For the love of God trade down.

by Cory Lewis on Jan 25, 2011 11:00 PM EST

The bills need starting quality players and with a record number of underclassmen declaring this draft there’s likely to be a lot of them available. If the bills stick with there current picks they’re almost bound to stumble in to a good player or two but with the way they’ve drafted in recent years I’d rather have a few more chances.

The last two teams to trade down from the third pick where the 49er’s in 2000, where the skins gave up several picks (12, 24, 119, and 154 overall) for Chris Samuels. In 1997 Seattle traded up for DB Shawn Springs giving Atlanta 11, 41, 70, 100 for their 3 and 63. Yes I know Samuels and Springs where both probowlers, but the bills need depth and there are picks to be had.

There have been a number of trade down scenarios suggested but I think the most intriguing, and most unlikely, being the Pats. There years of trading down have put them in an amazing position in this years draft. They have enough picks to go after whoever they want and still have enough left for a decent draft. If the bills are lucky the Pats will fall in love with Green or Peterson they could put a hell of a package together. Drafttek (http://drafttek.com) has pitched this idea, as you might have read in another fan post (dukedoc76). With that trade (BUF 3 for NE 17, 28 and 33) in mind I offer this:

Round 1: 17th overall- Nate Solder, T, Colorado.

Round 1: 28th overall- J. J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin.

Round 2: 33rd overall- Mendez Wilson, ILB, Illinois.

Round 2: 34th overall- Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame

Round 3: Owen Marecic, FB/ILB, Stanford

Round 4: Shareece Wright, CB, So Cal

Round 4: Jeron Johnson, SS, Boise State

Round 5: Lee Ziemba, OG, Auburn

Round 6: Tyrod Taylor, QB, VT

Round 7: Ugo Chinasa, DE, OSU

I think the NE trade is unlikely at best; they will continue to trade down and find value late. But there are other teams that might consider trading up, and who knows who catch fire in the senior bowl or the combine.

Poll

what do you think?

NE wont go for it

99 votes

Bills wont go for it

16 votes

why not

10 votes

who cares projections will change 10 times by the draft

41 votes

166 votes | Poll has closed

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I love trade down scenarios!

I note that you don’t really address the QB position until the end of the draft. I don’t see CHIX waiting that long. The plan may be to groom a guy behind Fitz but that plan does require someone to groom. If Buffalo drops back in the first round I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Bills do it to get into position to take a QB.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 25, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions

Now now Ron.....lemme fix that for you.

I love trade ~~down~~ scenarios!

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by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 25, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions

A fair point

But there’s no trading up for Buffalo this year—at least not in the 1st round.

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 26, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions

I thought about that but after the last 2 drafts i hate the idea of drafting someone early to not start them. with the senior bowl the nflpa game the combine and infinit prodays between now and then who knows wholl riase or fall.

by Cory Lewis on Jan 26, 2011 6:35 AM EST up reply actions

I'd love it

except that at 17 I would want Carimi and not Solder. RT needed please!!! The rest of the picks I would love. Great idea and it’d be great if it happened but I don’t see the hoodie going for it unfortunately.

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by TexasBillsFanatic on Jan 25, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions

Good draft. I like your way of thinking.

by loupiccone on Jan 26, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions

I wanted to vote all the above.

Mainly NE wont do it. They are way to smart to trade up for a WR. What scares me is there are teams out there that will trade with them on next years picks, again. Then they could trade up next year for someone worth trading up for (LUCK). Now I have to go wash the puke out of my mouth. Just when you can start to dream about the end of the Brady era then Luck. can you say NIGHTMARE!!!! I can only hope that they stick to the trade down plan.

Unless there is a new CBA with a new rookie pay scale for this year I dont see many teams wanting to trade up. The Browns are the closest team I can see a real shot at a trade down working with.

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by jbbillfan on Jan 26, 2011 1:39 AM EST reply actions

If it's true......

That the Cowboys are willing to trade up from #9 for Patrick Peterson, they make the best trade partners if Peterson is available at #3.

First we pick up xtra pick(s) trading down to #9 with the Cowboys.

Both the Redskins and Vikings met with Locker after Tuesday mornings practice, this gives the perfect opportunity to play them off against each other for more picks, since we need a QB with both teams sitting with the #10 and #12 pick.

The Bills could say we need a QB and like Locker, but we also need a lot more talent and have Fitz, and could use the extra picks to fill other areas of need. So by playing off those two teams, you might be able to get 1 team (Probably the Redskins) to move up and overpay.

I think this is the best and most realistic trade down scenario to acquire more picks.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 26, 2011 2:38 AM EST reply actions

That would be great to see. Snyder would not want to lose out to the Vikings so he might pony up a handful of picks. I like your thinking on this.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 26, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions

Voted NE won't do it.

My views:
1. Even though NE has traded more than most teams, they have not traded with divisional rivals, and I expect that to continue.
2. Last years’ draft stopped at the end of the first round on day one. This pause allowed teams extra time to evaluate the remainder of the players available. OT Saffold jumped off the screen, for many teams, as a player that would provide extraordinary value as a 2nd Rd pick. As a result it was reported that several teams attempted to acquire the 1st pick in the 2nd Rd but the Rams elected not to trade. We all know now that it was one of the best decisions of last years draft. The 2011 draft is staged the same, and I expect a similar scenario. NE could choose to pick any remaining player, or trade it for a Kings Ransom (some team stupid enough to offer a 2012 1st, etc) with any number of takers.
3. NE is not shy about trading current draft picks for following year draft picks. Some teams see what they consider a “can’t miss” prospect, contact NE and BOOM trade their future 2nd Rd for a 3rd Rd pick NE acquired almost casually in a previous trade. Makes me jealous.
4. I believe it is possible that NE realizes Brady is not going to be around in a few years, attempts to acquire, via trades, 2 additional 2012 1st round picks, and draft Andrew Luck. He would back-up Brady 2-3 years, then start. This scenario horrifies me.

FWIW

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 26, 2011 2:42 AM EST reply actions

4. I believe it is possible that NE realizes Brady is not going to be around in a few years, attempts to acquire, via trades, 2 additional 2012 1st round picks, and draft Andrew Luck. He would back-up Brady 2-3 years, then start. This scenario horrifies me.

I believe that is almost a real possibility, if they did draft Luck next year cashing in their picks, I predict he would be a back up year one, and Brady would be dealt to a team, that just needs a QB to get them over the hump to be a superbowl contender in year 2.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 26, 2011 3:21 AM EST up reply actions

and Brady would be dealt to a team, that just needs a QB to get them over the hump to be a superbowl contender in year 2.

Similar to Favre situation. Darn it Bills be like that Boston area team please.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 26, 2011 6:48 AM EST up reply actions

Im a big fan of trading down

but i highly doubt that New England is our trading partner.

I could see Washington trading it’s1 and 2 for the #3 overall plus our 5th round pick. And i would be happy with that. We could still possibly get Marcell Dareus or take a flyer on Cameron Heyward. Then look at who falls into the second round at QB and either draft him or continue to improve our defense with two picks in the top of the second round.

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I own a Rob Johnson signed jersey, so with that in mind if i like the Bills QB just expect him to fall on a football and break his ribs.

by John Paul King Baron on Jan 26, 2011 3:02 AM EST reply actions

The Trade down is an option I hope chix explores. If they do go for it come draft day, I hope they can trade back to 15-20 and get a late 2nd and 2012 1st, but that would just be too perfect.

by cencalclassics on Jan 26, 2011 6:29 AM EST reply actions

but with the way they’ve drafted in recent years

Why does that matter, they have different people drafting than they had in those past years and I think they did a pretty good job last year other than overestimating how Spiller would adapt to the NFL.

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by UZ on Jan 26, 2011 8:46 AM EST reply actions

down the road last years draft may turn out to be good if spiller, troupe, carington, moats, batton, easley, and wang continue to develope but at this point the combined starts of the 2010 draft class is 7, wang and troupe account for 6 of these and they started because of injurys. so lets not ink this past draft in as good yet.

by Cory Lewis on Jan 26, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions

I have just one question

Where did trading down get these teams do you have the players they selected with their aquired picks compared to the 2 pro bowlers drafted with the 3rd pick?

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by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 26, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions

In 2000 the 12th pick was re-traded and ended up being Shawn Ellis* to NYJ, San Fran’s acquired 16th Julian Peterson* 24th was Ahmad Plummer. 49er’s make multiple trades and end up with 6 picks in the first three rounds in what was a primarily defensive draft for them. 6-10 in 2000, 12-4 2001

97 saw atl take Booker, Hanspard, Santiago, and Crocket with there acquired picks.
7-9 1997 to 14-2 1998

There are defiantly other factors involved but Id say it’s a positive trend

by Cory Lewis on Jan 26, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

I've got one thing to say

TRADE TRADE TRADE, then get Locker in the lower part of the first round (the QB I’m leaning towards this week)

I've got a feeling that Buffalo is going to the Super, er, going play hard and lose in a gutwrenching fashion -

by 78sackdance on Jan 26, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions

Well

We’ve shown we can’t get a pick in the 10-20 range right…so why waste our best chance to change this franchise in years with a stud player?

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by atlantalove on Jan 26, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions

Locker

Jake Locker looks like he is awful at the Senior Bowl. At this point it would not be wise to use a 1st round draft pick on him, or even a 2nd. From perhaps the first pick in the nation last year he has regressed terribly. At practice he looks like he has no clue as to what he doing on the field and his accuracy in passing is w…a….y…. off.

We would be better trying to groom Christian Ponder in the fourth round, as a backup to Fitz and build the lines. Quarterback is the least of our worries.

by Nickuru on Jan 26, 2011 6:32 PM EST reply actions