Jets 28, Bills 24: Three Good And Three Bad
The Buffalo Bills team that started the season 5-2 showed up on Sunday - or, at least the healthy portion of it showed up. For the first time since playing in Toronto, Buffalo moved the ball on offense, played well enough to win on defense, and showed up with a physical, tough mindset. The results weren't optimal, but it was nearly enough to win.
The Bad
The Butterfly Effect. I don't know if I've witnessed a stranger series of events in 24 years of watching Bills football. By the time Stevie Johnson scored Buffalo's second touchdown (against Darrelle Revis, no less), the Bills had established a few things. Foremost, Buffalo wasn't going to sit back and let the Jets punish them again. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Johnson were going after Revis successfully. C.J. Spiller had been part of the offense, and Mark Sanchez looked bad. Then the butterfly effect kicked in.
Johnson did his dance, and Buffalo kicked off from the 20 after the penalty. The coaches called a squib kick that Dave Rayner hit poorly, giving the New York Jets the ball at Buffalo's 36-yard line. Marcell Dareus was called for roughing Sanchez. Three plays later, with the Jets facing 3rd-and-10, Drayton Florence and Da'Norris Searcy communicate the coverage to each other, which they still mix up, allowing Plaxico Burress - the subject of Johnson's touchdown dance - to score easily. Just like that, Buffalo's 14-7 lead is a 14-14 tie going into halftime
The Bad Stevie Johnson. I'll keep this short and sweet to avoid beating a dead horse. Johnson has to grow up fast, or risk turning into another prima donna distraction at receiver. Teams usually get rid of those types of receivers. Ask Randy Moss. Or Chad Ochocinco. Or Terrell Owens.
Errors. Buffalo committed nine penalties for 85 yards, many of which placed Fitzpatrick and the offense in long distance situations. With the type of defense that Buffalo currently fields, the team cannot afford mistakes. The offense must sustain drives, and the defense must get off the field. In both cases, the penalties are having an effect. Buffalo also went 6-for-15 on third down. Along the same line of reasoning as the penalties, Buffalo has got to sustain drives, but this type of performance on third down would have John Elway proclaiming that he wasn't sold on Fitzpatrick as the team's future at quarterback. Buffalo must do better.
The Good
Play Calling. Somewhere along the way to getting dominated by the Jets again, Chan Gailey decided to do something different. Just as my faith in his offensive ability was beginning to waiver, Gailey put in the right offensive game plan. Buffalo decided to diversify the offense in ways that the Jets struggled to counter. A double-tight end, one-back set gives 3-4 defenses problems, especially a 3-4 built the way the Jets' defense is constructed. The Jets don't have a force off the edge to apply pressure, and need exotic blitz packages to get the the quarterback. This often leaves the linebackers in coverage with tight ends. Two tight ends in the game doubles the problem. Gailey called upon Lee Smith to join Scott Chandler, and the results were good. The move helped Chandler break free, partly, to a six-catch afternoon.
While the running game wasn't dominant, it had its moments. Most importantly, the Jets had to start backing away from their blitz packages into a more conventional defense to avoid these problems. Brad Smith replaced Donald Jones and gave Buffalo a deep threat. Buffalo held the ball for over 36 minutes, mostly by having Fitzpatrick regularly run the play clock down, which protected the defense and helped prevent the Jets from playing ball-control. If not for some butterflies, this approach would have worked.
The Good Stevie Johnson. The impact of Johnson's performance shouldn't get lost in his antics. When was the last time a receiver matched up against Revis and caught eight balls for 75 yards and a touchdown? Add in the drop during the last drive, and it's pretty clear that Johnson, and the coaching staff, have something about Revis figured out. As Buffalo played mostly a horizontal timing offense on Sunday, Johnson got open using double and sometime triple moves that seemed to put Revis' feet into cement. While the moves only opened up a small space for Johnson, that's more than anyone else has gotten on Revis. At some point, all great players get figured out. This statement may be bold, but I think Johnson figured out Revis on Sunday.
The Kids Are Alright. When a team relies on the draft to re-build, they take the good with the bad, with more bad initially. Eventually, the bad decreases and the good increases. Sunday wasn't the type of game that marked a turning point, but Buffalo's young players performed well against a team that absolutely destroyed the Bills over the past three meetings. Aaron Williams showed real signs of becoming a starting boundary corner. Justin Rogers played with athleticism, particularly when diving to stop a second quarter touchdown pass to Patrick Turner. Searcy played well against the run. Kelvin Sheppard and Arthur Moats got beat at times, but they also made some good plays. David Nelson, Chandler and Smith are a good trio of interior pass catchers. Chris Hairston held up well. Even Spiller showed signs of bigger things. This group of youngsters may be worth waiting around for.
Outlook
Buffalo's playoff chances are on life support, and while moral victories don't count in the standings, Buffalo has a lot to hold their heads up about. Gailey's offense has had the life sucked out of it in previous meetings; they scored 24 on Sunday. The Jets pounded the Bills into submission in the past; Buffalo hung in the fight and took it to the Jets at times. Johnson beat Revis on a regular basis. Fitzpatrick played his first good game against the Jets. It's probably about the right time to think about these games in terms of next year. Buffalo shouldn't even watch the tape of the first Jets game. If they watch this game, they'll see that the boogeyman isn't real, and the Jets are beatable by this franchise.
Back to 2011: Buffalo plays its first game in Ralph Wilson Stadium since October 9 on Sunday versus the Tennessee Titans. If Buffalo's slim playoffs chances are to be realized, the need to run the table and win their last five games, starting on Sunday at 1 PM.
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2 Tight end set
First the spread, now 2 tight end sets. Does anyone else think Gaily might be mimicing a certain other afc east coach?
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
by fansince83 on Nov 29, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Lol! Rec'd!
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 29, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
But we need an upgrade at TE
There is a lot to be said for two TE sets as an option, especially against the Jets and Pats, but to be effective at it we need a really first-rate TE who can block and catch passes, turning Scott Chandler into our #2 TE (and still using him a lot). I’m with DJ in hoping that Nix will go after John Carlson of Seattle if he comes onto the market; if not, TE needs to be a high priority in the draft.
If you’re going to mimic a coach, he’s the one to mimic.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Minus, of course, the whole “being a jackass” thing.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
ha ha
agreed
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
by fansince83 on Nov 29, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nothing wrong
with finding what works. Never gonna complain about that. Pretty sure Belichick didn’t invent all this stuff either.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 29, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
What's wrong with mimicking?
That’s what you do in the NFL. If it works, it gets implemented. (If it fits, it ships)
Gailey’s not afraid to try anything and everything when what he’s originally been doing hasn’t been working. That’s something I want in a coach.
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never said
there was a problem with it. I’m glad we have a coach smart enough to go ‘hey, that looks like it’s working, maybe we should try it’
Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!
by fansince83 on Nov 29, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL..
hey, that looks like it’s working, maybe we should try it’
TWSS :-)
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Red Zone Passing Defense and Outside Contain
Three of the four Jet TDs had a WR wide open, not even a Bills DB within five feet. Blown coverages at the most critical times in the game, defending the red zone.
The Jets continually ran outside when Spencer was outside, this has been mentioned before but he can not play OLB and this game showed that agian. Teams will contiually rush the edges when you have a lineman playing OLB.
Three plays later, with the Jets facing 3rd-and-10, Drayton Florence and Da’Norris Searcy communicate the coverage to each other, which they still mix up
I don’t see it as miscommunication. What I’ve noticed is that Florence is getting beat and then complains that he didn’t get safety help.
Florence has regressed substantially this season. I really hope that A. Williams can be one of the starters next season, with McGee & a rookie understudy at the other CB slot.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Nov 29, 2011 9:45 AM EST reply actions
Does anyone
really think that McGee will be back in a Bills uni next year? Or LEO for that matter?
Hopefully the young’ns continue to step it up w/ more playing time during the last 1/4 of this 2011 season. The experience and a FULL off-season of work could do wonders for the likes of Williams & even Rogers.
I will say, Sunday was the 1st time I had pretty much anything to say positive about Leo though, albeit on ST’s . . . . opposed to CB where he continually gets burned! He was a force on ST’s v the JETS.
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by Pocono Bob on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Leo is bought an paid for
Can’t see why we cut him with one year left on his contract, he can still contribute.
McGee on the other hand… tough to keep using roster spots for the season on a guy who pitches in for 4-6 games. We could really use him, but we may need to think a bit more about the future.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 29, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why can't Chan find a way to get Scotty the ball?
6 targets = 6 catches
In fact I don’t think Scott Chandler has dropped anything remotely catchable all season. He is by far the surest hands we have in the short to intermediate routes. He’s by far the biggest target. At 6’7" there is a mismatch every time he runs a route. Why aren’t we using him more?
Why don’t we use him until the defense actually adjusts to it, which means we can use him to our advantage and get other guys open? Scott Chandler has done nothing but make plays every time his number is called, we need to get him the ball way more than we have.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
by keysh67 on Nov 29, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Why don’t we use him until the defense actually adjusts to it, which means we can use him to our advantage and get other guys open? Scott Chandler has done nothing but make plays every time his number is called, we need to get him the ball way more than we have.
rec’d – i’ve been beating that drum for weeks!
by J2 on Nov 29, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
10,000 weeks?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 29, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I just looked to find I have over 15,000. Whoa.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 29, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
This^^^
I actually think they have started to do this bc they are so short at WR, and Fitz needs another target. They should keep throwing it to him until it stops working bc the defense has changed.
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Rec’d, too. And I don’t understand calling for drafting a TE this year. We don’t even know what we have with Smith and Caussin (which sounds like a gun!) so spending a draft pick on this position makes NO sense to me at all.
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Caussin made a fantastic tackle on ST on Sunday.
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by thefourwinds on Nov 29, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
has he had a challenging ball to catch, though?
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Why would that be a factor? He’s caught every single pass intended for him ? We complete passes when we throw to him, period.
Maybe the fact that at 6’7" he’s such a mismatch and tall target that Fitz always makes great throws, frankly I don’t really care who gets the credit for it, I just want to see more of it.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
I misunderstood your point. But while I think he’s an important part of the offense, I am not impressed with his catching ability yet. He has not been challenged…everything hits him in the hands pretty securely. It helps that he runs shorter routes generally, but I haven’t seen anything yet to get excited about.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
How about the fact that he gets open and catches the balls thrown to him?
BTW, me asking for Chan to get Chandler more involved does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that I think Chandler is a Stud TE like Witten or Davis, only that he is painfully obvious that Chandler is getting open and doing a fine job when given the chance. He looks pretty slow out there when you compare him to a guy like Graham so I doubt we could get similar production out of Chandler. But at least increasing his workload until it starts to bend a littlle should put additional pressure on opposing defenses and more importantly open up other guys for big plays. I think that better using Chandler in short areas could alleviate some of the pressure on Spiller and help keep the sticks moving.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
My original post was referring to “I don’t think Chandler has dropped anything remotely catchable all season”…to which I replied, has he really been tested, though? I don’t think this is an accomplishment.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Given how many easy drops other receivers on the Bills have had (and I don’t just mean Johnson), I would say, yes, this is an accomplishment.
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by thefourwinds on Nov 29, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Again
I really don’t care if he’s been tested or not, the fact remains that for what ever reason the passes are perfect and he makes the catches – so all I’m asking for is to throw to him more until we get to a point where he starts dropping, how’s that for a start? Take what the defense gives you until they take it away, so give him more targets until it ain’t working no more.
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
Chandler's "talk" w/ Fitz
on the last drive I found curious. It appeared to me that he was trying to tell Fitz “something” and it appeared that Fitz was simply saying “NO”!!!!
A said above; he needs to be more involved for sure. He can take the pressure off of the other receivers once he has a few catches and the D HAS to adjust.
USE the TE’s!!!!!
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I would also add
Guys played sharper. I know scheme helped, but the last few games Fitz has been sailing and receivers have dropped many catchable balls. Not withstanding a Nelson drop on a reasonably thrown pass and a hign Fitz throw that Stevie actually reeled in, I have many fewer `mistakes’ drilled into my head and those that did happen someone would figure out how to make a play. The three weeks prior guys even if they were open, would find a way to blow it. There seemed to be more mental sharpness.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
CB may be in better shape than many think
As DJ says, Aaron Williams and Justin Rogers both looked good last Sunday. It is still way too early to tell for sure, especially in regard to Rogers, but it’s possible that the Bills may have picked up two impressive starting CB’s in the 2011 draft. We will still need to add at least one more CB this coming year, but if Williams and Rogers continue to play well we may not need potential starters so that CB could be relegated to a lower pick in 2012. Given all the other major needs — two pass-rushing OLB’s, deep-threat WR, TE, possibly a NT to replace Troup, another DE to upgrade Dwan Edwards — that could be very good news.
REPLACE TROUP?
Troup is fine Nose Tackle he occupies blockers and does as hes supposed too. I cant stand people who are complaining about him and especially Carrington, Carrington is a freak who is dominating opposing tackles at times. Just because they dont see sacks and tackles for losses all the time from him they think he is not doing his job. I would say that with a healthy Kyle Williams we will field an elite DL next year. I would agree with the bigger issue lying in the CB/LB situation. The bills need to get the best pass rusher in the draft regardless of position preferrably a OLB. As for corners last week was marked improvement, McGee is stil the best corner unfortunately he cant maintain health. It has been far and a way the weakest part of the Defense especially during the Losing streak.
by SPCtacular1 on Nov 29, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Troup is oft-injured, and barely noticeable.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think a good traditional nose tackle isn’t supposed to be noticeable.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
And Gailey has continued to talk him up after the pre-season and training camp.
Gailey is usually quite frank about the performance of players so this gives me hope that next year he will help be part of a healthy 4 man rotation at DT.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
Troup may no longer be able to play football
Troup could very well develop into a fine NT if his body gives him a chance, but if you have been listening to Gailey’s last two press conferences it is looking as if Troup is about to go on IR and there are big questions about whether he will ever be able to overcome his back troubles that have just about totally prevented him from playing this year. I would love to see him back 100% next season, but for the moment Troup is in the same category as Easley in that both of them may never have NFL careers because of serious chronic medical disabilities. If that turns out to be the case, NT may be added to the list of the positions the Bills need next April, alas. That’s what I was referring to.
Good defensive game plan, bad defensive play calling
Bills rushed four and dropped seven all afternoon and were successful in confusing Sanchez with over/under coverages on middle routes all afternoon.
Then with the game on the line, Edwards calls for two consecutive blitzes, and the Jets strike for the winning touchdown. What’s up with that?
Saw the same thing
Not only that, we STINK AT BLITZING. On the TD pass I saw at least two Bills players knock each other to the ground guaranteeing there would be no backside pursuit of Sanchez.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 29, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
First blitz, a beautiful catch by Plax. Second blitz, Bills lose contain and Sanchez scrambles and finds Holmes. I don’t know why they saw fit to blitz either….
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by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I saw more than a handful of blitzes.
I personally find it kind of comical how people beat up on Edwards for not being creative in his blitz packages, but when he does blitz and they get burned then he is criticized still.
I would never desire to be a coordinator in the NFL.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
Chandler's weakness
… is blocking. If he could either run or pass block, he’d be a lot more valuable. Help get Spiller to the outside more + not allow skinny people like Maybin to run amok.
In the instances that I've seen
he’s been fine blocking. He doesn’t pancake his man, but he holds up at the point of attack with some consistency.
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by NolaBillsFan on Nov 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
He shouldn't have been asked to block a speed rusher by himself.
Fitz prob should have slid protection away from his side and let a back take care of him.
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I hate the NFL for setting up Buffalo’s schedule as they did this year. However it happened, it stinks.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions
Next year should be better.
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by RedStickBillsFan on Nov 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Good read, good game, rec'd
Must, must start hitting the QB!! 2 or 3 solid shots to Sanchez would have been enough to tip the scales. He looks soft, send him to the sidelines.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 29, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions
I want to enjoy a moral victory, but..
Sanchez was awful despite 4 TDs, and the play calling was very suspect (they kept throwing when they were having success with the run). If the Jets played smarter and Sanchez was much better we might have gotten smoked again. Just sayin’.. but I agree the younger players have talent and I would like to see them get more experience as the season wears on.
retro
The improved play of the offense is enough for a moral victory
even if the d was the same old d.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 29, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
The rest of the season should be used to test what we have here.This is not a playoff caliber team without players like Williams, Jackson and Woods. On the latter we need to grow OL depth as we may be getting an injury prone career out of Woods. This is too bad as he seems to have the right football attitude and is a pretty decent player the 7-8 games a year you get from him.
I might say Hairston might be the single biggest pleasant surprise player for me, followed by Rogers and Chandler
Hairston if he keeps getting better week to week will soon have the LT spot locked down, and if he has a kick butt offseason might be our LT solution for a couple of seasons until someone much better shows up.
Chandler is going to be only a good journeyman TE, but dang, we have needed SOMEONE of some talent to be in our offense, and he is it for now. He will not wow you, but he gets the job done, and that is better than anything we have had since Riermesa was here.
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