Sell me on Dareus or Bowers

by Kumario! on Jan 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST

Sure, nominally, they're the best at their position. Are their talents/production extraordinary enough to be worth a Top 3, or are they only there by default? Show me some plays, stories, or reviews.

Madden had this thing called a Weapon player, where a few players (i.e. Ty Law, Terrell Owens) had the ability to beat their opponent's rating substantially and take over a game. I hate to use an analogy from a videogame, but it seems to me a top 3 pick means you should walk away with the 3rd best player in college football; a rare selection that should be used on the Best Player Available, who can dominate the position for several years (and waiting to fill needs with later picks).

Are these two guys in that category? I've heard that description about players like Green and Peterson, is that true? I'm a proponent of building from the lines out too, but we've got 7 other picks and history's shown our late guys usually beat out our day 1 picks anyways. (Williams-McCargo, Moats-Maybin, Nelson-Hardy, etc)

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by J2 on Jan 13, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions

You got Marion!!!

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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 14, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions

You can pretty easily argue that Robert Quinn is the best DE available this year – there’s just the minor issue that he was suspended for the entirety of the 2010 season. Just a little hiccup. :)

I like Bowers quite a bit – loads of talent and potential – but I don’t think I’d take him first overall, and I don’t think he’s a particularly good fit in Buffalo because of the team’s preference for pass-rushing linebackers. I don’t think Bowers can stand up. Bowers’ best fit, to me, is in Cincinnati. Or Denver, depending on what D they run; they’ll probably stay 3-4, though.

Dareus is my top-ranked DT, just a hair ahead of Fairley, because he’s more versatile. But he did not have a great 2010 campaign, as he dealt with some minor injuries and didn’t quite live up to the hype. He’s still a very good football player, but I’m not convinced that he’s worth a Top 5 pick, either. He’d fit great into Buffalo’s multiple-front defensive system.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions

i would prefer darius over bowers but bowers reminds me so much of bruuuuuuuuuccccccce

it might be hard not to draft him

where oh where has aaron maybin gone oh where can he be
was picked so high and not one has seen oh where can maybin be
seriously where the hell is he ?

by Gpluehri on Jan 13, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions

^^THIS^^^

in more ways than his power, speed and quickness… His balance, and ability to almost lay out flat as he rushes and still turn on a dime is a very rare ability in ANY athlete, let alone a DE… Some think he’s gonna play end in a 4-3, or LB in a 3-4, but I think, just like Bruce, his natural fit is at DE in a 3-4… For those that don’t remember, Bruce got his weight up one year, at the coaching staffs behest, to 286, and had the worst year of his career… The next year, he dropped it back down to 268 and the rest is history… I think Bowers has the ability to be that type of player.
I’m not sayin’ he’s gonna make us forget Bruce Smith, no one I think can ever be as good as he was, but this kid has that potential. And quite frankly, knowing he’s listed at 6-4, 280 on Clemson’s roster, we know how that works, and he’ll prolly measure out for real at about 6-3, 265-270… Coincidence???

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by Cinga on Jan 13, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions

So, Brian, who would you pick for the Bills: Bowers, Fairley, Quinn or Dareus?

by usuo mojinga on Jan 13, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions

Between those four? Tough call, and one I won’t make right now. Need to see more of Quinn.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions

Doesn’t the fact that Quinn had 0 sacks against ranked teams in his ACC player of the year sophomore season bother you, or the fact he couldn’t even get a sack against Ed Wang bother you?

I know his measurables compare to DeMarcus Ware but his college development surely doesn’t.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 14, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions

If were going with a guy that can dominate I would go with Green. He’s been compared to Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson.

However, I’m not sure I’d use this pick on him my first choice would be Fairley, then Green, then Dareus

by billsfan26 on Jan 13, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions

Yes

Bowers is 3rd overall material, he’s just like Mario Williams.

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by BravesRaleigh on Jan 13, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions

He’s not “just like him”. He has similarities, but he’s not as good a prospect as Mario was.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 13, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions

Bowers is 3rd overall material, he’s just like Mario Williams.

He’s just like Bruce Smith.. .Those guys had a heck of a lot more production for more than one year also. I think Quinn is the better overall prospect and if he can behave will have a more productive career.

by ATF on Jan 13, 2011 7:24 PM EST reply actions

Weapon Player

I think the question was which of these guys is the best “Weapon Player” and the answer is Green. He comes into the draft with the best resume and potential to fully realize his talent in the NFL.

Dareus, Bowers, Quinn, kind of remind me of the 2009 draft with Matthews, Cushing and Orakpo. They are all good. It’s just who do you think fits your system better.

by Moose68 on Jan 14, 2011 1:14 AM EST reply actions