Bills Pathetic In Season-Ending 38-7 Loss to Jets
by MattRichWarren on Jan 2, 2011 4:08 PM EST
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PrintComing into today the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills had very little to play for. The Jets had locked up a wild card berth and the 4-11 Bills had nothing to play for but pride. Turns out the Bills pride was more pathetic than powerful.
The Bills offense without starting QB Ryan Fitzpatrick scored zero points, lost six turnovers, gained only six first downs, and allowed three sacks and multiple QB hurries on Brian Brohm before he was replaced by Levi Brown.
The defense wasn't any better allowing the Jets JV squad to amass 388 yards and 17 first downs. Third-string running back Joe McKnight toted the rock 32 times for 158 yards and back-up QB Mark Brunell threw his first two touchdown passes since 2006. Wildcat QB Brad Smith took two option snaps for a total of 60 yards on the Jets first possession and the Jets never looked back.
Buffalo's lone bright spot was an interception return for a touchdown by Jairus Byrd in the second half. It was Buffalo's only score on the day on a well-timed jump by the second-year man out of Oregon.
Brian Moorman set the record for most punts ever by a Bills punter after he booted six on the day for an impressive net of 41.7 yards per punt.
The Bills finish the season 1-5 against the AFC East and 4-12 overall. It's the team's worst record since finishing 3-13 in 2001.
Vent, Bills fans. It'll be at least eight months until we see them on a field again.
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"This is what happens Larry!, This is what happens! "-Walter Sobchak" "Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor!!??"-John Belushi
by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Jan 2, 2011 4:10 PM EST reply actions
keep wishing
I doubt we get one where we are picking,
too low for Luck, too high for the rest.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Locker
you’re the one who convinced me to like Locker…with you post a while back
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Yuck
Did you see him the other night?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
Did he win?
Against one of the best defenses in the NCAA…with no cast and yet he still won(and ran all over them)
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
locker ran all over them
Sounds like a great conversion candidate for TE.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
by Montel on Jan 2, 2011 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was patient
And did what he needed to do to win(by himself)…sounds like a good QB to me
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Could say the same for Cam Newton,
At least Locker plays in a pro style offense going through pro style progressions.
Newton is starting at year one of going through pro style progressions when drafted, without the benefit of a spread option, which on most passes is just looking at one guy downfield and heaving it up or one guy short/outlet since defenses have to play run first, He has no experience going through 3-5 wr progressions, and doesn’t even get a chance at the senior bowl to show if he can do it if he enters the draft.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
progressions
At this point they are all starting with ZERO pro experience. They will all get a brand new Playbook, with progressions that compliment their new teams offense. You can’t equate college progressions to NFL experience because the passing windows are much tighter. That’s why scouts look at completion percentages, decision making and accuracy
Jake Locker trails Newton, and Kaepernick in all three areas. Gabbert and Mallet have issues similar to Locker, inaccurate and poor decision making.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
by Montel on Jan 2, 2011 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jake Locker trails Newton, and Kaepernick in all three areas. Gabbert and Mallet have issues similar to Locker, inaccurate and poor decision making.
See it’s hard to say that, because Locker is being asked to choose from more decisions each play, while all the others arent. Jake is being asked to make the best decision out of 4 or 5 options, while the others are being asked to make a decision out of fewer options.
Look through 1st and 2nd rd QB draft picks the last bunch of years, the majority come from offenses that have pro style passing progressions and at least takes some snaps from under center. This is not the read option.
This is why people are so high on luck. He goes through multiple receiver progressions already like a pro, and plays in a pro style offense, where he has shown he can still go through his progressions while dropping back from under center. His chances of being able to do it in the pros, are greatly increased versus a read option QB like Newton. Same questions were asked about Tebow, and his footwork at the Senior Bowl showed the problems. Look at all the QB coaches Tebow brought in to help him start working on his game to get him ready for the pros, because college hadn’t. He was a NCAA legend, Heisman Winner, National Championship winner, Highest Character, and was still barely a 1st round draft pick. If he had done what he did playing in a Pro Style offense, he would have gone 1st overall.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
decision making
I am echoing what the online mock boards are saying and the typical knock on Locker is poor decision making and inacurate throws. I watched his play on the bowl game and once he felt pressured he tucked the ball and ran. In the second half, either they were using called run plays or he was ducking and running by choice. You can say no one was open, then again you can also say he didn’t try to buy time for the receivers to break off their routes. His swing passes were poor, his attempt at a back shoulder sideline pass was over the guys head.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
by Montel on Jan 2, 2011 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
once again
a pro style offense requires the QB process more information, a read option offense doesn’t. Locker would have much better numbers playing for Auburn, or Florida, or Oregon, where he is not asked to process so much information. At least Locker has begun the process, so has Luck.
Cam Newton may be a great athlete, but ask yourself how does Tim Tebow go #25 in the draft while Jay Cutler was drafted #10?
The reason is the offenses they played in college.
Now ask yourself if Tim Tebow went #25, and may have gone lower if the Broncos didn’t take him because of the Bellicheat/Daniels/Meyer connection, where should Cam Newton go? He has a Heisman, and a shot at a national championship. But doesn’t have the lengthy number of Div I starts Tebow had, Doesn’t have the high character tebow does. Won’t play in a Senior Bowl if he comes out this year for teams to see where he is at in terms of a pro style offense.
Like Der Jaeger said, Cutler is the precedent for a Locker style player.
There really is no precedent for Read Option QBs who have made it in the pros, Tebow, is kind of the measuring stick at this point, and it is still a mixed bag.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
you’re the one who convinced me to like Locker…with you post a while back
I like Locker, I think he is a right pick around 10-25
I just think there is no way Nix would take him fourth, and if they liked him enough where they could get what they perceive as value, he’ll already be taken.
I just can’t see him making it past both the Skins and Seahawks.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
I sure don't want him #4
But I’d love it if they could trade back into the 1st and snag him
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
I just don’t think he is going to be there, where they could do it. I really think the skins or seahawks take him, whoever drafts higher.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I love Locker. I think with the right coaching and patience from the fans, he’ll become one of the best QB’s in the NFL. The kid has a rifle arm, is extremely tough, one of the most athletic QB’s since Vick, has played in a pro style offense under Sarkisian, can make all the throws and is a great leader with good QB-IQ. His issues remain consistency, staying healthy, accuracy at times is sloppy and at times he makes erratic throws and his technique needs improving but all those things are correctable imo.
by BuffaloBeliever on Jan 3, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I want one too, but
I absolutely despise not being able to stop the run as you should be. It’s depressing seeing RBs running around in circles around our defense.
Hooray Detroit!
They beat the Vikings!
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
horrendous
feel bad for Brohm, never had a shot to get comfortable, looked decent the first two drives, but the O-Line showed pantheon level ineptitude, forget a franchise QB, can we draft 2 tackles in the first round? somehow? anyhow?
by elfudge35 on Jan 2, 2011 4:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
NO!
We need to get DLINE…
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
very true if brohm was responsible for making blocking adjustment calls, you see fitz pointing out overloads pre snap, didn’t see that with Brohm.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oline isnt as bad as they looked today, we know they seem competent when Fitz is back there, and its not because Fitz is shaking off tacklers, he gets rid of the ball on time, assigns blockers, and then is cognizant of where the free man might be. Today the oline looked confused, they didnt have a chance to get beat man to man, they were too busy tripping over each other to block the same guy. It was clownish.
For all those who were wondering if Brian Brohm was an answer
I think you got that question answered quite definitively.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
We got better
He’s not even an answer as a backup QB
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Add him to the cut list.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
Now with more Brohm!
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Ryan Fitzpatrick means so much to this team
hes one of four QBs who have demonstrated they can survive behind our revolving doors bookended our o-line
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
That’s not an offensive line. That’s a line-up at a latrine.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah….but let’s not forget how inept the offense was w/ him in there last week. He doesn’t get a pass for the teams record against good teams.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 2, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oakland won
Lets go Houston
Lets go Colts
Lets go Broncos
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
broncos are the only ones who affect our draft position.
They win we’re 3, they lose we pick 4
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Cincinatti
right?
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
cinci lost
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
True
but if Houston wins and Indy wins we go ahead of them for SOS
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
ahhhhh
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Houston will beat Trent
Bet the ranch
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
oh and
Chan Gailey better do something about the hands problem this team has. We drop passes, he fumble, we can’t fall on loose balls.
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
Its Stevie
he dropped 3-4 passes from what I saw
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Stevie drops quite a few
its the biggest thing he should work on in the offseason
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
by poz on Jan 2, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Stevie has gotten a hall pass
for his drops. If Terrell Owens had this many drops last year we would have crucified him.
by WhatGoesAround on Jan 2, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
this is true
but TO was a 30 something year old vet who was here for one year. Stevie is young and our own guy who we’re developing. He caught 70+ passes, 1000 yards, and 10 TDs – huge numbers and something TO didnt even come close to doing. When your as young as Stevie you have time to improve and fix it, TO is in the twilight of his career and always had the dropsies.
The league should reward us with a compensatory 1st round pick for ending the Farve misery story. - wab2
by poz on Jan 2, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
plus he’s making less than 1/10th of what TO got from us. I think Stevie is set to make 535K next year?
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Poz and Whitner
Keeping up the Big 10 New Years tradition of looking like crap in and around the New Year ;)
How long have you been saving that one?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
seems more like an accurate observation than some great joke he's been waiting to break out.
"I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee. And specifically, not a Buffalo Bill."
-Joe Dimaggio
But we are 3rd or 4th worst!
Finishing 2nd worst would have been the worst.
we can stillget 2nd...
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Bye bye Brian Brohm
clearly he’s not the future…
Locker anyone…
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
No way on Locker. Guy is an athete but not a QB. If he can’t put up good numbers in the Pac-10, there’s no way he’s going to do well in the NFL.
Outside of the low likelyhood of getting Luck, I’d rather get Mallett or Newton.
Locker is...
smarter and has a better arm than Newton…Mallet is stiff as a rock in the pocket, he is slower than some OL players
He has 0 supporting cast, which is not his fault, he is a fantastic player
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
The same was said about Trent Edwards when he went 0 for his senior year.
Locker to me is Losman 2.0. Newton has put up better numbers in a much tougher conference. You can’t argue that fact.
To say he’s smarter is ridiculous when the numbers bear out otherwise.
He is smarter
Auburn runs 12 main plays…Locker runs 300+, he has a better IQ…smarts has nothing to do with stats.
Newton has 3 good RBs and a solid OL…Locker has nothing.
Locker is nothing like Trent/Losman…Locker is a gifted athlete with a great IQ and a developable arm…
People need to stop lloking at stats…the draft is more than stats
SEE: Jason White, Troy Smith, Colt Brennan etc.
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Locker finished 8th in his conference in both yards per game AND passing efficiency.
Completion percentage? 9th!??!?!?! You are telling me he’s a good QB and he barely completes 50 percent of his passes?
Yup, that’s the guy I want leading my team. Never won a meaningful game in college and never performed at a high level consistently.
To compare Newton a player in the mold of Vince Young or Michael Vick to guys who no mobility in spread offenses like White Smith and Brennan is ridiculous. LOL.
Understand this
If Lcoker was on Auburn HE’D BE AN EVEN BETTER PROSPECT! Newton would be absolutly nothing, a no name, notta if he played on Washington with team and cast
Locker on Auburn wouldn’t be as successful as Newton(because Newton was build for a COLLEGE spread offense)
Locker=NFL QB Newton=NCAA QB
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Frankly...
…I’d rather have the guy who cost every team in his conference a million dollars BY WINNING.
Go for Kaepernick.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Jan 2, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ew
a 4th round QB is very unlikely to become a franchise QB..I may be wrong though
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Worked for New England
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
and the odds of that...
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Let's look at more stats ...
Defenses Auburn played (total defense ranks): Arkansas State (105), Mississippi St. (50), Clemson (19), South Carolina (47), Louisiana-Monroe (68), Kentucky (45), Arkansas (33), LSU (8), Mississippi (81), Chattanooga (FCS), Georgia (23), Alabama (5), South Carolina (47)
Newton lit up numerous top defenses including defenses that are quite good like Alabama, LSU, and Clemson.
Defenses Locker played (total defense ranks): BYU (24), Syracuse (7), Nebraska (12), USC (83), Oregon St (86)., Arizona (34), ASU (57), Stanford (22), Oregon (25), UCLA (94), Cal (18), Wazzou (118), Nebraska (12)
Locker had some pretty awful games against top flight competition and even struggled against some AWFUL pac – 10 defenses, a conference not regarded for defense.
Again – he’s done squat against good teams. He needs too many variables to fall in his favor to show he’s good, including time, which is something we don’t have.
You need to realize
HE HAS NO SUPPORTING CAST!
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
To compare Newton a player in the mold of Vince Young or Michael Vick
He’s not in the mold of Vick, Vick played in a pro style offense in college.
Kylesaurus Rex Williams Pro Bowl 2010
by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
But Ryan Fitzpatrick has one of the highest IQ evaluations of any NFL player ever. It still hasn’t put to rest the idea that he may not be the Bills’ long-term starter. He’s thrown plenty of TDs and made plenty of plays, but he’s had nowhere near the success-in terms of wins-as Vince Young has. VY has one of the lowest IQ evaluations in the NFL.
It’s not cut and dry, this whole issue…unfortunately.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Auburn runs 12 main plays…Locker runs 300+, he has a better IQ…smarts has nothing to do with stats.
Newton has 3 good RBs and a solid OL…Locker has nothing.
So what your saying is: Take the QB who LOSES using a pro style playbook over a QB who is UNDEFEATED and unstoppable using the same 12 plays?
Have you considered what Newton could do with MORE than 12 plays?
smarts has nothing to do with stats.
I prefer a QB with a PROVEN winning record, not someone who i have to make excuses for why he didn’t win. If I wanted a QB to make excuses for, we could have kept Trent Edwards.
BTW; Auburn has more than 12 plays, but why bother with details eh?
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Newton has a WAYYYYY better cast than Locker
Locker is by himself…Newton has 3 solid RB and a nice line…Locker doesn’t
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Kaepernick has a far worse cast than either Newton or Locker
and puts up better results.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
In what conference?
ok…thanks
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
See below post
For the SEC’s incompetence in bowl games this year against anyone other than the equally overhyped, undertalented Big 10.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Locker is in the PAC-10
SO I’m confused about what you’re talking about
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
It is also quite ironic that you say that when...
AFC top seed: MAC quarterback
AFC #2 seed: 6th round draft choice
AFC second best team: Div II quarterback
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
AFC top seed: MAC quarterback
Who everybody knew was a first round prospect coming out of college.
AFC #2 seed: 6th round draft choice
From a supposedly overrated Big 10 school.
AFC second best team: Div II quarterback
Who transfered out of a supposedly overrated Big 10 school and then who everybody knew was an early round prospect when he was going through the draft process.
"You mean @TWHITNER. It’s how he prefers to be referenced." - Jon Harrington
and he's a division 1AA quarterback.
"I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee. And specifically, not a Buffalo Bill."
-Joe Dimaggio
Yeah, but I think the point Calvert was trying to make was that everybody overrates the big conference schools and players and underrates the small school guys. But that’s not what the NFL does since Flacco and Big Ben went in the first round. It was actually the guy who won the Big 10 one year that went under the radar.
"You mean @TWHITNER. It’s how he prefers to be referenced." - Jon Harrington
2 1st round picks
And a total shot in the dark
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Supporting cast
The same was said about Trent Edwards, we all know how that turned out.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
by Montel on Jan 2, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tougher conference?
The SEC is 0-3 in bowl games this year against conferences other than the Big 10, including a loss to a C-USA squad. I think they’re getting exposed.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Thats just a random stat, look at the entire season of play and the SEC has the best out of conference record. Who is better this year?
I know people are sick of hearing about the SEC, but the depth of play there is better. The bad teams just aren’t as bad as the bottom of the other conferences, thats what makes the difference.
These two sites don’t agree on everything, but they agree about the SEC.
Why don't you bring up Rob Johnson too
having a SB Ring w/ Tampa. Please don’t remind us of past failures at QB. Bad enough as it is.
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
Shame on you, Buffalo Bills.
They should all donate their game checks to charity since they’re in such a giving mood.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions
The Jets first drive said it all
They weren’t going to pass, the Bills had to know it, and the Jets – with third-and-fourth-stringers – still ran for 86 yards and almost 300 for the game.
How many years is Buffalo going to allow opponents to run all over them and eat up the clock? We’ve had enough problems on the OL and QB for quite awhile but the defense was HORRENDOUS this season – a step backwards, if that’s possible.
Not an easy one to watch
but it’s over and we’re onto the most exciting time for Bills fans – the offseason
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
Kansas
Carry on my wayward bills
there’ll be peace when you are done
lay your weary heads to rest
don’t you cry no more
Masquerading as a teamwith a reason
My charade is the event of the season
And if Brohm claims to be a starting qb, well
It surely means that he doesn’t know.
by Birddin on Jan 2, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Apparently you didn't watch the offense play
we need more than defense
Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt!
both looked horrible
but it was the jets second and third stringers on offense and the still ran at will against our first stringers. Fitz was out as well as two regular wide receivers.
Fat, Drunk, & Stupid is No way to go through life.
Only 5 more months
Until April!
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
What?
Your calendar must be different than mine.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 2, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
True
but the draft is in late April so I said 5 months
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
New post on front page. Bills can’t pick lower than fourth.
You can't have CHANGE without CHAN.
Tweet
Buffalo Rumblings
and so it begins
4 months of:
we need OL
we need DL
we need a QB
we need to stop the run
we need a pass rush
we need OLBs
we need ILBs
we’ll draft BPA
we’ll draft for need
we’ll trade up
we’ll trade down
you’re right
you’re wrong
Abridged version: WE NEED!!!
I’m hibernating until the end of April.
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
What?
This is the most exciting part of the year for Bills fans
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
I used to feel that way. Then their top picks started sucking.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That is why the months leading up to the draft are so exciting.
Then the draft comes and …..well….you know….With the ? pick in the draft, the Bills reach for a player who is going to underperform or be a flat out BUST.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and
beat you with experience.
If the ship has turned a corner it’s probably still uncomfortably close to the iceberg. - Ron From NM
by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to feel that way. Then their top picks started sucking.
You stopped feeling that way when our top picks starting sucking? Wasn’t that in like 1986?
"I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee. And specifically, not a Buffalo Bill."
-Joe Dimaggio
I’d rather not think how far back it goes.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2011 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
the way the Bills do it
it’s like Russian Roulette with 5 bullets instead of 1.
What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.
Glad they lost
I never root for draft position, but once I saw the list of New York’s inactives (realizing they couldn’t care less about the game), I was cool with locking in a top 4 pick considering just how far they could have slipped with a win. Winning is important in re-building, but a game like today’s would not have taught any lessons because New York played it like a preseason game. The talent on this roster is abysmal; they need a homerun draft in the worst way…I’ll always remember today as Aaron Maybin’s last NFL game; go Bills in 2011.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Jan 2, 2011 4:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Your last statement
is bold
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Everything backfired on Goodell, too. It doesn’t matter if it’s a division game if it’s a poorly matched division game. Much of yesterday’s action was pathetic and one-sided.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2011 7:36 AM EST up reply actions
Denver
7-0
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Oh, I'm so not sure how to feel...
Jimmy stunk up the place in his first year at QB, so Carolina’s looking for QB help… would they even want to trade up?
As for the game… I was numb to it and still I got disappointed. Horrible, horrible play on both sides of the ball. This really wasn’t what we needed, even the draft-more-important crowd would agree we’d have done better with a close one. They’re going to be brooding about this for months.
I dont know how Carolina can trade up from number 1..........
that would take some creativity.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 2, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go Carolina!!!!
you can do it!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Cant wait for the yearly Chris Brown post in which he tells up which players (led by Chris Kelsay)
show up tomorrow at the facility and start hitting the weights getting ready for next season……..
It’s like clockwork.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 2, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions
and start hitting the weights getting ready for next season
Well at least Kelsay hits something regularly, because we know, QBs and ball carriers surely don’t qualify.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He hit Brunell yesterday and got flagged for it.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 3, 2011 6:32 AM EST up reply actions
That was a BS call. A complete lack of proper attention by the refs.
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In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
Take a look at the picture I put on this post.
Brohm actually did get hit in the chin and no flag was thrown.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 3, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I'm looking forward to the photos of locker cleanout
always led by Donte Whitner and a funny hat
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Thats a good one too.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 2, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Horrendous OFFENSIVE LINE - The Reason WE STINK
Year in and year out….until it gets fixed we will continue to stink up the league. Tom Brady has 10 minutes to throw…our QBs have 1 second. At least Fitz has it figuered out. No rookie QB is gonna come in and perform at Brady and Brees level with our line. I don’t care if he is Luck or Locker. He will stink until we do SOMETHING….ANYTHING please about that suckin line.
by Bruce Smith's Shoe on Jan 2, 2011 5:48 PM EST reply actions
Tom Brady has 10 minutes to throw
Only because of the “protect Brady at any cost league” that gets them away with holding more than any other team aside from possibly the Colts… Watch them close in the playoffs, especially against the better pass rush teams….
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Manning and Roethlisberger have suspect lines at best. Same with Buffalo. All three teams found some semblance of success this season on offense. It’s not a given that a weak OL means a weak offense.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 3, 2011 6:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Opinions please
Do you guys think Leodis is a bust as of now?
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Not at all...
inconsistent, yes…bust, no. He is still talented, sometimes it takes time to click. I think we can see that he and the rest of this time could benefit from a pass rush or quality defensive coord (Perry was the best he’s had yet).
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jan 2, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think he still has good potential?
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
Leo needs to play on instinct.....if he has to think, he sucks
With the ? pick in the draft, the Bills reach for a player who is going to underperform or be a flat out BUST.
I don’t think he is a bust.
Just the new Whitner. Inconsistent early on, may never play up to his draft spot.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Leo will be fine....
understand this was equivalent to his second year on the field… he’ll do better next year if we can get a better pass rush… Absolutely no one can, or should be asked, to cover for more than about 3 1/2 seconds which happened way too often this year….
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Excellent point
It is his 2nd year in, on defense with very little pass rush where the DB’s have to concentrate as much on defending the run much as the pass due to front 7’s inability to stop the run. Is it me or have fans become to impatient to let players develop—I hear people label Leodis a bust—Spiller a wasted pick and of course then there is Maybin…
"You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun."
– Al Capone
That is a great question
I think McKelvin IS a bust at this point considering he was the 11th pick and is three years in and he’s a below average player at this point. He has shown promise at times and it’s still possible he can turn it around, but potential after three years just isn’t good enough. Buffalo’s high picks over the past 9 drafts or so are so wildly underwhelming that their demise as a franchise is totally understandable.
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by Port Royal on Jan 2, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think Leodis is as reliable as they might like him to be.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2011 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Leodis is as reliable as they might like him to be.
well, yeah.
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by JPH on Jan 3, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
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