Bizzaro Joe P.'s Mock Draft

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 6:42 PM EST

Since the Senior Bowl has passed, I figured it was time to get a mock together. Round one - QB, Round two - OT...Right? Nope....and nobody was more surprised than me. Here is what I would do if I was the GM of the Bills.

1. (3) Patrick Peterson – CB – I didn’t take a QB???? Shocking I know….. I want to take a QB here so bad it hurts, but Locker did not look good in the Sr. Bowl and without seeing more of Gabbert, I just can't put him here. I can’t shake the feeling that he is this year’s Locker. Maybe Gabbert and/or Locker will end up being great NFL QBs, but can I really afford to find out? I may have already missed with Spiller. You can’t afford to repeatedly miss on your #1 pick, or you end up out of a job…just ask Jauron. Peterson is considered a top 3 pick and the best CB in this draft. He is a winner that has consistently produced as a CB and on special teams. From

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632296

"Peterson played in 39 games, starting 30 times. He recorded 135 tackles, 22 pass breakups and seven interceptions on defense. As a return specialist, he finished with 418 punt returns yards and two touchdowns to go with 932 kickoff return yards. Peterson scored touchdowns three different ways during his career with the Tigers - punt returns (2), interception return, and return of a blocked field goal.

Intangibles: Confident, almost cocky demeanor on the field. Possesses the short memory of all great cornerbacks. Extremely competitive. Seems to relish the battles against top receivers in man coverage. Campaigned to be used on special teams and even offense while at LSU due to his natural playmaking skills. Good bloodlines. Cousins of NFL cornerback Bryant McFadden and wide receivers Santana and Sinorice Moss. Characterized as "freak" athlete. "

Peterson is a shutdown CB that can also tackle. I can’t find any character issues. Shutdown CBs can play in any system, so defensive scheme is not an issue. Peterson is the BPA and fills a need at CB, return specialist, and maybe even at S if need be.

2. (34) ILB - Martez Wilson Height: 6-4 Weight: 250 – The Bills need a thumper at ILB, and Wilson is the highest rated ILB in this year’s draft. From

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272548

“Wilson lead the team in tackles this season (2010) with 112…….2009 - Recorded nine tackles in the season opener against Missouri … Suffered a herniated disc in his neck, which forced him to miss the remainder of the 2009 season …2008 - Ranked 14th in the Big Ten in tackles per game with 6.6 … Ranked fifth in the Big Ten in fumbles recovered with two …2007 - Played in all 13 games at linebacker … Posted three solo tackles in the Rose Bowl against USC.”

Not only does Wilson upgrade our LB core, but he will allow Poz to do what he does best, stay clean, run to the ball, and make plays. And again, it kills me not to take the best OT here…..there are so many freaking holes on this team it makes me sick. The Bills have made a point of picking up O-lineman from other teams’ practice squads. We can’t fill all of the holes we have at once. If we are lucky, we will pick up a RT via free agency. If not, look for Chan to try polishing more practice squad turds.

3. (68) QB - Collin Kaepernick Height: 6-5 Weight: 225 or Ricky Stanzi Height: 6-4 Weight: 221– And so it has come down to this….taking another developmental QB. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in myself, but I can’t seem to justify taking one of the higher rated QBs like Gabbert, Locker, or Mallett, who I assume will all be gone by the time we pick in the second round. Assuming they are, I don't believe their is enough of a difference between a QB like Ponder and a QB like Kaepernick that an extra year of development won't fix. I actually liked Stanzi better as a passer. Stanzi was more poised in the pocket and had better accuracy. But there was no denying Kaepernick has better physical tools. Plus, he really seems to have the “it” factor. Some of the notes I took while watching Kaepernick in the Sr. Bowl:

First pass was picked, but not his fault. Has good pocket awareness and moves well in the pocket. He does look down field initially, but takes off running to soon. Has experience running the Pistol (Chan licks his chops). Big arm and really spins the ball. Raw as hell as a under center pocket type QB. Two year project. Very well spoken in his sideline interview. Confident but not arrogant. Saw him on the sidelines encouraging teammates.

Kaepernick's stock is on the rise, so if the Bills really want him they might have to take him in the second or settle for Stanzi here.

4. (99) DT - Jerrell Powe Height: 6-2 Weight: 320 – The cornerstone of the 3-4 is a true NT….that mountain of humanity that makes it next to impossible to run it straight up the gut. If you think Kyle Williams was good before, just wait until we put him next to this guy. From

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632316

“2010 ALL-SEC FOOTBALL SECOND TEAM (COACHES): DL Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss, has been selected All-SEC Football Second Team for the 2010 college football season as selected by the SEC head football coaches. The senior defensive tackle earned second team honors for the second straight year, after garnering the same distinction in 2009 from the Associated Press. A native of Waynesboro, Miss., Powe was among the candidates for the Rotary Lombardi Award, Outland Trophy and Bronko Nagurski Trophy and was voted a Team Captain by his teammates. Despite often facing double teams, Powe amassed 27 total tackles, 8.5 TFLs and 2.5 sacks this season, including 1.5 sacks at No. 8 Alabama. Powe missed only one game in his three seasons with the Red and Blue and started 22 of 25 games the past two years.”

4. (121) OT - Marcus Gilbert Height: 6-6 Weight: 329 – I was hoping to take James Brewer here, but the Sr. Bowl seems to have boosted his stock as well. Gilbert might actually be as good, and certainly isn't this years version of Ed Wang. Gilbert played both RT and LT for the Gators, but I think he projects well as a RT in the NFL. The short version….this guy is a bulldozer with good feet. From

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1114672

“Pass blocking: Solid pass protector with a quick set, fluid lateral movement and willingness to go out and punch his man off the snap instead of waiting for the rush to come to him.

Run blocking: Effective size and mobility to be an extremely effective positional blocker at the next level. Anchors against strong defensive ends well, resets his hands to sustain the block. Moves his feet to wall off backside run support and sustain until the play is away. Also has quick feet to the second level; does more than get in the way, will extend his arms to fully negate linebacker (raises them off the ground at times). Good drive-blocker, churns forward after engaging and will usher his man downfield for seven to 10 yards.

Pulling/trapping: Effective trapping inside and getting out in front of plays run to side because of his quick feet. Moves around the guard or tight end well for his size, is flexible enough to turn the corner and find a target.

Initial Quickness: Gets off the snap very well for his size, gets into his opponent if man-up on the outside or tries to get to the linebackers in a hurry. Strong punch and arm extension to pass protect or lock up his man on run plays. Quick kick-slide to mirror most strong-side ends, though not elite in this area; his length allows him to compensate against quicker college defensive ends.

Intangibles: Reliable, durable player who consistently gives good effort. One of the team's senior leaders for 2010. Mature, well-liked player with no known character issues. Studies his playbook and constantly looks to improve. Father is a retired Secret Service agent. “

5. TE - Andre Smith Height: 6-4 Weight: 272 - Smith is solid in the running game as a blocking TE which is good because… let’s face it….our OTs are going to need the help. The good news is he is improving as a pass catcher and plays special teams too. From:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117478

“Moves into the top spot at tight end after being a key member of the rotation the past three seasons … Is coming off an exceptional spring … Coaches think he can be as good as he wants to be … The Hokies' only experienced player at the position … May have to be an every-down guy … Was a big asset to the Hokies' running game last season with his blocking … Led the tight ends with 21 knockdown blocks … Also plays a major role on special teams, starting on four different units … Is vastly improved in the passing game … Provides a big target with excellent hands … A key player for the Hokies in 2010.”

6. FB - Henry Hynoski Height: 6-2 Weight: 260 lbs – Is it possible that Coach Wannstedt might give Chan the 411 on this guy? From

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69129&draftyear=2011&genpos=FB

“Hynoski was Pitts starting fullback each of the past two years. This past season he rushed 12 times for 33 yards and caught 25 passes for 174 yards and one touchdown…..FB Henry Hynoski is always overlooked when it comes to the Panthers' offense, but he has been a crucial part of it. Used mostly to block for RBs Dion Lewis and Ray Graham, Hynoski can get the tough yards inside as a change-of-pace runner and by catching an occasional pass. He has 18 receptions for a 7.2-yard average and one touchdown. Hynoski is coming back from a concussion, and the Panthers really need him to make the ground game go.”

7. NT - Chris Neild – Height: 6-2 Weight: 313 – Developmental NT with good character and leadership skills. From

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=75263&draftyear=2011&genpos=DT

“NG Chris Neild, the heart and soul of the defense, was slowed in the final game by a hamstring injury. He expected to play but did not get many snaps as he could not get it loose. He is expected back by bowl time…..Chris Neild, the senior out of Stroudsburg, Pa., has been impressing NFL scouts as he has anchored the middle of a WVU defensive line that has played well all season. Despite a position that doesn't lead itself to sacks, Neild has two already this season. Against LSU he had six tackles, second to S Robert Sands' nine.”

I can see it now….fourth and goal on the one…bring in “Heavy Jumbo” ….Williams – Neild – Powe – Troup. Try running against that!

So there it is......not really the mock I expected either.....life is funny that way ;-)

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decent mock I guess… but gailey’s already said he’s committed to Williams at NT, so drafting 2 more doesn’t make sense (especially when we have Troup and Kellen Heard (6-6, 355!!) on the roster already)

drafting a run blocking FB also won’t happen. The organization is committed to McIntyre who’s one of the best run blocking FB’s in the league, has great character, and is our best special teamer.

by Nepenthe88 on Jan 30, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions

Williams a very good DT, but he is not a 3-4 NT who can stuff the run

The Defense needs to get bigger in the middle. I am not as high on McIntyre as you are. If nothing else, he could use a little competition.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions

I think if Troup comes along, we see Williams got to DE in our base 3-4 and see Stroud cut this offseason

Having another big body in the middle never hurts since we will need to rotate them quite a bit if teams keep the ball on us like they did this year.

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by WABillsfan on Jan 30, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions

they are committed to keeping williams on the field, not necessarily at NT. as we transform more towards a 30 front it would be very wise to have more than 1 0tech capable guy (troupe) on the roster for depth and versatility

by boomsauce on Jan 30, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions

dont like peterson

Doesn’t matter how good the secondary and pass rush is if you can’t stop the run you aren’t winning any games. Case closed.

by erie of bills on Jan 30, 2011 7:04 PM EST reply actions

perhaps you noticed the 2 NTs and big ILB?

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions

The ilb is a start but those nt`s would never see the field over williams and troup. And yes williams is stayin at nose nix said so in his interview at the senior bowl. A dynamic d end would help more and that is dareus or sum1 in the second

by erie of bills on Jan 30, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions

We played a lot of 4-3 looks, which helped Williams stay on the field

If the Bills really want to be a 3-4 team, they will need a true NT to stop the run. Williams can still play DT on passing downs and 4-3 looks. Sure, Dareus would help stop the run but not as much as a true NT.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions

Which is why we drafted troupe. Williams and him hold down nt. I am just goin off what nix says not my preference but he said we are a 3 4 defense and williams is the nose and those are his words not mine. Carrington to replace stroud and now we need an upgrade over edwards. I wouldn’t mind peterson not at all I just think they will focus on stopping the run first and foremost

by erie of bills on Jan 30, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions

they will not leave a potential 5 time or more pro bowler on the board, at any position, regardless of how bad they want to stop the run. if they see peterson or green as the most hall of fame likely candidates in the draft than those two will at the top of nix’s board. period

by boomsauce on Jan 30, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly

if you are drafting at 3 and your team completely lacks any elite talent, you need to take elite talent at any position. I’d rather have an all pro player than an average or above average player any day of the week.

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by panekattack on Feb 1, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

I don't know what games you were watching

But Dwan Edwards was very good at DE this year. He was second in the league in tackles by defensive lineman to only Kyle Williams prior to being injured. If anyone on the d-line needs to be replaced it’s stroud that’s it. And we already took a DT and DE last year I don’t see them giving up on them already. Our poor Run D is credited to poor LB play NOT poor D-line play. LB’s are the one’s that need to fill holes and keep contain on the outside both of which our LB’s failed at miserably this past year. As NIX said our LB’s need to get BIGGER. Problem is, there’s no LB’s good enough to be picked at 3, so Peterson it is. Would you really pass up on Darelle Revis or Nnamdi Asomogha for a mediocre DE or LB?

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by panekattack on Jan 31, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

U ppl are crazy if u think peterson is the next revis. He is a lot closer to antrel rolle a great athlete but more of a hybrid. Very raw, and look at nmamdi from oakland, he is great but has only a minimal impact because oakland couldn’t stop the run

by erie of bills on Jan 31, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions

minimal impact???

revis and asomogha take away a QBs favorite target. this allows the raiders and the jets to push both linebackers and safeties up closer to the LOS because they know they don’t have to worry about deep routes to 1/2 of the field

by boomsauce on Feb 1, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions

And I think your crazy

if you think Peterson could not help this team out in any way….Revis and Nnamdi make a much bigger impact than you seem to see. Also McKelvin looks average at best and McGee is older and now a constant injury risk, so who exactly is our #1 CB? Corner? Youboty? Florence? C’mon man we have a chance to get a lockdown CB and your trying to cut that down because you want another D Lineman. You completely ignored the points I made about Edwards. Get real if you think this team can’t use a talent like Peterson, hell I’d even like to see Prince Amakumara as a Bill if we believe he can be a lockdown CB.

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by panekattack on Feb 1, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions

c`mon man!

Like I said I don’t peterson is the next revis but more of an antrel rolle, great athlete but more of a safety corner hybrid. Of course I would like revis a bill I never said I wouldn’t. As far as nmamdi, how much did he help the raiders the past 5 years? Now they get seymor a probowl dl and what do u know they don’t have a losing season. Dwan edwards is a typical bills free agent, overpay a mediocre player top dollar for marginal performance. Yes we need dareus and an ilb to improve our run d, which is priority 1.

Hm a corner or a d lineman I wonder who will help our d out more? And on a side note, don’t take things personal its just my opinion on a message board you guys are a little ridiculous

by erie of bills on Feb 1, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions

We're ridiculous

for stating our opinions just as strongly as you state yours? At this point I’ll just say agree to disagree and move on. Obviously we don’t see anything in the same light.

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by panekattack on Feb 2, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions

Kudos for the high road!

And yeah, erie of bills – relax, man. It’s the Internet.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 2, 2011 6:02 AM EST up reply actions

Love it!

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by billsoferie on Jan 30, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions

A great cornerback would definitely help our run defense, just not directly...

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by freddy22 on Jan 31, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions

We don’t need no stinkin’ fullback. (How my kids talk)

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 30, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions

Man, the Bills need to trade down…

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Jan 30, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions

that bad?

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions

every time ive sat down and tried to put together a mock, ive realized how much easier that would make things. its tough to decide whether i think 1 blue chip talent is worth 3 good to average talents. i really have no clue what to think

by boomsauce on Jan 30, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions

You're the "trade down" guy

I’m for Gabbert a 3. Though, I put some thought to this:

Trade down to SF at 7. SF needs a QB and Gabbert could be their guy. Pick up SF 2nd in 2011 (45th overall) and a 3rd in 2012 (roughly equal on the trade value board). Take this as a draft over the first two days:

1-7) Von Miller LB Texas A&M
2-34) Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
2-45) Christian Ponder QB Florida State
3-68) James Brewer OT Indiana

This all depends on Ponder’s Pro Day, in my opinion. I still need to see him hit the target in a tight window with some velocity. And if Nix is convinced he’s not a rhythm QB.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 30, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions

I think Ponder was described as a West Coast QB. He had a good game, but I am still not sold on him

as a good QB for the Bills. What is your confidence level taking Gabbert at #3? Do you think Locker hurt his draft stock? If so, How much? What did you think of Kaepernick? What round to you think he will go?

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t know what Nix will do. I would take Gabbert.

I finished rewatching all of Senior Bowl week and I’m putting a story together now.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 31, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions

Joe P.?

Having read your sig, I just have one question. Will you talk about “he who shall not be named” after his Feb. 10th workout? Assuming it goes really well or really bad.

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

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by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions

The combine starts Feb 23. Starting then, absolutely.....it is kind of killing me as it is, but I can't go back on my word.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions

I appreciate the response :), I know by even reading this you were dangling close to the edge.

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions

Stop talking about him!!

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by Kurupt on Jan 31, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Phew, I think Ponder is the only weak link in that draft if that is what would happen. I think Ponder really is a rhythm QB

I mean, every game where he struggled, he didn’t get into a rapport with his WRs and TE, and he just seemed too struggle the moment something broke their stride together, I just cannot take him anywhere in this draft.

by WABillsfan on Jan 31, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions

Looks good on paper

What are the odds of Chan selecting four players off of his senior bowl south squad and surviving in this fan base. With our first four picks. Many would chew him up and spit him out for such a move(s). I guess it is possible just to obvious. Wouldn’t really justify the scouting staffs efforts over the last four months, not to mention that they wouldn’t really help our run defense much. Is Von Miller a day one franchise type starter for us on Day one and who would he replace? It doesn’t look bad on paper other than it looks like we are missing out on other prospects.

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by VanScottM on Jan 31, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions

I think Miller is the kind of talent that you draft, and figure out later where he goes. And there’s only an issue if Merriman comes into form. If he’s still hurt, Miller takes the Jack OLB spot. Arthur Moats is good, but he’s not Von Miller.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 31, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions

Ah! Von Miller talk, I love it :)

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions

Voted A for jack wagon

the draft gets a B, only because of the FB. Great job Joe.

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by VanScottM on Jan 30, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions

Thanks.....Don't like drafting Hynoski, or a FB period?

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions

i was planning on posting one of these tonight, but as a few new ones went up ill will wait for another time…
more to the point, i certainly like the mock. however i feel its more likely powe’s off the board by the 4th round than kaepernick, so i think id swap those picks. still, good job

by boomsauce on Jan 30, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions

You could be right about Powe, but I am more worried Kaepernick goes in the 2nd

He really helped himself at the Sr Bowl and he will perform will at the Combine drills with no rush in his face

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions

Love it up until the 5th, good stuff Joe.

Frenobillsfan

by cencalclassics on Jan 30, 2011 8:19 PM EST reply actions

Solid, gave it a B

Peterson is a great pick. While I prefer Gabbert at this juncture, I would not be upset with Peterson. He is going to be great.

Wilson would also be a great pickup. We need a player of that caliber on the inside. If they do plan to keep Poz, they will really, really need to make other players the focal point of the D. This is a good start.

Don’t like the Kaepernick pick. If they don’t take one of the top QB prospects early, I don’t want them taking a bigtime developmental player like this. Give me an OT or another front 7 player here.

Why do we need not one, but two developmental NT’s? We already have a significant investment in one (Troup), so I doubt the team would add another that early in the draft. I’d say OL or front 7 again.

Like the idea of the blocking TE. The team desperately needs one. I don’t know anything about Smith, so I’ll take your word for it….

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by Kurupt on Jan 30, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions

I would love to get on board with Gabbert, but I haven't seen him play

It makes me nervous that Gabbert wasn’t in the conversation until Locker dropped, Luck decided to stay in school, and “he who shall not be talked about until the combine” played poorly in his bowl game. Is it possible that Gabbert is being overhyped? If he is the pick, I will get behind it and hope for the best.

Kaepernick was impressive in the Sr Bowl. There is talk that he might go early in the second round. With Brohm’s craptastic peformance and Brown unable to beat out Brohm, I think it is time to cut them both and start over with someone like Kaepernick. I do like your idea of taking another OT, but what happens if we pass on a QB at #3?

We really don’t need both Powe and Neild. Neild is just a guy I came across and really like. I see him as PS material at best. Powe on the other hand represents good value. Troup didn’t play that well as to completely negate stacking some talent here.

Smith is a sleeper, IMO.

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions

"Craptastic"

I will vow to use that word at least 3 times tomorrow at work, lol!

"Why so serious?!?!?"

by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions

in 10 years it will be in Websters with a picture of Duke Preston next to it :-)

For my own personal sanity, I am officially banning myself from reading/saying anything about Cam Newton.... starting the day after the Bowl game until the start of the combine.

by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions

Ohhh dear god…. my brain just re-lapsed into an easily forgetfull past…. WOW!

"Why so serious?!?!?"

by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions

Great, gave it an A

I like it. Mainly for your commitment to stopping the run and adding Kaepernick in the 3rd (the snap shot of a scouting report was also very informative on the player. It should be a rule that any mock must be accompanied by them:)

About the only thing I see differently is in the 2nd. Taking a thumper with basically what amounts to a late first, is too high IMO. I feel like those guys can be found later in the draft and groomed to take over after a year or two. Of course, we need a guy next year to help Poz and our run D. That is way I hope Nix and Merriman get to work on this one. Shoring up our immediate need for a thumper through FA.

To add, I believe this years OT crop to be a good one. Not necessarily with Top end talent, but a solid group of guys that can all be had in rounds 2-5. And through this depth, it may lead a few guys to slide out of the 1st. And right into our hands. So for me, I’d like a Carimi, Solder or Carpenter type mauler there in the 2nd to help our running game advance. Then take a thumper of an ILB later on, perhaps instead of that 4th NT:)

by DJ O on Jan 30, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions

Good ideas

I went into this mock thinking I was going to take a OT in the second. But when I was faced with taking the best ILB in the draft in Wilson or the 3 or 4th best OT, I decided to go with the best ILB.

If we take a OT in the 2nd, who do you like at ILB in the fourth?

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by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions

You know, I don’t have much knowledge of the position that far down the draft. It’s something I’m going to monitor. But to answer that today, I’d say Mark Herzlich- Boston College. He’s 6-4 248lbs. Played OLB and battled cancer. I believe he’s smart and tough enough to transition inside.

by DJ O on Jan 30, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions

I bet you would like these changes

1. CB – Patrick Peterson
2. OT – Derek Sherrod
3. QB – Collin Kaepernick
4. DT – Jerrell Powe
4. FS – Robert Sands
5. TE – Andre Smith
6. ILB – Mario Harvey
7. FB – Henry Hynoski

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by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions

Nice.

If Derek benches 34+ reps I’m all on board. Think he’s more of a LT than a power O RT. Not that I’m nit picking or anything:)

Harvey looks great I love unheralded thumper types that play the game just to lay a lick. Man, it feels like it’s been a long time since we’ve had one of those on our D.

by DJ O on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions

I agree....trouble is only two OTs fit that description

Gabe Carimi will likely go before we pick in the second and Marcus Cannon is a bit of a reach at this point in the process. Both are great options at RT.

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by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions

fit that discription with approximate 2nd round grades

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by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions

Tad skeptical...

Add about 15-20 lbs on Kaepernick and I’m on board. However, I’d like to see some D (especially up front) show up in the second. I think we have enough spare parts to shuffle the O-line and be competive. I’m far from knocking it, but if your brakes don’t work, I usually don’t put money in premium parts for the radiator…. Unless Harvey and Powe pan out….

"Why so serious?!?!?"

by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions

Sorry picked D

It was just too funny to pass up!!!

Not bad, but i really am starting to like ILB Sheppard. He is a thumper and looked like he could get off of blockers to make plays.

I really wanted a QB in Rd 1 this year, but i just dont really see the value of a QB 3rd overall. To be honest, I dont really know who is worth the 3rd overall pick.

Peterson seems really good, but with no pass rush it doesnt matter who the DB’s are.

Let the offseason begin

by Rudy916 on Jan 30, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions

LOL...No problem. I am already considering changes but won't subject people to another mock until after the combine

In a perfect world, Merriman returns to form, Carrington becomes a force at DE, Troup blossoms into a stud DT, and Wilson/Sheppard free up Poz to blitz….there is your pass rush.

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by Joe P. on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions

Vote

Can I vote A and D?

by Moose68 on Jan 31, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions

Its not like the Bills are going to do anything serious next year and you cant fill every hole in one year, the Bills must pick top talent EARLY at the major areas that need fixing

DONT pick Peterson at 3 sure he might be the safest pick, but in a small market like buffalo we cant afford to have are highest paid and best players be guys that are CB’s,LB’s, or Safeties. We have to have our best and most expensive players be on the D and O lines and most importantly aQB if we are ever going to go anywhere in this league!! For that reason we really should trade the pick with a team wanting a QB like Gabbert maybe Arizona at 5,San Fran at 7, Tennesse at 8, or Washington at 10 and even Dallas and Jerry Jones are a possibility to want to jump up and grab Peterson at 3. I know its stupid to suppose trades but theres a good possibility that at least one if not all these teams may want to make some deals to move up. If so the Bills must do this , if so I would take the best OT available Costanza in the first or Dareus and ONLY him if he’s available which he very well may be. Then use the second on which ever position you don’t get in the first round DT or OT,Phil Taylor from Baylor looks like a great player and a possibility for the bills at 34 or OT Gabe Carimi from Wisconsin. I really hope the Bills don’t turn to FA to fill the hole at RT its just delaying the inevitable. Draft a top talent guy please and the line looks to be young and a strong part of the team for a good five years. and please don’t waste a third or any other pick on a QB get some LB’s or S with those picks, we need a for sure franchise guy at the QB position and all the QB’s to win the last decade of Superbowls have proven that top talent is a necessity at the QB position, very rarely do you see teams succeed FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS with a 3rd rounder or higher type guy also next years class does looks promising especially if some guys come out early.

by shBuffalofan on Jan 31, 2011 1:29 AM EST reply actions

You are right...can't fill all the holes

see my comments to poz below

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions

can’t fill all the holes

TWSS

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Jan 31, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions

but not for lack of trying :-)

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions

BTW

voted “inspiration”….nice work

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Jan 31, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions

Thanks....you should do one sometime

If you take it “seriously”, it is a fun exercise that really stops and makes you think.

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions

OOh Yea and why not take a chance with VInce Young, I know he’s got some problems but he a great QB and has been successful even on a mediocre Titans team. Bring him in and let him sit behind FItz for a yr or less or let him compete for the job, he the exact QB that would prosper in Gaileys offense so… WHY NOT? its 100% worth the risk and is even less of a risk then taking a guy like newton or gabbert or any other guy in this yrs draft

by shBuffalofan on Jan 31, 2011 1:42 AM EST reply actions

The QB needs to be mentally tough, a guy you can count on when things go wrong

Does that sound like VY to you?

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions

Of course…. He’ll defend his teammates by throwing his helmet!

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by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions

I like it

gave it a B. A big, fast cornerback is fine by me at 3, picking that high you dont really pick the player the player kind of picks you and its looking like Peterson might be picking us. So Im ok with that.

I like the big ILB in the 2nd, Sheppard or otherwise. So Im cool with that pick too. Right there you’ve already added to needed pieces to the defense. Let Florence go and start Peterson and Leo and let them have their growing pains now in year 2 of the rebuild as a tandem. Agree with everything you said about the importance of getting a big thumper to let Poz do his thing.

I dont like Kapernick in the third that much, I wouldn’t object though if thats the way they need to go. I just dont like the idea of getting a QB that late. If we have to get one, might as well do it earlier or later. He’d be sitting behind Fitz for a few years anyway. I’d much rather go OT here. I know we all like to think we can find that fourth round guy to help out but more often than not you cant rely on these guys. Plus, the guy you drafted is a big RT type. That means with potentially no free agency we don’t have anyone to compete with Bell at LT and we don’t have anyone to start at RT. If there is free agency that still gives us two huge holes to have to pay to fill on the market. I really dont like that. It was so plain to see how badly our OTs handicapped what Chan could with the offense that the idea of not boosting either bookend on the o-line really put a wet blanket on what was otherwise developing into a great mock draft. Go OT in the third with a better prospect who could either start from day 1 at RT or play either OT position and I like this draft a lot better.

Unlike others comments I love that you took a FB. I’ve been killing for the Bills to take a blocking FB for so many years only to watch the guys I like go on to look like great prospects and successes for others teams rushing attacks. John Connor is only the most recent example and he looks like hes going to be a beast for the Jets. Lets please finally take one. I think we’ve forgotten here in Buffalo how much a great FB helps an offense. You want to get CJ Spiller going? Get him a mean lead blocker. Sorry, Corey is a fun guy and all but its time to get serious at FB.

Love the blocking tight end as well. If we have to let Bell start without any effort to do better then we’re going to need a big bodied blocker to help him out on a majority of snaps.

Overall a B. Not bad Joe.

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by poz on Jan 31, 2011 7:56 AM EST reply actions

Thanks poz....good comments

There is just no way to plug all the holes, and there are very few clear cut BPAs at each position. Throw in the CBA issues and this is the toughest year to mock a Bills draft in many years.

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions

There is just no way to plug all the holes

TWSS- she’s adamant!

What we call our despair is often only the painful eagerness of unfed hope.

by fansince60 on Jan 31, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions

She’s Adam Ant?! Goody Two Shoes!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Ada.PNG

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions

No joke

I just want to see their big board as it stands as of today. I think it’s gonna come down to trusting Nix and company making the calls. So far, I’m working on my “WTF?” face for draftday and added youtube to my “favorite” links so I can justify the entire day on cheap highlights. As for the CBA, you have to hate money not to agree and get it completed. No NFL= lose-lose situation. I just can’t fathom that for some reason.

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by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions

Gave it a C

Like you I’m not really sold on any of the QB’s in this year’s draft and I think Peterson is a great pick at 3 if he’s even there (Broncos may take this guy). They all seem to have something missing I’m not sure what it is but each one of them seem to have just that one thing missing that will keep them from being 1st rd. pick 3 material. I’m still hoping though that either Mallett or Locker fall to us in the 2nd round because even though both have showed the good bad and ugly, I believe 1 of those 2 can still make it if put in the right situation.

Like I said love the Peterson pick, my other pick if he’s gone would be AJ Green those 2 guys seem like they are both destined for greatness in the NFL. Obviously CB is a much bigger need than WR so I’d definately prefer Peterson.

Don’t mind the LB pick in Rd. 2 assuming like I said Mallett or Locker aren’t there. We certainly could use LB help because our biggest problem defending the run last year was due to poor LB play not so much the D Line that everybody loves to crucify on here.

Not a fan at all of the QB pick in rd. 3, like I said if we don’t land one in rounds 1 or 2 don’t even bother taking another developmental guy in rd. 3. I just don’t see any of these later QB’s amounting to anything more than a backup at best. If we do land a QB in rounds 1 or 2 I’d like to see them take a O lineman or TE here or definately a LB if we go CB, QB in rounds 1 and 2.

Not a big fan of the NT pick we already have a guy in Troup who we took in Rd. 2 last year and I highly doubt CHIX are giving up on him already. Also Kyle Williams is there as well. As far as DE goes I belive only Stroud may need to be replaced by Carrington because like Troup I doubt CHIX is giving up on Carrington as well. So for me I’d rather see an O lineman another LB or TE here. Especially if they land a QB in Rd. 2, get a solid O lineman to help protect him when he’s ready to play in a yr or 2.

Don’t mind taking a flier on a fullback especially late in the draft the only question I have is do we actually use a FB all that often? Last year I remember a lot of 3 WR 1 TE 1 RB sets so the FB was hardly involved on offense. And given the amount of talent we currently have at WR I can’t see us using the FB other than short yardage or goaline situations.

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by panekattack on Jan 31, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions

You drafted two NT after all the talk that Williams will not be moved to DE

Your choices would have been better if you replaced the NT and FB with ILB and SS

by Winnie33 on Jan 31, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions

Might be a homer here but...

Love the Neild pick. He is very athletic for a NT and could possibly play 5-technique, in this man’s opinion. Eats up blockers very well.

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by willgarr15 on Jan 31, 2011 11:43 AM EST reply actions

agreed.....the guy just seems like he is a Bills

I would love to see him get stashed on the PS

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

Good draft

I agree in principle with just about everything except the two NT’s (we already have Troup, and Kyle Williams is going to continue playing inside) and the FB (Chan Gailey doesn’t use FB’s that much and we already have McIntyre who is pretty good).

I won’t be unhappy at all if the Bills take Peterson at #3, but I think a really good pass-rushing, run-stopping OLB would be a smarter pick (either Robert Quinn or Von Miller). A strong pash rush would instantly improve the play of our existing DB’s. If we resign Florence we are basically set at CB for a while, so Peterson is a bit of a luxury pick.

I would prefer Kelvin Sheppard over Wilson for the ILB in the second round given the problems Wilson has had with injuries and Sheppard’s skills in coverage, but Wilson would obviously be fine. And I very much like the choice of Kaepernick, though it may be necessary to take him in round two. One way to do that is to trade down a little in round one, still get either Quinn or Miller, and then use the extra second rounder on Kaepernick. That would free up the third round pick for an OT like James Carpenter from Alabama or a TE like Luke Stocker.

In short, your mock draft has all the right ideas, but by tweaking it a little it could accomplish the same basic objectives and be even better.

by Macktruck on Jan 31, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions

Thanks.....Sheppard is fine with me too

I am not sure that the Bills won’t roll with what we have at OLB. Remember we gave Kelasy and Merriman extensions, not to mention Moats played well. And, yes, I expect Kaepernick’s stock to rise after the combine.

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions

But Kelsay gives us no pass rush at all, and Merriman is very iffy health-wise (despite what the docs say). Even if Merriman works out, what would the Bills pass rush (and run defense) be like with him on one side and either Quinn or Miller on the other? Isn’t that a heart-warming thought? Wouldn’t that instantly make McKelvin, McGee, Florence (if he is back), and Byrd that much better?

by Macktruck on Jan 31, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Macktruck! You are onto something my friend . . . go w/ your heartwarming feeling :)

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions

Glad it warms your heart as well. I’m thinking that with two big, strong and fast OLBs controlling the edge we will not only get to the QB more often but also push running plays into the middle, making the d-line more effective. As good as he may be, Peterson doesn’t do anything comparable for us in terms of improving our defense.

by Macktruck on Jan 31, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions

lol

Heck our line and LB corps boosted our secondaries effectiveness!! I hate saying this, but the D-front is nowhere close to being “gelled.” Seal the edge, force the pass, and let our DB’s get a workout and earn thier $$$…. In a nutshell…. “whiter breaks up a pass on second down. Next play; 6 yard run up the gut for a 1st.” Rinse and repeat….

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by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions

BTW

I’m not advocating defense and saying that a good defense wins championships, Im just saying that if you can’t stop the most strainght forward approach to control the clock and control the game, your gonna end up 4-12.

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by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed

IMO Von Miller is just as much of a lock as Peterson is at this level, I know I am in the minority here, but Peterson is a better value in this league as a safety. He’s under utilized as a CB, despite the fact that he can play CB very well. The addition of Miller does to things, it puts more talent on the field and it makes any ILB we draft this year better. Another name to watch is Justin Houston, the kid is a man beast, and wants to rip opposing QBs heads off and roll them down the street.

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions

keep these thoughts

but watch Quinn at the combine.

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by VanScottM on Jan 31, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

I LOVE Quinn! The combine won’t change it, good or bad. I’m more of a game film guy . . . and to me, Von Miller has better film than Quinn. But again a great pick.

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

Prefer Quinn

I feel he is better against the run and if we’re drafting front 7, that has to be the priority.

by Slick Shifty on Feb 1, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions

What about Moats?

does he not deserve a full year? he had 2.5 sacks in 3 games with real time on the field.

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by billsoferie on Jan 31, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

Moats shows a lot of promise, but he is not at the same level as Miller of Quinn. I’m also not convinced that Merriman is going to be able to stay healthy (I sure hope he will, but there is certainly reason to be concerned).

by Macktruck on Feb 1, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions

Absolutely....there are many players that would make the Bills pass rush better

But consider this…..McKelvin has not performed, McGee can’t stay healthy, Florence is half way out the door. Who is going to cover Welker, Marshal, etc?

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions

But consider this…..McKelvin has not performed, McGee can’t stay healthy, Florence is half way out the door. Who is going to cover Welker, Marshal, etc?

But consider this…Stroud is old and needs to be replaced, our run defense is awful, Edwards is injury prone. Who is going to free up blockers for Poz Merriman? Who are our other LBs?

i’m less concerned about Welker, Marshall because right now teams just run down our throat – i’d rather fix the run issue and make teams throw against us – then fix that piece of it if it still needs fixing

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by J2 on Jan 31, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

I have consider that

Stroud is old, but has another year in him. Edwards injury had nothing to do with his prior one, correct? He should be fine. Moats, Carrignton and Troup should all be better this year. Kelsey got paid a buoat load of money to do something and it isn’t covering TEs. And finally, Merriman could actually make it back on the field….OK, not counting on that, but it could happen. We do need a ILB. Let’s try it this way…..we are almost certainly losing Whitner and Florence. Who is going to take their spots?

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions

Stroud is old, but has another year in him.

i’m not sure – maybe in a backup roll – but to me he was awful this year and was a big reason why our run defense wasn’t very good.

Let’s try it this way…..we are almost certainly losing Whitner and Florence. Who is going to take their spots?

i’d argue that we’re not “losing” Whitner – but that’s another conversation :)

Like you with Stroud – I think McGee has another year left in him – I’m also fine with letting Leodis starting and getting him more and more comfortable – regardless of his burnability.

Here’s where i’m at – it really doesn’t matter who our CBs are if a) we cannot get pressure and b) we cannot stop the run. We need to make teams one dimensional and I think winning as a team starts with stopping the run – something we are awful at.

Fairley, Dareus just do so much more for your team. I know there are other rounds but this is a once in a long time (well hopefully) opportunity to grab a guy who can control the LOS – something we desperately need.

I know this is a circular argument and there really isn’t anything to “be won” if you will – it’s just my preference after seeing guys like Spiller, Lynch, Parrish, Evans, McGahee, Whitner, McKelvin get drafted and the team does a whole boat load of nothing.

On the flip side we have Eric Wood and that’s about it unless you go back to the Mike Williams pick. Then throw Maybin and McBusto in there and we have had essentially 1 good linemen in the past 10 years.

I think on a team that has excellent offensive and defensive front 7 you’re going to get a heck of a lot more out of a Spiller, Parrish, McKelvins and Evans of the football world. and to me that starts with drafting impact linemen and the best ones traditionally go very early

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by J2 on Jan 31, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions

You know what the real problem is don't you?

There are damn few position on this team that couldn’t be upgraded! Now if we could just decide who the BPA in each round is :-)

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

it would be much easier to just count the positions

that have talent enough that we would not find it desirable to spend money or picks on upgrading – LG, RG, WR, RB, NT, FS.

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by poz on Jan 31, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions

lol – now that’s rec worthy!

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by J2 on Jan 31, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions

it’s easy to say you don’t care who our corners are when we’ve had three decent to good corners for a couple years now. If we lose Florence and McGee gets hurt again, it will pain us all to watch Reggie Corner starting on the outside with who knows covering welker in the slot.

by Slick Shifty on Feb 1, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions

it’s easy to say you don’t care who our corners are when we’ve had three decent to good corners for a couple years now

The Bills were rushed on more than any team in the NFL by 40 touches!

Our pass defense was ranked 3rd because we were only throw on 473 times - which is 2nd worst/best in the league other than Oaklands 470.

Now I ask you – if we’ve had 3 decent to good corners and our team cannot stop the run which leads to a 4-12 record then what is another good to decent corner?

Wouldn’t it be more prudent to stop teams from rushing on us and make them pass so our corners even matter? What good are corners if teams rarely throw on us?

Never use two drops of the formula. It would cause a reaction on the molecular level that is completely unpredictable.

by J2 on Feb 1, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions

I don't understand the Gabbert is this year's Locker statement...

how is that possible? what do they have in common? most of the time when that is said, it means they were the top qb coming out, but then go back to school…im lost

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by BravesRaleigh on Jan 31, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions

I took it to mean that he DID declare, having the hype around him this season. Whereas Locker had the hype, but didn’t declare. So I interpret Joe’s comments as fearful that Gabbert may show his true colors after someone has invested heavily in him, and they may not mix well on the canvas…much in the same way that Jack Locker could use a fresh coat of paint.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions

durp: Jake.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions

yes...this

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

And I tried to be concise. Didn’t happen.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

Wow

Best explaination of a feeling that I’ve been expieriencing that I’ve heard yet.

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by kent5217 on Jan 31, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

Last year, Locker was considered a top pick, but he went back to school

This year Gabbert is considered a top pick, but he declared. If he did go back to school and had a bad year, I wonder if he would be rated as highly?

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by Joe P. on Jan 31, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions

It comes down to not seeing enough in these QBs before a decision needs to be made by them and by NFL teams. It’s a no-win situation if they don’t come out guns blazing. If they go back, there’s a huge risk they turn most suitors off by poor play. If they declare based on Aaron Maybinitis, then they’ve wasted everyone’s time with false hope and inflated value.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions

I gave it a C

but only because of your TWSS note. Truly, it’s a B. Good thought put into all of this.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

Current song recommendation: Ween "Mr. Richard Smoker"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions

If the Bills walked away from this draft w/ these picks . . . I would be happy. Any draft you walk away from w/ 2 legitimate day 1 starters and a strong developmental project is a good one historically.

Remember Chan took Mike Tomczak to a divisional playoff! The guy can coach QBs!

by Mr S on Jan 31, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions