Buffalo Bills Defensive Ends: State Of The Bills Roster
This post is part of a series entitled State of the Bills Roster, in which we're breaking down and evaluating the Buffalo Bills on a position-by-position basis. If you're confused about the number and letter classification appearing after each player's name, read this post. You can check out all previous installments of this series here.
Earlier this week, Der Jaeger helped us break down multiple defensive systems, fit defensive tackle Kyle Williams into those systems, and then anticipate how the Bills might scheme around their star defensive player. The general consensus: staying multiple in alignments can be advantageous, but the Bills need to find a way to scheme to keep their subpar linebackers clean.
Should that end up being Buffalo's goal this off-season, the Bills will need to find as many linemen capable of playing two gaps as they can. Exiting year one in which the team transitioned out of a 4-3, the majority of the Bills' defensive linemen are still better suited as one-gap defenders - including Williams. As such, if the goal is to allow more freedom (and less gap responsibilities) for the linebackers, more two-gap linemen are needed.
A quick breakdown of Buffalo's non-nose tackle defensive linemen lies after the jump.
Right now, the Bills have six interior defensive lineman types that, in a 3-4, would mostly play end in their organization.
Dwan Edwards (2-B). Signed to a four-year deal as Buddy Nix's first major free agent signing with the team, Edwards performed well individually in 2010, but did not galvanize the team's new-look defensive line as most expected him to. Which is fine; all he can do is what he can do, right? Edwards was the NFL's leading tackler among defensive linemen with a career-high 57 prior to his season-ending injury, adding a sack and an interception, as well. He enters 2011 with some rehab in front of him, but barring a setback, he'll be in the starting lineup when training camp opens.
Alex Carrington (3-D). Chan Gailey was pleased with Carrington's progress transitioning from Arkansas State to the NFL, even though that progress did not manifest itself frequently on the field of play. He is almost certain to see a significant increase in playing time entering his second season, and his development - or lack thereof - will be one of the more noteworthy developments in whether or not the Bills improve defensively next season.
Marcus Stroud (3-E). Reviews on Stroud's first pro season with George Edwards ranged from average to awful - and he still finished tied for third on the team with three sacks. Stroud has lost much of the explosion that made him a star years ago, and he might be on the verge of slipping out of "steady veteran" territory, as well. If the Bills are looking to trim fat from their roster and upgrade at a very important position, Stroud is a likely target. At the very least, a diminished role is called for.
Spencer Johnson (3-E). Had a solid year playing end and tackle in Buffalo's various schemes, making a few plays behind the line of scrimmage. Still, Johnson is a rotational player at best, and lacks the ability to stack and shed that the Bills badly need from their defensive linemen. As long as the Bills stay multiple-front, he'll have a role schematically - but most of his technique's reps would go to Williams.
John McCargo (4-F). The former first-round pick had an Aaron Maybin-esque impact, spending most weeks inactive, and barely seeing the field of play when he was up. An impending free agent, it'd take a miracle of a not-yet-known magnitude to keep him in Buffalo.
Boo Robinson (4-F). Added to the practice squad very late in the season. Beyond that, there's not a lot to say; the rookie out of Wake Forest may merit a look this spring, but that's certainly not guaranteed.
Contract situations to monitor: McCargo is a free agent (and unlikely to return), and Johnson is entering the next-to-last year of the five-year deal he signed in March of 2008. Edwards and Carrington are locked up long-ish term, and Stroud has two years remaining on the misguided (from a team standpoint) four-year, $28 million deal he signed in April of 2009.
Outlook: Right now, the Bills have a steady veteran (Edwards), a nice-looking project (Carrington) and a bunch of veteran question marks at this position. Edwards and Carrington can, and have, played two gaps - but Edwards was still utilized in a one-gap capacity frequently in Baltimore. Stroud, Johnson and the rest are better as one-gap penetrators. You see the problem: the Bills need two-gap defensive linemen; at best, they have three at the moment (Edwards, Carrington and Torell Troup).
Most fans place the blame for the team's issues defending the run on their patchwork group of linebackers, but when Edwards went down, this team did not have a single defensive lineman - aside from Williams - that could shed a block on a consistent, routine basis. Upgrades are required here, though it can certainly be argued that they're not as urgent as at other positions.
Possible Acquisition: The team has a mix of veteran and youth, but they could upgrade on the veterans, and they could use more youth. Expect a young guy - or, more likely, multiple young prospects.
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I hear ya bro.
Dareus is a beast, and can play different schemes.
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by Michael_Necci on Jan 13, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Kyle Williams
I’m a bit confused – doesn’t Williams mostly line up as an end, at least, in the best of our defensive schemes?
He did not last year. He was mostly a NT or DT. Very rarely did he play on the edge.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
PLEASE
Get rid of Stroud. He’s been on this roster two years longer than he should have been. He makes too much money to play as poorly as he does. He’s been washed up for a couple of years just raking in the paychecks; please end that OBD and get a player that might be useful at some point!!
~K
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by Kurupt on Jan 13, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
AGREED
Marcus Stroud:
Please retire and go to work for FOX or CBS or Sportsnet Ontario or any other TV gig because thats really all you are good at now is doing TV and staying of the field of play.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 13, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
When did Stroud become good at doing TV? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. I do recall him doing Marcus’s Mailbag last year.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Cellino and Barnes maybe.
One of those. He has a horrible lisp in it and swats a tackling dummy out of his way. It’s bad, even for C&B.
by twoeightnine on Jan 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Haha – is it still on? I sort of really want to see it now. Did he do one with Marv Levy, too, or was that someone else?
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Isaac Heating and Air Conditioning is the company
Commerical is here
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
LMAO. The first five seconds are priceless.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
They are, they are, it brings a smile too my face every time I see it.
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
hahaha
“That’s not heat, that’s cold hard cash” – hahahaha
"I don’t understand why so many actually do believe in [Fitz]. Because he had a surprising season, threw a handful of TD’s and was better than the previous pile of manure the Bills put in at QB? That’s not good enough" - K
I think you mean
Mawcuthes Maiwbag
"I don’t understand why so many actually do believe in [Fitz]. Because he had a surprising season, threw a handful of TD’s and was better than the previous pile of manure the Bills put in at QB? That’s not good enough" - K
that was so bad
love him, but cant talk on camera
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
I’m with you on Stroud K – he needs to go.
I really hope that Nix/Gailey are committed to the long term success of this team and just draft who ever is going to be a stud at 3 even if it is a DE.
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by J2 on Jan 13, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
A work in progress
So, in the first year of the Gailey/Edwards defense, they acquired three two-gap linemen, one DT and two DEs. It sounds like a good start.
The decline and likely departure of Stroud is a good reason why drafting Carrington was a good idea, even if it wasn’t a the ‘need’ position some other positions were a year ago.
Whether Carrington is the right choice will play out, but I like the thinking – play for the long term, not plugging the biggest holes with questionable cork first.
I doubt CHIX would catch much flak from the fans for going D-line early in the draft. People didn’t initially like the Troup pick because he wasn’t a big name NT. He didn’t do much this season but then Dan Williams and MT Cody didn’t set the league on fire either. I don’t recall much wailing when Carringron was picked. CJ Spiller was the real head scratcher..
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Jan 13, 2011 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And I think he causes a fumble. Still its not as if he was getting a lot of attention those season…like Troup he got some snaps and had a few good plays along with mostly unnoticed plays
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Jan 13, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Troup, IMO outplayed both DW and MT Cody...
I watched a lot of Mt Cody and he barely saw the field, when he did, he was pushed around or walled off from the play, he had a lot of trouble trying to shed blocks, he finished the season with 13 tkls.
I only saw three games where DW got any run (2 of the games were vs 49ers), he was a complete non-factor the whole game. He finished the season with 35 tkls (Troup had 19 tkls) and he played many more snaps than Troup did, as AZ doesn’t have a TRex-caliber NT in front of him, DW had Alan Branch and Gabe Watson to compete with instead).
Although I guess the same could be said for Troup if someone where to only be able to watch 3 of his games like I was only able to do for DW in AZ, I saw 5 BAL games this year).
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 13, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t people generally boo hoo on Christmas morning?
Nyuck nyuck nyuck
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
by Ron From NM on Jan 13, 2011 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We know Dwan, Carrington and Spencer will be here this fall
Its Stroud and Boo who are the big question marks, McBusto will be gone since he has done nothing for us, and couldn’t even manage to get us a draft pick when we could have used one last season. I think Boo and Stroud both get their walking papers this year in order to free up roster spots and money.
I think we see a number of bodies brought in this off season, I can see one veteran addition, most likely a rotational guy, but possible spot starter. I like Alan Branch from the Cardinals as he is a 2011 FA, and he is a solid player who can get too the QB as well (3.5 sacks this season) and could be a good fit with Edwards and Carrington. I think we see at least one if not two draft picks used on more DEs this offseason.
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
What team did we get Boo from?
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Just googled him
Undrafted rookie from Wake Forest, invited and signed with the Eagles, cut before the season started and signed to the Cleveland Browns practice squad, he was cut from Cleveland’s squad and added to ours at the end of the season. You would have to read about him, not a bad pick up, but nothing to write home to mom about.
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he was just...
travelin’ and a livin’ off the land….
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Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
sadly, I don't even have to click on the link :-)
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