Buddy Nix On If Bills Need A QB: "Yeah, Probably"
by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:01 AM EST
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PrintBuffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix made his first extensive public comments about the state of his 4-12 football team on Tuesday at the 2011 Senior Bowl. Perhaps the biggest storyline coming out of the interview is the fact that Nix admitted to reporters that he'll need to draft a quarterback prospect this April.
"Yeah, probably," Nix said, referring to the idea of taking a quarterback anywhere, not necessarily in the first round. "To answer the question of third pick, whoever is there that we think is going to be a franchise impact player for us is the guy we'll draft. Where anybody thinks it makes sense [in terms of position], it doesn't matter to me. If it's a guy that we think long-term's an impact guy, no matter what the position, we'll take him."
That doesn't mean that Nix and head coach Chan Gailey are down on the team's current starting quarterback, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
"We certainly like Fitz," Nix said. "[His performance] wasn't more than we expected because I knew Chan would get him to play better. We counted on that and he did. I really like him. I think he's got a lot of qualities you need. We just need to keep putting good players out there."
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So… things don’t sound promising for Brian Brohm.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:04 AM EST reply actions
I think it means just as much for Levi Brown. I’d be surprised if the Bills didn’t draft someone and sign a free agent. They can’t have two developmental QB prospects, can they? They need to draft a QB of the future type in the first two rounds or sign a competant backup to Fitzy.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Meh. I give Brown no consideration because the team cut him in September.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think Brown was brought back simply because of the need for a warm body. He had some degree of familiarity with the offense, so it seemed a logical choice at the time. Picking up some other player completely unfamiliar with the system might have been too much for Gailey to chew on at that point.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Well that’s kind of my point. They obviously don’t like Brohm or Brown.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Both
I am not trying to put words in Brians mouth, but I think the assumption is there is very little chance for Brown to make the roster next year now… At best (which OBD won’t do) he gets assigned to the practice squad. So he is a gonner basically no matter what. Brohm’s future is a little more cloudy… probably has a chance of hangin on as the backup while whomever we draft holds the clipboard/emergency QB role… Or possibly vice-versa.
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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
I like the thought of Brohm succeeding, but I know accept the fact this may never happen. It’s amazing how far he fell.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Correctamundo.
To me, this sounds like he’s looking to invest in the overall quality of the position. If Fitzpatrick goes down, the team is likely in big trouble. It’s time to consider that fact.
However, I don’t know how much stock I put in these comments. Afterall, we saw and heard him say that OL was a priority in last year’s draft, yet wasn’t addressed until the pick of Ed Wang. “Yeah, probably” comments are different than ""was a priority" comments, but I find them to be similar partners here.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
I view Brohm as a solid option at third quarterback.
From what we’ve seen of him, he’s not quite that safety net that you’d like at No. 2.
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Id say the bigger stories in that are:
1) getting bigger at linebacker (thank god, I always hated the idea of small quick players in snowy Buffalo)
2) Wood likely moving to center
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by BillsNYC on Jan 26, 2011 8:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
We’ll cover those. Patience. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
Wood to Center
Was the big take… I don’t necessarily like that move. I think that doesn’t put our best O-line on the field. Anyway, not trying to derail.
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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Not to continue the slide, but it’s a bit of a natural shift back for Wood. I believe they might then look to get a better fit for his old slot.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
We’ll have an article on this later, folks, so save it! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
So if you’re a betting man, who’s their target at QB?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone here should know by now that I’m not a betting man.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I have selective amnesia.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like to me
Nix will take BPA @ the 3rd spot. Which means if AJ Green is there…That’s who it will be.
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Which means if AJ Green is there…That’s who it will be.
This is true only if a) Nix is the BPA enthusiast everyone makes him out to be (I don’t think he is), and b) if Green is the best player on his board.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
And to steer the conversation back in the direction of quarterbacks, if there’s a QB that Nix is sold on at 3, I’m 100% sure he’ll take him.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
This is something I absolutely love if true. I really feel we need a franchise QB more than anything. As well as Fitz played at times, he’s simply not consistent enough to lead a team to the playoffs imo. and more importantly lead them to the Super Bowl. If they feel either Newton, Locker or Gabbert are going to do that, then draft the guy and run with it by all means
by BuffaloBeliever on Jan 26, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
There won't be...
There’s not a single QB that should/will score higher than AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, or even Robert Quinn. And after lookin into Blaine Gabbert, if scouts truly believe he is the best QB prospect in the draft, then a QB should not be taken until the late 1st round at best… nowhere near the Top 5.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 26, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t understand why people feel taking a guy later in the first round makes a pick any better than if said player were chosen in the top ten.
Unless that team is the Patriots, that selection later in the first is still a team’s lone first-round pick. It’s no better or worse in any way other than what the player is paid. The risk and reward to the franchise is the same in my eyes.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
I think it has to do with whatever pick you make, it closes all the other doors of possibility.
If you “reach” for a guy, precluding other guys who were available at that pick, AND the guy you take turns out to underperform and the other guys who were available turn out to be studs, it makes that reach look that much worse.
So, while the reward potential might be the same regardless of where you pick a guy, the risk goes up if you are perceived to have reached.
by oompaloompa on Jan 26, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I've said the same thing.
Its not about where you draft the guy, its about if the guy succeeds. James Hardy was a bust in the 2nd round, and Russell was a bust in the 1st round. However, if either of these guys were drafted 2 rounds later, they are not considered busts anymore. Would Whitner be a “bust” if he was drafted in the 3rd round? Of course not. Good players are good players, and bad players are bad player irregardless of where they were drafted.
No one talks about a player being a reach if they perform. Remember the guy the Jags took at #10 last year? That was the biggest “reach” of the draft last year, while Spiller was considered a “good” pick in the slot he was taken. Look a year later, when everyone is talking about how well the guy from the Jags plays. Simply, if you become good, who cares whether u were drafted 1, 10, or 100.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Brady rule. Not that I think he’s the definition of the word (just too fond of his own play) but Whitner would still be a bust if he was drafted in the third – at least to me. If a guy is drafted to be the starter and fails with no other option to replace him, that’s a busted pick.
That’s a guy who will end up costing his team at least another draft pick to try and rectify the problem.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
In this regard you are correct. I guess I didn’t articulate exactly what I was trying to say. Let me try again…
I hate every year when draft “experts” talk about this guy being a reach, or this guy being a steal, etc. I dont worry about that at all. All I care about is that in a year, two, or three, does this person make this team better. Regardless of if the guy was a 1st round pick and never becomes a superstar, or if the person was an UDFA and does become one. I just feel that everyone (including myself at times) gets too hung up on where a guy should or shouldnt be drafted, and doesnt pay attention to what they did.
This is why I feel the 2010 draft is so hated by people. Nix took players who were not sexy picks in the draft, but I can assure you in three years if a majority of these people pan out, then everyone will be calling Nix a genius. Give it some time, let the plan play out and either succeed or fail before you talk about how bad the FO is.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no no no, I followed you. I tend to expand the conversation a bit at times with my replies. It’s as if these players become movies stars, where if you haven’t heard the name 100 times he just can’t and won’t be a successful player in the NFL.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well, saying that has me understand things a different way. I guess if a defensive stud a team hoped for gets stolen by another team near the top third, then taking a feast or famine QB later on may not be the risk they originally viewed.
Still. I find the draft to be largely unsuccessful for the organization of recent memory.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Refer back to my Blaine Gabbert comment about a month ago
I still stick by it. The only thing that might change my mind is if Locker has a ridiculous Senior Bowl game.
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Locker has a ridiculous Senior Bowl
Wow – you are more fickle than me!
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
I can’t believe that one game would change your opinion over a three or four year career in college.
The only thing that might change my mind is if Locker has a ridiculous Senior Bowl game.
Considering that he will only play one third of the game.
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It answers some questions
Most of Locker’s faults can be traced to a bad supporting cast, potentially. If he plays well, then questions about accuracy, etc., can be traced to that supporting cast, and specfically dropped passes.
If he plays the same, then the issues are truly issues.
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Wasn’t the same thing said about Trent Edwards? Stanford had horrible records under him, and Walsh said it was a matter of poor OL play, etc.
Exactly. And with Der Jaeger’s criteria, we’d have a chance at finding out whether Locker is more Trent Edwards (who went 10-20 at Stanford) or more Jay Cutler (who went 11-35 at Vanderbilt).
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that. But I wasn’t talking from an attitude perspective. I certainly don’t think Locker and Cutler are the same guy. Just trying to illustrate that a guy can have a terrible record as a QB in college and go on to be successful (at least above average) in the NFL.
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I know. I just don’t have anything good to add about him. I was stuck in a rut there but needed to exercise the demon. I guess he’s having success, but Cutler as a Buffalo Bill does not fit him well. He needs that defense to pad his W column.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's apples and oranges
Plus, I think Edwards could’ve been a productive QB had he had, say, a competent OC from the start.
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I can’t help but joke here…
This is true only if a) Nix is the BPA enthusiast everyone makes him out to be (I don’t think he is)
But I too don’t think he’s a BPA guy. How else can you explain the Spiller pick? (Ba-dum-bum!)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
I agree,
he is looking for impactful players, several of the top 5 players would make a long term impact to our team. The one he thinks will make the most impact is the one that will be wearing a Bills uniform next year.
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I know people love Buddy around here (as evidenced by his great polling numbers), but now know to disregard many of his public statements.
Let’s not forget what he said last off-season prior to the draft:
“We felt like we needed to upgrade our offensive line,” Nix said of the assessment after he was hired. “We started out looking for that. That was our main emphasis going into the draft.”
I am not sure that I have found any of Nix’s quotes insightful or necessarily candid.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 8:37 AM EST reply actions
Let’s not forget what he said last off-season prior to the draft:
Nope. Kind of hard for him to speak in the past tense for something that hadn’t happened yet. He made those comments in September. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
What I meant to say was referring to the draft that his intent was to address the O-line… Simply put he did not.
Also I am slightly irritated by his comments, I feel he does not take responsibiltiy for the lack of talent on this football team. When discussing the shalacking that was put on us at the end of the season, it would have been refreshing for him to say, “you know, our team lacks talent and that is my responsibility, I have to do MY job better.” Don’t go into specifics about depth, turnovers, etc. It was clear we were not a talented enough football team to be competitive last year.
Then he goes on to say we WERE competitive. Did he watch the season (see the last 2 games)?!?!?! Losing is still losing Buddy! You play to WIN the games… Horeshoes only count in… Just show us the BABY!
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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
It was clear we were not a talented enough football team to be competitive last year.
Yet they competed with the AFC Champs.
The Bills lost those games so badly because of turnovers, right? He also said they need to upgrade at QB which means they need more talent there since those guys caused most of the turnovers. Just because he didn’t say it how you wanted doesn’t mean he didn’t say it.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
Really!?!?!
Turnovers = bad team = losing team
He didn’t exactly say they need to upgrade at QB, he did say they like Fitz.
Playing one team CLOSE doesn’t make or break a season, it is amazing how low our standards have become. At least Jauron could argue he was CLOSE to .500, heck he would have made the playoffs in the west!
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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
It is...
Also amazing how a fan that knows exactly what. is wrong with the football team still needs the GM to spell it out to him in an interview. Get off it already.
by Buffalo Mo on Jan 26, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will when Nix starts addressing the problems on our football team (Right Tackle, general lack of talent, etc.)
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
He’s had one offseason to overhaul a team that was terrible. There is not one player on this team that is probably in the top 50 “fantasy players.” Now, Im not stupid enough to think that all great players have a fantasy impact (DL, OL, etc.) but come on what did you expect in one year? He brought in two DL to make the switch to the 34 (which everyone wanted so desperately last year), and he drafted, by all accounts prior to the draft, an elite playmaking RB. Then he found the future deep threat that got hurt, and LB that was playing better than Moats (who everyone seems to love) before he got hurt.
Would people have been happy if Nix took a RT at #9, because he was BPA at an area of need? Nope, everyone would be screaming about why this team cant take BPA irregardless of position.
As you said, this team has a general lack of talent, at literally every single position on the field (except maybe center, kicker, and long snapper). So who cares who we draft? Chances are that person is better than who is on this team, and will upgrade this team anyway.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
No no no…
See Nix didn’t find a way to get 30 draft picks AND get all the top FA talent, therefore the current state of the roster is entirely his fault. Just like Spiller is a bust after his first season.
In some instances it really looks like the dislike of the Nix hiring (or Spiller pick) colors how people view the job he’s doing. Had we hired Cowher and had a similar draft/season I can’t help but wonder if some of the Nix critics would be all over him as well.
He’s had one offseason to overhaul a team that was terrible.
For whatever reason you want to attribute it to, this team was worse (4-12) in 2011 than in 2010 (7-9)
There is not one player on this team that is probably in the top 50 "fantasy players."
Relevance?
by all accounts prior to the draft, an elite playmaking RB.
Who rode the pine for most of this past season.
Moats (who everyone seems to love)
Only player who contributed from his draft class (significnatly anyway)
Would people have been happy if Nix took a RT at #9
Yes – Baluga
So who cares who we draft?
Strangely enough, I actually do.
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"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
You nit pick my post, and take quotes out of context. For example, my point of “who cares who we draft” wasn’t that I dont care if we draft a bunch of scrubs, the point was that this team is so bad, that anyone that was drafted likely would be upgrading a position.
This isn’t a single year rebuild. I’m sorry if thats what you want, but this team does not have the owner nor the revenue to be the NYJ and buy up as many free agents as possible. We have to build through the draft, and I think this was a very solid draft. Sure, there wasnt a lot of outstanding performers, but Troup, Carrington, Easley, Batten, and Moats all seem primed to make an impact in a year or two, when this team is ready to compete. I’m fine with taking players that can be great players in a few years and not just average players now.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
No, no, Eric. You see, you can’t wait two or three years for a rebuild to be complete. It must happen now. Because our record got worse means that obviously our team got worse (ignoring the switch to 34, the harder schedule, the fact that we had Edwards and Brohm starting three games, no consistency at right tackle, etc.).
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I'll say this:
I’m embarrassed I have Trent Edwards’ autograph on a mini throwback helmet.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think the team necessarily got worse. If Im correct (and I am not doing a ton of research on this) Buffalo played 7 playoff teams in 2009, and 10 in 2010. Not that this is 100% true, but lets say for argument sake we played 3 teams this year that did not make the playoffs, and we won those three games. That would make us…7-9. Now toss in the Pitt and Baltimore games we should have won, and we are 9-7 this year.
Clearly this didnt happen, and its always a “what if” game, but I dont think you can look only at the schedule and say this team got worse.
Also, you say the rebuild has to happen now. What did you expect? Miami was an aberration when they made the meteoric rise, but I’d like you to show me a team that didnt make the playoffs for even 5 years, had no talent, got a new coaching staff, and then just magically became a powerhouse playoff team in 1 year. Quite simply, it doesnt and wasnt going to happen. For better or worse this is at least a 3 year rebuild. The FO, talent, and coaching was all terrible. We are 100% in a Detroit situation right now where there just are way to many holes to fill in one off season.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
That was meant to be sarcasm.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Haha, sorry. The joys of reading and not hearing what people say. I think that sarcastic view is shared by a lot of people though. I think there is a portion of this fan base who expects miracles to be worked, and have hatred toward the current FO because they did not make this team a playoff team in one offseason.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, and I think it’s ridiculous. I know we’ve suffered for a decade, but these things take time. As long as we’re handing the reigns over to someone else, we had better give them the time they need to turn it around.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
but Troup, Carrington, Easley, Batten, and Moats all seem primed to make an impact in a year or two, when this team is ready to compete
Really – based on what?
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Based On What?
More experience.
And Buffalo selects "God only knows" in rd. 1 pick 3. Bank on it!
by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, exactly. I didnt say I am a fortune teller and they were going to magically be better, but all showed flashes of potential (unlike Mr. Maybin, for example) in their limited time on this team. Batten seemed to be a more athletic and stronger player than Moats, and Moats had a strong ending to his year (for a small school DE converting to LB). Easley was VERY impressive before he got hurt, consistently beating DB’s down the field. Troup and Carrington didnt have outstanding years, but also showed me improvement and showed me that they can at least be roll players.
Again, these arnt the sexy picks, but this team isnt going to compete for another year or two, so if it means taking a more developmental pick that will be better in years 2 and 3, vs. taking a player who is good now but maxed their potential in college, I’ll take the higher upside. I look at Pitt (which I think Whaley’s influence is emulating here) where they take smaller school project players and give them a few years to sit on the bench and develop, and when one player gets too expensive to keep, the next guy steps up to the plate. We dont have the depth yet, but that has to be how this team is competitive. Free agents dont want to come here, and the owner is not going to go bananas spending money in free agency, so this is the only way to be competitive for a long time.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
For whatever reason you want to attribute it to, this team was worse (4-12) in 2011 than in 2010 (7-9)
Actually, we were 6-10 last year. I personally attribute that to playing better competition and the defensive scheme change.
In 2009-10, 8/16 games were played against teams with winning records. 4 of the 6 teams in those 8 games ended up in the playoffs. Average margin of loss was 14.1 points.
In 2010-11, 9/16 games were played against teams with winning records. All 7 of the 7 teams in those 9 games ended up in the playoffs. Average margin of loss was 14.3 points.
I’m certainly not saying you should be more or less optimistic from those numbers, just that there are valid reasons that a team would have a worse record despite having (relatively) little turnover at the top of the roster.
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The thing is, two players other than Fitzy accounted for a much of the fumbling – Jackson and Spiller. Spiller was picked to improve the RB situation, and even through his fumbles Jackson was one of the most dependable players on offense.
It’s not clear-cut that those who contributed to the turnovers need to be removed. I don’t see how they’ll look to start over at RB, even though it was a position lacking in security during losses.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Playing one team CLOSE doesn’t make or break a season, it is amazing how low our standards have become.
Dude, you don’t have to be a jerk about it. You said the Bills weren’t “competitive”. I showed you they were. I am right, you are wrong. Deal with it.
Turnovers = bad team = losing team
Exactly. That was my point. He said they needed to improve their roster without saying “hey we need to improve our roster”.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t realize turnovers were Nix’s fault…
I really thought that was a coaching/player responsibility to sort out.
Well they are the player’s fault but he gets the players.
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 26, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I beleive us (as Bills fans) have accepted being bad and it severly irritates me when our GM seems to use the fact that we were “competitive” as an accomplishment. You know what is an accomplishment? Winning a game!
We have a little league mentality right now. Gosh darnit, we played a good game today and we were good sports, let’s everyone get some ice cream. I am tired of losing and am officially taking a stand against my perceived apathetic approach by OBD. If Nix would simply call it like it is, I would appreciate it. Don’t acknowledge that O-line is a major concern than not address it, etc. His personnel moves have been amazingly underwhelming and to try to use where some scruby FA’s he found draft position to indicate value is just the icing on the cake.
There’s my rant, sorry if you thought it was directed at you (Matt). Note that I said “our” standards not “your” standards, for what it is worth.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, because Nix stated after the draft that they wanted to address the O-Line but couldn’t find good value (Bulaga would have been a gross reach at 9 based on his play this season) doesn’t mean he didn’t address it.
How many players did they rotate into and out of the offensive line? You may point out they were street FA’s but they were over turning the roster to find players and upgrades to the offensive line.
Your posts come off personally offended that Nix didn’t find a way to do some insane roster flipping after one season. And your desire for Nix to give it to us ‘straight’ isn’t a reality.
Should Nix toss Fitz under the bus? “Yeah he’s a passable QB but no way in *&^$ should we consider him a long term starter” He cannot do that. It’d be like your boss walking into a meeting, pointing at you and saying “Jason sucks, I’m replacing him next week” and then expecting you to go about your daily job.
I appreciate the passion but your posts just seem to be overly angry at Nix. Don’t like ten years of losing? Neither do any of us. Mad at the Bills? Yeah you should be… mad at the guy who just took over the GM position…? Isn’t it a bit premature for that?
YES!
You said it perfectly. There is so much hatred toward the culture that has been developed around this team that no one will give the guy a chance to sink or swim before you push his head underwater and make sure he cant come up.
I understand it. Heck, i’m only 23, so my earliest real memory of the Bills was the home-run throwback. It sucks, constantly hearing people ham up the Jets and Giants at school, but I am not blaming Nix, nor calling him a failure until he proves to me that his is one. I think he deserves every chance to succeed, and I really dont think you can tell me that in one off season he is a complete failure, nor a success.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think many people are taking issue with the fact that the new regime selected a player they said would be able to contribute (seemingly in spades) from the start, while passing up areas of other talent and which suited needs for the team.
That pick went on to average 7 carries a game (IIRC). That pick has not transitioned well, and it was supposed to be a pick that didn’t need the maturation process of a QB, DE, or WR.
It’s a tough card to draw, but they can’t fold now. Nearly all of us knew there was a mess at QB and a tough spot on the OL. Not likely they were going to find someone blue-chip, but I think many fans were annoyed they wasted no time selecting Spiller, like he was their pick all along, regardless of the other players available.
Well, that’s me at least. I don’t hate Spiller and he deserves more time to adapt, it’s just a shame that as a RB, he needs that time. I’d be happier if this sentiment were used to describe a QB they drafted early last year. (Yes, I know what everyone thinks about all the available QBs.)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well put. I want to love Spiller actually, and I sure would have like to see someone with his talent get more touches on such a bad football team.
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jan 26, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. The pick didnt turn out to be instant impact, when we were lead to believe that was the entire reason to take him.
Regardless, I refuse to call this regime a poor one until this team is still uncompetitive in 3 years time. I just really think the Bills are so devoid to talent and depth it will take that long to develop a talented roster.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
He did not say we were competitive in every game.
He was making a general (season) observation. We won 4 games, were within one score on 5 games, went to OT in 3 games, were within 10 points on 2 high scoring games, and yes were handed our hinds in 5 games. Add it all up and yes we were competitive in 11 out of 16 games in a year that had us with the second hardest schedule in the leauge. The 5 games we were not in were against GB, Jets,Vik, NE, and the Jets again. 4 of the 5 were against top notch teams. We all know we are not in that league yet, but that does not mean were not competitive. We played 4 playoff teams to within one score. For a young inconsistent mistake prone rebuilding team that is not bad.
It is really time to put the “we started out looking for that. That was our main emphesis going into the draft.” quote behind us. I wish I had a dollar for every time I focused on ,and intended to fix something in my place of work(farm), and at the end of the day found that it did not get done. He was offering you some of that candid stuff. He simply said that was the place they looked first because it was a need. The players that they thought could have made a difference at that position were not there when their pick came up. So they did not pull the trigger. They moved on maybe we should too.
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
We were within one score of 6 games. 8 points to the Pats is one score.
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you are right I missed that.
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
And by the way, I agree with everything else you said completely. We really need to accept the fact that in a team where every position is broken, it couldn’t have all gotten fixed in one off season.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
my question to you… Say we draft a QB in the second/third (I would hate to draft one at third overall) and we have a horrific year and land the 1st overall. Mr. Luck will be on the board… so would we let him slide or draft.
I am not a negative person but I am thinking realistically, rebuilding takes more than two years.
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1. I’ll be shocked if the Bills have the #1 pick next year.
2. If they do, they absolutely would take Luck. If you take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round you’re buying a lottery ticket that they develop into a top QB. And if they show anything you can trade they pretty easy.
Agree with your second point. I’m not ready to dismiss the possibility of them finishing worse than this year, next year.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
No mention of
the defensive line as a need, or cornerback really for that matter. The one defensive position Buddy sounded like he was really targeting this offseason is bigger linebackers. Now of course I’m not assuming they will not get a D-lineman or a CB just because he didn’t mention it, but I thought it was interesting that he credited poor run defense to small linebackers.
Buddy on stopping the run…
“We’ve gotta do that, and some of it is to get bigger and stronger. We had 13 guys on IR. I think seven of ‘em were linebackers. … We had gotten small around there - 225 and 230-pound linebackers — and it’s hard to stop the run with that. We gotta get bigger.”
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 26, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
That's because
he, like I myself, seen our weakness and poor run D due to bad OLB play not so much the D Line. Kyle Williams had a Pro Bowl year, Dwan Edwards prior to being injured was 2nd to only Kyle Williams for tackles by a D-Lineman in the entire league. Dwan was playing well. Stroud was certainly a weakness but the real problem was after our line either held their ground or forced cutbacks there were no OLB’s to stop players from getting to the edge or filling gaps. The linebacking core was the weakness not the D-Line, also don’t forget we took a DT and DE with our 2nd and 3rd round picks last year and I highly doubt Nix is giving up on them already.
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by panekattack on Jan 26, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
This screams to me that if AJ Green is on the board that he will be a Buffalo Bill.
And I am ok with that, talent is talent and I think he can provide immediate impact and can be a franchise guy.
I think A.J. Green is going to Carolina.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I kind of feel this way too
Give Clausen a real offensive weapon. If he does good then they know they have something in him, if he does bad then they draft Andrew Luck. Only thing is they seem to really miss Kris Jenkins and Julius Peppers so Fairley and Bowers could be in the mix also especially with a defensive minded coach like Rivera.
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by panekattack on Jan 26, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
killowatt i will give u the pink slip to my truck if we draft aj green
Aj green will NOT be drafted by the bills. I guarantee it…
Im over pop corn..... But i still like me a little Spiller Thriller!!!!!!!!!!
by OC-BILLS-FAN on Jan 26, 2011 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What kind of truck are we talking here?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
well u can pick
My 69 chevy C10 lowrider with a rebuilt 350 engine oooorrrrrr my 2005 toyota tundra. White with an acess cab. And bf goodrich muds, and a 4 inch lift in the front with a 2 inch in the back. Full sound system as well. Because I guarantee we will not pick aj green.
Im over pop corn..... But i still like me a little Spiller Thriller!!!!!!!!!!
by OC-BILLS-FAN on Jan 26, 2011 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, I know i’d go for the c10, though i’d have to un-lowride it. =)
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
what why??!! :)
its a classic. its flat black with a drop on it. its got white walls with red rims. interior is the same. with a nice big 12inch sub right next to my knee in the middle. they look stupid at a regular stance and u def dont wanna lift. therfore lowridin it was the only logical thing to do.. just like taking peterson… ooorrr marcell… just saying
Im over pop corn..... But i still like me a little Spiller Thriller!!!!!!!!!!
by OC-BILLS-FAN on Jan 26, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, in that case i’d be good. I don’t care for the low-rider look if it’s all bling.
Anyway. Back on task. =)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wow thats pretty ballsy
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
My main takeaway
When Nix said that a team rarely gets to pick at #3 and that he’d be looking for a “Franchise Impact Player”, I think he was dead serious and the odds of him trading down are very slim. He also said that he doesn’t want to be in that position again so this is probably the only opportunity he gets at a top 3 guy. Then he said that he doesn’t care where people slot the guy and if he feels the guys will be a “Franchise Impact Player” down the road that he’ll pull the trigger…
Crap, I get the feeling that Cam Newton just became more of a possibility. I think his comments about getting bigger at the Linebacking position would indicate that both Clayborn & Quinn are definitely still in the picture.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
I may be one of a handful here, but i’d be VERY excited if they drafted Cam Newton. His potential is amazing.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
His reported character issues give me pause. Also, I want the first pick to be defensive, but that’s because none of the QBs this year really blow me away in terms of potential. That being said, if we did draft him #3, I would probably get more excited as the year approached. And the idea of his sitting behind Fitz for a year or two alleviates some of the character issue fear.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I forgot that
with his comments about stopping the run Dareus is also very much in the mix. Getting better up-front will help everyone. Although he also seemed to indicate that he’ll be focusing on 3-4 guys, which might excluse Dareus from consideration. Mind you, I still think that he’d be a natural fit at DE, perfect replacement for Marcus who IMO is way past his prime and somewhat ineffective as a 5 technique DE. I think Dareus would be a huge upgrade over Stroud.
Dareus – Williams – Edwards /Carrington would look pretty good to me!
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
QB draft
I don’t see us drafting a QB at number 3, just not that quality in this year’s draft. Most mock drafts have us getting either Green or Darius but I would argue that if we are looking at an impact WR, I like Julio Jones better than Green. Physically they are pretty close but Jones blocks better and is tough. One of his best games of his college career was with a broken hand and you know guys get injured. Who knows, maybe they draft McElroy at QB in the 4th or 5th round and those two know each other pretty well.
My maint takeaway
Is that I fully expect a QB to be selected with one of our first 3 picks. If they think a franchise QB is there, then he will be the pick at #3. If not, then I have to imagine they’ll have a guy (or two) that they really like in the 2nd or 3rd rounds that they’ll grab as a developmental guy. I still think we will end up taking Gabbert or Newton with our third pick. I really think they’ll both be big gambles, but I also really hope that one of them grades out that high so that Nix will take them. I like both of them better than I did Sanchez when he came out.
So Buddy Nix is basically telling us once again that there is a direction they want to go and if/when it doesn’t come to fruition, he’ll take best on the board(or what he deems best)! That could be a great thing with the 3rd pick…it could be disaster!
My question to everyone would be this….would you rather see on draft day the bills select the 1. top or near top player at a position we need (Lynch, Mckelvin, Maybin)…2.someone who had flashes of brilliance at one time or another but are down on the charts(Whitner, Evans, McCargo, Mcgahee)….3. very best player there period (Spiller)
I am sick of wasted picks and honestly find myself leading towards number 1!
Answer #3
We are missing one thing. Last year Gailey slipped when he was quoted as saying he wanted a scat back, water bug type of player. While we were all on the QB carousel and focused on Buddy’s quotes and philosophies, it was Gailey who tipped the biggest clue. We are way ahead of ourselves at this point. Still putting Chix’s comments together the answer would be #3.
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You have to wonder now...
if the team would have made every play possible to move up and select Luck away from Carolina.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 26, 2011 10:19 AM EST reply actions
Encouraging
This is the most encouraging admission from One Bills Drive since Nix took over. I like Ryan Fitzpatrick as a fan, but he’s not good enough to compete for championships. Buffalo needs to get the guy they truly believe has a chance to win a Super Bowl no matter where the “experts” slot the guy. Whether that’s Gabbert or Newton at 3 (not my cup of tea, but I’d defer to the team and look on with genuine interest) or someone in day 2, Buffalo needs to identify someone and start grooming him. I’m tired of hearing about QB classes for the year after.
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the thing that saddens me is
at this time last year Trent Edwards was getting much more love than Ryan Fitzpatrick and Ryan has out played him by far. Yet Ryan is still talked about in the past tense constantly.
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I think
We are all overthinking things. All you can do is listen and take Nix for his word. He said he didn’t like one year wonders, gailey has also said this, and even said it in his press conference at the senior bowl over on Buffalobills.com. He mentioned the “one year wonder” so I think any way you slice it, Cam Newton isn’t the pick at 3. You look at someone who has been a consistent performer, and a franchise impact player there really are only 3 players that fit this description…AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, and Marcell Dareus. Bowers has alot of bad tape and underachieved, I doubt they grade Gabbert higher than any of the previously listed 3. So then next level you look at position, both CB and Safety need upgrading, and Peterson could help in both of those areas. D-line is a need, but the draft is stocked with good talent there, so there ya go…Peterson is the pick.
by BMWdrummerman777 on Jan 26, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions
rec'd!
Totally agree one hundred percent. I say stuff all the time without really thinking, and then to have hundreds of people examine and pick apart what I said to try and have some idea of who were gonna draft 3 months from now is…. Interesting. Hahahahahah and I as well think peterson is the pick if denver passes. And If not peterson then marcell.
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by OC-BILLS-FAN on Jan 26, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well this shouldnt be a suprise......
considering Ralph said as much earlier…………there’s no way IMO the Bills dont address the QB position this draft. Something in my gut tells me that Ralph will still be calling shots, even though we’d all like to believe Buddy is.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 26, 2011 12:30 PM EST reply actions
I know all about that gut feeling.:)
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This falls in line with what I've thought all along.
I still think it’s Gabbert at 3.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I would be fine with Gabbert
But I have a funny thing we might get a surprise, perhaps like Ryan Mallet in round 2…I’m just sayin. He lit up the SEC. I know he has mobility issues, and footwork issues and perhaps even character issues, but then again ur lookin at a great talent. Even with those issues you don’t light up the SEC in a pro-style offense without some natural talent. I don’t think Gailey prefers mobile QB’s, I think thats just what he’s had to work with. Thigpen and Stewart weren’t his choices, they were just given to him. If Mallet is there in round 2, I think Buffalo makes a play for him…mark it.
by BMWdrummerman777 on Jan 26, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions
Taking a QB... My guess is 4th or later rounds again.
If Ponder, Dalton, McElroy are there, then I see it. Locker if he slides to the 2nd round. I don’t think they will risk an impact type of player at #3 in another position for a QB unless they trade down in the first round. Too many options at #3 when there are better than average prospects in the 4th round or later. They are looking for back-up QB’s to groom, not start for a year or more!!!
To me this is a no brainer. If it was true, they tried last year to move back up in the 1st round to get Tebow… when that did not occur they waited until the 7th to take Brown! No one expected Levi Brown or them waiting so long to take a QB to groom. However, it doesn’t mean they couldn’t take one earlier than the 4th only if they have such a high grade on the guy and he falls to them compared to someone later in the draft like McElroy, Dalton, Ponder, Kapernick, Devlin, etc.
Except two things
Grooming highly drafted QB’s works: Rodgers and Rivers. So picking a QB @ 3 to groom him behind Fitzpatrick makes sense.
Buffalo couldn’t get Tebow because they weren’t willing to trade up high enough. But, being @ 3, and having Gabbert as value for the pick, what’s stopping them from just making the pick?
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
higher graded players on their board...
by BMWdrummerman777 on Jan 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Team bypass higher rated players all the time for franchise QB's
So BPA kind of goes out the window when talking about QB’s.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I agree. Even if its BPA all the way, most of the time its BPA all the way, unless you dont have a franchise QB, then you do everything to get one.
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Question Is..
is there really a franchise QB available in this draft that they think is a sure thing? Or will it be the case that the guy they pick is a possible player but not worth passing on a sure fire player at another position. I’m not sold on the fact they think the next Kelly or Marino is in this class.
Go big or go home.
No one thought that Brady was the next Kelly or Marino either. Especially in today’s pass happy, cerebral QB league, I dont think there is anything more than a 50/50 shot of getting a franchise QB, Andrew Luck included. With that said, you have to take a chance, and history shows us that the higher you draft a QB, the better chance that player has at being a franchise QB. I really think Gabbert could be that guy for us, but there is also some intriguing prospects who could be available in the 2nd/3rd round (Stanzi, Locker, Kaepernick, Ponder).
by Eric Murawski on Jan 26, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
It's not just the higher you draft a QB.......
Because there have obiviously been number 1 overall QB’s to flop.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
There is no thing as a sure thing.............
in the draft.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
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