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I have cracked CHIX draft code…..Maybe????


The Spiller pick……I could never figure the logic of it.  Then this week,  I happen to hear Eric Mangini on Mike and Mike in the morning.

Star-divide

Aside from his excellent breakdowns’ of this weekend's playoff games, Mangini also spoke about the draft.  I am paraphrasing, but basically he said that coaches and front office personnel all do their due diligence on prospects.  They do background checks, watch tape, talk to college coaches, do interviews with the player, etc.   But in the end, when all things seem close to equal, some coaches end up selecting the player they like best as a person.  After all, if you are going to draft a guy that might end up underperforming, you might as well like the guy.  That is when the pieces all fell into place for me.  Spiller may be an on the field disappointment in many ways, but he unquestionably has high character.  Could that have been the deciding factor?  Did CHIX take Spiller because he was BPA with high character?  I don't have a better reason.

Now for the fun part….trying to figure out who CHIX will select in this upcoming draft.  What do we know about the kind of players CHIX like? 

  1. BPA with High Character
  2. Winners that have produced as Starters….no one year wonders
  3. Tough – "This is a tough game for tough people"
  4. Fits the system CHIX want to run

How do some of the top prospects stack up to these criteria?  The majority of the player breakdowns are copied from CBS Sports.com.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

 

Patrick Peterson – CB :

"Peterson played in 39 games, starting 30 times. He recorded 135 tackles, 22 pass breakups and seven interceptions on defense. As a return specialist, he finished with 418 punt returns yards and two touchdowns to go with 932 kickoff return yards. Peterson scored touchdowns three different ways during his career with the Tigers - punt returns (2), interception return, and return of a blocked field goal.

Intangibles: Confident, almost cocky demeanor on the field. Possesses the short memory of all great cornerbacks. Extremely competitive. Seems to relish the battles against top receivers in man coverage. Campaigned to be used on special teams and even offense while at LSU due to his natural playmaking skills. Good bloodlines. Cousins of NFL cornerback Bryant McFadden and wide receivers Santana and Sinorice Moss. Characterized as "freak" athlete. " 

Peterson is considered a top 3 pick and BPA at CB.  He is a winner that has produced, and has shown he can tackle.  I would say that makes him tough.   I can’t find any character issues, but does he have high character?  Shutdown CBs can play in any system really.  Therefore, I think Peterson could very likely be the pick if he is still there at #3.

 

Da’Quan Bowers – DE:

"He stepped in as a true freshman …..Still, some believed his four career sacks meant he was underachieving; winning the Bronko Nagurski and Ted Hendrick Awards and being named All-American and ACC Defensive Player of the Year as a junior with 25 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks put a stop to that talk. His play was actually fueled by the death of his mentor, Adams (cardiac arrest) and his father (seizure) in the span of 12 months. His strength at the point of attack as run-stopper and sack-master gives him the potential to be a long-time playmaker like Shaun Ellis or possibly even a game-changing 4-3 strong-side end in the Michael Strahan mold.… gifted musician who has been guitarist in his father's Gospel band for the last few years….

Intangibles: Matured and turned on his game after losing his mentor, former DE Gaines Adams (cardiac arrest) and his father (seizure) over the past year. Lost 20 pounds between junior and senior seasons. His best football is ahead of him. Has become a student of the game."

Bowers is BPA at DE in the draft.  I don’t find any character issues.  Given how he has handled the recent deaths in his life coupled with his time spent playing guitar, I would bump him up into the high character category.  Some think he will be a waste as a 3-4 DE, but I am not one of them.  I see him putting on some weight and being a Bruce Smith like DE.  If he can't put on the weight, he could stay at his current weight as a rush only OLB type.  I think he is too big and slow to drop into coverage.  He did miss a few games due to injury, but still has played enough games to consider him experienced and not injury prone.  Some might say he falls into the one hit wonder category.  He will be on the board, but not at the top of it.

 

Nick Fairley – DT:

Fairley is well known as a dirty player and has said he doesn’t want to play in the cold.  He may be a BPA at DT, but certainly isn’t of high morale character.  I think CHIX pass on him.

 

A.J. Green – WR:

"Despite missing seven games the past two seasons due to injury or suspension, Green leaves the University of Georgia after his junior season second in school history with 23 touchdown catches and third with 2,542 receiving yards…..

Intangibles: Suspended for the first four games of the 2010 season for selling a jersey to an agent. Recipient of Neel Family Football Scholarship. Member of the Summer 2009 Honor Roll. Respected by teammates and coaching staff. Voted Team MVP following the 2010 season."


Green is a top 5 pick and BPA at WR. I don’t think the jersey selling issue will deter CHIX as long as no other character issues pop up.  Green has consistently produced, is big strong, and has not missed enough games to injury to be a concern.  Green is a true #1 WR that can play in any system.  Green will be high on CHIX draft board.

Marcell Dareus – DT:

"Dareus' size and strength stood out as a five-technique in Nick Saban's preferred 3-4 scheme. Able to control his opponent, he clears the way for Alabama's linebackers to pad their stats and could play a similar role in the NFL. Dareus' short, stocky frame, however, is more conducive to playing inside at defensive tackle in the 4-3 alignment. The ability to play either role should make Dareus one of the first defensive linemen selected in the 2011 draft…..   Endured a troubled childhood. Father died when Dareus was six, leaving mother to support six children. Dareus has lived with others throughout much of his life, including an assistant coach in high school and a sponsor family while in college."

Intangibles: Suspended by the NCAA for the first two games of the 2010 season when it was discovered that he'd accepted inappropriate benefits from an agent.

"According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, these benefits included airfare, lodging, meals and transportation during two trips to Miami, Florida."

http://www.examiner.com/alabama-crimson-tide-in-birmingham/marcell-dareus-gets-2-game-suspension-from-ncaa-saban-comments

How Dareus got 2 games and Green got 4 games is beyond me .  Dareus is considered the 2nd best DT in the draft.  Physically, he reminds me of a more athletic version of Kyle Williams, but if we are sticking with the 3-4 do we really need another short, stocky framed DT. I am not sure why Brian, among others, thinks Dareus is a better fit in the 3-4 than Bowers.

 

Blaine Gabbert – QB:

"Gabbert won 18 games in his two years as the starting quarterback for Mizzou ….Gabbert's decision to enter the draft early was a bit surprising, especially when considering his inexperience taking snaps from under center (though that would not have changed in Missouri's 2011 offense) and inconsistency in the face of pressure. His size, quick release, arm strength and athleticism make him an intriguing prospect. He could be a first-round pick due to the lack of top-tier prospects and the importance of the position…….

Accuracy: Regularly shows the ability to place the ball on his target's numbers, though most of his best throws came within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage because of the Missouri spread offense. Inconsistent throwing outside the hashes, however, making some fantastic throws on out routes and sailing many others above the head of open receivers or coming up short on touch throws over the top. Also inconsistent on short throws when under pressure.

Reading Defenses: Will take time to transition to the NFL because he runs the typical spread offense. Only reads one receiver on many plays, or even half of one side of the field. Stares down receivers and defenders read him easily. Does not look for secondary receivers, tends to take off instead. Fails to see blitzes coming consistently, even when they aren't disguised.

Intangibles: Respected leader in the locker room. Has the confidence to win over the huddle. Willing to put in the time in the film room to master the offense. Very competitive, gives full effort on the field. Played only five games as a high school senior because of foot and shoulder injuries."

Gabbert is currently considered the BPA at QB.  He is well respected by his players and coaches as a hard worker.  He is a winner, but has only started two full years and has had injury issues.  He is accurate and mobile…the kind of QB CHIX would like to mold into a franchise QB.

 

Jake Locker – QB:

 

"Rated by some as the elite prep quarterback in the country despite hailing from a town (Ferndale, Wa.) with a population of approximately 11,000 people, the multi-talented Locker has been compared to everyone from John Elway to Nolan Ryan.

Blessed with a rare combination of size, arm strength and overall athleticism, Locker was an immediate star for the Huskies…… The promise of future greatness is precisely what keeps NFL scouts watching Locker so closely. He remains a highly inconsistent passer who can be fooled by defenses, but his seemingly unlimited upside may still result in a first-round pick…..

Accuracy: Showed significant improvement in 2009, though still a work in progress in this area. Has to do a better job of setting his feet before making the throw. Too often forces receivers on short and intermediate routes to slow or reach wide to collect his throws. Flashes surprising touch down the seam and in hitting the back on swing passes, though he needs to gain consistency here. Proved most accurate in critical situations, drilling a variety of pro-style throws (comebacks, crossing routes and deep-outs) when Washington faced some of its best competition or in situations with the game on the line.

Reading Defenses: May have regressed as a senior in this area after improving significantly from his sophomore season (under Tyrone Willingham) to his junior season (first under Sarkisian). Has a tendency to stare down his primary option. Can be too aggressive and will throw the deep ball into double-coverage.

Intangibles: In addition to his durability and consistency concerns, scouts also have to worry if Locker will remain in football. He's a dual sport athlete who has twice been drafted by MLB's Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.. Highly respected by the coaching staff, teammates and fans. Gutty, determined. Named a team captain in 2009 and 2010.

2010: Missed one game due to broken ribs.

2008: Missed eight games due to torn ligaments and a broken right thumb.

2007: Missed the cal game due to a neck sprain."

Locker is currently considered the 3rd best QB in the draft, but I would expect that to change as the draft process plays out.  He has Tebow like character and a blue collar work ethic.  He is a 4 year starter.  He has shown he can lead a team to a win in big games.  He has been injured, but considering his style of play and the Huskies horrible O-line, I consider Locker very durable and unquestionably tough.  He has a big arm and is mobile.  I would not be surprised if Locker is CHIX highest rated QB.

After taking all this into account, I think the top 3 players on CHIX Big Board will look like this:

1.     Peterson

2.     Locker

3.     Green

I realize I have left some of your favorites off the board.  Go ahead and make a case for them in the comments section.

 

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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disagree...:-)

but only as far as Locker is concerned… I think you hit the nail on the head with character being a main concern of Chix, and a reason I’ve been arguing that Newton, Quinn, and Fairley may not even make our team board. Consistent performance on the field will be another gauge they will measure by, so I think the top 3 will be Peterson, Bowers, and Green…

Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!

by Cinga on Jan 15, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah.... Locker is a reach at this point, but if you're going to reach it might as well be for a QB

My guess is that Locker closes the gap by draft day. Bowers was my #4 and could make it into the top 3 if Locker doesn’t show well at the Senior Bowl and at the Combine.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If you see him as a QB

But if CHIX sees him as a franchise QB, I have no problem with taking him at 3.

I think lockers stock will “rise” from the media hype. I really hope to see how he does at the senior bowl. I think locker has alot of what you want in a QB. I really like how he continues to look downfield as be moves out of the pocket. Also how he holds the ball as he moves (holds ball up with 2 hands ready to release). I think he does well on the move.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed....I am fine taking Locker at #3

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 16, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Great write Joe!

You show write articles more often, I like your breakdowns.

I agree with the character angle, I think your absolutely right. However I don’t necessarily agree with the draft board.

IMO the Chix board will probably look something like:

1. Peterson
2. Bowers
3. Green (Try to trade-down first)**
4. Locker

  • The great news here is that Cinci & Cleveland would both be decent trade partners and we actually would need to ask for that much we could actually afford to cut them a decent deal to move up for Green.

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Jan 15, 2011 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

wouldn’t need to ask for that much

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Jan 15, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks but the majority of the breakdowns are from CBSsports....hope I made that clear

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

there....found the block quotes button :-)

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I figured but I still liked your angle on the Character thing, I think you’re onto something

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Jan 15, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So you believe the FO

will choose between 2 juniors & Locker?

I guess we’ll see.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 15, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

Yes....the majority of the top players this season are Juniors

Who do you like?

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

As I have said

on previous posts I always wait for combine results. So many players hurt/help their cause with these results, and colleges have height/weight/40 times that can be grossly exaggerated. It amazes me that players are 2-3 inches shorter or run a 40 in 4.5 vs 4.3 or such.

In general if 2 players are approximately equal I prefer the more experienced (SR vs JR) choice.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 15, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed.....I prefer Sr as well,

but overwhelming talent can’t be ignored. Besides, just because you like someone now doesn’t mean you can’t change your mind later :-)

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true.

Last year I was high on Brandon Spikes. Some people predicted he might be drafted as high as 7th. But his combine results were disappointing, and he fell to the 2nd round to NE. Some Pats blog members think he is a poor fit in a 3-4 D, and might be cut next year if he doesn’t step up his game, or NE drafts a “better Spikes” this year.

One player that I want to see combine results on is Von Miller. He looks shorter than listed, possibly under 6’.
His vitals according to The Sporting News: Height: 6-1 1/4, Weight: 243, 40 time: 4.56
Some Rumblers are high on Miller, but right now I don’t think he is 1st or 2nd round talent. If his combine results show something I may think he can go higher.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 15, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

James Harrison: 5’ 10" Doesn’t look too bad at OLB imo….

MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
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by uPitt_BillsFan on Jan 16, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

did you see the size of his arms in the cowher interview? they are massive. that will make up the 4 inches.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Good example

of an undrafted player (2002) that was cut a couple times but eventually found his niche.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 16, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

the combine

doesnt really change a players status. It really is used to only confirm the athletic abilities. If you put too much into the combine results, then you are only looking at the athletic ability, not the player on the field. It changes the players status in the media based on results, but most teams already have a good idea where a player will fall with results.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree.

Each season players rise and fall after their combine. Too many to reference.
Watch this year. Plenty of changes in store for predictions.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 16, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the Peterson

and Locker pick and i believe in a perfect world, we could land both.

Wont happen, but possible

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 15, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think Locker would have to perform very poorly at the Sr Bowl/Combine or get injured to drop that far... but who knows.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

or we could move up for hims

like Denver for Tebow last year, say our second and the extra 4th

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 15, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love for that to happen

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not happening.

Unless Locker has a terrible senior bowl, he will bepicked by the Redskins, I predict.

Shanahann took Jay Cutler at #11, Locker is a better Cutler. Shanahann was happy with the Cutler pick, and was doing a nice job developing him before he was fired,

Cutler liked Shanahann too. With what has been going down with McNabb, I just can’t see the skins passing on Locker who is a better Jay Cutler. Also add in the fact Shanahann likes QBs who can roll out, Locker makes even more sense,
Shanny signed Plummer because of his roll out ability, You will be hard pressed to find a better QB who has better vision and accuracy rolling out than Locker. Even better is he is actually even a better passer rolling left, which is very rare from a RH QB.

I don’t think there is even a remote chance Locker lasts past the skins pick, unless he totally bombs the senior bowl.

Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010

by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 16, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree

locker will go earlier than most people think. I will be surprised if locker fell out of the top ten

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Joe

Great info. Great job!

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Jan 15, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

what about trading down with...

Cincinatti picking up and extra fourth rounder, selecting Bowers. Then trading back into the late first round and getting Locker… now wouldnt that be a great begining…

though i still want Mallett, but he’s not apart of this conversation.

I still remember flying paper airplanes at One Bills Drive during a game against the Redskins during the strike year... my first Bills game.

I own a Rob Johnson signed jersey, so with that in mind if i like the Bills QB just expect him to fall on a football and break his ribs.

by John Paul King Baron on Jan 15, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Sounds good to me,

and you are sure welcome to add Mallett to the conversation :-)

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So who does Cinci believe is so worthwhile that they need to trade

up a whole whopping 1 spot? Not trying to insult you but I just don’t see who Cinci believes they NEED to get and WON’T be there at pick 4? I think a more likely scenario is if Peterson is there at 3 he’s a Bill and then possibly trading back into the 1st for Locker ONLY if CHIX is sold on him as a franchise QB.

"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes

by panekattack on Jan 15, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I also wouldn't mind

taking Mallet in the 2nd however if they think he can be a great QB as well. Mallett will need a good line to be a good QB like Bledsoe but he is a guy who seems to be able to make every throw with great zip on the ball.

"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes

by panekattack on Jan 15, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

More likely someone behind Cincy Really likes Green

And is convinced Cincy will pick him. That would be the perfect situation for the Bills. Can’t think of who that would be.

by milwaukee on Jan 16, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that is much more likely to happen than Cinci trading

San Fran, Tenn., Wash., and Minn. all may want to trade up to #3 to get a QB because Arizona is picking at 5 and would draft a QB before any of those teams could I assume. Or like you said maybe a team fears Cinci will take Green and trade up with us, only problem with that is if we trade will we still get “our guy” at whatever number we trade down to? I’d rather the Bills just stay put and take an elite talent unless an offer comes up that they just can’t turn down.

"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes

by panekattack on Jan 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Nice breakdown of some of the top prospects.

Generally the simplest explanation is the most likely. CHIX spoke openly about taking Spiller because he was viewed as one of the most exciting prospects in the draft. Remember at that point Parrish was an unknown as it related to filling the gadget role in Gailey’s offense. Spiller was seen as that do-everything sort of back (except block). I think CHIX took Spiller to provide fans some exciting moments in what promised to be a dreary year.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 15, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks......you could be right

Mangini’s comments just got me to wondering how much character factors into their definition of BPA.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 15, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t rule it out.. I just see the butts-in-seats angle as a bit more important. Jauron reportedly didn’t take Michael Oher because Oher was kind of an odd guy…..so it does matter.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 15, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i heard the same thing about why we didnt take Oher. Odd, but had strong character. May not be the quickest learner, but we know Jauron wasn;t the best evaluator of talent.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i think Ralph

had a lot to do with that pick

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 15, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.

by radan on Jan 16, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

All three could be available and more than likely.

Who knows, great job Joe. Last year I wanted spiller in the first and an OT in the second. When I knew we needed help on defense in a bad way. This year I want Green in the first and an OT in the second, when I know we need D help in a bad way.

So many prototypical QB’s and none are jumping off the board at us with a #3 pick and they all could be gone by round two with bigger projects to groom in the later rounds. Makes me shake my head, we are in a great position to go franchise and the cupboard is bare.

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by VanScottM on Jan 15, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

My two cents

Great write up Joe P.

I like Locker, everything points to a guy who will work hard. I would gamble on him because he seems to be the “franchise QB” prospect in my eyes. A franchise QB has higher value than any other position on the field. If we pass on a QB at 3, then Chix doesnt think the top 3 QBs are worth the Franchise label. For example see Clausen from last year.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 16, 2011 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

High character was something I heard about almost all of last years picks. I think you are right and that if its a close call character will win. Carrington for example wasn’t a big name guy because he was from a small school which he only went to so that he could be closer to his kid. That’s the kind of guy who is going to work hard to get better in his career because his family first mentality demands it.

by Robot Nixon on Jan 16, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

Good info on Carrington....I don't think I had heard that before.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 16, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont think theres any doubt character is a huge factor for nix

-we all consider spiller to be a good guy
-troup was a self proclaimed ‘mommas boy’
-carrington, as you said, went to a small school and never partied so he could be with his kid
-easley went to uconn on an ACADEMIC scholarship before walking onto the football team and climbing the ranks
-weve all heard about wangs tough and disciplined family background
im sure the same could be said for moats and batten, i just dont remember hearing it

by boomsauce on Jan 16, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Marshawn Lunch was a mommas boy

Didnt stop him from running over someone’s daughter or carrying a loaded gun

by badnewsBills on Jan 17, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Lynch

was drrafted by the old staff

"War Memorial Stadium looks as if whatever war it was a memorial to had been fought within its confines."-Brock Yates

by Blo2Death on Jan 17, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Post!

You changed my mind on Peterson…that being said my top 3 are:

1. Bowers
2. Dareus
3. Peterson

"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation

by atlantalove on Jan 16, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You're thinking about the say thing I am.

We need help in the front 7 1st.

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Jan 18, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

nice job joe – rec’d

If we don’t get a star at 3 then epic fail. Locker, Gabbert, Peterson etc… i really don’t care who it is as long as they become awesome.

South Park showed us the benefit of Captain Hindsight

by J2 on Jan 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

LOL.....very true....we really need some awesomeness on this team

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 16, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great article

But Locker is a reach at #3

by Winnie33 on Jan 16, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Locker is only a reach at 3

if he doesn’t become a franchise QB if he does then it looks like a great pick and the 1st time in years we actually hit a homerun with our 1st rd pick.

"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes

by panekattack on Jan 17, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO overwhelming need trumps BPA with good character

Overwhelming need is dee line and pass rush.

prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13

by jpheff on Jan 16, 2011 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

I would tend to agree, but after the Spiller pick I think it is safe to say that CHIX don't

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 16, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta learn from mistakes

instead of repeating them.

prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13

by jpheff on Jan 16, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

am i the only person who thinks its too early to call the spiller pick a mistake? its been 1 season, no other pick there woulda made the bills good in 2010. all im concerned with is how spillers playing in 2011 and 12.

by boomsauce on Jan 16, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Many Rumblers

believe in the “3 year rule” before calling players a bust. Include me in this group.

That’s why #58 has to step up his game this coming year.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 16, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe in the 3 year rule before declaring a Bust, but I refuse to deny myself the right to call a pick a mistake.

I think almost any 1st round talent on the defensive side of the ball would have been better for the team, ergo, it was a mistake.

MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
-abayarde

by uPitt_BillsFan on Jan 16, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I like a CB there IFFFF

he is a true shutdown… but I know a corner right? sounds worse than it probably is

Go Bills because I'm a blind homer... sort of

by killascript on Jan 16, 2011 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

sounds worse than it probably is

100% right. If we draft a shutdown corner, It makes our Defense so much better. Case in point, NYJ. Revis isn’t on that team, they don’t A. make the playoffs B. Beat Indianapolis.

by BillsfanDan on Jan 17, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked your analysis...

but wondered why it took so long to figure out the criteria for player selection.

by blknites on Jan 17, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Buddy Nix

  Don’t think for one minute that Nix is going to pick BPA with the #1 pick. He might, but, if you remember a statement he made when first hired. In general this is what he said, if any GM tells you that they always pick BPA a head of need, he is probably lying.

by Winnie33 on Jan 17, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

its easier for CHIX to select the BPA when virtually every position could be upgraded

There really isn’t any way to mess up this pick IMO, except taking a QB, with the amount of talent in the draft Locker could fall out of the first round and be sitting there with the 33rd pick
NOTE i want Joseph Barksdale (OT LSU) maybe in the third/fourth round, he is going to be a starting LT in the NFL

by badnewsBills on Jan 17, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

I against taking a QB at #3 overall too. Who knows what happens at the end of the 1st/top of the 2nd. Could get interesting on draft day.

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Jan 18, 2011 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

*I’m

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Jan 18, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice post Joe

Lookin forward to more from you. REC

"War Memorial Stadium looks as if whatever war it was a memorial to had been fought within its confines."-Brock Yates

by Blo2Death on Jan 17, 2011 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

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