Rebuttal: 3rd Down Long Passes Weren't A Bad Idea
I'm writing here just to respond to a lot of the rhetoric against the deep passes this week on third down. At first, I agreed with the criticism, but I've watched as it's evolved into this sort-of belief that anything past 10 yards on 3rd and 3 is a BAD IDEA. Now that, I think, is not just wrong -- it's a weakening of your offense. So let's discuss this...
First, you need to trust me when I say, I’m the guy in Madden who throws the slant over the middle or the tight end hook pattern on EVERY third down I need to pick up. I think it's important to say that, so that you know while I'm not totally being a devil's advocate here, believe me when I get the short timing pass on 3rd and 3. Or the slant out. Or whatever. I throw it in Madden about 90% of the time, because I know it will work 90% of the time. That’s the difference between Madden and the NFL, though. You can’t become that predictable in the NFL. It doesn’t mean you should go deep on every third and short, but even more than that it means that if you think it’s the best route you have for picking up the first down because the defense is clamping down over the middle, then go ahead and throw a few of those long ones. A slant or short route would have been a fantastic call. But the long passes Gailey was dialing up were also a fantastic call, particuarly because it communicates something to the defense -- that they can’t relax EVER. If we’d converted one or two of those, this wouldn’t even be a topic of discussion. The long pass in that situation does demand almost perfect execution from your offense. The protection has to be good, the throw has to be there, and the catch has to happen. True, the short slant isn't that demanding, which is why it's a higher percentage play, but what's also true is that it doesn't dictate to the defense in quite the same way. That's not being stressed as much as it should be around here this week. It really is an even trade.
I also realize that David Nelson was somewhat being taken away due to his effectiveness. That's also part of the equation, but it's beside the point that I want to discuss here. I just wanted to provide an alternate voice or a different slant on this opinion. I’m the last guy in the world I thought would be arguing against the possession route on 3rd down, but let’s be realistic. It’s not the call in this case that’s the problem.
Because it can succeed on literally every down and distance, the long pass is a valid play on ANY down when the coverage is deemed right. That's the point. It's got to be. It has to be part of the playbook rotation where you can at least trot it out as an audible at any given point in time. You can't be afraid of throwing it just because the down and distance and statistics dictate something else, or because you failed at it the last two times and it would look embarrassing to fail again. Do that, and the opposing defense has enough of an idea of your plans where they can attack you confidently. Was it sprinkled in a little much last week? Perhaps. The way I see it, Buffalo chose to attack where they saw the most prevalent weakness. That might be a weak silver lining, but I'll be damned if I don't take that misstep over gameplans that throw 1-yard passes to the flat on 3rd and 9. I'll err on the side of aggression before I'll call plays without a pulse any day.
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I tend to agree. Its easy enough to say get the first down the easy way. But if the defense is daring you with exploitable matchups outside and positioning the CBs to get the WRs to the outside then you have to punish them. This ends up opening up the middle of the field and the run game. It forces the safeties to pull back and the corners to step back. Suddenly you’ve got an explosive offensive again. We failed to execute these plays and Cincy kept us bottled up as result. I’ve seen teams do this to us before sometimes we open it up other time we miss a few and end up bottled up.
We punished New England REPEATEDLY on those sorts of tight man-to-man match-ups and its a big reason we came back to win.
It just goes to show how one or two high throws or dropped passes can change the tenor of the game.
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Yes, but when Fitzy is a little off all day and it’s not working, it becomes a bad idea. Plus, “go” routes are not the strength of our receivers or this offense. You go to your clutch plays and routes in clutch situations. I wouldn’t have a problem with it as a “sometimes” play, but it’s beginning to happen way too often. Teams are daring us because it isn’t working all that much.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Oct 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
I agree. Plus a few of those 3rd down throws would of been fine if the WRs hadn’t dropped the balls. And then like you said, we wouldn’t be talking about bad play calling today. I think it’s Matt Williamson on Football Today that said something to the effect of “There is no such thing as a bad play call” where he was talking about if a play works, its praised, if it fails its criticized. And there is no such thing as a bad play call, you just need to execute the play properly.
If the defense knows that you won't even consider going deep on 3rd down and short
They will stuff the short passing lanes and clog up your ability to get those patterns to succeed.
The long pass has to be on the table.
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by Dyl on Oct 4, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
neither agree nor disagree with the sentiment, but none of it is quantifiable – to determine whether or not it’s a good move, what is the % chance of success on a vertical route vs what is the % chance of success on either a slant, screen, draw, standard run, etc.
Of course, I say this fully realizing I’m way too lazy to do this type of analysis… I will say that I don’t mind a vertical route once in a while there, especially if your receiver is in single coverage, but… Fitz is a pretty inaccurate thrower of a deep ball and Jones doesn’t win single coverage matchups enough to keep trying that (not sure about Smith becuase he’s been on the field for about two plays this season!)
Good read and good points
But I disagree. The point is to score, and to do that drives need to be sustained.
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The Bills also ran short routes on third and short and on third and medium this past game. They just didn’t execute. It is all about executing. You know that. I think the Bills were correct to throw the ball deep. Especially if they saw a tendency or something that they thought that they could exploit. If you still decide to throw the ball short when they are giving you the longer routes then you are just running into the teeth of the defense. Not smart in my opinion.
I haven't studied it, but I'd give a month's pay on a bet that on 3rd and less than 10, anything over 15 yards is way lower in completion percentage and less than 15 yards.
I’d also argue that 10-15 yard completions got a much higher percentage of the conversion.
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