Cowboys 44, Bills 7: Wait, Buffalo Really Had Playoff Aspirations?
by Brian Galliford on Nov 13, 2011 3:58 PM EST
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The Dallas Cowboys absolutely obliterated the Buffalo Bills today, winning by a final score of 44-7. At no point during the 60-minute contest were the Bills even remotely competitive.
The defense stunk; they gave up 434 yards, including 317 in the first half alone. Tony Romo looked like a legend (23-of-26, 270 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 148.4 rating). DeMarco Murray ran unencumbered (20 carries, 135 yards, 1 TD). The Bills did nothing to disrupt the Cowboys' rhythm all day.
The offense stunk, too. Ryan Fitzpatrick (20-of-31, 146 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, 46.6 rating) was hit early and often. His receivers dropped passes, and for a second straight week, a Ryan brother and Chan Gailey combined to take Fred Jackson (13 carries, 114 yards; 4 receptions, 1 yard) out of the game completely.
The Bills team that has been blown out 71-18 in the last two weeks isn't close to being a playoff contender, and they're not any fun at all to watch on Sundays. Gailey told his players to prepare for this game as if it were the game that would earn them a playoff berth. Clearly, the 5-4 Bills don't know or have what it takes to get there.
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He doesn’t have much talent to work with. I don’t think it’s all on him.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
BS
Edwards is lousy! He has talent, just doesn’t know how to use it. Using DE’s as OLB’s is ridiculous as was basically stated on one of the NFL networks talk shows. How bout being a bit creative with your blitzes, instead of rushing a LB up the middle. I’ve studied his defenses carefully and his schemes suck.
What talent does he have to work with?
There’s a reason those DE’s are playing OLB. Yeah his playcalling stinks, but so does the talent he has to work with.
I agree he has been woefully inept in terms of getting creative and blitzing the opposition for the most part. Sitting back and letting teams push it downfield without any resistance is ridiculous.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I agree he has been woefully inept in terms of getting creative and blitzing the opposition for the most part. Sitting back and letting teams push it downfield without any resistance is ridiculous.
Shouldn’t this be enough reason? If his schemes looked half-ways competent, but the players were to shoddy to execute, that would be a different story.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
i dunno man. tough to be a defensive playcaller when ur defense can’t:
1) seal the edges in the run game
2) rush the passer
3) cover anybody
You can seal the edges
Move the OLB’s out and off 1 yard, edges sealed. There is always a way to stop something schematically. Be creative with your blitzes. You can’t ask the corners to cover when a QB has 6 -8 seconds to throw, come on.
And if the corners can't cover
send them on a blitz.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
ookkk but now ur stretching out ur defense a bit more up the middle… so theres more room for C and B gap runs…
im not asking the corners to stick to their guy like glue for 8 seconds, but i dont expect to see like 3 yards of separation on a simple 10 yard hitch, or get repeatedly burned on deep balls
Thats why
That why it’s a chess match out there, you constantly have to make adjustments. Maybe they should take a page out of the Ryan’s defensive playbook and jam the receivers at the line. You can’t keep getting gashed and do nothing. You stop it and force the offense to make adjustments. The whole key is to stay ahead of the offense and I just don’t feel like Edwards is that type of coach.
when spencer johnson is the one covering your outside receiver
moving him a yard off the ball isn’t helping anything. unless you want the receiver cutting across him.. like they did.
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by ThaRealTruth on Nov 13, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Probably true
But saying he has talent to work with is something I totally disagree with. There are some nice players (Wilson, Byrd, Barnett, Dareus, Carrington at times), but there are no real difference makers and the talent as a group is very weak. There’s no single player that offense’s need to scheme for and worry about. The biggest weakness is the same area that is most important (pass rush).
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I'll say this
If it were Rob Ryan or Dick LeBeau coaching that defense, they would move up at least 10-12 spots statistically. Edwards always is not very good at calling a game either, routinely gets caught.
by Coach Bob on Nov 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
won't even take one of them....
anyone but Edwards… This team DOES have talent on defense, or we have really screwed up the last 2 drafts, which NO ONE thought when we drafted these players!!!!
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
A lot of people thought (and still think) they screwed up last years draft pretty well. I happen to think that, but that’s probably more of an offseason discussion.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:43 AM EST up reply actions
There is no reason
No reason to use DE’s that large, period. Try coaching the young guys, move Sheppard out there, keep trying to improve, change the schemes to suit your talent. Don’t continue the status quo, its not working! Overload a side with a blitz, use a corner. I’ve seen no changes to the schemes which is what is bothering me.
Well, if you say he has nothing to work with, then fire Nix. Nix put all his eggs in the Merriman basket and didn’t add an outside linebacker, resigned Florence, signed Barnett, signed Davis, signed Morrison, drafted Troup, Carrington, Searcy, Moats, Batten, Dareus, Shepherd, and Williams as well as a few undrafted free agents (Heard). If these players are any good (even if they are inexperienced) there is no way this team should have looked as inept defensively as they have the past couple weeks. Either Nix has added bad players, or Edwards is awful at using them. I’m not saying the guys above (especially those drafted this year) are probowl talent, but this defense hasn’t even been competitive the last 6 quarters. That’s on the coordinator in my opinion. If something isn’t working, we need to try something else.
Also, anyone else get the feeling the Bills are going to add 1 or 2 physical bump and run corners next offseason?
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:41 AM EST up reply actions
regardless of talent
the following would be true regardless of this game: I have to say Spencer Johnson against Ogletree as a clear mismatch to us. I have to say that the one time Naaman was targeted, he was effective. I have to say that even though Jackson is a top five back, he gets a third of the opportunities, and we are in spread formation not only on run downs, but in run situations. I have to say that the approach and adjustments needed on offense aren’t occurring (we insist on employing the same strategy even when we have been neutralized- if nelson and steve are blanketed, where are flat and intermediate crosses? i saw more drags and short to intermediate crossing routes being employed, though not being utilized because Fitz locked in on his receivers) and we still can’t stop the run. we need OLBs that can both cover and play the run, and spencer johnson/alex carrington/ kelsay aren’t cutting it, healthy or not. we need to consider shepp or morrison on the outside or something, and we definitely need some (effective) man corners before we are gonna be a playoff anything. Florence holds when beat (hopefully at least. otherwise he gives up the score) and McKelvin has finally worn out his welcome to me. i am done with him. That leaves a declining McGee, and Williams as the only CB i can fully support, who is still a rookie.
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by ThaRealTruth on Nov 13, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why stop at the comments.....let's close down the site while we are at it
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by Joe P. on Nov 13, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why? Because people are going to criticize the team after an awful game like that? If you can find a ray of sunshine….by all means.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
At least in Boston
they had the good sense to switch the game away in the 3rd quarter (37-7) and show the rest of the PIT-CIN game instead
by paythemannow on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
It’s tough being a Bills fan right now.
All of does who disrespect us and come to our Holly ground will be knock to king dome come and turn to dust in the wind This is our House Holly to the Buffalo Nation. ~abayarde
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Right now?
It is tough being a Bills fan ever. Never in the history of the organization have they ever been anything but emotionally painful. Seriously.
Here.....
It’s tough being a Bills fan right now.
Fixed it for you :-)
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Thanks Joe!
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Tell us how you really feel Brian.
Two eggs in a row is not the way to do a play-off push.
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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Nov 13, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions
Like I said, should have waited to dish out 60 million to Fitzy until the end of the season
Was it all his fault….no the defense is awful, but he played very poorly. His receivers did drop passes but a lot was on him today as he could not get the offense in synch at all. Fred avg 10 yards a pop almost, still the only decent playmaker on this offense
by csc06258 on Nov 13, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good to know
Like I said, should have waited to dish out 60 million to Fitzy until the end of the season
that I’m not alone…..where where you when I was getting killed for saying the same thing?
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Go look for me I was in there, along with every other move this horrible organization makes via free agency and the draft. Its sad that a Medical Student who really doesn’t know “that” much about football could have drafted better and made better decisions for the last 10 years. I wish I could share all of my draft picks with you over the last 10 years…People reem me all the time even though I continue to be right…you just have to live with this fan base. Its a great fan base because no matter who we draft or sign people are always try to stay positive about that player, but enough is enough after a while and I start to get real annoyed with people telling me I’m wrong even though we are all family here
My argument for the extension they gave is that it’s middle of the road and doesn’t eliminate the possibility of adding a guy and having him sit for a year or two. Fitz is middle of the road and he got a middle of the road contract.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:45 AM EST up reply actions
I want to be optimistic.
I just can’t be about them this year.
That D would be ripped up by UCF this year. The O is definitely not able to make up for that, and tell you the truth, would we be any happier with 41-28 than we were with this? Well yes, but I’d bet you it’d be negligible.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
Agree
With the previous comments. . . Now to ignore the media for the next week.
by twissyjujub on Nov 13, 2011 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
looks like I'm shunning all sports shows for the week...
can’t watch espn until the bills win again.
Sorry to say but way to many shades of 2008. I’d rather get a top 3 draft pick from this season then go 8-8.
yeah, but our QB now went to Harvard instead of Stanford... a much better school...
three years down the line…we’ll have a QB from Brown or Princeton starting.
We gave this guy 57 mil fitz sucks another bad move that will sink us for another 3 yes smh
by beezwright on Nov 13, 2011 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather go 8-8
Really, I’d rather do that and look like we know how to execute in some games, I’m estimating nine or ten (Cincy and NY kind of looked like we knew what we were doing) if that’s the case, then think we’re going to be bottom dwellers for the rest of my life.
Because remember how some of the teams with recent #1 picks are doing. The Rams are crap, took a good while to make anything out of Detroit, the Panthers need more than Cam for sure.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Better get used to it
I’d rather get a top 3 draft pick from this season then go 8-8.
We will be going 8-8 as long as we have an 8-8 QB.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
by Joe P. on Nov 13, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No good
Sad thats the only work that needs to be said couldnt watch cause im working but told the wife to delete the recording. Cant believe that we r really this bad just blows my mind what the hell is this team doing in order to prepare for games will be lucky to beat the dolphins
THIS is the limits of my despair, though.
We ARE going to beat them at least at home, probably both times. The Dolphins suck hard. VERY hard.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
2008 all over again
Two straight run for the bus efforts. I withdraw my Approve vote for Gailey.
Woods injury typical for a bad team. He was daydreaming going to where the interception was and paid the price.
How bad was Troup, they ran through him like he wasn’t even there. Moats played like a traffic light with a green arrow, they turned his corner so may times. I have to sign off, my kids just came home.
Okay, finally giving in on one point.
If we’re 5-9 let’s IR people who could use it and rest up for next year. I think we’ll pull a 6-10 anyway because this team won’t outright quit, though.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
The team has been totally unprepared the last two weeks
How is that possible? Players not making plays…coaches not adjusting…or even looking prepared..
Brutal
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What happened to Stanford norcal?
At least my Ducks are looking good down the stretch :)
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
That was the worst game they played in 3 yrs
The ducks are a bad matchup for the cardinal. Too much speed…
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oregon did last night what I wished the Bills could have done today………Well at least I had a good Saturday :)
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Chip Kelly is a much better coach then David Shaw anyways..
Had Harbaugh been there would have been a different game…plus Stanford is really banged up…not having Skov hurts a lot
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chip Kelly is a much better coach
I’d trade him for Gailey anyday if the visor wanted to try the NFL.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Had Harbaugh been there would have been a different game
I just knew he was gonna be an awesome NFL coach. I sure wish Ralph could have lured him to Buffalo.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t Harbaugh hate Kelly and Buffalo?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
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by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
who cares?
kelly will never be a coach…..
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I guess what I meant was Harbaugh would never come to Buffalo
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
What's happened
Whats happened is the rest of the league has caught up. Gailey has to try and install some deeper routes. At one point Dallas had 10 guys within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage with one safety back. You are not going to run or short pass against that. Have the Bills run one post pattern this season. Gailey is smart enough to throw some new wrinkles in. The defense, however, is terrible, specifically their 3rd down defense. Unfortunately, Edwards isn’t smart enough to help and really needs to be canned!
by Coach Bob on Nov 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Partly true.....the rest of the league has figured out what Fitz can and can't do
plus our Oline isn’t as great as everyone hoped it was, especially with Levitre at LT
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
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by Joe P. on Nov 13, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or with urbik at center and brown at guard
which was a fear i addressed earlier in the week. we basically are just saying “we are going to do what we do” and the opponent is saying “Nope.” and they are right, and we are wrong. we need to adjust the approach, or we will continue to struggle. 13 touches for Fred? How many do AP, Forte, or fill in any top tier HB get for touches? probably more than 13, especially when averaging 7-8+ yards. Ridiculous. No excuse.
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by ThaRealTruth on Nov 13, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
He needs receivers capable of consistently getting separation on deep routes, a QB capable of being accurate on deep routes, and a O-line capable of blocking for deep routes. He doesn’t have any of those.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:47 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t even
I had a drink the other day
Opinions were like kittens
I was giving them away
-Modest Mouse
by oompaloompa on Nov 13, 2011 4:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ryan Fitzpatrick
The 60 million dollar mistake.
What a waste of cash………
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
really a big mistake
pay him now. No reason to not expect the end of the season to negotiate really knowing what you have. If the Dolphins hire Rob Ryan as their HC we will have no chance playing against the two brothers four times a year.
Donald Jones is awful. He has no hands, and like i said before in pre season, Roosvelt is better than him. We need another WR to play alongside Stevie, who is the real deal but Nix don’t re-signed him yet.
Our OLBs are weak. Moats is a 4-3 DE pass rush especialist, nothing more. Spencer Johnson is a DT!!!! Batten is weak. We need a stud 1st rounder here next draft. Maybe Upshaw or Jenkins from Florida state.
Aaron Williams needs to get back and play. put the kid in. He will not do worse than our 3 guys who are playing.
Troup is a joke.
Fred is a BEAST
CJ Spiller is a wasted pick. i feel sorry for him, because he will never have a chance with fred playing like that. i like him, but if we had picked Pierre Paul, wow.
by Fernando brazil on Nov 13, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Bills
The Bills need a speed receiver to stretch the field along with an OLB who can rush then passer. Throw in a left tackle and corner and we will be ok!
Almost my order of priority...
And I’d actually go with that order in the draft, considering. Hairston shows promise, though, but we need some bloody depth or maybe someone who can challenge him for the future.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
won't help unless we have an Oline
to protect the QB long enough for the WR to get deep and a QB that can get it there.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
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by Joe P. on Nov 13, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wow, really?
everyone is flipping out and over reacting over two games, albeit bad losses, but still there are 16 games to a season. We are still 5-4 and have a pretty easy schedule coming up: Mia 2x, Ten, Sd, Den..which should all be wins and then sprinkle in tough matchups with the jets and pats. We win the games we should and drop those two games, then we still end up at 10-6. So, if we get a win in Mia and then Jersey in two weeks, then where will everyone be? This is a very very young team who are facing some key injuries right now. I really think Shawne Merriman made a huge impact regardless of what the stats say. Him and Kelsey could set the edges for barnett/wilson to get 10+ tackles. I am not a bandwagon jumper and definitely sticking to this team in this low point! Fitzy is still on pace for almost 4k yds and 30 tds, remember that jumpers..
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 14, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Unless the Bills get their acts together, the Chargers and Titans will handle them. They aren’t horrid. And I think Tebow will give the D fits. I just don’t see them being disciplined enough to play against him well enough to win. And, trust me, I’m not a Tebow fan.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
Reality sinking in!
Let’s fact it, the Bills had two wins because they interecepted Brady and Vick “four” times. This team is still a good 1-2 drafts away from being a playoff contender. Their is no pass rush, and I think it is time to label McKelvin another bust from the Jauron years and also get rid of Terrence McGee. They still need another receiver and some help on the offensive line, although the one bright spot this year, Eric Wood, went down.
by BuffaloWhiner on Nov 13, 2011 4:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This team is still a good 1-2 drafts away from being a playoff contender
And a franchise QB, because Fitz is obviously not one.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
He IS making it difficult to defend him
But the playcalling and the fact that he was thrown in a deep hole gives me just that spark of hope it’s not him. It’s not entirely the pressure that he is indisputably the Bills’ guy until the end of next season, it’s the pressure that he is getting no help whatsoever from the defense. Still… He really needs to make a believer out of you next week to keep me believing.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ya I'm not completely blaming Fitz either.
Bell can’t stay on the field.
Hairston’s been injured for a while now too.
Levitre is being forced to play out of position.
How is Fitz supposed to succeed with this as well as Steve Johnson having a bad groin since Training Camp and Donald Jones being injured for 4 weeks (and playing like crap since he’s been back).
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
Fitz with a solid line does well. We know this, we’ve seen a solid line and him this year. (Really, did anyone think we’d be missing Bell this hard?)
Next year… well let’s bring Roscoe back to camp, and get some more depth inside and out. And then let’s see what we’ve got then.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
No way….let Roscoe go and sign or draft a true #2 receiver and let Nelson be the slot guy and everyone else (Jones, Roosevelt and Co.) compete for the scraps.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
I say one from contender.
Two from Super Bowl, whether loss or win.
The D needs work though.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Provided
We keep guys like Stevie and Fred!
Exactly!
Ryan, Stevie, David Nelson and Fred are keepers in my opinion.
Donald Jones needs to prove himself to me, slightly less than Naaman does.
CJ needs to find a role or look pretty for trade bait. (I think three fourth round picks are worth an additional second, right? And still the same amount of picks one would expect in four rounds, just better.)
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
This may just be me but
This little success seems to be getting to Fred’s head. If a deal doesn’t get done by the end of the season, I bet he’ll test the market and be more inclined to part ways. Don’t let Snyder get involved if we don’t re-sign him this yr. We all know he will throw the bank at players!
Getting to his head?
He’s arguably the best player on a professional football team with over $100 MILLION to spend on players and he makes about 1.5% of the amount of money that has to be spent on 54 players.
Pay the man. He more than deserves it.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
*53 players
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
not saying he doesn't deserve it...
i believe he deserves it way more than fitz does. im just saying i see something in him in interviews etc that lead me to believe he may be a bit high on himself. no doubt he’s the man for this team, but i just don’t think our team knows how to handle even the slightest bit of positive media exposure. maybe getting our butts handed to us these past 2 weeks will bring us back to a place where we play with a chip. we’ve been outclassed and out man’d.
he's still under contract after this year...
he is not going anywhere
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 14, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
?????????
McGee tackles well, and Levitre has been at least as good as Wood all year.
McGee actually had a hell of alot better game then Florence. Drayton was getting schooled all day by a bench reciever.
CRAP!!!!
Eric Wood, went down.
What happened to Wood? I was hunting all day and didn’t see the game beat down
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Hurt his knee
Will be out for the Miami game…unknown how much longer after that.
Punt?! In our moment of triumph?! I think you overestimate their chances!!
Chan Gailey to Brian Moorman
by TexasBillsFanatic on Nov 14, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Edwards has to go.
Girls use hair spray, Men don't.
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND GROW UP BY NOT USING HAIRSPRAY MALES!
Don't be a Paully!
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 13, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
can't wait for the next poll...
what a change that’s gonna be…already dissaproving right now, I can envision it in my head.
that 60+ yard punt in the first half
was a beastly kick
not professionalism
he’s just tired of screens in general :P
WAIT
C’mon, its because we haven’t finished paying everyone lots of money for being mediocre yet!! After we finish doling out millions to players mid season or after a bad season…we’ll be back on track!!!!
Okay, here's the weird thing.
Kelsay. We gave a lot of crap to that extension. And yet doesn’t the D at least show up when he’s on the field? It’s even, dare I say it, good on occasion.
And Merriman was actually at least causing a lot of holds and taking some attention. There is that. (Which is not a lot. Okay, he was a waste of cash.)
Maybe we do have most of the pieces. But I’ll go with McK needing to put up or get sent home, for sure.
Hell. I think we’ll win a few games down the stretch. Playoffs… we will need a lot of help…
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Kelsay was playing pretty solid. Laying a lot of lumber.
Still not elite by any means. But better that what we have now.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. We’ve seen that he can be a good player, a solid player. Which actually increased my confidence in Chix a lot. Shawne… was probably ’let’s give the guy a shot for an actual season’.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
stout at the point of attack
and he sets the edge.
que the cliche machine…
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
He’s got a high motor
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
great locker room presence
never gives up on a play
What do you think they’ll do in the second half?
Uh, I think they’ll come out and try to score some points right away.
Oh, you don’t think that they’ll try to lose the game intentionally then?
No, I think—
—Oh shut up!
—The late great Richard Jeni
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dont know exactly what ur getting at here. im not sure what fitz’s contract had to do with today’s game
And even combined with Chris "We're Actually Missing The Big Lug" Kelsay
It still doesn’t work.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
in other news, Rayner sucks...just thought I'd throw that out there...
well, at least he got touchbacks unlike Lindell.
Is that a good thing?
Lindell was hanging it up on purpose. It’s even been established.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
well, you got me there...
besides against Mcknight…there was always an opportunity to knock the football out of the returners hands
Or pin them.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Bills haven’t been that great on covering or returning kickoffs all season, so for every time they stop a guy at the 18, he’ll get to the 30 later. So yes, I’d say touchbacks are good.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
they’re not any fun at all to watch on Sundays.
A truer statement has never been said.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not even not fun. Actually depressing. I didnt think my weekend could get worse after last night but I am thoroughly depressed.
I really rather WOULD watch the Bengals and Giants games...
than this.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Another note I forgot.
Make Florence inactive next week.
I don’t care how much better he is than Rogers or Corner or Williams.
Make Florence inactive so it lights a fire under his unproductive %$$.
he produces just fine for the opponent.
ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE
by ThaRealTruth on Nov 13, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
ive never seen a game that was over after 1 offensive play
that was a tough one to stomach. bills didnt even belong on the same field as the cowboys today.
i didnt even think fitz played all that poorly. his missed deep ball to jones was the only play (while the game was still kind of in reach?) that had me pulling my hair out.
the receivers (jones, johnson) played like absolute garbage
and why, please tell me why, chan gailey refuses to lean on fred jackson from the start of the game. why is our offense not centered completely around our best player. we all knew the bills this game from the very first offensive snap
Chicago finally figured it out.
They quit the BS Mike Martz crap and have been feeding the machine Forte.
And winning.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
The other reality setting in – Miami by no means looks like an easy out and we could easily be the worse team in the AFC East by season’s end.
We beat the Skins worse, though.
Take that for what you will.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Well, we'll never know...
Oh, let’s just see what happens next week. I’m personally sure we’ll be 6-4 after it, so what we need to see is how we look doing it.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not Prepared
Did anyone notice…Fitz on our 1st and only TD was forcing the ball to David Nelson? Just so he can have his little moment. This team is not focused at all, don’t know what happened.
Did losing two key leaders, Merriman and Williams kill our focus, no leadership in the locker room???
I was ok with Fitz forcing the first one...
fine he’s your buddy this means alot to him…but after that you have to give it Freddie…this game meant alot to him also considering he used to live where the stadium was built…this team is just lost.
I like watching Fred Jackson play and Gailey only allowed me to do so on 17 plays. I also do feel that Dallas bottled Jackson up. Gailey did.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST reply actions
it was pretty upsetting.
I know we were down 7-0, 14-0, but in the first half? even 21-0 is still viable run-first territory.
Don’t know what was going on with the game plan.
Don't, you mean?
Exactly. Pass to set up the run, that’s what our aim should be with this lineup!
I don’t know, he should know this team by now.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I meant “don’t”.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 13, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I proceeded on that assumption, thanks. :P
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they didn’t bottle him up…over 100 yards on 9 carries is not bottling him up. Yes, the short passing game was not working with Freddie, but he was running alright.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Didn’t see the game. Based on FredEx’s stat line, it sounds to me that Gailey is just being stubborn in refusing to do what works and going with what he wants to do.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!
by thefourwinds on Nov 13, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Freddie didn’t really lead the offense like he usually does, but he was not bottled up. He certainly wasn’t the problem today.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
So, how long before we start hearing conspiracy theories that the Bills don’t want to pay Freddie so they’re not featuring him the way he obviously could be featured?
I almost might be willing to believe it…
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
No one circles the waiver wire like the Buffalo Bills!
by thefourwinds on Nov 13, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
we were being blown out in this game...
teams pass to try to catch up…look at the lions game. stafford threw the ball 63 times! you aren’t going to run it when you are getting blown out like this…
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 14, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
doesn't explain the lack of use over the last two weeks
and really, i have been saying this for a while. i don’t see the logic, so i can’t say i truly put much stock in it…. bears are happy running forte on an underrated contract. but i just can’t fathom 13 touches. He is a top 5 back. or at least he is capable of being, as long as we try and get him his touches. which 13 is not making a legit effort, to me.
ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE
by ThaRealTruth on Nov 14, 2011 3:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well going down 21-0 and spending much of the game down 3 scores didn’t help our commitment to the run game. Probably got away from it too fast, but so many of Freddy’s yards come from passes and from teams that are spread out that it’s not so easy for me to sit back and say we are a run team , run the ball. Freddy also lost a fumble for the second week in a row, so he isn’t above reproach. He played well when given the opportunity, but really the defense got us away from a lot of stuff.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
S.O.B.
Same Old Bills. “Absolutely obliterated” is about as accurate as possible. I’m not ready to can the season altogether, The more I watch the NFL this year, the more I am convinced that there are about 4 good teams, 4 bad teams, and 24 mediocre teams, of which Buffalo is a member. That being said, the parallels with 2008 are starting clearly here now…sad day to support this sad franchise.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Silver Lining
The Walking Dead is on tonight!
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Didn’t catch that last weekend, is it pretty good?
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I tell you what
I’d rather watch that six times in a row than watch the first quarter of the Bills game again.
That was just terrible
and what makes it worse it follows another terrible performance. The defense just can’t compete without Williams, Kelsay and Merriman. Corners have always been sketchy and without any pass rush they are just not good enough. Similar issues on offense; can’t overcome absence of Bell and Hairston (and now probably Wood.) Lack of a deep threat makes it too easy for opposing defenses. Based on the injuries, overall lack of talent and the disintegration of coaching, the balance of the season looks daunting.
I admit to imbibing on the Kool Aid for a few weeks but the shocking lack of competitive performance in the last 2 weeks has brought me crashing back to reality. Losses in close games are one thing but this is totally different. It is too reminiscent of the 2 blow out losses to the Pats and the Jets at the end of last season.
prediction for 2011 season is 5 and 11
Can Stevie run anything other than slants?!?!
I know he can but I have really hated the playcalling the last few games because it has become so predictable. Stevie never seems to run anything other than slants anymore and forget about targeting him in the red zone. Gailey needs to get his act together and start finding ways to get his playmakers the ball more. Fitz needs a boost and vote of confidence. I’m not sold on him as a franchise QB and if one is still there in the draft I still believe we should take him BUT he is the 6 yr $60 mil guy and needs support from his coaching staff and players more now than ever.
Something needs to happen with this defense. George Edwards needs to take a lot of this blame and probably be axed. There are just too many holes to list.
That CJ Spiller drop was horrendous. Of course it could have been placed a bit better but that’s Fitz and his inconsistent deep ball. But for a player who is supposed to be explosive and a big play threat….he needs to make that play.
We still have a winning record but it looks like that playoff window is closing up fast and the Bills are doing their best to miss out again.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
no game plan
they didn’t commit to the run, and the defense was unprepared (blown coverages, defensive backs out of place).
In spiller’s defense, he’s not really a wide receiver, and we saw that today.
I'll agree he's not really a WR
but good players make plays (especially homerun threat types). Also it’s not like it was a tough double coverage outjump the guys around you type of catch, it was a ball that was a tad overthrown but still hit him in both hands with nobody around him to knock it out. He just didn’t make the play.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Maybe the worst play calling I've seen in a long time
You have one of this year’s running backs, he’s playing in his home town, Lynch ran for something like 150 yards against the Cowboys and you don’t try to establish the run! Right off the bat, we get down and we start throwing. Hand it off to Jackson.
Can our defense anyone on 3rd and long?
This game lose is on the coaches
by BuckeyeBillsFan on Nov 13, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
CBs
We need at least 3 competent ones. The CBs we have make me want to break my TV. Street FAs or PS fodder would be an upgrade. Honestly don’t know how they get away with being as lazy and plain bad as they are week after week. Maybe running laps while everyone else has practice would be a good punishment, but I am sure the players union or the pansy player would cry like the girls they are over “punishment” being handed out to “men”. I say act like it and then you can be treated like it.
He’s one of countless terrible NFL announcers who got their job for one reason and one reason only: They used to play in the NFL. Howard Cosell is still yelling from his grave about this. He knew it was coming when they hired that doofus Frank Gifford to work the booth with him. And honestly, Frank Gifford seems like a shakespearean actor compared to all the announcers these days…
oh yea, I forgot to mention
our first offensive play when no one blocked Ware. I guess Edwards didn’t tell them that they should account for him on every play or if he did they forgot.
prediction for 2011 season is 5 and 11
Yes!
Joe D’Allesandris is the Line coach.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
okay, you have been threatened by Orlando to discover a even more rare name
oh yeah, well our Offensive Quality Control Coach back in ’09 was 2001 Bills QB starter Alex Van Pelt…ha take that.
I REMEMBER that guy!
I remember saying “And our QB is Linus’s older brother this year”.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ha
As Kramer once said… “Frankly, it sounds made-up!”
Kind of a fail considering.
I see the point, but insert the OL coach or the OC… where is his name…
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
When Fred Jackson is averaging 8.7 yards against a defense...
He only gets 13 carries? Seriously, Gailey?
And on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and short…the Bills are throwing the ball? I didn’t think it could get worse after last week, but I was so, so, so, so wrong.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Alright,
Smart of me to get plenty of non-perishables last week, all I need at SavALot is milk, bread, and … do they sell beer? I wonder. But I mean to say, about to evacuate the dance floor and head to the store finally.
I swear, this group of people right here is what’s getting me through the last couple of weeks as a fan. I think we really ARE going to be … do the math… 7-5 at week 13, but it’ll take something special to make the playoffs.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
YES WE ARE!
CUTE. AND. FLUFFY!
/LiloAndStitch
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
The Cowboys are only a .500 team
they haven’t even gotten warmed up yet, so don’t beat yourselves up. Every team in their way will feel the wrath. Nice effort by Freddy though.
wrath
Should’ve saved some wrath for the lame-ass Eagles a few weeks back when they laid down in the first quarter like Buffalo did today. Dallas is a gutless, front-running team that folds at the first sign of adversity. Both these teams will be watching the playoffs from home come January just like last year.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Every team that plays Dallas
plays like it is their Super Bow. Everyone wants to beat America’s Team. Eagles had a bye week before Dallas and are 13-0 after bye weeks under Reid. That was their Super Bowl. I can guarantee you that when they play in Dallas on Christmas Eve, it will be a whole different story. Cowboys have one game a year where they don’t show up….that was the one. I thought the Bills had theirs last week but I guess not. Sour Grapes buddy.
Who comes onto an opposing teams website within hours of a horrid loss...
and cries “Sour grapes” when someone snaps at you for acting like your team is #1 in the NFL (“every team will feel the wrath”)?
Seriously? Back to BlargingtheGirlz with ye!
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Please
Dallas hasn’t even played for a conference championship since the Clinton administration. They have a large, nation-wide fan base due to their popular teams from the 70s, but they haven’t been contenders for what’s approaching two decades. They are nobody’s Super Bowl- they are just another date on a 16 game schedule and have been for a very long time. I like Notre Dame football, but the “we’re everybody’s super Bowl routine” that Notre Dame uses is a joke just like this crap above. Notre Dame is just another team just like Dallas is. Get back in your time machine or watch the Packers game tomorrow.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
OK
I seem to have struck a nerve. I’ll be going now. See you in 4 years. Oh wait, you probably won’t be there in 4 years. Ralph will be long gone and the team will be in LA. You’ll need a new team to root for. May I suggest you join the majority of NFL fans and root for the Cowboys? See ya.
Maybe I’ll root for Houston so I can at least be a fan of the most relevant team in their own state.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Yeah, that's right
you should keep your rooting interests in the AFC. At least your not denying that you won’t have a team when Ralph kicks.
I wouldn't be so cocky.
The Devil always comes to collect on his deals so Jerry might not have much time on his hands.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
But he has 2 sons in the system
ready to take over. And they will hire GM’s and OC’s. Our future looks very bright.
Just as bright as it has been the last 10 years
And if we’re joining the majority of NFL fans we’d all be wearing Cheeseheads or waving around our terrible towlies.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Cowboys have the biggest fan base in the NFL….fact.
Yep, and Ryan Fitzpatrick rides a unicorn to work everyday.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
He does! His name is Beardsy McHorn. And he’s a wonderful animal.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Nov 13, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, kid.
Go home. Why pick a fight with opposing fans on THEIR blog. It screams “I live in my mom’s basement” something fierce.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for shedding a positive light on Cowboys fans. You’re really doing a great job changing a long lasting stigma.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Cowboys fans
this is pretty much par for the course in my experience. They stand out in being obnoxious. I wish them the worst.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Who is this majority? You and your incredibly overweight redneck buddies? And no you aren’t “America’s Team” just because a bunch of inbred hillbilly yahoos deemed it so.
WOW!!
Yes, that game was disgusting. But please stop whining!! Like everyone else I’m disgusted with the last 2 games but not surprised. Last year we were 4-12. Already at week 9 this year we are 5-4 and still in second place in the division with 7 weeks to go. Why is everyone giving up? The first 5 weeks everyone was thinking playoffs, now some idiots are saying we should lose out to get a better draft pick! Seriously? Why was anyone realistically thinking we were going to the Super Bowl this year?? This team is drastically improved from last year. It is going to be a process. They are going to build this team through the draft and is going to take more than just the 2 drafts Nix has had. This Bills team is much better but is still not there yet so stop whining. If you thought we were going to the Super Bowl this year you are crazy but please don’t say we should lose out to get a better draft pick. That’s just stupid. The worst part about being a Bills fan is the ridiculous extremes everyone goes through when they win a few or lose a few in a row.
by Biscuit24 on Nov 13, 2011 5:13 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions 8 recs
See, good point...
It’s just the fact that we can win games and have proven it is making us think we should be ending the drought this year… and I’ve regained enough of my optimism to think we can back in to the playoffs, maybe upset someone if it’s the Pats, but … hmm. I almost started thinking that 25th in the draft isn’t enough to get good people. Someone slap me, okay? We’re getting decent plays out of K-Shep, and he was third round!
We’ll win what we can, we’ll have picks to get decent prospects and a probable first year contributor, and see what we can do with A-Wil, Searcy, and company next training camp. And we’ll see if the Pats can help us get into the playoffs this year.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot rec this enough
Rebuilds take time. Out starters are good enough to compete in this league but it’s the depth that’s the problem. The best teams have quality depth that can step in without being too much of a downgrade. This is where we struggle particularly on defense, Have faith guys.
Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life.
- Brooke Shields
by Let's Go Buffalo (UK) on Nov 13, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta Stay Healthy Someday
It will be nice knowing we will get a real LT one of these days assuming Hairston or Bell get off the injured list (anyone know why Hairston didn’t play despite not being on the injury report?). We will have Roscoe and Easley next year plus another WR in the draft I bet.
On defense we will have Williams back and we know Dareus and Carrington will be players as well as Sheppard. Just need some depth and to avoid injuries. Once we do that, we will be OK
by legendmaker53 on Nov 13, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Guess what, I’ve been waiting for a rebuild for over a decade. So, you can understand why I need them to catch lightning in a bottle like the Chiefs did last year and make the freaking playoffs already!!!
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 14, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
I guess everything is back to normal.
Now that the lockout is over, good teams are returning to be good. While the same is true for bad teams. The Bills, the Bengals, the Browns, etc are going to regress back to being small market crap teams. I’m hoping I’m just jumping the gun. But I believe that the parody portion of the season is closing and the good consistent teams/weak division teams will reign supreme in the playoffs once again. How boring is that.
I don’t think you can lump the Bengals in. They held up against the Steelers, and just barely fell short
lions will be fine...
costly turnovers cost them that game. Stafford couldn’t throw is those gustly winds and everyone knows they do not have a running game, so everyone knew this would happen the way it did.
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 14, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
Except sometimes good teams get worse and bad teams get better. There aren’t a lot of constants in the NFL. “Small market crap teams”, like the Packers?
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna need an explanation…. I don’t buy the “small market teams” cant compete int he NFL and they are doomed to always lose to big market teams. Lots of small market teams make it work.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying the Pack aren't small market.
They have the entire state of Wisconsin all to themselves (the Vikings and Bears aren’t going to be stealing any fans away) plus they have people from states that don’t have teams, plus they have people who are just bandwagon idiots.
Lots of people. Green Bay may be a small city with nothing good besides the Packers, but the Packers represent much more than the city of Green Bay.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
All that may be true, but I still consider them a small market team. Bandwagon idiots and fairweather fans dont change the size of your market. You are saying they are popular for a small market team, but that doesnt make them big.
The state of wisconsin is a lot like saying western new york and southern ontario. Winning doesnt make them a large market team, it makes them popular, but their local revenue stream stinks. They aren’t raking it in that much more than a team like the Bills.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Question
Isn’t Packers team on stock market or something like that? Saying publicly owned. Packers are small market team operating like a big market team, at least fan wise.
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
No its not on the stock market. Ownership structure doesnt change your market size anyway.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
It’s publicly owned in that people own shares, but its not publicly traded… you’d have to track down some family in Green Bay and ask them for their stock. But is the only team like this… it still means they operate with the constraints of a small market team that doesnt draw the revenues of larger cities. If you look at revenues a lot of team are like the Bills and do fine. I just was using them as one example. Its not “the small market teams always lose”.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
You'll be able to buy "Stock" in the Packers here shortly
It’s something like $250 a share for non-voting stock. Marketing genius. . .
Yup. Just had a GB local tell me this today. Was very shocked by this.
"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself." - D.H. Lawrence
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Nov 13, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
All that may be true, but I still consider them a small market team.
What’s their market, then?
According to Wikipedia, as of 2010, these are the populations of the areas various teams are from.
Wisconsin = 5,686,000
Minnesota = 5,300,000
Washington State (for Seattle) = 6,700,000
New York City = 8,100,000
New York State = 19,000,000 split up between 3 teams
Miami = 399,000
Tampa = 335,000
Jacksonville = 820,000
Florida state = 18,800,000
Tennessee (Titans) = 6,300,000
Indiana (Colts) = 6,483,000
Missouri = 6,000,000 between 2 teams
Ohio = 11,500,000 between 2 teams
Colorado = 5,029,000
Maryland (Ravens) = 5,773,000
Pennsylvania = 12,700,000 split between 2 teams
Louisiana = 4,500,000
There are a lot of teams playing in areas with not a lot of people or in populous states with a few other teams to compete with. The market for the NFL is America. States without teams still draw fans, so to constrict a market within a state might not be accurate.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Tampa = 335,000
The Census Bureau currently estimates the population for the Greater Tampa Bay area at 4,228,855 as of 2010.
Just sayin.’ I moved to Tampa recently, so I thought 335k sounded low.
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"Nick Barnett is everywhere. He is behind you right now." -- Munchausen
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 13, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
You're right.
I gave the specific city but the Metro in total is 4.2 mil.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
In Green Bay at this moment.
I’ve got to say, this is a pretty sweet city. As for the small-market aspect, yea Green Bay is small-market, but as you said, the entire state is fanatical about their Packers. I was literally the only non-Pack fan at the bar in Lambeau (which is freaking sweet) wacthing the Bills get romped. As for nothing good besides the Packers in Green Bay, gotta say the beer and food (do they freaking eat here, man, food portions are huge, with cheese and butter on everything) are great. Anyway, I’m going tomorrow night for the MNF game to watch a real football team. It does feel very bizzare buying Packers gear and going to a non-Bills game for my first time.
"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself." - D.H. Lawrence
by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Nov 13, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
In response to the food, welcome to German country. Nothing beats Brats and beer, except maybe Brats + sauerkraut and beer.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
SIGH...............
Rrrawrrrr, rrrawrrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Rhymes
"Maybe i'm talking fast or your just listening slow"
sad, but not really surprising
a team that had performing above its head, ran into another team – at home –
that had been performing way below its talent level. i’m pretty disgusted with the WAY the bills lost – but not surprised at the outcome. i thought they would at least be competitive with the ’pokes.
bills are still above 500. but barely. eh. time to get serious. the next two games are vital.
and, no matter how bad the bills looked the last two weeks – both the phins and the jets are winable games.
The problem is predictability
Full disclosure, for the first time in my life I was tempted to turn off the game. I didnt but it was VERY close. That is saying something because we have had some bad losses over the decades and I have never had that urge before. To those of you who missed the game you didnt miss anything. I’d say hands down the most miserable effort since Gailey arrived. Miserable in the sense that I have never been BORED by the Bills before . The deeper issue here is not that the Bills were miserably boring to watch but its why:
1. When Chan Gailey refuses to run Fred Jackson you begin to lose interest because you know we are a weaker team, automatically he is putting a worse offense on the field by doing so.
2. The playcalling has gone from exciting to numbingly predictable. Within one second of a snap I know we are going to see a bubble screen to Fred on the bottom of the screen. I know it because the players move the same way, they come off the line the same way, and Fitz looks and behaves the same way. Every time. If I am at the point of instant recognition with these Bills then so are the guys who spent a hundred hours watching our game film in depth. Thus it is no surprise that 4 Cowboys were exactly where the ball was going on every single screen play before it happened. Has Chan Gailey determined to stop disguising plays? When Brad Smith is in the Wildcat its going up the gut. When Fitz has 5 wide its a slant or out. Stevie runs underneath or slants on about 70% of his friggin snaps. What is the problem here Chan? Throw out your playbook and create another one if you dont have anymore plays drawn up and this one has lost its usefulness. You had the bye week and it looks like you didnt bring anything new into the gameplan.
3. We are incapable of spreading the field and opening up the offense because our pocket is ill-fit for anything other than a 3 step drop. There is no pocket integrity for Fitz to work with thus when we go deep Fitz is throwing with a man already six inches in front of his face or off balance moving around in a mess of a pocket. Losing Eric Wood will only make this worse. As one of the o-lines biggest critics this off-season I backed off of talking too much about the o-line because they have played worlds better then I expected and proved me wrong. Their run blocking has been fantastic as well however its time to start discussing our pass protection issues. Fitzpatrick and Gailey need to have more time to design plays to stretch the defense and give opposing coordinators something to think about. This is not just on the OTs for the record. This is on everyone. Pressure is coming up the middle just as much as on the edge and tight ends, running backs and receivers have looked lackadaisical in their blocking as well in recent weeks.
4. Our guys drop balls when the pass is not coming from 10 feet away from them. Fitzpatrick played well and made some nice throws in the middle of the field and deep that were going through hands.This happened last week. This happened the week before. It needs to stop. In football you cant miss scoring opportunities because of a lack of focus. Its not just Donald Jones although he seems to have a particular problem with reeling in catches. These guys cant do this.
As I look back on my list I see that my issue is with the offense. This wasnt intended to be the case. I suppose we expected poor play from the defense but this offense is better than that. They know they can be better and they are doing a lot of things wrong. There is no excuse for our team to essentially have one score against the Jets and Cowboys for most of those games.The offense is contributing just as much as the defense to this slide – if not MORE. Yes more. The defense cant be on the field the whole game and defending poor field position.
This team is still in the thick of a playoff race guys. Things are ugly out on the field but the battle is far from over. Cheer for New England to hammer down on the Jets to steal their confidence back and give us the same record. Our divisional rivals are all weak and can be exploited in identifiable areas, just like us. We can still win this division folks!!
This team has to get its heads out of the sand in a hurry though. Go Bills! It aint over and there is still a lot of season left to play.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
by poz on Nov 13, 2011 5:25 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
it looks to me
like Im one of the few who doesnt think the season is over. Id say its gotten to me a lot less than most.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
im not sure if its sarcasm
but Im not sure why you seem insulted by my belief we’re still in the playoff race. I havent come at you at all for believing its over, you are entitled to do that.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
it's not, I really wish I was more confident in this team...
I have watched the team since i was eight back in 2000, so I’ve never seen real success by this team…so I instantly have no optimism going in to games. I was complimenting you.
ahhhh I see
you’re of the generation thats never seen a playoff team. I actually feel for you, that stinks. And I applaud the fact you’re still supporting the team so strongly, it’ll be worth it either this year or next. Just remember, you’ve seen the Bills go on streaks over those years. Both hot and cold. We started with a hot one and now we’re in the middle of a cold one. All it takes is one more hot streak to get this team into the playoffs.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
thanks man,
I really hope I finally get to see the Bills in the playoffs, I just don’t think (after watching that game) that we ready to be there yet.
we're certainly not right now
and the guys in the lockeroom better not be thinking playoffs. It seems like they were looking ahead to January. They better not even think about winning. Its gotten so basic that the offenses goal should be to score a touchdown and the defense should be focusing on preventing a touchdown. Its to that point right now
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
I agree.
I may be leaning on your optimism for the next week, though. Just a little. Once we beat Miami, I’ll have replenished the tank enough to start spreading it further.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
my optimism is really only coming from the fact that we beat New England and get a second shot at the Jets. If we dont beat the Dolphins twice then I’ll be pretty much resigned to the fact that its not going to happen
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Yeah...
We’ve got to go 3-1 the rest of the way in the division, and we’re not doing it if we don’t make a start next week, but hey, we will beat them next week, I’m sure of it.
And I’m quite sure we’re beating New England to end the season. Jersey is all I’m really worried about.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 13, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
and dont forget
if anyone doesnt think Rex shared his notes on our offense with Rob then they dont have a brother or arent close to theirs. All I know, is if my brother was coaching a team Im known for having figured out, and had a chance to give a loss to the team in my division, Id have had a nice long skype chat with him so I could really stick it to that team.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Doesn’t make a difference – our offense is predictable and stale, and while I understand your point, it’s not like Rex has some secret insight that nobody else has – we have very little talent on both sides of the ball – that’s the real issue.
by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 14, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think the season is over - but this is starting to get freakin old.
We lose our best defensive player early on in Kyle Williams. His backup is injured for a while though he has finally come back.
We lose both our LT and his backup at the same freaking time for a month. Once one finally looks like he’s going to be back we likely lose our freaking C. During this whole time, we basically lost our LG too since he’s been forced to play out of position.
Our best WR has basically been playing with an injured groin since TC. Kind of hard to juke and be shifty with a bad groin.
On top of this we lose one deep threat in Parrish in what, game 1 of the season? That wouldn’t have been so bad if we hadn’t lose one of our potential deep threats in Easley right off the bat. That forces us to have Jones on the outside, and oh ya, we lose him for around a month. So we are without a deep threat (though he’s been playing like crap anyways) at the same time the left side of our line is in shambles.
McGee is injured for multiple games, and we’re forced to watch Florence play like a rookie 7th round pick.
Can we catch a freaking break ever?
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking that during the game too
we seem to get hit with injuries at key positions very often, every year.
To the point about the receivers, a big part of that is self-inflicted. There was no reason to trade a life long Bill with deep speed to burn and exceptional hands who could have mentored all these young guys unless Lee openly declared he would not accept being the no.2. This offense with Evans on the roster would be much better right now. I still dont like that move.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
True. But imagine if we still had Evans.
Steve Johnson – injured since TC.
Roscoe Parrish – put on IR after game 1 or 2.
Marcus Easley – put on IR before game 1.
Donald Jones – out for 4 weeks during the season.
Lee Evans – only caught 2 balls before being injured since week 2.
It would only look worse and more frustrating :)
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yah next years draft when barkley falls to us.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Love the breakdown.
I also agree with every one of your points. The only way we should be predictable is in handing the ball off to Fred Jackson 20+ times a game.
The. man. gets. it. done.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
yes he does
he needs a wingman though and Stevie has been effectively erased in two consecutive weeks. Thats a disturbing trend.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Well in Stevie's defense
He played Revis last week for the most part and had more success than most receivers this season have against him. This week he looked…sick. I don’t know any other way to put it. He looked slow, tired, and uninterested. Not sure what that was all about, but maybe he has some injury we don’t know about.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
He did end up on injury report thurs with an illness.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there ya go
your right pheonix, he did look slow so it makes sense that he was sick.
I hope his confidence isnt shot right now.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Me, too.
This team really seems to click when we can give Fred the ball 20+ times and target Stevie J 5-10 times. Gailey needs to scheme for that rather than jump balls to Donald “Can’t Catch a Cold” Jones.
Heh, maybe that was Stevie’s problem: too good at catching things! rimshot
I’m here all week!
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaha nicely done
and what is with the jump ball to Jones deal? Seems like they are asking him to do things Marcus Easley would have been doing. The jump ball to Jones hasnt really worked at all
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
It seriously beats me.
The only game it worked in was against NE. It seems every other time Fitz has tried to hit Jones on those sideline jump balls it’s been on 3rd/4th and short and the Bills come up empty-handed.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Could be the flu. Guys will take a antibiotics shot and still go. Jose aldo ufc fighter dominates. He had a performance he win convincing but looked diffrent. Slow basically. Ends up he had thE flu.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is your public service announcement:
You shouldn’t take antibiotics for the flu.
Just sayin’.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Its something specific not necesarily antibiotics but a medicibe shot pushes back symotomd fir a day.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Johnson's been missing since week 3 for the most part
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
that's about the time
they had him stop running other routes and run slants exclusively. In all seriousness though, it seems like that is the only thing they have him run these days. It’s either he’s just running a slant to be a distraction and lure the safety up so that someone (Jones) can try running deep behind him or just run a slant for a 6 yd catch. Why is Gailey making Stevie and his routes so predictable and ineffective. Move him around, line him up in the slot or outside and run other routes like posts or drags or god forbid a fade route jump ball like in week 1 when he came down with the TD over Flowers.
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
Agreed
i hate to admit, but I finally said just about the same thing this afternoon. I’m not sure what to make of Johnson right now.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
I don’t know what the general thought is around Rumblings, but I think he’s still suffering from the groin injury. That type of injury can take away his biggest asset as a WR.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
@Poz
Sadly, I agree with everything you said.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 13, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
3 INT's
Game over, TO ’s will kill a team. We need more talent, it takes time. were not as good as we thought, hoped. Fitz signing kinda premature. Worried.
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
All his guarenteed is gone in three years his contract is spefically designed for us to.draft a qb.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 6:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
IF we get a first rounder...
That’s worth a first rounder, then alright.
I do think Ryan is a QB that can make plays if he has quality around him, though.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Turnovers by the offense had pretty much nothing to do with the ultimate outcome. Giving up three long TD drives in the first half kept us off the field. 2/3 of our drives should have ended in points.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Understood
Understand coverage on West Coast sucks regarding Bill’s. I’m just saying INT’s aren’t good stat and Fitz isn’t lacking in INT’s.
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
All true.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
The play calling has been pitiful the last couple weeks. The most original play for the offense was the deep ball to Spiller (which almost worked) but was only tried once. I halfway agree with your 4th point. I haven’t seen Nelson, Roosevelt, Chandler drop many balls. Jones is not showing me anything to convince me he’s an upgrade over Evans (now or in the future).
Actually, I thought this was how they would look in the beginning of the season (I predicted 6-10). Yes they are still in the playoff race, but they do not have the depth to cover for the injuries that are amassing. Anything can happen though. One thing is for sure, the coaches had better wake up
"A deaf person can hear better than a ignorant person."- Unknown Comedian
I agree, the seasons not over. Were a young and inconsistent team. Add the mounting injuries and it makes it tougher. That being said, we are way too predictable. Way too many screens. Our dine gets manhandled. Wrs
by jesterz21c on Nov 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree, the seasons not over. Were a young and inconsistent team. Add the mounting injuries and it makes it tougher. That being said, we are way too predictable. Way too many screens. Our dine gets manhandled. Wrs can’t catch, stevies been disappointing, not dominating like he did last year. The whole game was horrible, and if I could I’d ask the team to refund my tickets i would for having to watch that, but I can’t. I’ll just continue to support them and know were making progress from last year, but still have a ways to go
by jesterz21c on Nov 13, 2011 6:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
All I know is this team has me with no confidence to win any game remaining on the schedule.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 13, 2011 5:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I only see us winning one (denver), maybe 2 (one against the phins…in buffalo). this 3 game rd streak is going to find us 0-3. no way we go to jersey and beat the jets after they already figured us out. we don’t have an answer for them. and the matt moore will throw for at least 200 on us! all he has to do is sling it to Marshall all day cause we will give him a 10 yd cushion on 2nd and 2 and give up a 3rd and long everytime! not to mention they seem to have found a way to get reggie bush involved and playing well. why chan can’t seem to do the same with spiller is beyond me…and he’s supposed to be an offensive genius? please!!!! look at martz in chicago. he was the one famous for having the “greatest show on turf” and now he is changing his gameplan by running the heck out of forte. why can’t chan seem to realize that we are short at wr, we have no deep threat at wr, but our best and most consistent offensive weapon is FredEx?! Adjust the offense slightly Chan. Let’s play more elementary-type fundamentally sound offense. like the jets. run the rock and pass here and there to stay balanced but only what the defense allows. It is so frustrating watching this debacle.
Tebow has won against bad teams so far do not know about today or who denvered played but I can not see this team beating lsu if something does not change draatically.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 14, 2011 12:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't care if they can stop an old lady on crutches.
I just want them to get to their gaps/assignments in a hurry and with conviction. When they aren’t missing assignments, they’re getting outplayed – McKelvin’s lack of a play on Bryant’s TD even though he was in excellent position comes to mind first.
I haven’t jumped on the Fire Edwards bandwagon just yet, but, man…this defense has looked wholly unprepared to play at times this season. It’s so hard to judge because of the dearth of talent compounded by injuries to his best players. But something has got to give. Doesn’t it?
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't get it....
I’m not a football expert so please forgive me…. But how on earth, does a team that was scoring 30+ points per game is now getting blown out? Did our lack of talent really catch up to us? Was figuring out our offense really all it took to stop us so bad… We weren’t even getting blown out this bad last year (Save for the Jets games) were we? I kinda feel like the Ryans’ googled our playbook or something…
"There's always next year..." -- Rip Van Winkle--
More game film to dissect.
Gailey has been figured out and hasn’t been able to or just doesn’t have the pieces to adjust and keep scoring.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
It's simple
The defenses, with all the game film, have shut down Buffalo’s short passing game. Now, Gailey will have to start burning defenses by going deeper and by committing more to the run. Throwing in some play-action will also help!
What is this...how did you say it...."pleeeeaaaayyy ackshyun"?
It sounds delicious. Maybe we should try it.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Talent. And other teams figuring out our schemes/weaknesses. We can’t adjust because of it, eirther coaching or talent, I say talent.
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Don't agree
I think they can adjust and be more competitive.
Run the balll...setup the pass...5 wide set isnt exactly the best Run formation
CJ Spiller? I see you presnap..that’s where it ends
Hate that formation
Nothing says blitz me better than an empty backfield!
amen to this
i can’t stand watching this prettyboy type offensive formation. i wish we had a coach with some freegin balls. I formation. mano y mano. smash mouth football. today really showed our sissyness on offense; particularly at wr. our guys getting punked all game, like some little ____. this offense shouldn’t be built around fitz, it should be built around FRED! and I bet Fred is a little sour about not getting an extension first. Fred has been the man WAY before fitz started a game with us. I’ll tell you what…if we don’t re-sign him by season’s end, he will walk to a team that has a better chance to win a championship and who will pay him more! The Pats will snatch him up real quick! That’s what they are missing anyway, a good solid run game. and we will be left with spiller who sucks. did u see him last wk on a run completely get decleated by running into the back of stevie while he was blocking for him? what a punk!
FYI Jackson is signed through next season.
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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Nov 13, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
wheew!
that’s a relief. tell me something. we still need to run the offense through him though.
Wow
Half way down thread I thought how pessimistic! I’ve been attacked far more times for saying less negative stuff than this! Where’s the love for the team? Rah, rah, Fitz is the “man” kinda input I’ve read for sometime? Fickle crowd. Were not as good as you thought we were guys! Coaching has masked alot of defeciencies, well the opposition has a bead on our coaching. To bad Chan doesn’t have enough talent to work with. Spiller isn’t even a thought. Gotta give Bill’s FO a season or two more but not so high on Nix, Chan victim of “cupboards bear” syndrome. Why did we sign that dude from Jet’s Brad Smith? And weres Spiller?
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 6:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'd be happy to see.......on 3rd and short or 4th and 1.......
……….. a two WR set, CMAC in there, and either stuff Freddy for the first down or run playaction.
Much better than 4 or 5 receivers in that game situation.
GO BILLS!
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 13, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd.......but I hate being right about the this stuff.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Its ok. We will win at miami and then beat the jets and suddenly be 7-4 and back in the thick of things. Have faith.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
by chaucer on Nov 13, 2011 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Its only one game, Go Bill’s! Fish fry!!
by buffalobacker on Nov 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I always love a good fish fry!
Randolph Legion or Frewsburg Legion have the best in the Southern Tier!
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 13, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
We WILL win at Miami.
We … will have to work our ASSES off to win in Jersey. We do that, and we’re on our way.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
It was fun while it lasted...
but these last 2 weeks have just reminded me of the last 10+ years. The players are playing with no heart, it feels like the fans care more about winning than anyone on that sideline. The playcalling stinks on both sides of the ball and the players are no longer playing above their skill level, they are now playing below.
I still hope the team makes the playoffs but wow, this team looks terrible.
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by RIP058 on Nov 13, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The problem with a team that has marginal talent is that their ceiling is lower
Teams with more talent on the roster like the Jets and Cowboys are continuing to get better. The Bills peaked during the Pats game.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Reminiscent of the Green Bay game last year. I, like many of you, are getting sick and tired of missing the playoffs every year, and especially not even being close down the stretch.
I don’t know as much about football as far as schemes and such as some of you, but even I can see that the defensive schemes George Edwards are employing are simply not working. I hear all this about how awful and slow our defenders are. Look what Aaron Maybin has already done under a different regime. 3 sacks in 5 games… already more than every single player on our team except Marcell Dareus, in less games. The same guy who the Bills portrayed to be the worst player in the NFL.
Someone needs to wake up and fire George Edwards. Hopefully that is a step in the right direction… I guess we will have to wait several more years before we can be competitive. Sigh.
Sickening
I’m watching the 49ers roll up the Giants and cant help thinking “that was us for a few weeks anyway”, a perennial crappy team turned good. But, we still suck, and the Niners are legit. Getting tired of hoping for change that just doesnt ever really happen, and seeing all the other losers’ fortunes change
I think I am in the minority with this thinking but
at the beginning of the year i felt that an 8-8 season would be a GREAT season. I realized the Bills just don’t have a talented enough roster to make the playoffs and it will be at least another year. So the year starts and we go 5-2 and I’m thinking like all of Buffalo, Wow is this the year?. Now we get blown out 2 weeks in a row, 5-4, but guess what we got miami next. We will be 6-4. From then on its up to this team how the season goes. We have winnable games left, (as long as the defense shows up), so who knows.
But about todays game, DO NOT BLAME FITZ, this game is 95% on the defense. Could NOT get of the field on 3rd down. EVERY TIME. While maybe we should fire Edwards, we have no consistency from our DBs, and have below average OLBs. So it makes for a bad defense. Because of this we cannot run and it messes up our whole offense. Fred had a good game but he didnt get enough touches cause our defense couldnt stop anything and we were forced to pass the entire game. We only win if Fred is a major factor.
This team still needs another draft to build it up, its only year 2 of a 3-5 year rebuild, what do you expect? This team needs 1-2 OLBs, 1 CB (dont forget about williams), and a true #1 receiver. STEVIE is a Good #2, but i dont feel he is big enough to be a great #1. hes been inconsistent. DJ is not a #2, cant catch the deep ball and is not big enough (physical enough) to get open consistently. So be patient, although it stinks, I believe in the FO, Chan, and think that Fitz is good enough. maybe I’m wrong, but why believe differently
Fitzmagic
by tomcs on Nov 13, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The reason is
an 8-8 season would be a GREAT season
that the team is going backwards. If we were being competitive and losing close, but well played games that would be different.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
i agree.
But i feel a big reason we are going backwards currently is lack of depth, which was expected. Once Merriman, Kelsay, Williams go down our defense is very young and inexperienced. and our pass rush is greatly diminished, as it was already believed with kelsay and merriman that it was insufficient.
Fitzmagic
true, but it isn't just the defense....I could live with just the defense playing poorly do to injury
But the offense is playing worse than the defense.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
I'm not sure about that, at least for this game
The Jets game, i 100% agree, offense played awful, fitz was awful, Fred was bad, everything about the offense was bad. But the cowboys game, although only 7 pts were scored, i dont feel that way. We started the game of poorly on offense for sure, but being down 21 pts early makes you drastically change your game plan. the offense was forced to pass, and that is not the strong point of the offense. Our running game was barely used, fred had like 10 touches, there is little chance of winning for us if Fred isnt a big part of the game. Its just how it is right now. We dont have a big time receiver, we have a good #2.#3.#4, and decent TE but we are missing a big deep threat. So if we get down big it is even more difficult to come back, although we have of course. But teams have figured us out by now and we dont have the talent to get down and come back. The defense could not make a play on 3rd down for anything. that is the reason we lost. if we are down 14-0 instead of 21-0 early it could easily have been a much closer game IMO.
Fitzmagic
difficult yes...but haven't the Bills comeback before?
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
yea i agree, but i think there is a difference.
When we had those amazing comebacks we were unknown. David Nelson was viewed as a non threat, and our spread offense wasn’t seen as much as it is now. But another big reason between those comebacks and today is Defense. We had several key takeaways, that we just havent gotten. When a QB is 23-26 for 3 tds and no pics, thats poor defense. An offense cant keep you in a game when the other team is unstoppable. In the comebacks the defense made stops, today they couldnt stop anything.
Fitzmagic
See, this I don't get.
The offense can in fact execute, and chug down the field, and the defense can’t do anything, literally, right, and ‘the offense is playing worse than the defense’?
I can’t get that perspective.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
The purpose of the offense is to score points
and give the defense some time to rest by getting a few 3rd downs
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
i agree
but the defense cant allow a team to convert 3rd downs almost 5 times in one drive. Romo completed 23/26, thats not the offenses fault at all. I feel our defense was to blame this week, but our offense was to blame last week.
Fitzmagic
plenty of blame to go around
but if you are expecting your defense to pitch a shutout every week in order to win…..well you’re going to be disappointed.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
no I'm not, they played well enough for us to win against the jets
But by no means is having ROMO go 23/26 a shutout or anywhere close. They also did not do a great job against the run, but i thought it was good enough. No pass rush and poor coverage, especially on 3rd down. They left witten pretty much wide open every time. You cannot allow a team to convert EVERY 3rd down and expect to win. I know they need more talent at CB and OLB, but that was inexcusable. Poor coaching, and poor execution.
Fitzmagic
I think you are missing my point
It doesn’t matter how poorly the D played because the O only scored 7 points. The defense would have had to have held the Cowboys to 6 pts to win……not a realistic expectation, IMHO.
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Delurking to agree with you.
I know that Bills fans are craving that magic season where we just rise up out of nowhere and stun the NFL by crushing the rest of the league, but I don’t think it’s time for that yet. They still have a lot of work to do. I guess maybe since I’m mainly a baseball fan (and used to my teams sucking so bad for so long) I’m a little bit more tolerant if the turnaround takes a couple of years? I dunno.
I do understand that it looks like this good start might be another cruel mirage, but I’m gonna hold out that it’s not. I can certainly understand those who think it is just another false start (no pun intended). I also think that the team that beat us is part of the reason why we’re all so upset; a loss to the Cowgirls makes me a zillion times more angry than a loss to any other team (even the Dolphins!).
by owllover711 on Nov 13, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Bills Record
The Bills have exceeded my expectations this year. I had them winning maybe 4 games if they were really good. They are what we thought they were. They are about two to three drafts away to making any playoffs. They do not have the caliber of players, nor the depth.
Or one transfer to the AFC West.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 13, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Every team in the NFL is one draft away from making the playoffs. This 2-3 drafts away crap is from a quarter of a century ago.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 13, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No doubt about that
Throw in a few FA’s and a teams’ fortunes can turn almost overnight if they have a competent front office that makes smart, bold moves.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I was at the game and I still feel disgusted. I can’t believe I spent so much money to watch them get blown out. Maybe I feel a little bitter but this was a joke. Absolutely no pressure on Romo, watched McKelvin get burnt by Robinson at least twice, offense was about as exciting as watching an old guy have a heart attack. It was horrible. Completely ruined the experience of going to my very first NFL game. I don’t really know what else to say that hasn’t been said already here at least 30 times. Defense is BAD. All these playoff hopes I had are gone. We’re back to playing mediocre football and records of 7-9. And it’s going to be a long time until that stops. Thought we had accomplished something but I guess not.
Violence: If its not solving all your problems you simply aren't using enough of it.
If you only saw McKelvin get burnt twice, consider yourself lucky. The time for hedging is officially over on this front. The guy is an absolute bust- a bad NFL player who will be out of the league within two years. I’m done with the coddling for Spiller at this point McKelvin absolutely sucks and so does Spiller.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 13, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he wasnt good by any means, but there is 0 pass rush how can you cover for 10 seconds.
and give spiller time. Hes not getting any touches. Hes not a deep threat receiver, dont blame him cause he missed that play. Fred didnt get enough touches, so neither did Spiller.
Fitzmagic
I’m blaming him for not belonging on an NFL field, not for one play. That rookie third round pick for the bad guys sure looked like he could contribute as a running back. At some point, you need to trust your eyes. Spiller can’t play.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 13, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i know. i see where you are coming from 100%.
But for some reason when i watch him i see his speed, acceleration, quickness, (that few have) which i feel is being underutilized. I thought Fred was way underutilized today, too. So i cant give up on him. hes only in his second year. most players take three years, and to defend the coaching staff. Why put him in when Fred is getting 5 yards per rush? its tough, and really i share your disappointment, but for some reason i dont want to give up on him yet.
Fitzmagic
I hate to say it
But that’s the player I’ve seen since last year. He just isn’t an NFL RB. Just watching him play, watching him run the ball makes you wonder how this guy was even drafted let alone drafted so high.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I know I am probably not going anywhere with this. But
Did you see him play in college? He completely tore it up, even though he had a bad toe or something for some of his last year. And personally every time i see spiller with the ball as i said above, his speed and quickness is amazing. get him the ball more and i can guarantee results. Maybe not quite as good as fred, but against the raiders didnt spiller have 4 carries for 68 yards. Give him the ball more. we should run more than we pass, we have TWO Good if not Great RBs.
Fitzmagic
If you only saw McKelvin get burnt twice, consider yourself lucky
Like it or not, McKelvin is the best corner on the team right now…
by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 14, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
that might be the most depressing thing I have ever seen written on this site
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Season is not over fella's....doomers and gloomers...
Buffalo Bills or Die.
by FergusVI on Nov 13, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
One thing I liked about the defense
Maybe I am crazy but I think the defense was hitting really hard today, when they got a chance. Especially Shep and Barnett. Obviously I saw that one big hit Barnett had, but I mean just in general. Those two, along with Byrd and Wilson, hit harder than most Bills defenses I can remember. Obviously the D had a horrid game and there was not much good. Just a point I have been thinking about. Correct me if I am wrong.
by CarolinaBills21 on Nov 13, 2011 8:13 PM EST reply actions
The Bills should try the long ball more often. Each week I see so many pass interference calls. The Jets got 2 TDs on bogus PI calls last week. Just go deep a few times – the refs are good for a few freebies if you have the guts to go deep… or of course somebody might catch it too.
Also, I want to point out that the Ravens look like an amazing team this year. But I watched them today against Seattle and they were total garbage. They’re in a slump. Our 5 wins this year were not luck. They need to get out of their funk and play a complete game next week. I think after going 5-3 in the first half, we can still have a 10-6 season at least.
Pass D
Admittedly I only watched every play of the first half and kinda let my attention wander late. The pass d was what really got me today though. Just lots of plays with corners losing assignments and just not being competitive enough for the ball in general. We just looked like we were sleep walking through the first half. I’ve never played football, but the whole first half, I was thinking if I could say one thing to the team, it would be “every f’ing play…”
D didn’t bring the hate, offense couldn’t get on the field until the game was over.
This team looks like what they put out there last season
The first 5 weeks of the season were an aberation. The true Bills were playing the last 2 weeks. And why oh why when they need 2-3 yards for a first down, do they continuosly go for 15-or more? Get the first down and get the new set of downs. Gailey’s playcalling sucked yet again today. Down by 21 at the half and they are still running the ball? Throw the ball down the middle or to the sidelines!!! And please?!?! Someone tell me why CJ Spiller was made the 1st round pick last year? This guy absolutely sucks!!! Wide open downfield and he trips over his own feet before the ball gets there? He is a worse bust that Maybin ever thought of being.
2011-Things are Looking Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With All The Injuries..
We pretty much are last year’s team….
by legendmaker53 on Nov 13, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
No offense, But we are being extremely fickle today.
“they love you when your winning, hate you when your losing”. I am not saying we are going to the playoffs still or anything. But this is not last years team. This is a team that is building, and it will take at least another draft/offseason to become a playoff team. If this was last years team we would be 2-6 maybe. we can win close games this year. It takes time to build a consistent winning team. We have more talent than last year but still not quite enough. But we are much closer. Just because we get blown out doesnt mean the world is over. The Cowboys got blown out by the Eagles 34-7 the week before. Calm it down a bit.. Criticism is fine, but lets not act like we had a super bowl team all along and they have disappointed us.
Fitzmagic
Personally, I’d 100% rather have a Super Bowl team that disappointed us. Criticizing the fans of this disgraceful franchise is lame.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
yea i see how this came out wrong.
this includes me too, we get built up so much, and then disappointed so its fine to criticize. and its been so long so it adds to it, and it stinks, but i just meant to be patient, it stinks, patience is hard. Everyone wants to win now. But its still year 2. of what seems like a 100 year rebuild that has been attempted 10 times. So i completely understand, but its one game. lets not after a 5-4 record this team is the worst team ever, going nowhere, and the management is the worst ever. But there should always be criticism. no doubt. always question decisions, because some of the time the people in charge dont know what they are doing. and this could be it here. but im seeing an improvement over last year and i am content with that.
Fitzmagic
I agree that this team is better off now than I figured they’d be at this point. All and all though, I think we can all agree that the fans should be off limits in criticizing the Bills. They are the only part of this franchise that haven’t been third rate for more than a decade.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
exactly.
Criticize all you want, but don’t say this team is last year, when they had 5 wins in 8 games instead of 0.
Fitzmagic
I fully go with this.
We’re harder on the team THIS year than last… I really do think we should lay off a little.
It’s just so damn hard on a day like today.
"The soul collectors are going to be in full charge mode this Sunday" -- abayarde
by Orlando John on Nov 14, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Lots of football left boys....
Buffalo Bills or Die.
Yeah, I mean, the Bills have only played 7 game so far…
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Nov 13, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
niiiiice.
"Teams that don't deserve to win.... usually don’t. Today is no exception." -- Mr Huge Pecs
"Nick Barnett is everywhere. He is behind you right now." -- Munchausen
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 13, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm excited!!!!
For the draft in april. Then we can all get back to saying “just you wait and see, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR YEAR!!!”
Ugh this is so depressing, especially after a promising start. We can’t win every game, but being spanked like this just makes me sad.
Is this your homework, Larry?
I can’t help but think that Josh Reed would be an asset to Gailey’s type of offense. Too bad he’s pretty much done as a player.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 13, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Another underneath possession-type receiver would fit well?
I agree if your goal is oversaturation of redundant talent.
Where u guys going to be send. You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk.
-abayarde
by APhoenixDestiny on Nov 13, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t Roosevelt and Nelson basically fulfill his role?
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 13, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
They have an abundance of those type of receivers. What we don’t have is a deep threat, a guy who can fly. It hurt to lose Easley especially after the Evans trade. If you watched Dallas defense today we could have ripped them to pieces with the long ball but need guys who can get down the field in a hurry, guys who demand both a corner and a safety to open things up. No such player currently on the roster. Also, how about putting Spiller and Jackson in a pro set in the backfield at the same time. Running the football keeps our defense off the field. Come on Chan wake up! Throw some new wrinkles in!
Just got back
Just got home from the game. What a depressing day it was. I was surprised at how many Bills fans there were in attendance and it was very cool to see so many Bills jerseys, shirts, etc scattered around.
But it was also depressing at how pitiful of an effort the team put in today. From the opening drive when the Cowboys just easily marched down the field on them, to the ease with which Bryant just reached over and grabbed that TD from McKelvin, to leaving freaking DeMarcus Ware totally untouched on their opening play.
The Bills were simply unready to play today at all. So frustrating to think how much it cost me to go to that game and how little effort the team seemed to put into it.
On a side note, damn but that stadium in Dallas is beautiful. And how unexpectedly friendly the Cowboys fans were. ((and how expensive parking and concessions were. $39 for parking & shuttle service to the stadium? Yikes!!!))
Delurking.
I’m still cautiously optimistic about the season but I know there are serious questions as to whether or not the team’s treading water or truly going somewhere, so I’m not gonna be too upset if they revert to the mean.
Something I’m more curious about that I’ve wanted to ask fellow Bills fans for a while: does a loss to the Cowboys make you more or less angry than, say, a loss to a longtime rival like the Dolphins or Jets? I’ll go on record as saying that I hate losing to them more than any other team in the league, and yeah it’s definitely in part due to the Super Bowl losses but I certainly can’t stand them or their fans regardless. What about the rest of you?
Personally, a loss to the Jets, Pats, or Fish feels worse to me. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Dallas whatsoever, but they are kind of irrelevant as they are currently constructed. Let’s put it this way: I doubt I’ll ever root for Romo and the Cowboys in the Super Bowl and I doubt I’ll ever root against Tony Romo and the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. They are an also-ran in a conference I don’t particularly find compelling. New England and New York are much closer to mattering: I hate losing to them MUCH more.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
My thoughts...
We are who I thought we were, a very mediocre team. We lack the depth and talent. Until we find a decent pass rusher we are doomed to mediocrity. I knew from the beginning of the season that it just couldn’t last without ever getting to the opposing QB!
I think McKelvin stinks! I think our O-line needs a Left tackle & depth. I think Stevie is a great #2 but I’m not sure he’s worth #1 money. I love every one of our receivers but they all look like #2 & #3 guys out there. I think Stevie is like our Julio Jones so we need our version of Roddy White.
I absolutely love Byrd, he’s improved sooooo much since his rookie year. I think he’s the surest tackler we have!
I also love McGee, I’m glad to see him back.
Man are we going to hurt the next few weeks without Wood.
Is it me or Chan is oblivious to the fact that Chandler catches every pass thrown to him and just keeps making plays. Why the heck don’t they use him more?
I realize that Spiller has not done much for us yet but maybe we could try using him like Woodhead or Welker? Is got speed and he’s got great hands. Chan why don’t you watch some Miami tape because they finally found a way to get Reggy involved, why don’t you try some of those plays with CJ ?
The way we are currently playing and with the injuries starting to mount coupled with the way the Dolphins, Jets, Titans & Broncos are playing… geez, we might not win another game! That’s it, no more drinking for me!!
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
i wonder if our funk has anything to do with the fact we don’t have merriman and kelsey? even if merriman wasn’t great, he played with confidence and kind of infused his teammates with a swagger. the bills don’t seem to be playing with any kind of swagger right now. fitz needs to snap out of his funk. gailey needs to mix it up. i think we have plenty of talent. talent didn’t seem to be a problem while we were winning, so why suddenly is it that we don’t have talent? wilson and bird are great pair of safeties. dareus will be a pro bowler for years. mcgee is above average. we have players on defense, and obviously a few on offense. true, i haven’t been a fan of george edwards, but after that performance in washington, it’s kind of hard to fire a guy—especially when you lead nfl in turnovers and have winning record.
this is really the first real funk the bills have been in this season. let’s see how they respond, now that their backs are against the wall.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
I think
Merriman and Kyle Williams had a lot of this defense’s heart. Nick Barnett and the safeties probably have what’s left of it, but not the lion’s share.
is it me or Barnett has become a non-factor of late? We used to see him making plays and flying around all over the place and it just seems like we don’t really see him anymore?
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
had a lot of this defense’s heart
It’s not heart, it’s scounting – other teams are on to what the Bills try to do and we haven’t made adjustments tou counter their approach – nothing to do with heart
by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 14, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
after that performance in washington, it’s kind of hard to fire a guy
The WAS game was a huge anomaly. The takeway/turnover stat was extremely misleading because it gave everyone a false sense of something good. Reality is and has always been that you need to get to the opposing QB to get the ball back and win games. The Bills were ranked dead last before the WAS game and nothing has changed since, we stink at getting solid pressure on opposing QBs. We need a solid pass-rushing OLD/DE either in the draft of FA. And for the record I want to keep Merriman, most of the money is guaranteed anyway, we might as well give him that extra 1M and hope the surgery was a complete success and that he gets back to his old ways.
As for our offense, in the words of Denis Green: " They are who we taught the were"
Two blow-outs in a row, not good at all. The JETS exposed us for every other team to see. This offense cannot compete against good defenses. As soon as defenses go to man coverage we seem to struggle and Chan doesn’t adjust? Why does he not use Chandler more?
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
wow someone said it
2008 ALL OVER AGAIN IS RIGHT.. WTF!!!!! WE SUCK
AFC East...
Okay… so just wondering… Say we beat the Phins twice, lose to the Jets again, win the rest of our games and then beat the Patriots again at the end of the regular season…. Would that cause another 3-way tie in the AFC East again? And how would the playoffs shape up if that were to happen?
"There's always next year..." -- Rip Van Winkle--
Anyone else nolticed that...
Opposing defenses have caught on to our dink and dunk passing attack?
And that we seemingly cannot do much else, other than hand the ball off to Fred?
And that on 4th and short, we usually go with an EMPTY backfield, thereby advertising that we are going to pass?
That we telegraph when we are blitzing? On one of Dallas’ red zone TD passes, you can hear Romo yelling, “Jason (Witten) stay, Jason stay”. He knew the blitz was coming because we all but announce that it’s coming.
And when we do blitz (not very often), why does it appear that our rushers seem to be looking for linemen to engage? Honestly, look at tape.
Out “play action” passing is awful. There is no deception at all. Yeah, Sanchez is not the greatest, but he is sure is good at play action.
Colin Brown...Pancreas Yellow...
Another Ugly
Dallas game. Beginning to believe its the symbol on their helmet.
Worst observation- The Jets game seemed to carry over to this one, just cant let that happen.
Simplest observation- Its only 1(2) games & boy they better squish those fish on Sunday.
"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420
by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 14, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions
Perspective
Last year at this point the record was 1-8. This year it’s 5-4 and they are in the thick of the playoff hunt. Anything can happen week to week. As bad as the last two games have been, there is no reason to believe that this team is going to collapse.
While there is so much to complain about, there is also reason to believe they will get this thing turned around. Gailey will need to get past page 5 in the playbook and start running some different plays. He is smart enough to get the most out of the talent on O and I think he will. On the defensive side of the ball, Edwards has to manufacture pressure on the QB. Gailey made it clear that the gameplan yesterday didn’t call for a lot of blitzing…. Because of it the corners were expected to cover forever and Romo either escaped the one rusher who made it through of just stood back there and picked the secondary a part. CB play has been lacking, but aside from the TD Florence gave up, I didn’t find it terrible watching it the first time. If Edwards can slow the bleeding and Chan gets the offense rolling again, they will turn it around. Now is not the time to panic. If they get blown out in Miami, then I’ll be singing a different tune,
Perspective
My perspective is that we got better as the year went on last year…this year, we are getting worse. That’s a bad trend. Yes, there’s reason to think Gailey will get it turned around, but there’s also reason to think that he won’t.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
but aside from the TD Florence gave up
How ’bout the one where McKelvin got totally schooled by Dez Bryant? I think that was the Boys first TD of the day.
"Teams that don't deserve to win.... usually don’t. Today is no exception." -- Mr Huge Pecs
"Nick Barnett is everywhere. He is behind you right now." -- Munchausen
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