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For years, the New York Giants have had the NFL's most talented and most consistently excellent pass rushes. Keyed by players ranging from Michael Strahan to Osi Umenyiora to Justin Tuck, the Giants always get after opposing quarterbacks ferociously. The Buffalo Bills have a new Giants pass rusher to worry about this weekend in second-year pro Jason Pierre-Paul.

The Giants lead the NFL with 18 sacks heading into Week 6, and Pierre-Paul has emerged as the team's leading sack artist with 6.5 after recording five as a rookie. Ahead of such well-established veterans, is Pierre-Paul now the key to the Giants' pass rush?

"I would not call JPP the key cog in the pass rush," says Ed Valentine of BigBlueView.com. "What I would call him is the next in a long line of great Giants defensive ends. He is a tremendous player - probably a guy with the freakish athletic ability that should remind people of Jevon Kearse."

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Valentine points out that while the Giants have excellent parts, their pass rush is a function of the sum of those parts, and not reliant on any of those parts specifically.

"Really it's the fact that it can come from so many places," says Valentine. "Pierre-Paul, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck - when he's healthy, which he isn't close to being right now - Mathias Kiwanuka, blitzing safeties off the edge... they just have a lot of guys who can get to the quarterback."

Bills head coach Chan Gailey, however, made sure that he let reporters know on Wednesday that the Bills are keenly aware of the South Florida product that the team passed on to select C.J. Spiller in April of 2010.

"We will know where he is, don't you worry," said Gailey.

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yeah he should be a focus of your line come Sunday

he’s slowly working to become the full package that Tuck is. Also, don’t know if Fitzpatrick has fumbleitis when he gets hit, but JPP has freakishly long plastic man arms, so it seems like he literally wraps his arms around QBs twice when he hits them. alot of times some part of his arm knocks the ball loose.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
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by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Flip

JPP will do a ton of things in his career but the initial impression he left with the flip he pulled in the pre-game circle at S. Florida will always be the first thing I think off.

by Wyrd UpSide on Oct 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Could JPP have played OLB in our 3-4?

If Chris Hairston can play even decently in this game I’’ll be sold that he really is more than the 4th round RT prospect he was made out to be.

Though to be honest, it might worry me more that Perry is so familiar with the tendencies of Eric Wood and Andy Levitre. He was part of the staff that scouted, analyzed and then drafted them. He ran defenses against them in their first off-season and should be very aware of their strengths and weaknesses. Obviously they are entering their primes since then when they were just kiddies but still, some tendencies never really go away. Relatedly, I worry about his familiarity with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Both of these issues should help Perry formulate more finely tuned ways to get to Fitzy and its not like the Giants pass rush needs any more help as is.

Considering how much spread we run would it be that shocking to see him line up Tuck and JPP inside on some passing downs? Just be thankful Kiwanucka isnt healthy!

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Oct 14, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sold on Fewell knowing Fitz inside and out. Trent was the starting QB during his tenure and Ryan just an afterthought. Wood has changed positions (RG to C) and along with Levitre have matured and are the strength of the OL. Sometimes there’s no scheme to overcome talent.
And yes, Kiwanuka’s health (or lack thereof) is a fortune for us.

by Morningw00d on Oct 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan just an afterthought

Until Fewell took over and started Fitzy, that is.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Oct 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuck is out , Kiwi is fine.

Which works out even better for you.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Oct 14, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?!?

would you look at that, our offensive tackles have a chance!

Isnt Tuck a superb run defender as well? This could be excellent news for Fred Jackson.

Osi and JPP is still no laughing matter though, you guys are ridiculously deep at end

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Oct 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can never have enough passrushers.

There was much screaming and damning of Jerry Reese when JPP was selected, but NO Giants fan would trade him now (except for maybe Revis, Ngata, or Suh).

and Wild wasn’t kidding about JPP’s arms. He’s got an 82in wingspan, and they look even bigger than that.

Now, he definitely has the athletic ability to play OLB in a 34, however he was VERY raw last year, and is still learning the 43 DE position THIS year. The learning curve would have been even steeper at LB.

by Raptor22 on Oct 14, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know your deep when you are moving Kiwi around

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Oct 14, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuck being out is part of the reason our run D sucks

that and MLB J Goff as well.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Oct 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Tollefson is no slouch, either

He’s another solid DE that the Giants have. Heck, he might be the best pass rusher in Buffalo if he were here.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tolly

the forgotten man.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call K

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Oct 14, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This week along with the Pats

Will be the biggest challenge this season. The thing about the Giants is that they are consistently good year in year out and are usually more than the sum of their parts. Good coaching, good qb, good d, playing at home. This game will be tough.

That being said… If Fitz doesn’t turn it over and makes some plays early it’ll go down to the wire. Yes, Fred Jackson needs a good game, but this one rests on the qbs shoulders. He will be under the most pressure…. Should be interesting.

by Doctor Huge Pecs on Oct 14, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

My Key for this game isn't the fact of who is healthy and who isn't for the Giants.

Their depth along the front seven is almost interchangeable. My key is if their pressure will force us out of our spread formation. Will we go five wide, four wide or confined to three wide at the most. If they are able to force the three wide or even split two ends, will we be able to match up running the ball and play a different style offensively. Another key of mine is our ability to adjust defensively in the second half to stop Bradshaw and Jacobs. Our biggest effort needs to be on defense in the second half.

We all know we can adjust to what ever pressure the Giants bring, but will that adjustment take us away from what we do best and that is to confuse the defense by putting four and five receivers/running backs wide.

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by VanScottM on Oct 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Jacobs is likely out

but there’s been talk of actually playing Da’Rel Scott, which Giants fans have been clamoring for since week 2 of the preseason.

by Raptor22 on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's official

been ruled out for Sunday. Tuck too.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember seeing JPP for the first time

When he dominated Florida State in a big road win for USF. He was in the backfield all day showcasing his explosiveness and athleticism. He was raw, but had star potential written all over him. Now, that potential is being realized and he’s proving to be one of the best young DE’s in football, and maybe the best. He’s a scary dude.

I’ve been impressed with the talent acquisition of the Giants in recent years. They seem to do a great job at adding star talent. JPP and Nicks in consecutive years was phenomenal and makes me jealous. The Bills haven’t been able to add one star talent like that in a long time. Terrell Thomas was a great pick a few years back too. Linval Joseph last year, taken after we grabbed Troup, looks like he could become a very solid DT for them. The Giants do a very solid job of drafting in the top 3 rounds and that’s what’s helped them become a decent, at worst, team every year. Unlike many of the other big market teams, the Giants have built their team through the draft, almost predominantly.

Glad Tuck is probably going to be out. He’s as good an all-around DE as there is the league. Unfortunately, Osi is back and wreaking havoc. 4 sacks in 2 games? More jealousy.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing that makes it even more sweet about JPP

is that no one wanted him. many thought taking him in the first round would be the biggest draft mistake in many years. and the other highly touted ends that draft that other fans and teams had high on their boards haven’t done half of what JPP has.

yeah we seemed to have a good draft this year as well, getting Prince in round 1 and Marvin Austin in round 2, but both caught the injury bug early, so the jury is out.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Oct 14, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets be real here:

what REALLY makes having JPP sweet is that the eagles jumped past the Giants to take DE, Brandon Graham, and he hasn’t amounted to much yet.

I still hold out hope for Prince this year. IIRC, he was a very instinctive corner in college, so hopefully when he gets on the field that will take over and he’ll contribute.

I was REALLY looking forwards to seeing Austin go. Besides Sapp’s man-crush, I saw more than a few people saying he has Suh-like potential. I’m looking forwards to seeing him next year, especially if he’s going to be even stronger, like he’s been tweeting he will be.

by Raptor22 on Oct 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

17 of 22 starters were drafted or undrafted FA .

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Oct 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 sacks

If we get out of this game with the offense scoring at least 24 points and Fitzy only being sacked 3 times, I’ll consider it a win for the offense. I just hope the defense can stop the run…

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Oct 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

3 seems a bit high , no? considering that's about their yearly total.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Oct 15, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

…What? No.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Oct 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is refering to number of sacks allowed by bills o line. Incase there was confusion there.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Oct 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah, yes. Sorry, I was confused. I still stand by my 3 sacks prediction.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Oct 16, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

"We will know where he is, don't you worry," said Gailey.

That’s great, but what about the other 10 guys?

The Giants pass rush scares the crap out of me. The over-hyped Eagles did not.

Fitz is a stud, but he’s gonna have his hands full and take a beating along with it.
GO BILLS!

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Oct 14, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

but he does get the ball out in 1.5 seconds

hard to sack that. Giants are hoping to pressure, disrupt, get their hands up, mostly

@Patricia_Traina Under TC, the Giants are 53-24 when they rush for 100+ yards and 15-25 when they don't.

by AJ_in_VA on Oct 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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