call me a fool and a glutton for punishment.
Rack of lamb anyone?

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 7, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just call me a fool and a glutton for punishment.

of course! we’re Bills fans!

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if there is mint jelly involved.

by quantumuprising on Sep 8, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd for
I’m bracing myself for the season of slaughter

Now that is a sig waiting to happen :-)

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by Joe P. on Sep 7, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

at least its better than the “season of the injury” last year.

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

I was not a big fan (OK, I strongly disapproved of the hiring) initially. I live in ACC Country, and no one was worried when GT came to town. The whole way the hiring of Nix and Chan was hired was poor (i.e. cheap), but typical Ralph. I would much rather have seen an outside GM and someone like Leslie Frazier as HC.

Having said that, I do like what Chan has done to date. He is certainly cleaned up the culture of the team. The rubber meets the road during the season. If he can transform Trent into a top 15 QB he’ll get a strong approve from me.

by BillinNC on Sep 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes, I live in ACC country and agree

at GT he always had a winning record and went to a bowl, but couldn’t take it to the next level. Never could beat their chief rival, Georgia Bulldogs…the chief reason for loosing his job.
His successor did do well with the kids he recruited and the foundation he laid.
I’m optimistic he can get the Bills winning again, but once that happens we will need to see how far he can take the team.
I voted approve for now.

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by jasman on Sep 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

One foot in the approval room

one foot is still unsure.

I like what I’ve seen out of the offense under Gailey in the preseason. Unfortunately, it was the preseason and he still needs to get his guys to produce starting this Sunday. We’ll see, but I like what he has done and has planned for his O. If we can see this carry over, I’ll solidly be in the Approve group.

On the other hand, the defense has looked terrible, and even though Gailey isn’t a defensive guy, he still needs to take some flak for how they have performed. Hopefully, it’s just a slow transition that isn’t being helped by the lack of quality players.

As we approach the season, I’m looking for Gailey’s team to be prepared, play tough and improve throughout the year. It’ll also be nice if they have an actual plan to follow instead of the ragamuffin “gameplans” that Jauron put together.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well put
prepared, play tough and improve throughout the year

I can agree with that. He needs this team to be disciplined.

"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards

"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix

by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

How has the team looked in the preseason regarding penalties? The only thing I had heard was that Florence kept getting flagged for defensive holding. How has the team discipline been so far in that area?

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by thefourwinds on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention the “game day situations” that he has them going through every practice…..

Listen! You smell something?

by J2 on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rest of the team has actually been good, especially the offensive line compared to last season. No more biting my nails every time the Bills get a first down because there’s an 80% chance that Bell was holding someone!

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by UZ on Sep 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

thx

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by thefourwinds on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can live with a holding penalty, because it might save the QB from a crushing hit. What I hate the most is when the offense knows when the snap is coming and still committ a falste start and in that regard we have been (1st unit) perfect.

I only remember Chambers with 1 false penatly in at least every preseason match.

by Fixxxer on Sep 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, the defense has looked terrible

I thought the secondary looked just as sharp as 09 against Palmer, Peyton and in the early going against Detroit. The secondary starters seem every bit as poised to generate turnovers as last year. Its the run defense that really has me worried as it seems like the defensive line can make stops but if a running back gets to the linebackers they just dont have the talent to make a tackle. If you watch some replays of a lot of opponents running plays it seems like they just send a lineman directly at Poz, smash him up, and then are confident that no one else in the linebacking group is going to make a play. I thought Kawika and Andra would be a great fit next to Poz but it looks like he needs more help, ie someone else the defenses know can make a tackle.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure what you saw in the Cincy and Indy games

But the secondary was getting abused by Palmer and Peyton.

Palmer completed 82% of his passes, threw 2 TD’s and has a 142+ QB rating.
Peyton Manning was off on some of his passes, and had a truly unlucky INT, but he didn’t seem to have any issues with the Bills secondary.
McNabb also had no issues with the secondary.

What leads you to believe the secondary will be able to generate INT’s like last year? I don’t see that at all, unless Byrd has another unexpectedly monster season.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, we looked terrible against McNabb which was why I didnt mention him in my original post but i’ll chalk that up to our first game with a new scheme and new personnel.

Maybe I’m think of JT O’Sullivan in the Bengals game but I thought we looked crisp and were defending passes well.

Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning. Success against him is measured by containment. Leodis McKelvin covered Reggie Wayne perfectly on a deep ball and should have had a pick as he got two hands on the ball. Leodis and Terrence McGee kept Peyton from making quick throws all game and our safeties didn’t let anything go over the top on them. Playing against Peyton Manning and keeping him in check, basically giving up only one score to him when we started the ball inside his own 30 is quite a feat. The Colts kept sending Peyton out for more and more series’. It seemed odd because they are usually conservative with Peyton and I believe it was because the coaching staff didnt want to pull him without letting him have a successful drive against a team which was supposed to be weak. I thought we were fantastic against Peyton.

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I think that the secondary wasn’t completely horrible against McNabb… Except Reggie Corner who played possibly the worst game in his incredibly storied career that day.

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by UZ on Sep 7, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

I’ve actually seen him play a lot worse.
A couple of times.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 7, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually I just try to ignore his existence during the regular season, so I wouldn’t know :)

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by UZ on Sep 7, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree they will not repeat at that level

but byrd was not on the field for theindy game, so your statement is not fair. Our weakness will be LB’s in coverage, not DB’s in coverage

by wab2 on Sep 7, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it unfair?

Without Byrd, they played poorly. Is that unfair of me?!?

I didn’t say with Byrd they would have stunk too.

~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poz might be the problem... not the other backers

it’s his 1st time in the scheme, but he’s been an average MLB his whole career thus far. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they try to replace him next year with the draft or otherwise. That said, he has 16 games to get better in the scheme, the whole unit does, and should.

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by ForeignArrow on Sep 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree it could be Poz if hes not understanding his assignments properly. I think Poz was better than average last year, I think he just has to stay on the field for 16 games now. Lets hope these guys pick up the defense, hasn’t Kawika played in a 3-4 before?

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but I’ve been giving Poz low grades throughout this preseason. He’s tackling well enough but he’s been abused by backs out of the backfield. It’s going to be a long season for him if he looks like that throughout.

I’m hopeful but new scheme can’t be an excuse – we’re not changing it back.

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by kgun201 on Sep 7, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he'll figure it out

hes a gamer. If Poz is anything its a hard worker and a hustler, I have confidence and faith in him. Then again, my name “poz” so I’m not exactly unbiased.

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by poz on Sep 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hopeful but new scheme can’t be an excuse – we’re not changing it back.

The scheme especially can’t be an excuse since everyone has been saying this is his natural scheme, and that the switch would help him.

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by JPH on Sep 7, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just don't see it with Poz

he’s not aggresive, never was. I thought the cover 2 was not suited for him, he shouldn’t be waiting for the play to come to him.
He plays with zero instinct and sort of stands there reacting to what happens instead of attacking someone. I prefer him making mistakes by trying and not by reacting late.

by Fixxxer on Sep 8, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voted "not sure"

I was actually pretty pleased when Gailey was hired. He hasn’t done anything to indicate I should be against his judgement yet.

I also wasn’t really “anti-Jauron”, just felt he wore out his welcome.

I would vote “approve”, but I don’t like some of the personnel decisions. I can’t be clear who made them, but I have to beleive Gailey had a hand in these. I am not happy about our situation at LT, QB, and WR. It might have been Nix that decided not to address the LT, QB, and WR in the draft/FA, but I cannot be sure.

Ultimately Gailey’s approval for me will be how many “babies” he delivers versus how many “labor pains”. Wins are the easiest panacea for Bills fans like myself.

I like Gailey, I will wait to see how this team plays on game days till I “approve” of him.

"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards

"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix

by Jason from OH-IO on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted “approve”, and have since I read about the endorsements he got from such notables as Bill Cowher, Dan Reeves, and Jerry Jones.

The skepticism above is understandable given the past 10 years of forgettable Bills football. But I think from what I’ve seen thus far, that Gailey will prove his skeptics wrong. He has a GM that has given him lots of solid support, something that we haven’t seen in awhile in Buffalo. Plus I like his attention to the fundamentals. I have a feeling Chan will do alright.

And with the 9th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...C.J.Spiller?

by Blitz on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Approve

The single biggest reason for this is that finally, Buffalo has a true captain at the head of the ship. Right, wrong or indifferent, this team will have an identity under Gailey’s leadership, and Gailey is the one voice that leads.

Some may not like the heckler incident. Gailey’s actions had nothing to do with crowd control. It had everything to do with instilling confidence in him from his team. Once a subordinate knows that you will fight for him, that subordinate’s effectiveness is enhanced. Think Trent Edwards won’t run through a wall for Gailey? Think the other Bills haven’t taken notice of Gailey’s defense of Edwards, and won’t run through a wall for Gailey too? If nothing else, this team will play hard for Gailey.

Also:

While I’ve read a bunch in the past about getting Leslie Frazier, someone I peronally wanted, I think it was very smart to bring in an offensive-minded head coach. George Edwards will bring the defense around just fine. Gailey, as head coach, sets the mindset of the team. Many defensive coaches want efficient offenses that don’t make mistakes and control the clock. Instead, Gailey is going to tailor the offense to the talent, with power running in mind. Gailey isn’t overlooking or misusing personnel because of any mindset that supports the defense.

And, that power running, stuff the run, tough edged mindset is going to create a difference in the type of type Buffalo develops.

The last point is that he is a teacher. We’ve read that in the past with past coaches, but it’s true with Gailey. Most of the young guys are actually getting better. The current Trent Edwards is starting to look like September 2008 Trent Edwards. He gets on the team when they perform poorly. All good indicators of a coach that’s going to develop players to be better than they currently are.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 7, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I agree

with you on the motivation and teaching that Gailey so far as shown. Its still early but hes getting the best out of guys who never gave anything and more out of guys who gave little.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

John McCargo got better. So did Whitner. McKelvin looked better during games. Maybin even improve a little. Bell and Steve Johnson look like passable starters. Parrish is a rockstar. Stupar got better. Kelsay (forgive me K) looks like a decent strongside OLB. Ellis got better. Edwards looks like a starter and we finally saw some play that started to live up to Brohm’s potential.

Chad Jackson even looked good.

The only young guy that didn’t really get better was Hardy. And that’s likely more on Hardy than anyone else.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only young guy that didn’t really get better was Hardy. And that’s likely more on Hardy than anyone else.

A man cant improve when hes on the sidelines, his injuries truly kept him from ever getting better.

"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly"

by poz on Sep 7, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I think too Poz...

He didn’t trust his knee, and it made him look even slower than he is.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

and well said, you’re on a roll

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of pissy today

I have runner’s knee, ran five miles yesterday, 1/4 mile sprints today, and my knee feels awesome. Lots of computer work today, so I’m throwing my energy into my replies. I hope it’s good and not too much of a buzzsaw.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%

Thoughtful & well said! Rec’d

by Bama Geezer on Sep 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve

I tried hard to like Jauron (as a coach), but it became almost impossible. His handling of press conferences became almost unbareable. There was never anything wrong. The guys were playing hard, etc etc. It was obvious they were stuggling last preseason (certainly not all his fault), but he refused to acknowledge even the most obvious problem.

Gailey tells it like it is. I understand that coaches are not going to tip their hand on strategy and injuries, but it doesn’t hurt to give reasonably honest assessments. I have no doubt the players know where he stands. He verbalizes during practice. He “coaches”. Will it reult in more wins?? I don’t know, but I think the team will improve. I really do.

by MrFurious1 on Sep 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I think the team will improve but it won’t show in the win column. The schedule is too tough.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 7, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve

I like what I hear from him every time he opens his mouth. He instills confidence and pushes his players to expect more from themselves. I was very happy when he changed the strength and conditioning program and removed TVs from the training room. I haven’t seen him throw a challenge flag yet but I bet he’ll make sure the official can actually tell he threw it and it didn’t just fall out of his pocket. If he can “fix” Trent, then we are a lot closer to having a top tier team in the league.

by 21B-Lo on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason Cole votes, "approve"

“The Buffalo Bills are going to be bad, but coach Chan Gailey can fake it pretty good.” —Jason Cole
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjK9ESzxDFYtUgnl2ItOJFw5nYcB?slug=jc-2010nflstorylines090710

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by Backup to Farve's Backup on Sep 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh

“can fake it pretty well”

jeez, I thought these guys had journalism degrees. ; )

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jason Cole doesn’t, but he can fake it pretty good.

by stetzwebs on Sep 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

nice

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve.......

contrary to what many people think……he has been an improvement…..so thats good.

Of course my biggest fear with Chan Gailey is that he’s a step up from Jauron……but not much else………..and for me…anything less than a Championship every year is a disappointment……

I know, I know, baby steps……but……damn if this baby shouldnt be running around after 10 years………….

"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards

by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

dont hold the last 10 years against Gailey though, that has led to many issues in and of itself.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-16? 2-14?

I’ve seen both #s predicted for us this year. I think 6-10 or better is more realistic, but I may be drinking the Kool ade. Beating the dolphins week 1 is paramount though. Team needs momentum.

by BillinNC on Sep 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

6-10 and 7-9 are ALWAYS realistic........

we are afterall…….talking about the Bills

"I understand that's the way it is, You're just going to have to take that with a grain of salt and realize there's going to be people out there that aren't going to like the way you play and where you're from." - Trent Edwards

by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-10 is “drinking the kool ade?”

CJ, don't SPILLith thy Kool Aid.

by kgun201 on Sep 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m anxious to see the Dolphins game to see what kind of difference we see in exectution. If the starters perform like they did during the pre-season or even step it up then I like our chances against the ‘phins, pats, jax, kc, chi, det, and cle. I expect the Bills to go 6-3 against these teams, although if they show up for each of these game they could go, dare I say, 9-0. The remaining games on the schedule are games I look at and can only think “Any given Sunday…”. NYJ, GB, Balt, Cin, Pitt & Minn would take more than just showing up to pull out. I’d say 0-7 is a realistic call, but would not be surprised to have them pull off a couple surprise wins out of this group.

by jcey on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

NE games...

There is a HUGE mental block on the guys from the past few years against the Pats. If we can beat them one game this year it will be a giant leap forward. Seriously, if they get 4 wins against everyone else but can beat the Pats I’ll be looking forward to next year with great anticipation. That will be the true test of whether Gailey has turned the team around, especially with their mentality and expectation of winning.

by stetzwebs on Sep 7, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I debated whether or not to include the Pats in that first group to begin with. But I am convinced the Bills can beat the Pats if they show up and don’t beat themselves. IMO, this mental block is part of beating themselves.

by jcey on Sep 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a mischaracterization
Is considering a platoon along the offensive line to assist starters Demetrius Bell and Eric Wood

Platooning isn’t the right word. Spelling Bell & Wood occasionally may be the way to go early on in the season, however, Platooning in the traditional sense is what D-linemen do for various situations during the course of the game. I truly doubt that the O-linemen who will spell our recovering starters will get more than a series or two during the course of a game and even less as the year progresses (barring further injury).

By the way, I voted approve based on the fact that he has our offense looking exponentially better than anything I have seen in the past 4 years.

THAT WE GOING TO RUN OVER EVERBODY THAT STEPS IN FRONT OF THE WHAGONBLASTER - Abayarde

by Jax Bills Fan on Sep 7, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Too Early to tell!

- I like the fact that Gailey is getting Roscoe Parrish involved more with the offense. Anybody with that kind of speed can be used in the offense.
- Gailey is a pretty good offensive mind and I hope that he can make the most out of a team that is considered having the 2nd worst talent in the league.
- It will take another 2-3 year’s, if the Bills draft correctly, to overcome the disastrous picks this team has made over the past ten years.

by BuffaloWhiner on Sep 7, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. I’m not expecting too much this year. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not.

by stetzwebs on Sep 7, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

two years with a good draft next year

two tackles and two LB’s in the top four picks

by wab2 on Sep 7, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve

I’m not optimistic about this season, or our offensive line, or our linebackers, or that we’ll win as many games as we did last year. But I’m optimistic about the Bills, which I haven’t been in several years.

I think they’ll be more competitive than anyone (Tim Graham aside) expects. And I look forward to watching them this season.

Go Bills!

by Luther6 on Sep 7, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Poll

The poll is asking what you think of Chan to date? To date, I believe he’s done very well. If he gets more OL help I’d be happier. Chan can’t play the games though, so before we hold Chan accountable lets give him a chance to work some of his people into/on the team.

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by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait. What?

You sound very reasonable and not emotionally overcharged…are you sure this is the right site for you? ; )

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

You may have a point. When/if they start downward spiral I’ll get emotional….

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by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve

I like the training camp atmosphere. I like the production he got out of relatively the same offense that couldn’t score last year. As a coach, I think he’s done well with what he has to work with.

by Slick Shifty on Sep 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

simple and to the point of the poll

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Sure

The proof is, as Gailey says, “When there are people in the stands and the scoreboard is on” — do I approve of this roster? Well, not much of it is actually Gailey’s or Nix’s… even with the numbers of turnovers given in these articles, its still a majority of players that they’ve inherited and are making the most of, and preseason is no true indication of anything. Yes, Trent played well for 12-15 minutes, but a full game, with half-time adjustments and constant pressure is a different story altogether.

I will say I approve of the way Gailey conducts himself with the media and the way he seems to conduct himself with the players. I really liked how he handled the Hardy situation, noting he was never that impressed and even when Hardy showed some improvement he still realized it wasn’t a full-enough package to keep him around. Its clear that performance in practice and on the field is all that matters, not draft round or even past performance/hype. But Gailey is the HC, not just the OC — if defense and special teams bomb out then he’s not worth the promotion we gave him.

by JjR in TO on Sep 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I suppose

a tempered approach is deserved for Gailey’s success in the polls… it’s not very difficult to approve of the job he’s done considering it would be very difficult for him to NOT improve a team in the condition he found it.

"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

"If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it all over again."

by ForeignArrow on Sep 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly...
it’s not very difficult to approve of the job he’s done considering it would be very difficult for him to NOT improve a team in the condition he found it

An example of a “disapproval” vote under these standards: Pete Carroll. He has turned a bad team even worse.

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by NorCal BillsFan on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

low expectations

Does anybody really think this team is going anywhere this year? The team maybe won’t use it, but everyone else will. The dreaded “R” word. Rebuilding. (Again!) 6-10 may be too optimistic. Maybe 5-11 or 4-12 is closer. Next year should be better. Too many holes to fill and too many young guys to teach. At least Milk Toast Jauron is gone. That in itself is an improvement.

by markw6239 on Sep 7, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

There was enough talent on the team to win 6-7 games these past few years. We added CJ Spiller, a dynamic playmaker that the past offenses have been lacking. The defense is in transition but really can’t be too much worse than last year. I don’t see how people think because we are officially in “rebuilding mode” that we are guaranteed to win 5 games or less.

"SO LETS GET ON IN THIS BUS cause this is the year we are coming to KICK SOME #$^u%*$% GODZILLA IS COMING BE READY" - abayarde

by NJBillsfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense can’t be too much worse than last year? Considering they were ranked 16th last year, they can be exactly 16 places worse.

by stetzwebs on Sep 8, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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