Bills fans need to be Patient and Billieve (Myself included)
Buffalo has been one of the worst teams over the last decade. It has a lot to do with bad coaches and general managers. Buffalo has a lot of bad drafts that have left the team with not a lot of talent when it comes to Sunday. When Buddy took over the cupboards where more than bare, the foundation was cracked and the land needed to be cleared. Buffalo's situation and lack of talent can only really be compared to one team over the last decade. That is the Detroit lions both teams suffered a lot from bad general managers. General Managers that did almost nothing but put the guy in front of him in an even deep hole. NFL.com even did a good data points piece a while back about who was the worst team over the last decade. Detroit had Matt Millen and we have had Marv Levy and all the other clowns at general manager. We both had lots of first round busts from all of Millen’s receivers to Buffalo’s Aaron Maybin.
Detroit until recently had the same problem as buffalo faces now. The team has little elite talent and that makes it hard to compete on game day. Detroit had to draft well for three years before they really improved and that included hitting on three high draft picks. We all know who those guys are Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson, and Ndamukong Suh three highly talented guys that have helped propel their team into success. Buffalo has picked the big stud defensive lineman that we needed. Marcell Dareus who is already commanding double teams on Sunday. When Kyle Williams comes back next season healthy buffalo defensive line will be a force to be reckoned with. Alex Carrington has been coming along nicely and looks to be a possible great draft pick. Buffalo's defensive line may yet benefit from the injured Kyle Williams. The young lineman will learn the best when they are fighting in the trenches each Sunday. With the depth they have becoming more experienced the defensive line should be able to rotate and stay fresh on game day.
Quarterback is still a postion of need for buffalo. Fitzpatrick is a stop gap and despite the confidence from gailey that is what he is. Buffalo is still in the market for a elite franchise level quarterback. Fitzpatrick contract was structured so that buffalo could still draft a quarterback whenever they want. He is not getting paid so much that you can not draft a guy and let him sit behind Fitzpatrick. There are a range of talented prospects that really range in what they bring to the table. Andrew Luck is out of the question but there is still Landry Jones, Matt Barkley , and RobertGriffin if he comes out for the draft. Despite the success of recent quarterbacks playing from the start sitting a guy can really benefit a guy. Aaron Rodgers benefitted from sitting behind Farve for three years but do not take it from me take it from the man himself
Aaron rodgers on sitting behind Farve via ESPN
“It allowed me to get my body in the kind of shape I wanted to get in. But more importantly to become an expert in our offense and to study defenses. If you talk to those guys you mentioned playing right now in a couple years, they’ll probably say, ‘Man, I didn’treally know anything or know what I was doing as a rookie.’ Because the game just really starts to open up to you after a couple offseasons. You do a lot of self-scout study and you study defense and then you can really I think become a very quick reactor. Those guys getting the experience early, they’ll be able to see a lot of looks. You really start to get that comfort level the more looks you see and the more time you study in the offseason.”
If we look back at the Detroit lines it is easy to tell that the bills are still two good drafts from being competiveweek in week out. Should Buffalo take a quarterback in the next draft or would it be a better ideato have the team in order whe he arrives. If buffalo ends up with a high draft pick it may be one of the last good times they have to nab a quarterback. If we let him sit for a threeyears the team would be order and ready for him to take the reins. He would better read defenses and understand the offense plus having the time to get his body into proper shape.
Depth is our other problem and that can be solved in two ways. One is drafting for depth in mid to late rounds and building them up over years. This takes time but is a very effective way to build up our depth and is a good way to help guarentee long term success. The other way is to sign certain depth players through free agency. Good depth players are not always avaible come free agency time. In the long run we have to be patient bills fans. Buddy and Chan are not trying to rebuild the house that is the Bills. They are having to build it from the ground up starting a house from scratch takes alotlonger also. In the league today it is what have you done for me latly league Chan and Buddy may not have to time to compltly build the bills back up if we run them out of town. It is painful to lose like we have but we have to billieve.
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Great Post
I agree with you 100%.
We need to be patient.
I think next year will be another 8 – 8 or 9 – 7 year, but year after that we should ready to contend for the playoffs annually. It will be interesting to see what OBD does with Stevie, if Stevie wants to chase money or wants to stay in Buffalo. I think OBD needs to keep Stevie, but not overpay for him, he has proved this year that he is a #2 receiver.
I am going to go out and say this, hopefully I don’t get killed, but it may not be a bad time to try and trade Fred Jackson, his value will be at an all time high, and maybe we can get a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him. He only has 1 possibly 2 more good years in him.
wouldnt trade fred-ex for anything he is a great leader for this team a draft pick cant replace that
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For anything?
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing
Leadership is a quality that cant be replaced with picks. What kind of message would that show the young ones play good be a leador and we’ll trade you
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by Gpluehri on Nov 22, 2011 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was not patient yesterday but was thinking and wrote the article and really thought about some things. I would just ride out freddy’s good years unless someone offers a palmer like deal.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
All good food for thought Matt62. Thanks for the post.
My point is that drafting alone will not do it. The Bills would be waiting 30 years for a playoff berth if we relied solely on that.
We need “Quality” free agents picked up this offseason.
And a good draft next year.
And our 2010 draft to actually start doing something.
And flying pigs. And Skiing in hell.
And……….. and………. and………….
Dammit!
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions
yah quality free agents are a must.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 22, 2011 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Patient
Been a fan since early seventies, patience kinda gets tested after a decade of mediocre. Somebody please turn this franchise around!
hard to digest, but this could be the reality
nix might be over-whelmed by being a GM, this franchise might not be good till we get the next GM.
gailey looks like he has a plan going into the season. if it is figured out then he has no other plan… we might have to wait till our next coach, to be optimistic…
earliest both these guys are out looks like not before the end of 2013… hope for the new GM and new coach to be young, hungry and good for the 2014 season…
by statcruncher on Nov 22, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Patience is difficult
I read the same argument over and over again, give Buddy Nix a chance. Is Buddy actually doing anything to turn the Bills around and make them a winning franchise. Dareus fell in his lap. Last year he selected CJ, what has he done to show us that he will even be around in 2-3 years. He may have been great at Clemson, but he has done nothing in the NFL. Troup looks like a back up at best. Carrington does appear to show some promise. Dareus is good, but as I said he fell in Buffalo’s lap. Williams is not an NFL shut down corner, he is possibly a safety, an area where the Bills actually have some depth. Shepard is felt to lack athleticism to be a dominate ILB. My point is, what has Nix drafted that can step up and take this team to the promise land? Nix, if he truly is making the calls, has done nothing to solidify any position on this team except to add un-drfated free agents and castaways not good enough to make other teams. When you collect other people’s trash you have exactly that, other people’s trash. Buffalo is putting trash on the field year after year. Buffalo can not win because you are depending on players that are not good enough anywhere else in the league to get the job done.
Personally, I see a common denominator over the past decade plus of failure and that is the front office. Does every coach and every general manager that the Bills have had make such horrific decisions or are the draft picks and lack of spending being directed from the front office. Maybe if The ticket sales man wasn’t running this team they would be able to turn it around in a couple of years. If you want to be patient and build through the draft, good luck because I don’t see Buddy Nix’s picks rocking the NFL
by popey on Nov 22, 2011 7:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree with popey
Those who are calling for patience at this time are, or have been:
a) Bills fans for less than a decade
b) Not watching very closely
c) On something fairly potent
d) All or some of the above
This team has exhausted me for yet another season. How bad are they? They are just a game out of the wild card, and appear absolutely helpless and maybe the worst team this side of Indiana (and the other side, too).
I have no more patience, and I tire of hearing the same old lines, i.e., let’s give management one more year, or let’s wait another year for our picks to develop. You can, not me.
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by ChipShot on Nov 22, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What makes it right for you to assume any of these things about anyone. Your response brings nothing but hate and prejudice to a well thought out article but also popeys articles. This is to popey I like the last draft you can assume all those things. You also act like everything you say is fact. When nothing you said can be proved. We want to talk about cliches chipshot. I am sick of the I am old I have been a fan for a long time. I do not have to have patients for the bills. If thats what you think I got an easy solution be a packers fan. I am sure that band wagon is getting big. Everyone expects instant success but this team has been drafting bad for almost 20 years now. To expect a turn around in two seasons of that is crazy.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 22, 2011 9:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Should say.
Popeys response.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 22, 2011 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"This team has been drafting bad for almost 20 years"
Well not exactly 20 years, put you just validated my whole point. This team has been drafting bad since the end of the Superbowl runs. Seems like there must be a common denominator in there somewhere. Every single GM since Butler can not really be that bad and make such horrible picks year in and year out. My pointing out the failures/ probable failures in the last 2 drafts were just making a point that it doesn’t seem to get any better. I am a Bills fan and have been since the late 70’s and will remain one until the day I die (or they do) I’m not going anywhere, I’m just tired of the same front office failure year in and year out with no progress.
by popey on Nov 23, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do not think so look at my example the detroit lions. They where bad for so long and yet are successful through good drafting. They are improving and will continue to improve. You made no point because your point includes all of nix’s picks suck sept for dareus and he does not get credit for that one. That is a big assumption with this years draft class especially. Assuming aaron williamd can not play corner. Sheppard not able to be dominant due to no athletecism. Open up your eyes form your own opinion and stop spouting off espn draft profiles.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Successful through good drafting"
Enough said.
by popey on Nov 23, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What proof do you have that nix is not drafting well besides the pick of cj spiller. Which we all know has gailey all over it. Everyone knows you can not accuratly judge a draft till three years after it. Yet you Have wriitten off the whole last two drafts as busts already. We can stop talking about patience and being way to quick to judge.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh and you say ralph can not have bad luck whats been wrong with them so long. What changed in detroit besides gms and coaches. Obviously they made some bad gm decisions. I do not see why buffalo had to have someone thats not that bad. It is possible and it is hard to find a good gm. Especially when the owner tried to control the team himself for so long.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Foul
Your questioning his fandom? Like you he’s entitled to his opinion, doesn’t make him less of a fan.
by buffalobacker on Nov 23, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I never said it did or questioned his fandom. he said I am tired of waiting I have been a bills fan forever. It will take time to right our ship and become a winning team no matter who is coach and general manager. I just offered a solutiom to waiting. If I was questioning anyone as a fan it would be extremly clear. Like starting off your not a real fan or your a tshirt fan for example.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
im calling for patience and i have been a bills fan for 22 years
i watch every game closely
dont do drugs
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by Gpluehri on Nov 23, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We have no other choice
Calling for patience is the only justifiable answer.
Remember this was a 3 – 5 year turn around/rebuild
by the buffahoe on Nov 23, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
im calling for patience and i have been a bills fan for 22 years
exactly – that statement is a load of B.S.
by J2 on Nov 23, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Those who are calling for patience at this time are, or have been:
a) Bills fans for less than a decade
wow – that’s not even close to true – i’ve been a Bills fan for 25 years and I think patience is required.
I’m not going to let past regime failures get in the way of letting Nix’s strategy play out – I always try and be objective on things like that. Am I happy we haven’t done squat since Flutie got screwed over? Hell no – but I’m more than willing to give this guy a shot at it because if we don’t then we’ll just piss and moan for the next 2 years and that’s not why I’m a fan
by J2 on Nov 23, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AGREED
every sunday i have to sit near PCP because of the continous lapse in heart beats .. patience is one thing .. but a decade pluse.. even the titans made it to the chips ..i really billieve that we are like a DT LB Shut Down Corner away from the chips .. with a twist of a Pure Deep Threat Reciever …. umm and a 3 Peice bucket of Linemen .. =)
I can't figure out why???????
People think Gailey and Nix are so perfect they don’t deserve some scrutiny.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 23, 2011 7:43 AM EST reply actions
Did I say he was perfect did I say they did not deserve scrutiny. All I said was be patient and look how many good drafts detroit had to.have before turning around. The only team that has been as bad as us before you run them out of town with pitch forks.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brandon and Overdork are the ones that need to be run out
I blame Brandon and Overdorf for the mediocrity of this team far more than I blame Nix or Gailey. Nix and Gailey can only do so much with what they have. Brandon and Overdorf appear to call way too many shots for any general manager to be successful. Don’t you think that GM after GM and coach after coach have been unsuccessful with this team? Do you not scratch your head and wonder why they make questionable pick after questionable pick while passing up good players? Is Ralph Wilson’s luck so bad that he selects bad GM after bad GM? Do you have any wonder why GM after GM and coach after coach as well as good players turn down any opportunity to come to Buffalo? Most likely it is the meddling that goes on from the front office more than anything else. I truly believe that this team is being run by a glorified ticket salesman and they will go no where as long as he is in control.
Only one coach turned truly turned us down that we know off and that is brian schottenhiemer. He knew he was not ready to be a head coach so he denied an interview. Shanny wanted complte control just used us for better washington deal where he would be in control of more things. Gms tend to get.promoted from within
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And ralph wanted a football guy to take control of the team. Ralph made bad decisions.on guys he could control and utilize the team he wanted. After almost 20 years of bad decisions he finnaly is not sticking his know in to mess things up.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 11:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Buddy is the football guy he. Finnaly gave control of the team to.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did I say he was perfect did I say they did not deserve scrutiny
Was not saying you did. But to me it looks like so many people want to make excuses for them and have some weird vision that Gailey is this offensive genius that could never do no wrong and that Nix is this mastermind where if we just keep waiting all these picks he made are gonna finally turn into superstars. I sometimes think people act like Nix and Gailey have won super bowl rings with other organizations before and can surely do this. I’m not saying they can’t do it or should be fired, but I think you can definitely question a bunch of things they done so far and wonder if it was wise.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 23, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ok you just threw me off there is all. Understand it now and yes some people act like their perfect. Buddy letting chan talk him into.picking cj bad move by both parts. I think he has potential but was a bad first move.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 23, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this week is cj's we'll see how it pans out
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CJ SPILLER
So hypothetically speaking .. if CJ Spiller were to have some MONSTOUS break out game against the Jets and we win because of it, would you make a rebutle that it was a fluke or would you say it has only been one game?

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