Some Week 8 Thoughts
So that game was pretty, uh, not memorable, eh? The Bills bested the Redskins 23-0 on Sunday in front of a decent sized crowd, that made some noise for the good guys, yet it still felt very sterile and sleepy. I don't care, though. A win is a win is a win. The Bills defense played some great football, finally found a pass rush and the team overall just overwhelmed a poor team. That's what the good teams need to do. This week's game against the Jets is a season turner. Either the Bills continue their ascent up, or the Jets slap them back to reality and back down the standings. This game is absolutely huge; a win would go a long way towards securing a playoff berth later on. A loss will make it very difficult to overcome the Pats, Jets, Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals for a spot in the dance. The team is 5-2 and I almost feel this is going to be a must-win Sunday, but I digress. Let's take a look back at some of the more memorable moments and players from Sunday's win.
- After securing his new contract, Ryan Fitzpatrick played an efficient, yet somewhat quiet game. If a 262 yard, 2 TD, 9.7 ypa game can be considered quiet, this was it...not that that was a bad thing. Fitz found some mismatches (Jackson just before the half) and took advantage of what was there. This game didn't require a fast paced approach, nor did it require much downfield passing. The Bills were in control for most of the game and Fitz led the offense that way. That's fine by me, but this week against the Jets will require some bigger plays, while sticking with the efficiency.
- Fred Jackson has to be the MVP, right? Or at least #2 behind Aaron Rodgers. He's just simply awesome and does everything really well. He has good vision, makes big plays, gets the extra yards, picks up the blitz, catches the ball well, makes guys miss and has the respect of every player in the stadium. You can't ask for much more out of a player and his production is testament to his hard work, preparation and dedication to becoming one of the best. I hope he gets his new contract and plays well for the next handful of years. If ever a guy deserves a new deal simply for past work, it's Freddie.
- It sure was nice to see Scott Chandler back in the game play. With a guy that big causing a mismatch against whoever he plays, he can be a weapon for this offense. I loved the flag pattern for the second touchdown, as it was a thing of beauty. I'd love to see more of that because Chandler runs well enough and it's hard to overthrow him.
- Is Stevie Johnson nothing more than a possession receiver? He seems to very rarely go downfield anymore, other than the occasional quick fly (see Giants game). Has there been a lot of bracket coverage over the top? Does he draw extra attention underneath opening it up for other receivers on his side? Is he simply much better at the shorter routes and picking up first downs? I'd love to see him used more downfield in order to take advantage of his wiggle and ability to get open. The crossing pattern with him seems to have gone away as well. With news that Johnson may not be next up for an extension, it makes me wonder if the team doesn't view him as much more than a possession receiver who they'll find it hard giving a huge extension to. We'll see, but I don't feel that way.
- Stevie's Chan Gailey Halloween costume was fantastic.
- CJ Spiller made a helluva blocker to help spring Freddie on his long run. It was textbook positioning and sealing off his man, something you don't always see out of a WR, let alone a converted RB, so good on him. He also received ZERO carries for the second week in a row, and only has 2 short receptions. I know the WR position is decimated, but the fact that Chan Gailey just doesn't find ways to get him the ball more is pretty telling. You'd think we might see a reverse or a bubble screen or some way to get the ball in his hands. Instead, he's caught a handful of quick slants and dump offs, while going deep once or twice. Is this all we should be expecting out of him, good blocking as a WR and the occasional odd reception? For a team that still lacks explosive plays outside of Freddie, it sure would be nice to see them at least try to get Spiller the ball more in space. I guess there are reasons we aren't seeing that...
- I thought the OL played quite well, especially Andy Levitre against Brian Orakpo for the most part. The first sack was definitely Levitre's fault and Orakpo cleanly beat him and forced Fitz up into the middle of the line. Besides that, he played pretty well against a very tough player. You can't ask for much more than that out of your LG moving to LT. The run blocking was decent, and has been better at times this year, but this was definitely a game where the offense tried to control the clock with a lot of interior runs. They held up well in pass protection, as well. Fitz had plenty of time to throw all day. The second sack was on a 7-man rush where the interior really collapsed. Tough play to defend.
- It sure would be nice to get Demetrius Bell back this week, and maybe Chris Hairston too. The Jets are more than good enough, with Rex designing the plays, to take advantage of Levitre.
- Wow, we actually had a pass rush for once! Sure, the team was aided by a bad Redskins' OL, but they certainly took advantage of it and got pressure all game long. I loved that and with it could happen more often.
- John Beck is the pits. He is the absolute worst and just excruciating to watch. I don't know if he was worse in this game or the game with the Dolphins back in 2007. The guy has no pocket awareness and just doesn't know when to get rid of the ball. I'm glad the Bills got to face somebody like that.
- I sort of called out Marcell Dareus last week for his lack of impact plays. I'm glad I did! He had a great game and was disruptive all day long. That's the guy we need in this defense, especially for the rest of this year. We need a guy moving the interior around, collapsing the pocket and clogging holes in the running game. We only saw that sporadically throughout the first six games, but Dareus really exploded this week. He really looked great at NT, which makes me wonder what will happen when Kyle Williams is healthy again. Will they keep Dareus at NT? Move him back out to DE? Roll with 4 DL? None of the above? I just hope Dareus can continue with some stellar play in the coming weeks. This defense needs him.
- It was nice to see Arthur Moats generating some pressure off the edge. Somebody needs to step up and slowly but surely, it may be (and may have to be) Moats.
- Outside of Dareus and the pass rush, there wasn't much the Bills defense needed to do. The Redskins are that bad. Their running game was non-existent with the mediocre Ryan Torain not doing much behind a poor OL. I'm surprised they didn't give Roy Helu more opportunities.
- It was nice to see Jairus Byrd make plays all over the field. His sack and his interception were both things of beauty. I loved having him blitzing and hope we see more of that. George Wilson was his normal productive self and continues to impress. The Bills have one of the best safety duos in the NFL. They may not have the flash or overwhelming athleticism, but they are both very solid in all facets of the game with a good nose for the ball. It's obvious how much better they are for this defense than Donte Whitner was.
- Shutouts are always nice!
There's not much more to say about this one. It was a stinker and the Bills were simply the better team. It was nice having a game where it felt like the Bills were in control the whole game with very little worry about the opposition making a comeback.
The next two games are going to make or break the season IMO. A win over the Jets puts the Bills in great position in the AFC East and wildcard, while a loss could really make it difficult to overcome. With a tough road game against Dallas to follow, Sunday is going to be probably the most important game of the season. Win both of these games and the Bills are in excellent position, up at least 2 games on the Jets and at the top of the AFC. Win one (hopefully Jets, at least) and their position is still pretty good, while losing both would pretty much destroy all playoff hopes. I just hope the Bills come out and play emotional, balls to the wall football against the Jets this Sunday. Bring it, and prove to the league you are for real and are here to stay. And to top it off, sticking it to Rex and the Jets would be so sweet. Go Bills!
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This week is so huge.
I. Can. Not. Wait.
We need to see the D-line keep playing strong and regardless of where Spencer Johnson lines up, he needs to keep making plays.
Get after Sanchez!!!!
Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"
Toronto Crowd
The image that sticks in my head is Chandler wanting to do a leap into the stands after one of his TDs and a dad and his kid just kind of sitting there somewhat mystified as to what is going on. Not celebrating, just taking some photos enjoying a popcorn. As Chandler lumbers toward them the dad starts to look concerned “What is thisbehemoth doing?” and the kid looks frightened. The half-hearted leap barely got a response from the crowd. Not nearly the same enthusiasm.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
I saw that too. Pathetic.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 1, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Pathetic?
He was going to jump into the stands with a guy and his kid and nothing else. It wouldn’t have been like jumping into the front row of the Ralph, which is densely populated with rabid fans. The Toronto stands there have a mix of fans from different teams and the space he almost jumped into looked like an aisle anyhow…
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I guess this is my point, when my image is widely spaced fans, unexcited by a TD and of varying fan loyalties it sums up my impression of the Toronto crowd.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 2, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
In their defense, the father was taking a picture of the TD celebration and there was a guy in the row behind doing the best he could to reach out and grab Chandler. But other than that, I agree, sad.
Missed that. Haha. Fair enough.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 2, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
On S.Johnson’s not next up for a contract – Lombari said that Fred was next then Stevie after that – FWIW
Hope so
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
The article you linked was mentioning the franchise tag, but it doesn’t seem to make sense for the Bills to do that. I mean, Stevie would enjoy the $$ that comes with the fanchise tag, but what possible reason could they have for snagging him for only 1 more year?
The “Fred-first-then-Stevie” scenario does make more sense.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!
The franchise tag makes sense in that if they can’t come to a deal before free agency begins, you don’t even let him taste the water and you have more time to make a long term deal. Or you can just apply it more than once.
"We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electricity." -- Munchausen
Ideally you DONT use it. But the threat of it is often NOT ideal for a player because he want more long-term guaranteed money. One year huge salary is great, but if they get injured, that 4-5 year contract money is impacted. So having the franchise tag available is just one thing that can incentivize the sides to get a deal done before free agency.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
DL
When/If Williams comes back healthy, I want to see them scheme for both he and Dareus to play positions more natural to them. I know with 4 DL down, it might be difficult, but allowing Williams to be a penetrating NT while Dareus clogs up space in the middle, working to each of their strengths, could cause some serious problems for opposing OLs. It will be interesting to see what happens if Dareus stays at NT.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Possible trade??? I don’t think so, but who knows?
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!
Trade Williams?
Most likely not. They just signed him to that big contract, and it definitely wouldn’t help in the locker room morale department.
nice post
On Fitz – I agree with you, nice outing following his extension and if thats a quiet day for Fitz hes doing somethings right.
On Fred – He is hands down the MVP, at least in my opinion. Its rare that a non-QB gets it unfortunately with the way the NFL has made so you can’t touch WRs or QBs anymore.
On Levitre – I agree, he really stepped it up and while Hairston or Bell would be nice to have back I dont see Levitre as anymore exploitable than those two at this point. If he could handle Orakpo, Im not sure I fear he cant handle the Jets pass rush. Sure they have Rex Ryan but I dont really like their players.
On Stevie – I think teams arent scared of our other receivers after Roscoe and Donald Jones went down and Stevie not going deep is Chans response to try and get him the ball in his hands with the way defenses are keying on him.
On Marcel and Kyle – If Marcel keeps it up like he did in Washington they have to leave him at nose and plug Kyle elsewhere along the line. Thats not a knock on Kyle, I think he’ll be his usual self wherever, which allows the Bills to maximize other guys who may be more specialized in certain roles.
On Moats – our pass rush is so much better when they sic him on QBs
On safeties – I think they are the best duo in the NFL. Both are playing incredible in all facets.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
I’ve thought for a while about switching Kyle to end in the 3-4. What says we can’t? Cause he’s not traditional size for that position? He’s not the traditional size for NT and that didnt stop him from dominating the league last year. I say play him where it makes the whole line the best, and at this time, if he returns, playing Kyle Williams at end and Dareus at the nose is the best for the whole defense.
Our safeties have been extraordinary, but it’s hard to rate them ahead of Ryan Clarke and Troy Polamalu in Pittsburgh….
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
I agree with that logic on Kyle
considering how many guys on this team didnt have the traditional (insert quality here) to play QB, RB, WR, SS, OLB, I wouldnt put it past Kyle to be successful anywhere on the dline.
I hear you on the Steelers safeties, probably only duo that would challenge us for sure.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
by poz on Nov 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
true – but he’s not nearly long enough for a DE in a 3-4. At NT he can kind of get away with it but i’m not sure that he could translate as easily to a 3-4 DE because of his lack of length
by J2 on Nov 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention Kyle is a pure gap penatrator inside,
and on the outside, he wouldn’t always be able to simply explode into the backfield from the edge without giving up a gap. We are simply benefiting from the fact that Dareus played this same defense in college, and did plenty of matchup shuffling then. He simply is our best player on the line, when Kyle is injured. I would be ok with a four man front with both inside, before i would want to see Kyle on the outside. W the 4 man look, perhaps we could rotate kyle around a la Ngata… and see if we don’t have two (three counting spencer) solid performers who can play in or out, depending on the opponents weaknesses.
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On safeties – I think they are the best duo in the NFL. Both are playing incredible in all facets.
I continue to be impressed with Byrd’s tackling ability in the open field.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!
I'll take a "stinker" and a win all 16 weeks!
I agree with you hugely on this K regarding Spiller,
“Is this all we should be expecting out of him, good blocking as a WR and the occasional odd reception?”
The answer is “NO.” I think the kid can still provide us some explosiveness. But he can’t do it if he touches the ball twice a game.
Fred is a beast. Fred is the man.
But I think we can take advantage of that fact, because teams are now building their gameplans on stopping Fred, and put CJ into favorable matchups where he can blow up. Two touches a game will not produce the desired results.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 1, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
They shouldve given spiller more touches.
that was the thing i was disappointed with. Why not at the end of the game give him and white the carries instead of freddy. Also with stevie i think the reason hes not going deep is because he is getting double covered more often than last year and really there are no other deep threats on our team, except maybe Spiller, but that hasnt been proven. Hopefully they can get a deep one to spiller, (hopefully fitz makes the throw), to put it on tape to maybe get stevie more deep play opportunities.
Fitzmagic
the great thing about the start to this season (to me), is that the bills are going to keep getting better, and better, and better.
its only natural, so many young and inexperienced guys are all maturing and improving as individuals game by game.
regardless of how this season plays out, we have not yet seen nearly the best this group has to offer.
I agree that Fred should be MVP of the Bills but this far into the year, there is no way that he could be league MVP. Rodgers is playing out of his mind but I don’t even think he should be MVP. MVP should be Matt Forte. He is more to the Bears than Freddie is to the Bills. He is putting up better numbers than Freddie on an offense that only features one other good player (Cutler). I love what Freddie’s doing but what Forte is doing is absolutely incredible.
"We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electricity." -- Munchausen
I may have been a little too bullish on Forte now that I look at his numbers this morning. He should still be thought of in the running for MVP but I think I should wait until the end of the year to make anymore blanket statements.
"We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electricity." -- Munchausen
I sort of called out Marcell Dareus last week for his lack of impact plays.
I certainly understand where you’re coming from; you expect to hear his name a lot, especially as the 3rd overall pick. But playing the 3-4 DE position like he was all season (up until last week), you can’t expect big plays out of him every week. It’s not what that position calls for. If he’s penetrating into the backfield, or shedding his blocker to chase, he’s not doing his job, as he’s supposed to stand up the tackle and hold his gaps. That said, playing NT will afford him plenty of opportunity to make plays, so if he sticks there, I’m right there with you looking for impact plays out of him.
I may have scored a hundred points yesterday, but I scored a lot more off the court.
The Bills have one of the best safety duos in the NFL. They may not have the flash or overwhelming athleticism, but they are both very solid in all facets of the game with a good nose for the ball.
Again, I can’t help but recalling our previous conversations regarding elite talent. It is obvious to me, that we have a different standard for what qualifies in this league as elite. I personally can’t say for sure that George or Jairus are the BEST two individual safeties in the league, but together, as we saw in Jairus’ rookie campaign, they are surely one of the (if not THE) best tandems. I have been a big proponent for keeping these two on the field together, ever since their aforementioned burst of production, and was happy to see Whitner go, and learn that they would be able to tag team the back end (twss) because I always have felt it gives us our best opportunity at turnovers. Guys who are always around the football, making interceptions, and playing well in run support are few and far between, and I personally think it puts both in a class of talent similar to the best in the league, ergo… elite.
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