Buffalo Bills Place Shawne Merriman On Injured Reserve
by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
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PrintJust as we spent the afternoon discussing the recurring Achilles injury for Shawne Merriman, the Buffalo Bills announced Tuesday afternoon that they'd placed Merriman on Injured Reserve, ending his 2011 season after just five games.
Merriman dealt with a shoulder injury early in the season, and was given plenty of reps off after the team tried to get him into football shape. His pre-existing Achilles injury, however, flared up in a Week 5 win over Philadelphia, and progress in healing from that injury was sufficiently slow that his season is now over. He finishes the year with nine tackles and a sack.
By our count, Merriman has appeared in 23 games in his last four seasons. Merriman signed a two-year contract in January that lasts him through the 2012 season, but there's at least a decent chance that GM Buddy Nix and head coach Chan Gailey pull the plug on the Merriman experiment after the season. Time will tell how many of the incentives in his lucrative, incentive-laden contract Merriman earned; it's tough to imagine he'll have earned much beyond his base salary for his 2011 efforts.
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Speaking for all of us....
Really…..just really…
by WagonCircler12 on Oct 25, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Roster spot open.
Who will get promoted or possibly brought in as a fa.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
J2
what’s your opinion of Berrian? Was he in a “bad marriage” or is he washed up?
This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.
mediocre – he really never impressed me – he had a couple decent seasons but I never saw him as a game changer.
I wouldn’t put much stock in my opinion as I didn’t get to watch him a ton – but that’s my assessment.
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
'roids
he was a player who’s ability was significantly increased due to PAD’s. once he got busted for them, he’s been a shell…literally and figuratively, of his San Diego days.
ya he said Berrian
not Merriman. WR Bernard Berrian never played for the Chargers or took roids.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
maybe he should.....he sucks!!!!!!
Don't fear the Reaper......fear The Beard
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Never said he was good :)
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Wonder if someone is at his work out. At the least do not leave a stone un turned.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
eh, I’d be really, really, really surprised if we got him.
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
saw bits and pieces of his workout. He looked winded and at the end was limping slightly. At 37 (38 in December), I don’t think he’ll add much if anything.
This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.
Was just saying when a roster spot.is.open do not leave a stone unturned. Specially when.you got holes like swiss cheese.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I bet T.O. can get around the edge.
Lead this team as our rush olb.
Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"
by bflo on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Who?
T.O.,A.Coleman,Buster Davis,M.Jasper, E.Brown, or Pat Williams? Like you said we do have an open spot WR, NT, OLB we need help to sure up those areas. There’s a plan in place for the WR spot (Spiller) and the OLBer is appearrently up to Moats and Batten but what of the NT, and what if they’er not enough? I know we have an NFC game but I hope we get at least get two of those taken care of by the time we back to playing more AFC teams. I’m not pushing the pannic button because other teams have injuries and guys who are under achieveing, or are playing out of position just as we do so next man up! Go Bills!
disappointing but had to know it was going to happen
But i feel we got a pretty good group of young OLBs, batten and moats. we need to pick another one up. And now OLB is definitely the #1 position of need.
Fitzmagic
what about
Marcus Spears from the cowboys? isn’t he in a contract yr?
Raise your hand if you didn't see this coming
Good thing they gave him that two year extension after one practice with the team.
Raise your hand if you didn’t see this coming….
and then slap yourself.
"First souls collected" - Abayarde, 9/11/11
"THE BLACK HOLE IS BEEN VANISH... YOU CAN ENTER BUT YOU WILL LEAVE WITH OUT A SOUL ." - Abayarde, 9/18/11
"I WILL SAY THIS ANOTHER SOUL COLLECTED" - Abayarde, 9/26/11
by MJuice23 on Oct 25, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing they gave him that two year extension after 15 minutes of one practice with the team.
there – fixed it for ya!
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was a good idea
and i still think it is. Low risk high reward, unfortunately there was no reward. and i feel the same way as Nordic below me.
Fitzmagic
by tomcs on Oct 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh I’m not knocking it – but I think it’s a funny notion that people think we signed him because of 1 practice. We signed him because of what he did in SD – that’s not really debatable.
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So they signed him because of the player that he was 5 seasons ago?
And coming off plenty of season ending injuries? And a failed drug test? That’s even worse.
by twoeightnine on Oct 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
What person that didn’t make the roster was more valuable than the possibility Merriman returned to form?
Was it worth carrying Coleman over said possibility? Ed Wang? Mike Caussin?
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
“So they signed him because of the player that he was 5 seasons ago?”
Well, it worked for Carson Palmer.
by Applsoss on Oct 25, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I tend to agree. Its incredibly difficult to find quality OLBs right now unless you draft them. You gotta take your shots. I’m no doctor, I assumed there was some decent probability he could contribute.
Not sure it hamstrung us except that we lost a young guy we could have carried on the team. Were going to need to think about drafting an OLB anyway this year.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Oct 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
“Good thing they gave him that two year extension after 15 minutes of one practice with the team.”
Well — the Bills gave Rob Johnson $25 million and gave up a 1st AND 2nd after ONE PRESEASON GAME . . .
.
"If You Ain't a Bill I Don't Give a Fxck Bout Ya!! Most Disrespected Team in NFL! I Always feel Disrespected! I'm All In!" -- Steve Johnson
Least the risk was calculated. It was an incentive laiden contract that has an injury clause. I am glad his last shot was here and not in new england where with our luck he would of returned to form.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it was a gamble
I think that is all it was they had the money to spend and if he worked out he would have been one of the best deals running. He didn’t and we are no worse for it so it was a win/ break even situation. I thought it was a long shot and not worth the risk but that’s just me.
So how do you go from Merriman saying he'll be ready for Week 8
to Merriman being thrown on the IR? What the nunnyfudgekins?
Merriman walked into ralph wilson and merrimans achilles ripped. Along with his shoulder fallung appart.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Makes me think of this.
It’s only a flesh wound.
Fatang Fatang.
by NeverendingOptimism on Oct 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
LOL.....why is this not GREEN!!!!!!
Don't fear the Reaper......fear The Beard
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
It's called denial.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
perhaps another case of
a player who thinks/believes they can get healthy and be ready for a few games down the stretch and playoffs and the coaching staff not willing to wait? Didn’t that happen last year with 1 of our guys? Team put a player on IR when really his injury would have only kept him out for 6-8 weeks.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Time to hang up the spikes
When “Lights Out” was at his peak he was unstoppable, unfortunately for the Bills and their fans he was a shell of his former self. It’s time for him to seriously consider retirement.
Wish him the best on his next endeavor….
.
"Football is NOT a contact sport - it is a collision sport.
Dancing IS a contact sport."
Duffy Daugherty / Michigan State
you have to admit even now it is still a fitting nickname
by IiiIIIiiIiI on Oct 25, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think
some team will always take a chance on him based on the “what if” factor….at least for another year or 2
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
instead of lights out
I can hear Dandy Don singing “Turn out the lights, the party’s over”…
This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.
Hopefully Kyle Williams wont be going this same route.
Any word on Troup? i think they should put Dareus at NT and put Carrington and edwards at end with Spencer Johnson rotating in.
Fitzmagic
yes to this below
i think they should put Dareus at NT and put Carrington and edwards at end with Spencer Johnson rotating in.
I’ve been thinking this was something they should do anyway b/c kyle is not much of a 3-4 nose. He’s a great 4-3 DT, but a mediocre 3-4 NT no matter how you shift the line due to his lack of size. How I wish we would just can this 3-4 and play the 4-3 most of our defensive players are used to and actually good at. In a 4-3, I would play Kyle and Dareus inside with Spencer and Kelsay at DE. However, with Kelsay hurt we would have to play Carrington at DE which would leave us with no depth at DE.
personally i like the 3-4 better.
But i was thinking the same thing along the lines of kyle williams. We should put Dareus at NT and have Williams and edwards at end. I think a good thing with the 3-4 is that we have good depth on the DL. But with Dareus at DE i feel it is kind of negated because of williams at DE instead of Dareus. and williams and troup hurt.
Fitzmagic
Frustrating
I’m excited for Moats and Batten and hopefully one of the two will emerge and become a consistent pass rusher but I was really hoping Merriman was going to be the answer…
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
Yes?
This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.
by fansince60 on Oct 25, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
best part is one of my buddies was at the game in which he “hurt his shoulder” and he said he was doing his “lights out” dance walking out of the tunnel and then grabbed his shoulder in pain and he said that was the root of his shoulder injury.
I can’t confirm but my buddy isn’t a liar and I found that pretty funny/alarming
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I initially started laughing when I read this
until the “alarming” part of the “funny/alarming” kicked in haha
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Might of been kyle williams jumping on the shoulder like a little kid.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just gonna guesd 300 plus pounds slammin on it did not help lol.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Antonio Coleman back….
or
sign Everette Brown
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
Who ever is closer to protypical size and has more promise.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Antonio Colemnan
Brian,
what practive squad is coleman on right now?
Giants
In case your wondering....it says F*** boston
by BLO 2 VT 2 TPA on Oct 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooo
by Munchausen on Oct 25, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not sure whats worse...
Merriman to IR or the fact that Maybin is playing well for the Jets,
We are in trouble on D, BIG trouble!
by thunder_716 on Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wait, Maybin was playing well for the Jets?
Here I thought he just got lucky QB1 held onto the ball for 10 seconds, QB2 was a backup running around like a chicken with his head cut off with 0:40 seconds left in a game that couldn’t be won, and he beat a RB mediocre in pass protection.
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and just as many as Clay Matthews, whats your point? Stats without context are meaningless. On only one sack did he actually beat someone, and that was a mediocre pass protecting running back.
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re not just in trouble on D. Our WRs are hurt all across the board and Im waiting to hear if one of our two LTs are ready for the Skins. Corners still need to get healthier too.
Injury bug……….strikes again!
I recommend a healthy dose of Fred Jackson until all symptoms of injury riddleness start to fade.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
by poz on Oct 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on man
So quick question last I checked moats was a inside linebacker hope I’m wrong cause I’d love to see him on the outside bringing some pressure cause no one else is can anyone clarify
by diehard12 on Oct 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Moats is back outside
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
Coleman takes his spot
http://twitter.com/#!/NotoriousOHM/status/128933388462723072
Me first, I second, and I’m already the best there ever will be….
by Posluszny Pollocks on Oct 25, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
Me first, I second, and I’m already the best there ever will be….
by Posluszny Pollocks on Oct 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn...
Merriman is the defensive version of Reggie Bush.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
That's an Insult to Merriman
Merriman at least had three dominant years before flaming out. Bush has always been a tease: showing glimpses of something special and never putting it together for any significant period. Merriman was arguably the best defensive player for three years, had a terrible injury, tried to rush a recovery, and never bounced back.
On the other hand…
Kim Kardashian > Tila Tequila
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends on how you look at it...
I was referring to injury only. You can say he had better years than Bush, which I would agree, but you could also say Bush had it better because he was never suspended for steroids.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Thanks
Yea they switch him around so much was hard for me to keep track. Well I think it’s a great opportunity for this kid. Don’t think he’s the prototype guy that nix is looking for but hopefully he can do some good for this enimic pass rush
by diehard12 on Oct 25, 2011 4:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Looks like Kaiser may be right in his opposition of the Merriman contract
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
No
All due respect he was right and not the only fan against Merriman’s signing. Bu hey, around here you gotta be positive and hey Merriman positively epically FAILED. Move on and stop signing “has beens”. Chan’s mess but Chan’s allowed to be human and make mistakes. That said don’t do it again Chan!!:)
by buffalobacker on Oct 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Think you mean Buddy's mess.
Buddy signed him. Chan tried to get him to work into the defense. With some success, I would say.
"Teams that don't deserve to win.... Usually don’t. Today is no exception." -- Mr Huge Pecs
"Nick Barnett is everywhere. He is behind you right now." -- Munchausen
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Oct 25, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Merriman Helped a Lot
Shawne Merriman brought Nick Barnett and Kirk Morrison to Buffalo. Most of us hoped he’d stay healthy for the full season, but if all he did was bring in the best inside backer the Bills have had in years, we should all say God Speed and get well soon!
Thanks Shawne! We know you tried.
by swampdog #1 on Oct 25, 2011 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Good call swampdog
Forgetting his lack of input on the field, he did seem to have a positive effect on this team at least in some form. I think the issue with Shawne is not that he failed in his attempt to get back to his former self, but rather that the Bills literally put all of their pass-rushing eggs into his basket.
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
I bet He taught the Young Guys Too...
I remember him taking a few minutes in the pre-season to show Ed wang some techniques. I’m sure Moats, Batten and others learned some things from him.
He really tried to help improve the Bills.
Hopefully they learned how to stay healthy.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 25, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Good points, he also brought a bit of an edge that had been lacking on D.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
Cool
So Merriman’s contribution was measured off the field? Great, boy Buffalo should sign TO heard he has a few friends looking for work! Bottom line the Merriman signing was a failure, other signings aside!
by buffalobacker on Oct 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And it only cost us Ralph's money!
Rookies are like teabags...you don't know what you're gonna get until you put them in hot water. -Harry Neale
I definitely think the Bills will draft an OLB in either the first or second round next year. Kelsay is playing better but is getting old. The second year men, Moats and Batten still have a bit to go in development. Merriman has talent, but in the last 4 years he has ended up on IR. If he can stay healthy next year great! Otherwise, pass rush is a top 2 pick need.
I know a lot of people are taking an attitude of “blah blah what did you expect” and talking almost like this guy is garbage, but I’m still very happy with the signing. He played well when he was in there and I think you have to give him some credit for helping forge the attitude of the defense, and certainly for helping bring in Barnett and Morrison.
I’m pretty bummed out about this news but I can’t say I’m shocked.
by paxon on Oct 25, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Might as well bring him back for training camp
what with the large rosters and all. Maybe he tears it up again and stays healthy…of course he’d have to come back for cheap at this point.
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Let's see how he works out then, at least.
If he’s shaky, sadly we have to cut him.
I like the guy, too. So it’s hard for me to say that. But we do better with Moats (a definitely-still-learning but healthy guy) than we do with him hurting so often.
"Why so serious?... so raise your glass if you are wrong/in all the right ways..." -- P!nk
by Orlando John on Oct 26, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Vernon Gholston? Everette Brown?
I’m wondering why these guys aren’t being talked about more. I mean I’m sure Coleman is a nice guy and all but he was a late round pick…hardly played…and was stashed on the Giants p.s. for most of this season. I hardly expect him to come in and help out, even as a rotational player.
I know both Gholston and Brown didn’t cut it with their original teams but sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders for a player. Both of them certainly have more upside than Coleman. Hell if Maybin can get 3 sacks with the Jets then I’m sure one of these 2 guys can come in and do something here.
As for Merriman, thanks for helping recruit some great players and giving your all every game. I wish you a quick recovery and hopefully someday you can return to form.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Cuz Gholston and Browne got paid
And don’t WANT to play the game
Coleman wants to play the game – dude was pretty tough off the edge at Auburn.
He can play on passing downs for us
How do we know that about Brown? There’s a huge dropoff in pay from 1st rounders to 2nd rounders. I’d give Brown a shot at being a PRS even if he is a bit of a run liability.
by NordicBillsfan on Oct 25, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure you can make that assumption
Maybe being released and not having any interest from other teams could have lit a fire under either/both of these guys butts. I’m not saying they will be allstars or anything but I believe they have higher ceilings than Coleman. Give it a shot…if they show anything then great if not…cut them.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Vernon Gholston? Everette Brown?
I’m wondering why these guys aren’t being talked about more.
because they suck?
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.....rec'd
Don't fear the Reaper......fear The Beard
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
they didn't work out
with the teams that drafted them but are they really any worse than Coleman??
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Almost makes you want Maybin back?
Four games
three sacks
three forced fumbles
(w/ very limited playing time)
i never wanted
Maybin gone. I think he deserved this year as a chance. He’s getting his sacks with the Jets.
by Fernando brazil on Oct 25, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Alll plays if people would just stop reading stat boxes. They would realize that.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All plays where garbage.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sacks don’t mean anything if you’re not an every down impact player. Bruce Smith had to be accounted for in all aspects as a defensive player. Maybin might get sacks, but he was not the game-changing type of player they needed.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 25, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
The man’s build makes him a VERY specialized type of player, he’s pretty much a pass-rushing DB in LB’s clothing. Stick him in 56’s spot and watch everyone run on him and manhandle him all day.
"Why so serious?... so raise your glass if you are wrong/in all the right ways..." -- P!nk
by Orlando John on Oct 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Please. Enough about Maybin!
He got three lucky sacks for the Jets. Fine. Let’s even pretend they were good sacks. He was not a good fit in Buffalo. We wanted to be stouter against the run, and a very underweight OLB that can only be used in limited pass play packages did not deserve a roster spot. Not to mention Gailey didn’t draft him (so they had no link to him), AND (people are forgetting this) HE SHOWED NOTHING. Glad he’s gone.
Meanwhile they’re giving up more yards per carry this season than last season. At least I thought I read that on the blog.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 25, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
We face a pretty hefty running back situation all season. By far one of the hardest run defense schedules of the season.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They still stink at stopping the run.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 25, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but I also believe we held most guys under there average per game at time. Plus how great was it gonna get in one season . With the rb load we had coming
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 7:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Merrimann might be done!
Unfortunately, because it seems that he has not played for the past 3 years and has been ravaged by an assortment of injuries. His best days are behind him, similar to T.O., and Bills should focus on draft and younger free agents. We found Kyle Williams and other players that route – Fred Jackson.
Egg on their face
and one of the main reasons I continue to vote negatively in the Nix polls. Who couldn’t see this coming? It’ll go largely ignored by the general fanbase because the offense (really Fred Jackson) has been awesomesauce, but i’m really fed up with the LB situation for this team.
Barnett might be the best move they made, but…
Merriman. Good grief.
Moats moved inside because he’s the wrong sized bear.
Carrington moved to LB (yuck)
Apparently Andre Davis played some games this season. Could have fooled me.
This defense is no better than it was last year, aside from 8 lucky INTs they made via two talented QBs.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The lack of attepting to fix this woeful aspect of the team....
is what should be most disappointing. Claiming Merriman was a small start, but following that up with nothing else and no backup plan just shows how terribly inept “the plan” is/was. You don’t neglect the pass rush for multiple seasons when it was atrocious to start with. Besides QB and maybe blind side pass blocking, no area is more important for a team’s success.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So far this goes largely ignored because we are 4-2 not 0-6. But sure, you can make the Merriman the main thing, and vote accordingly…
As for Fred, he’s got holes to run through this season. Deny it all you want, but more than Fred is playing better for the offense to be this productive. Fitz is, the line is, Nelson is, Chandler is… all things you want to wipe away so you can denigrate the teams improvements and harp on things like Carringont (who cares) and Andra Davis (who has actually been spoken of positively many times as a positive influence on Shep, gettin him up to speed).
Those lucky ints you love were more than a few times caused by pressure (gasp! can it be?!?!?) and d-line play.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Oct 25, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yup – offensive line and WR are both playing far above expectations. QB and RB are as well.
Nix is building from the inside out on both lines with beef. TAT says who didn’t see this coming – well I guarantee that a majority of the fan base would say our offensive line would be the worst in football prior to the season starting – heck I think even Kurupt said it a few times yet that’s not the case at all.
you try and fix positions as you can – with things you have to work with – once you start forcing positions or prioritizing them you have a boom or bust effect for your team. The smart move is to build your team with solid core players then once you’re ready you “splash” on a few guys.
Nix and Gailey and every single person at OBD including the janitor knows they need pass rushers – forcing the issue isn’t the answer though and it never will be.
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that Fred is doing things the way he has this season because of the line. At the same time, he’s a major force once that line is out of the picture.
Denigrate is a good word. However, I wouldn’t say i’ve chosen to leave out commentary on other things to behave as such in describing the team. And who cares about Carrington? I certainly do, and I know i’m not alone.
I like it better when you’re not attacking me as though my commentary is a reflection on you and your emotional investment in the team.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I never attacked you. I just thought your description was conveniently one-sided on a lot of things and pointed out why — I didn’t say your motives were biased or emotional in nature (you did that…).
Lucky ints and only fred jackson matter is a pretty polemic view of the bills. I’m not sure why that would be the way you’d want to marginalize some aspects of the team. But I’m not gonna get into the game of trying to explain YOUR emotional underpinnings. Just that I like to talk about all of the aspects of the team (good and bad), not just bad…
I say Carrington who cares, because nothing about Carrington has struck me too much, positive or negative. He’s been find when asked to kick outside and find at DE. Hence, who cares.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Oct 26, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They painted him as the focal point to their LB core.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 26, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You know
I’m strangely optimistic about this one for the future of the team. Merriman has said that he’s having surgery (which he probably should have had last year) which might make him worth keeping around next year but we get to really find out if any of the young guns have what it takes on the outside. If Moats can impress maybe they’ll stop talking about how short he is.
I wonder who they bring in to fill the position.
we're pretty much screwed rumblers
as amazing as our offense has been, our D or lack thereof will keep us out of the playoffs IF something drastic doesn’t happen like yesterday! This time of the yr is crunch time! Teams are not playing around now. Especially those vet teams who are always in the playoffs. It doesn’t matter how fast you get out of the blocks if you end up losing the race.
we’re pretty much screwed rumblers
no we’re not – it’s not like those guys were producing sacks anyways – i’m really not sure how much losing Merriman hurts our team – yet it seems like he’s been playing like Fred Jackson according to some here – he hasn’t really done squat has he?
The only way we’re screwed is if Fitz continues to regress – if he plays like he played the first 4 games of the season we’re fine.
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry for the negative tone
i was just venting. i’m trying to keep hope alive for our defense but it’s very difficult knowing the injuries we have stacked on our lack of quality depth.
Don't be sorry... you are right
The Pats are the Pats and the Jets are getting their act together. If the Bills want to make the playoffs, they are going to have get some quality minutes from the youngins
Don't fear the Reaper......fear The Beard
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad for us and I feel bad for shawn. Wish him the best and speedy recovery.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
by chaucer on Oct 25, 2011 8:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't understand all the hate
It was absolutely a gamble worth taking. I’m sure he didn’t make anywhere close to the value of the contract. He did bring in quality FA, even if he himself didn’t produce to our expectations. I’m sure most people expected him to come back to pro-bowl form, and have 15 sacks.
He has done a good job against the run. He has gotten some pressure.
The thing to be disappointed with is a lack of a plan B, if he didn’t pan out. But that is on Buddy Nix, not Shawne.
I hope he gets better, and I hope we don’t release him, until after next years training camp if we don’t have a better option by then.
Until that time, he is a Buffalo Bill, and at the very least he can still serve as a mentor to younger players, and a motovational speaker.
Is this your homework, Larry?
by Schooled You on Oct 25, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The thing to be disappointed with is a lack of a plan B, if he didn’t pan out.
ya – I don’t understand the notion that there was no plan B – did people forget about Danny Batten? When Merriman missed his first game Chan said they didn’t want him to start yet but they had to and he had to step up. Clearly the Bills were attempting to develop him behind Merriman and now he’s our plan B.
I’m not sure how that’s any different than Chris Hairston. Rebuilding requires young guys to get experience and that’s through veteran leadership and playing. Ask Kelvin Sheppard and ask Danny Batten that. I think the reason people are “jumping off a cliff” because no one expected us to be 4-2 and are saying we’re blowing our season when we’re really just still learning how to play and have a ton of young guys that still have a ways to go
by J2 on Oct 25, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I too will hold judgement....
on Merriman until next preseason…. But folks, the sky is not falling!!! His placement on IR is not the end of the world, but is in fact an opportunity for Moats and Batten in particular, and also brings back one of my favorite players in Coleman…
I know… too slow huh??? And that’s what folks said about FredEx, and Naaman a few weeks ago. It’s game speed that matters, and Antonio is another one with plenty of it….
It’s funny actually, that many were blaming Merriman for lack of an impact, but are now also predicting disaster because he’s hurt!!! Shawne, please ignore that crap, and I want to thank you for your leadership, and will of course pray for your full recovery and return to the Bills next season…
end of the world folks…. the same I’m sure that chastised Chix for moving Moats, “the savior at rush LB last season” to ILB…. He’s back?!!!! What will make you happy??
Personally, I think it could very well be Coleman and Moats as our future at OLB, and think they will be a pleasant surprise the rest of the way….
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
Coleman....
Aside from Merriman’s 15 preseason plays, Coleman looked like our best OLB this summer. Remember, It was a surprise to most he didn’t make the final 53. So, that’s a plus.
I like the fact that the gents had him on their practice squad as well. If there is any NFL team that knows pass rushing talent, it’s the g-men. Maybe Perry Fewell taught him something good and we’ll get the benefits from it, thanks Perry youfool! Mwa- ha-ha!
Played right into our hands, yes-in-didi……
Antonio Coleman, 6 sacks this season.
Go Bills!
PodunkO - The great post ender!
This made me smile thank you.
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by matthew62 on Oct 25, 2011 11:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kirk Morrison
Not sure why no one mentions trying him out as OLB. He was actually a good outside LB out of college and first year in Oakland. He’s very fast and not the traditional ILB thumper — a converted OLB into an MLB. He’s been a starting top vet for a long time, and no reason not to try him out, since he has experience there and I never understood why we got him if we weren’t goingto use him. A better OLB option then our 300 pound DLs.
by labill on Oct 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That was my thought too
"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420
by Blood, sweat & Win on Oct 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
merriman embraced the idea of playing in buffalo. i hope he recovers n plays well and injury free—whether here or elsewhere.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Merriman having surgery...Good, Get well.
I was hoping he could have made a full season of it. He may not have had the sacks the all Bills fans were expecting. But he did make a very big impact on containing the run game and providing pressure on the right side. This could be a very big loss in terms of attitude on the field.
It’s time for boys to become men: Moats and Batten especially. It may be necessary to get Antonio Coleman back. He has the size, speed, and knowledge of the Defense. Plus, it would give him more of a reason to shine and possibly land a full time job.
Coleman
Good to see him back and getting an opportunity. Sure to this point the Merriman experiment has failed but without the signing would the Bills have got Barnett or Morrison? This Bills resurgence is a sum of all the parts so I for one am not going to descry the management on this decision.
by Billsdownunder on Oct 26, 2011 5:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pass Rushing LB
We need a pass rushing LB in the draft.
Someone to play the other side opposite Moats. Let the Merriman project die.
We dont need him.
Some of the names people come up with for their kids start the kids out neck deep in social hell.
Disapointing
but what sometimes happens when you roll the dice.
4-1 w/56 in the lineup. Be interesting to see what roll he will now play.
"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420
by Blood, sweat & Win on Oct 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
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