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Poll: What Is The Buffalo Bills' Biggest Problem Right Now?

I've been asked over the past several days about what I believe is the biggest on-field issue facing the Buffalo Bills right now. I know how I've been answering the question, but grew curious as to how the fan base is addressing it. Hence this poll.

First thing's first: this question is specific to the 2011 Bills. The types of things we talk about in the off-season - Ralph Wilson, Buddy Nix, ineffective drafting, free agency acquisitions, the scouting department, et al - are not part of this discussion. We're asking about the biggest problem facing the Bills team that is still trying to make the playoffs. This is an on-field discussion.

In an effort to not list every positional group, player and coach on this poll, I've tried to boil it down to four key areas: quarterback play, the pass rush, a ridiculously lengthy injury list and coaching decisions and scheme. After the jump, we'll talk about those four areas - and some will include other areas that I'm sure many of you are thinking of - and you'll find the poll after the click, as well.

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Quarterback Play. As we discussed earlier this week, Ryan Fitzpatrick has really struggled since signing a six-year, $59 million contract extension on October 30. In the last three games, Fitzpatrick has looked skittish and indecisive behind the line, and though he hasn't gotten much help around him, he's thrown seven interceptions to just two touchdowns as the Bills have scored just 26 points.

For many NFL teams, they go as their quarterback goes, and while things have been falling apart around him, Fitzpatrick has not been able to shoulder the load and elevate the players around him. Instead, he flounders as the team flounders, or he excels as the team excels.

No Pass Rush. In a Week 8 win over the Washington Redskins, the Bills recorded a whopping 10 sacks on Redskins quarterback John Beck. In the nine other games the Bills have played, they've recorded just six more sacks.

But sacks aren't the big problem; the team is unable to generate any pressure on opposing quarterbacks. The widespread belief is that this issue has led to the team's massive slip defending the pass, particularly from a group of cornerbacks that was largely good in 2010, and which has largely been terrible in 2011. Blitzes don't work, there are no natural pass-rushing prospects currently on the active roster, and in the last three weeks, the not-so-elite trio of Mark Sanchez, Tony Romo and Matt Moore have combined to complete an absurd 77 percent of their passes for 660 yards, seven touchdowns and just one gimme interception from Sanchez. This defense is getting torched by mediocre-to-good quarterbacks; imagine what would happen right now if they played someone great.

Injuries. This one is pretty self-explanatory. The list of players on Injured Reserve contains five opening-day starters (Donald Jones, Eric Wood, Kyle Williams, Shawne Merriman and Terrence McGee), as well as two more players that were slated to have significant roles (Roscoe Parrish and Marcus Easley).

On top of that, several more key contributors - Fred Jackson, Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Demetrius Bell, Chris Hairston, Spencer Johnson, Chris Kelsay, Aaron Williams and George Wilson - have missed varying degrees of time, or been noticeably hampered by their own injuries. It's led to positional instability in several areas - most prominently along the offensive line - and made it very difficult for the team to establish any week-to-week continuity. Not only are the Bills working to beat an opponent every week, they're also trying to fill in their own holes created by injuries.

Coaching. This week alone, we've talked about the growing fan animosity towards defensive coordinator George Edwards, as well as the fact that Chan Gailey is now admitting to making mistakes with his personnel. The team has been solved in recent weeks, and Gailey and his coaching staff have been unable to counter with new wrinkles of their own.

The offense is sputtering, struggling to get receivers open and not getting the ball enough to star tailback Fred Jackson. The defense is getting gashed by passers and rushers alike. Perhaps most alarmingly, however, the team has not even been competitive in the month of November, getting blown out by a combined score of 106-26 and accused by opposing players of laying down early in ball games. Losing is never acceptable, but not showing up to play for three straight games during a playoff race is even more abhorrent.

Poll
What is the biggest problem currently facing the sliding Buffalo Bills on the field?
Quarterback play
82 votes
Lack of a pass rush
372 votes
Injuries
390 votes
Coaching
165 votes

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if i were to break it down

Is say pass rush, hands down, on defense and coaching on offense. Without a passrush the secondary (although not playing up to par themselves) has been left out to dry. The past few weeks quarterbacks have had all day to throw. It’s been downright ridiculous.

Offensively the playcalling has been atrocious. Gailey MUST realize everyone has figured out the spread and also MUST make Fred Jackson the focal point of the offense, period. Fitzpatrick has been good enough to win games, but he’s not good enough to completely carry this team on his shoulders. Feed it to Fred. He has shown with the ball in his hands he can make things happen. We need more traditional offensive looks with c-mac back in as a lead blocker.

by bizarro bills on Nov 23, 2011 11:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agree with most of what you said. One problem – McIntyre is not a good blocker.

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

He is OKAY at blocking… But I agree… There are a ton of situations where he is our lead blocker and he is GREAT and getting in the way… The only problem is he is a converted LB from college, and he more less just gets in the way… I am still not sure if Jackson cuts sometimes, but he doesn’t seem to follow his blockers too well, and I can’t blame him, he’s been running without them for a long time. For a fullback, I’d give C-Mac a 3 of 5 for blocking… which isn’t horrible, but considering our WR don’t block on any run play, it’s not horrible.

by primetimemjg on Nov 23, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Fullback is not a complicated position, and Mac had lots of game time at FB before this year. He whiffed on way too many blocks to deserve a spot on the offensive 11. I can see using him sparingly, but not frequently.

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

I said coaching. On both sides of the ball. Defensive schemes are vanilla. Teams have figured out how to beat the spread, and Gailey keeps trying it. Time to adjust.

by LABillsFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

that is so true, if players dont believe in the game plan and see were adjustments can work ,they lose trust in coachs and lose faith when plays dont work

by D. P. on Nov 23, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Injuries or not...

Fitz has played up and down – his OL and WRs have not played up to par in the past few weeks. QBs who start drives knowing their defense will give up points will try to score points and force plays. But hes not the biggest problem…

Injuries happen to ALL NFL teams. GB won the Super Bowl without Jermichael Finley or Barnett. Injuries alone don’t cause a team to lose (provided they have DEPTH).

Coaching on the offensive side of the ball has been good – great at times and poor at others but overall good. Edwards (DC) hasn’t gotten a scheme that can stop a high school team right now. This is a close # 2.

However, our lack of a pass rush has let QBs get comfortable and pick our CBs apart. A pass rush upsets the rhytem and confidence of a QB which affects plays even when there is no pass rush.

We need to get to the QB….

by BuffaloFanFromCT on Nov 23, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Draft picks not performing and the lack of quality dept....

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by Goose22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I’d score the depth thing under the injuries choice, for obvious reasons.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

It is beyond belief on how many injuries the Bills continue to have every year.

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by Goose22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think draft picks not playing would be more accurate. Spiller has performed when given the opportunity this season. Moats and batten are who they are, and carrington has actually done well after coming from a small school.

by bizarro bills on Nov 23, 2011 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Again, the draft pick thing is a separate, off-season type of discussion. If you’re stuck in that frame of mind, then the injuries/depth choice is probably the way to go.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Injuries

Injuries have impacted pass-rush and QB play. Obviously there are components ot these two things that are not the result of injury, but given how pervasive the impact of injuries I have to start there.

Our pass-rush wasn’t good the first 5 games, but injuries have obliterated it since then. I think when Williams and YES Merriman were in there there was more pressure on the QB, even if it didnt manifest in more sacks. At least at the end of the play the QB might take a lick or be forced to evade the rusher throw-a-away the pass. Now I get the sense coordinators and QBs are not worried at all. Just all day back there. Blue sky.

The upheaval on the line and in the WR corp are also the result of injuries and they’ve been a big part of Fitz’s bad play. He doesn’t look as comfortable in the pocket, the center play clearly rattled him as that Miami game saw by my eye way more absurdly inaccurate passes (two would be TDs), and the group as a whole seems like it has to think a lot more about whats going on than in the past.

Its a mess.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Injuries

Thet happen to all teams. We just lack in talent everywhere top to bottom,waiting for a change, patiently!

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by buffalobacker on Nov 23, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

OWNERSHIP

Easiest questions of the year.

by Berg79 on Nov 23, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Granted that wasn’t an option in the poll.

by Berg79 on Nov 23, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

That, and I wrote an entire paragraph about why it’s not an option in the poll. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes you did and my post is probably misplaced (my bad). I still feel the biggest problem with the 2011 Bills is ownership. It will be the same problem with 2012 Bills etc. I think this exact team coaching, personell etc produces better on the field results with a different owner. Having confidence in your superiors is something that helps in every avenue of business. It makes you work harder when no one is watching, care more, do little things that help the overall unit suceed. It is a big factor in successful sales forces, or productive management teams. I believe the most successful franchises our ones that the players/coaches want to show their worth to their owner (Pats/Steelers are best example).

by Berg79 on Nov 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we all know ownership is an issue. But the fact of the matter is that shoulda, coulda, wouldas don’t help the team on the field get wins. We only have the guys on the field to go by in terms of deficiencies.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

. It makes you work harder when no one is watching, care more, do little things that help the overall unit suceed.

Like it or not, football players are more like mercenaries than Joe Punchclock’s. They should be motivated by winning and the buckets they get paid. Almost every player is playing for their next contract.

If these guys can’t play well because they don’t believe in the owner – then we have the wrong players – not the wrong owner.

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I pick E, Lack of talent and depth

I’ll give you a medical analogy. A man has prostate cancer, which leads to bladder obstruction, which leads to kidney failure, which leads to congestive heart failure. The proximate cause of death is because of a bad heart, but it’s foolish to say the man would be healthy if his heart was strong.

It all leads back to the front office and Nix.

by Rick A on Nov 23, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You should be picking Injuries, because the injuries exposed the lack of depth. At least, that’s my best logical extrapolation.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

But there were some obvious areas that Nix could have fortified in the offseason. Here’s one example. There were a zilliion running backs available in free agency… Marion Barber, Ricky Williams, even Willis McGahee to name a few. The Bills could have picked one up cheaply. Freddy’s hurting, no surprise considering the way he runs. What’s Gailey going to do now?

by Rick A on Nov 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah RB was never going to happen. Two recent draft picks on the roster, no one identifies that as a need to signing an aging vet. Especially when we’ve got an older guy in Freddy. We would have had to either cut White or Spiller.

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by greysquirrel on Nov 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

no one identifies that as a need

squirrel, you’ve nailed the problem!

It was obvious at the end of last season that there would be big problems if Jackson went down. And if the Bills signed a FA, what’s the worst that could have happened? They cut him at the end of camp and be out a small signing bonus?

by Rick A on Nov 23, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

 How is another running back going to resolve our passing game woes? How is he going to fix our gawd awful defense?

Why don’t you wait to see how we do without Jackson before you play that card, anyway?

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

McGahee was never going to come back to Buffalo. And I would lose respect for the organization if they made that move. That guy is a thankless, classless, TD-scoring grade-A a-hole with a zillions swimmers.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The predictability of our offensive playcalling.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

So coaching, then. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Herding cats?

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by greysquirrel on Nov 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

PLAY CALLING!!

Fitzpatrick has statistically not been there, but keep in mind a lot of his interceptions are happening off of tipped balls. Not saying that some of them haven’t been thrown off target, but you can’t let balls loose that hit you in both hands, or the chest.
Our depth is horrid. We have no depth at LB, which is horrible for a 3-4 (or are we a 3.5-3.5??).

In all honestly my biggest on field concern with this Buffalo team is the play calling, on both sides of the field. The offensive play calling is not there… It’s so bad that I can determine which plays we are going to run about 9 out of 10 times. I played 2 years of JV football, and have been a Bills fan since I was 8 (about 16 years I’ve been watching now), and I can call our offensive plays… How do they think a defensive coordinater isn’t figuring us out?

Our defensive play calling is not focusing on our strong point of the defense… DAREUS. He is single handedly stopping the run up the middle, and they double team him every play. Our coordinator should be able to build a pass rush around this by effectively designing blitz patterns for our linebackers… Yet this does NOT happen. Instead, we drop into some weird zone coverage, bring in a safety and blitz a corner or something that would work in Madden I’m guessing?? It’s just not working. We cannot stop anything 5-15 yards down the field, and when teams realize it, they will start to destroy us.

That’s my vote… Play calling.

Mike

by primetimemjg on Nov 23, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Pass Rush for sure.

In our last 4 losses, NYG, NYJ, Dal, Mia… These have been the stats for the QB’s.

Eli Manning: 66% 0 sacks
Mark Sanchez: 71% 1 sack
Tony Romo: 88% 0 sacks
Matt Moore: 71% 1 sack

QB’s have all day to sit back there and complete passes, I know our Pass D hasnt been the best, but you cant cover for 4-5 seconds.

Fitz = M(C)²
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by bflo on Nov 23, 2011 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

There should have been 2 sacks! Remember when Moore fell off the snap! Count it!

by primetimemjg on Nov 23, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Want me to count them kneeling it too? lol

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by bflo on Nov 23, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

This would have been my first choice. Needed to be on the list, IMO.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm always amazed when I hear about how good players are that really aren't or haven't proven anything.

Don Jones is going to be awesome! Aiken is going to get a chance to be our #2… yes, a guy who couldn’t beat out Donald Jones is going to be the cure-all. For every Stevie Johnson there’s a Sam Aiken and Johnathan Smith and Bobby Shaw and James Hardy and the Dereks and so on and so on.

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by twoeightnine on Nov 23, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not even sold on Stevie Johnson as much as others. I think he’s a guy that doesn’t have a whole lot of competition to steal his reps. He drops too many passes. What he does do is run impeccable routes.

Fred Jackson is their race horse. He’s the face of the 2011 Bills. He’s the reason anyone’s still paying any attention to them, IMO. And that’s because he’s so damned good.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it earlier, he's a great #2 but

he need’s a top flight game changing WR ahead of him to make him into that.

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by twoeightnine on Nov 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I was quick to criticize Lee Evans, but what he did was make Stevie Johnson a bit of a stud.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was quick to criticize Lee Evans, but what he did was make Stevie Johnson a bit of a stud.

I think a lot of people underestimated Lee’s impact. I kept hearing from people how Lee doesn’t open up the field for Stevie – well, he clearly did and it wasn’t that difficult to see it either

by J2 on Nov 23, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

How is this clear?

He’s been solid in most games without Lee. He’s also been injured at times this year. It’s like saying the last two games the offense stunk without Lee. I find that difficult to believe given how productive it was earlier in the year.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s crystal clear – that’s how. :)

we have no deep threat and once teams figured that out and stopped playing the deep ball our offense crawled. Lee would have made defenses respect us and that would have kept the stuff underneath open.

by J2 on Nov 23, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He hasn’t really been that “solid”…he’s had a couple of good games this year, but just as many missed opportunities, drops, and poor games. He really hasn’t done much (yes, he’s been hobbled with an injury).

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by stetzwebs on Nov 23, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Argh, that trade still bugs me to no end…

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 23, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I went with coaching as it seems to best fit my complaint. My beef is with the defense.

The better defenses seem to have pre-snap movement. They originally set up in one look but several players shift to present a new look. This is not done every single play, but those defenses do it often enough to put some hesitation and doubt into the minds of the O players.

Overload blitzing, that is more rushers to one side of the offense, is effective and underutilized here.

This defense seems to be of the read-and-react variety. Historically these defenses give up yards, TOP etc, but prevent TDs. Problem is most defensive players are taught to be aggressive in their play. Read-and -react curtails this “instinct” and seems to make the Bills players a step late to where they should be.

I want most of the D-men flying to the ball, not thinking about more than one thing. The MLB (play caller) should be analyzing and adjusting the D and then the other guys just do it.

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by Buffalo for Eternity on Nov 23, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

i can't choose

we face all of these problems at each games but we saw them at their top level on the last three games.when we have only one or two problems on a game we are close to the other team.on sunday we must have a good QB,pressure, healthy players and a good coaching in we don’t want to be destroyed again

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Prediction for 2011; 9-7 and a wild card ticket
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by le f07 on Nov 23, 2011 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Continued . . .

Brian obviously chose four areas that are all problematic at the moment, but if I had to chose one it would clearly be pass rush. If we had a decent pass rush, opposing teams wouldn’t be scoring as easily on us, our offense wouldn’t be playing from behind as often (which would give Gailey the chance to use his running game more), opposing defenses wouldn’t be able to come after Fitz as easily (since they would have to respect the run), George Edwards would have many more options at his disposal, and injuries wouldn’t matter as much.

Fitz needs to play better, the o-line has to get its act together, players have to step up to replace those who have been lost to IR, the coaches should be more creative. All those things are true. But none of them matter as much as the total lack of a pass rush.

by Macktruck on Nov 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

one beast at OLB

we must grab one, good read thaks

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by le f07 on Nov 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Depth...

Injuries and depth.

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by Rob B on Nov 23, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I voted coaching...

simply because when the coach stands at the podium and says he doesnt know what the problem is with this team or he would fix it, that is a problem! I feel the problem is the injuries piling up and no good players (or players with heart and fight) to back fill. Why cant he see it?

by Billsfanatic on Nov 23, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Injuries

This is a great poll to run right now. Quarterback play, pass rush, and coaching are all unquestionably impacted by injuries, hands down. All of the injuries negatively impacted this team, but when they lost the anchors-Wood and K. Williams-the season went in the tank.

by Mkas on Nov 23, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

Just reiterating what has been said above, but I think it’s the pass rush. I think our troubles stem from the defense…when our defense makes stops consistently (well, gets TOs), our offense played better. Our lack of pass rush has created a void in the TOs, and as a result, we are allowing other teams to score at will. I blame the defense mostly, and the reason is the lack of pass rush.

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by stetzwebs on Nov 23, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

1 major option missing

i would say the biggest problem right now is the complete lack of ability to stretch the field vertically in offense….

we had no durable speed talent to begin with… evans was traded, parrish gets injured all the time, i dont know what jones has proved to be considered our starting X receiver, he is just a place holder, nelson doesnt have speed and johnson is really not a consistent deep threat, he is an all-around receiver…

secondly, even if we had speed receivers, we never had the offensive line to give the qb time… this line looks good only because it is asked to hold for 2 seconds instead of 3 seconds…

if it were me, i would pick riley reiff, LT in the 1st round, and cordy glenn, RG in the 2nd round, go back to pro-style offense… that will actually take care of defense too

by statcruncher on Nov 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

if we pick OL in 1-2 like i said, our Oline can run power running football, control game clock, always run spread whenever we want, draft couple speed receivers later in the draft to stretch the field…

then the focus will be totally on fitz… if he succeeds with this OL, then the defense is bailed out… the defense will be better at rushing the opponent like we were earlier in the year… that’s my major problem with this team

by statcruncher on Nov 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i wish vertical stretch was an option too

but i dont think at this point o-line draft picks, no matter how good, will help us here.

WR talent is what we need…

by lord gloom on Nov 23, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i respectfully disagree

the only reason it appears so is because the Oline has been looking good…. i have no confidence in the Oline to hold up consistently in a pro-style offense…

the reason why adding oline talent wil help is because the defenses cannot focus on just one thing we do… if they defend spread, we can run with power or protect longer for our deep WRs to get a chance… only reason this team is so demoralized is because it is not able to do anything on offense…

secondly, you dont need a 1st or 2nd round WR, you get speedy WRs in later rounds all the time… just look around the league… infact i get the feeling, Nix has slowed down our WR group so much in looking for just good-natured guys…

by statcruncher on Nov 23, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Easily the pass rush... or lack thereof

Opposing quarterbacks have all day to throw without even the slightest fear of being hit. Even the best cornerbacks can’t cover a guy forever. This is leading to unusually high completion percentages and early scores. Once the Bills fall so far behind so quickly, whatever game plan Chan Gailey prepared on offense is out the window. Dallas and Miami scored touchdowns on nearly every first half possession. Once that happens, you’re forced into a pass-heavy offense, and the offensive line is now looking at up to seven guys with their ears pinned back, going full-on after the quarterback.

If the defense could keep us in some of these games, the erratic play of Fitzpatrick might still win us a few.

by SiriusRed on Nov 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Aren’t they all somewhat interlinked?

I picked QB play. While I still feel Fred Jackson is the heart and soul of the team and the biggest factor to their hot start, it’s hard not to notice that the games they’ve lost recently match up with Fitzpatrick sliding back down where he’s tended to sit. I think he had been playing well above his ceiling and there was no way he could maintain the level of play he saw. So I think Fred proved unbeatable when Fitzy provided that added element of a high-scoring, efficient passing attack.

But part of that lies in coaching. Gailey needs to have a backup plan for the way he uses he QBs skills. At this point I have to wonder if he’s thrown his arms up in the air and telling Fitzpatrick to just wing it as he sees fit.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

fools ! ;)

without kyle, there can BE no pass rush. how could there be? opposing qb just hides in the pocket.
without wood, freddy’s goin’ nowhere, and no qbing or coaching will fix the O.

the coach CAN see the problem, without using his #(*& glasses already. he’s just not the kind of guy to throw buddy under the bus, in PUBLIC, for not having built SB level depth in 2 years.

the team is minus their top 2, most essential players, and in big trouble. they will adjust, again and again, and win just a few more. now "quit yer whinin’ " or they’ll replace thiese guyz with bum’s that’d make dick & trent look good !

oh, and have a delightful halloween while yer at it. :-)

by Stevie Kane on Nov 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

turkey day

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420

by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 23, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like someone might have undercooked their giblet gravy.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You know injuries is winning the poll, right?

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i was wrong. Pass rush is first. Injuries are a close second.

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably all of the above, I went with coaching.

Before the season there was not an indentified playmaker on the team. Fred Jackson stepped up an took that role. His screen plays are or were a thing of beauty. No one else has stepped forward. An arguement can be made towards David Nelson or Scott Chandler but the offense hasn’t exactly zero’d in on those two, like a Welker or a Whitten we are still trying to run the same offense as the first six weeks and defenses are up to speed with us.

Pass Rush is what it is. We come up with ten sacks in one game to little to no pressure in the following three. Not sure how this can’t be addressed by coaching to at least disquise things to keep the pressure at least a thought.

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by VanScottM on Nov 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

i said coaching because they need to adjust to stop the bleeding and they have so far failed to adjust.

after that, yes our pass rush is terrible.

i may be dreaming, but i’d like the bills to go after peyton manning. in the draft we need to get a linebacker and or defensive end that can rush the passer. an elite or very good cb, and a wr that can be a star.

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by chaucer on Nov 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

too many injuries lacking experienced depth

pass rush is large too as qb’s completing 70-80+% is a formula for defeat. But is it the players or coaches not putting them in a position for success? The DL is strong but unless its #78 you cant expect huge pressure. Blitz those hungry, fast young backers, dont drop them in coverage! Further please never blitz #31 again, leave him in coverage & let the bigger LB’s hunt down the qb.

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by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 23, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Pass Rush

We need Aaron Schobel back!!

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by lostlasvegan on Nov 23, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

Coaching and I'll explain why

In fact it’s all of the choices but that’s exactly why we hire good coaches.

Fitz has been struggling since the pass protection has been poor and since he no longer has been getting great field position off of turnovers.

The Defense has not had a decent pass rush all season so as much as I want to blame it on that, I can’t. The coaching staff should be able to find ways of manufacturing pressure other ways.

The obvious choice would be lack of depth because injuries are killing us. But again, the coaching staff are well aware of the players they have and it’s their job to optimize what we have and make judicious choices. Not allowing Moats to get better at Pass-rush was an error, not being able to find ways of involving Spiller, not getting Chandler more involved, moving Levitre to center last week, sticking with Smith on Kickoffs and the list goes on… Not the greatest coaching decisions.

To me it’s up to the coaching staff to constantly adjust to the situation, which i find they’ve done a poor job at.

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by keysh67 on Nov 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

I picked coaching also....

and my thinking is the same as yours.

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by blknites on Nov 24, 2011 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

All of the above

Why does it have to be black and white? I think you outlined all of the reasons why this team is falling; meaning if they fixed one of these problems they still wouldnt be a strong team. I think it starts with injuries, and then snowballs from there. But QB play is weak, due to lack of WR play ( how many of those picks he threw were tip balls), due to Injury. CB play is horrible, due to lack of pass rush, due to injury. Playcalling on offense has been bad, they havent given Freddy the ball enough (20 touches only 3 times this year?)he is our first down maker, the guy that moves the chains. Edwards cant call a d game to save his life, because he is trying to make up for the lack of pass rush. I think all these things are problems, it stems from Injuries which can be labeled as depth. However, end of the day I still like Fitzy, we need to get him some weopons and run the ball more. Keep our defense off of the field and the ball in freddies hands. Even CJ is running good, if they dont want to give fred as many touches, feed CJ the ball.

by NHBillzFan on Nov 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Coaching because it kind of reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons where Ned Flanders’ beatnik parents take an unruly little Ned to a psychiatrist in an effort to fix his problems.

 The beatnik parents say something that reminds me of our coaching plan since the struggles began: “You gotta help us, doc. We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas.”

by jj24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

You left off All of the above!

That would be my choice. But, following the rules I say Pass Rush

by Winnie33 on Nov 23, 2011 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

On a “biggest” poll, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to give people an option to make them all the same. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm
The widespread belief is that this issue has led to the team’s massive slip defending the pass, particularly from a group of cornerbacks that was largely good in 2010, and which has largely been terrible in 2011.

This seems like an odd line of thought to me, because it’s not like the pass rush was any worse last year. If the pass rush is roughly the same as last year, why is it NOW that our cornerbacks are getting exposed?

If I had to guess, I’d say that Florence has lost a step, Aaron Williams and T McGee’s injuries are taking away DB talent from us, and that McKelvin has regressed.

That last really galls me to say, because I’ve been rooting for the guy without reservation – until now. He just hasn’t looked good out there.

Also, could it be that our improved run defense is forcing teams to look for options downfield – where they’re finding them, generally wide freaking open?

by lord gloom on Nov 23, 2011 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

that our improved run defense is forcing teams to look for options downfield – where they’re finding them, generally wide freaking open?

I was wondering this exact same thing. Could be the last few years our pass d was largely untested because teams knew they could run. Now that the run D is modestly better they are finding that the secondary can be exposed. The only plus of this is it fits the mold of building from the center out…. Stop the run, then start figuring out where the holes are.

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by greysquirrel on Nov 23, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

that is exactly what they tried to do. The defense needed a total overhaul but there is no point trying to stop the pass if you can’t stop the run. At least this way if their QB has a bad day or isn’t very good you have a fighting chance. Last season the only way the Bills could stay in games was due to arrogance/stupidity by opposing coaches who refused to run the ball all day.

by Billsdownunder on Nov 23, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

pass rush because of all others...

I chose lack of pass rush, but confused as to whether that is because of coaching or injuries or qb play. let me explain.
Why its coaching-No matter who we bring in or what scheme we use, there does not seem to be enough pass rush. There is no way that we cannot generate more pressure from our corners, safeties or lb’s.
Why its injuries-obviously we have no depth left. You can only lose so many people, but somewhere, if you want to be paid like a pro and be a on a pro team, its time to make a name for yourself.
Why its qb play-Maybe Fitz looks great all week long and struggles on gameday because he has the porous the defense to practice against all week. Had he had his first string d in there, like he started, than maybe he’d be more prepared. Once our defense seemed to get weaker, so did the play of Fitz. Just a thought.

by Reedball on Nov 23, 2011 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Kind of expecting content deletion again since it's happened in every thread I post but...

Is it possible to just come out and say “Football” is the problem for this team? The weeks since the bye have really only gone to emphasize this view.Whatever fire and spirit we had in the first half seemed to leave that one week we stopped playing (I hate bye weeks anyhow, teams tend to stumble out of them lethargic).

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by BD34 on Nov 23, 2011 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Technically the pass rush is an issue...

But the abysmal play has got to fall on the shoulders of the coaches, and not just X’s and O’s. Let’s face it, the Bills are being physically overpowered. You can just see the opposing players licking their chops. Mediocre QB’s look like Brady clones, rookies are having career days, skilled veterans are pading their stats. Sure, the the Bills turn in the occasional great play, perhaps a broken tackle or two by Freddie, but they are exceptions. Fitz looks skittish, receivers are frustrated and the defense bewildered. Each injury, like a body blow seems to take more fight out of the team.

This is what separates good coaches from great ones. I like Gailey and the lack of talent and depth certainly make is job difficult; but to lose the way Bills have has these past three weeks falls on his shoulders. These players are professionsals, yet they are performing like a JV team…unquestionably the worst in the league right now. Maybe they believed the early hype making fall more demoralizing. At some point they need to pick themselves off the turf.

You ask what is the biggest on-field problem facing this team right now? Injuries, pass rush and QB play are all huge in their own right and are often the difference between winning and losing. However, It is coaching that can at least ensure the team competes, even when faced with these challenges. And if the Bills fight for it, they may actually win a game or two down the stretch.

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by NJBill on Nov 23, 2011 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

depth

I voted for injuries, but really the more accurate option should have been “lack of depth.” Every team deals with injuries, so you can’t point to that alone as a reason for losing (Green Bay and New Orleans both had close to 20 players on IR the year they won their Super Bowls if I remember correctly. I’d like to say they could simply fix this issue by signing journeymen players to fill in on the o-line and so on, but really is that possible?

by bourgmic on Nov 23, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Eye of the Tiger

I watched 5 games in a row (NYC) and t the most I have seen since the 90’s run. I have to say there is no leadership on the field. There is no one acting like an idiot or hero getting the team riled, the fans riled and the other team intimidated. This is a classy bunch of players.

So classy, that every time they are in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and 1 or goal, they politely give the ball to the other team. Where is the attitude? Is that the coaches? Is that the players they are drafting? Is that the players themselves? The coach making the right decision at the line?

Where is the heart of fire

by proletarian17 on Nov 23, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Injuries. I don’t see how the answer could be anything else. 2 or 3(Hairston,bell,wood) guys get injured on the Oline, a wide reciever or 2(parrish,D.jones,Stevie and Nelson have been hurt off and on), now fred and the offense stops working. The pass rush was never 100% an actual pass rush, but take 2 or 3 guys(Merriman,Meatball,Kelsay) away that get to the QB from time to time and it gets a lot worse and we get no picks.Not to mention Mcgee and now Wilson in the secondary, everythin can be explained by a ton of injuries, can’t coach the same way when loads of players are out, and the team goes from looking deep to playing rookies and signing street free agents.

It’s as plain as day to me, things were going decently well before the injuries started to build.

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by cencalclassics on Nov 23, 2011 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

I never thought I'd say this at the beginning of the year,

but our wide receivers are killing us, I just don’t think there is enough talent there to force a mismatch on defense, allowing defenses to focus on stopping FredEx or pressuring Fitz. Fitz hasn’t been playing well, either (obv.), but its not like we’re all constantly pointing out these open receivers that he’s missing. In short, whatever combination of ineffective receivers, poor play-calling, and not good-enough QB play is really hampering our once high-scoring offense. This all puts our D into bad situations and domino-effects.

So, one ace WR and pass-rushing OLB come April plz.

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by k8 on Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Voted Injuries

yes all teams have injuries, but if we still had at least 4/5th’s of our opening week starting line intact, we are at least competitive week to week and can sustain some drives and take pressure off of our still mostly horrible defense. It also ties into our lack of depth obviously. If we take yet another 20 point plus beating again this week to the Fat Man, our season is completely over.

by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Nov 23, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

many Rumblers said early in the season

this team wasnt deep enough to survive a bad injury toll. Looks like Rumblers were right.

Missed multiple weeks: Best offensive lineman, best defensive lineman, best cornerback, best pass rusher, starting LT, fastest skill player, 2nd round cornerback, #2 receiver, second best pass rusher

Missed games during the slide: best DB, best skill player

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by poz on Nov 23, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Almost went with pass rush..

But the injury list is an even bigger problem IMO. I don’t remember a season where the injury gods have peed on us quite like this.
I would like to see Edwards canned and Wannstedt promoted. That would certainly help.

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by retrobills on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

I would go injuries and coaching.

The injuries hurt, but we were also outscoring opponents in our early wins. The offense can’t score anything now, and I can’t lay all that on injuries either. I tend to lay the offense problems on the coaching staff for not readjusting the offense once opposing defenses adjusted to what we were doing early in the year.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 23, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Pass rush, because I think our poor D is affecting the O also.

I know as a fan I feel like we have to have productive drives on every offensive possesion to stay in the game. I would assume the players on the team feel the same way. It contributes to momentum and the psyche of the team.

Basically, I think our horrendous pass D causes the offense to press. We haven’t been able to run a normal gameplan after the 1st half because be are spotting teams 3 TD’s by then. The pressure to be near perfect on O coaches and players is leading to some of their issues.

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by lonestar_ak on Nov 23, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Pass Rush

Than lack of talent on roster and inability to address need for talent. FO?

by buffalobacker on Nov 23, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Absolutely coaching (players out of position)

How come no one has mentioned the huge Pink Elephant in the corner pooping on all the coats? That Pink Elephant being players out of position. Why is Spencer Johnson playing as OLB? Arthur Moats (who had bouts of exellence at OLB last year) moved to ILB where he doesn’t even sniff the field? Why are we still a 3-4 when we haven’t had the horses to play 3-4 in two years? 4-3 could bring Kelsey back to his normal position with Dareus and Kyle Williams inside.

On the offensive side, our head coach admitted to being out thought by Rex Ryan and had no answer to everything they were doing. It’s pathetic.

by sirgumby1 on Nov 23, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

injuries/depth

Injuries are a part of football, every team has them. I don’t think the Bills are any worse than any other team to be honest. However as Poz and Grey Squirrel have said above, plenty of Rumblers knew once they hit then there would be a massive dropoff with this team. It was great to finally see a Bills team that was competitive, Chix has built that over the last 2 years – they now have really quality 1st options in most areas. However the 2nd or 3rd choices are still the same old guys that went 0-8 at the start of last year and once they started relying on them it was always going to get ugly. So hopefully we can get everyone back healthy next year plus add a decent corner, depth on the Oline and of course the demon pass rusher and maybe, just maybe, they will have a fighting shot at the playoffs.

by Billsdownunder on Nov 23, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve changed my mind…now that Freddie’s done for the year, I vote Injuries.

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by stetzwebs on Nov 23, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

defense defense defense

 depth depth depth…….

nix needs to knock the next two drafts out
of the park and……..

be very active in free agency

no more excuses

by simonpure on Nov 23, 2011 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

Give him time.

It’ll be only year 3 of the rebuild….

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by twoeightnine on Nov 23, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

This rebuild in how many previous with nothing to show but another rebuild? Talk about a vicous circle!

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by buffalobacker on Nov 23, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Im never One to give the coaches a pass when looking for someone to blame....but

To me it has to be talent or depth…its hard to execute any game plan when the players dont peform or arent capable of performing. I learned that lesson a lot this year coaching myself. A Coach can only do so much in terms of preparing the players…once They are on the field its up to the guys wearing the jerseys. There have been times where the coaches looked overwhelmed but talent can mask over certain coaching shortcomings but it doesnt always work vice versa…

I will now go bang my head against the wall to knock some sense back into myself.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 23, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Quarterback Play!

Fitz hasn’t been the difference maker we need him to be. He’s had his moments, but not when the rest of the team is struggleing. If anything he has at times held us back, he hasn’t taken leadership of this team on the field when we’ve been struggleing. I’ve heard him say good things in press coms, but sometimes a QB has to will his team to victory or at least better play during the game, or the next. You don’t allow your team slide into a slump like this when the playoffs are with in your grasp. Other QBs have gotten it done with less. This team has many deficientcies but QB play is the most detramental of all in my oppinion. Look at NE their defense is terrible, but Brady and the offense with out a real deep threat are carrying the team to victory after victory, so we know it can be done. It’s just that our ( Fitz ) guy can’t do it.

by atsnigduh2u on Nov 23, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Fitz vs Brady?

It has come to my attention that I’ve made a comparision to us ( the BILLS vs the PATS ) & them a few times before, it’s because I wish we were more like them, because I don’t, it’s because they are in our division and are leading it, and if we are to mark our progress or lack of it, I say go after the top dog, which happens to be them. Can we catch them I don’t know, but then again I don’t know hard we are really trying.

by atsnigduh2u on Nov 23, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

I'm glad to see the results...

I picked ‘injuries’ with a strong mental second ‘pass rush’, and it seems to me everyone else is with that.

You could say, of course, that what we really mean is that we lack depth, especially in OLB, but that’s splitting hairs.

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by Orlando John on Nov 23, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Blessing or Bad thing.....

The injuries to the Buffalo Bills are both a blessing and a bad thing. Let’s start with the bad first off, this situation allows inexperienced or certain draft pick to receive playing time with experience to allow the coaching staff to critique players and adjustments whether coverage was blown or more reps in practice. The good or blessing about this situation is this adds depth to the position, whether or not, there is a need to fill on draft day, it will take a lot of younger players to build for a playoff run who a healthy. Like Chan Gailey would say, this is a tough game for tough people. And if the Bills do not have tough qualified people to endure the rain, sleet, and cold at Orchard Park, then that athlete can not go the distance, more replacements are need to fulfil the require playoff run. Nothing against that athlete, but that individual can not hack the element or endurance the team requires. For example John McCargo, Trent Edwards or OT Mike Williams. When pressure comes around, mentally and physically they break.

by Anthony7 on Nov 25, 2011 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

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