Bills vs. Jets: The Return Of Aaron Maybin
by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2011 11:30 AM EDT
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It's tough to remember a player more universally despised by the Buffalo Bills' fan base than 2009 first-round pick Aaron Maybin. Released after just over two years on the roster, Maybin never recorded a sack with Buffalo and, fair or not, became the symbol of the team's recent drafting failures - particularly those of Dick Jauron and Tom Modrak.
As most of you know, however, Maybin latched on with this week's opponent, the New York Jets. I have not been overly surprised by his renaissance, but most Bills fans are; in four games working for Rex Ryan, Maybin has recorded three sacks and three forced fumbles in limited playing time.
Eric Wood - drafted in the first round with Maybin, and who famously got into a fight with his draft classmate at a training camp practice last summer - is already telling reporters he'd be irritated if Maybin recorded a sack on Sunday. Guess it's not just fans that get heated when recalling the Maybin era.
John Butchko of GangGreenNation.com has watched Maybin carefully over the past month, and has come to a few conclusions about the Jets' go-to pass rusher. First, he believes that Maybin was simply a case of a player being over-drafted:
I think he is the kind of guy who is terrible value if you invest a high draft pick in him and expect him to be an elite player. He is pretty good value if you can get him for cheap and use him situationally.
He also points out that Maybin's three sacks have not all been of a dominant quality, but points out that his good qualities shone through on each play.
Now of the three sacks, two were coverage sacks and the other only required him to get off a cut block thrown by a running back. The thing is, New York's other pass rushers are so ineffective, this adds a different dimension. I cannot count the number of times in the past two years before Maybin arrived a quarterback sat back all day while the Jets never got pressure - even after initial coverage held. His closing speed makes a difference. He also has been good swatting the ball out when it has been exposed.
Finally, I asked Butchko if we could expect to see Maybin on the field for more than just passing situations on Sunday.
He has not played much against the run. He has mainly come in on obvious passing downs. Jamaal Westerman and Josh Mauga have played in place of Bryan Thomas on first and second down. Neither guy has impressed much. Maybin could see some more time if this continues, but I am not sure how long of a look he will get. He is a guy who struggles to get off blocks. Where he has made a difference has been as a pass rusher.
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please, please give him snap after snap on sunday.
dial up a running play on like 3rd and 12 so wood can pull to maybins side and bury him into that shiny new turf he never got to play on
by boomsauce on Nov 3, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
please, please give him snap after snap on sunday.
That’s exactly what I say to my buddy who is a Jests fan and likes to forward me articles about how great Maybin is.
I had a drink the other day
Opinions were like kittens
I was giving them away
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I’m confused, you have a buddy who is a jets fan? ;-)
by garcia76 on Nov 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Friends don't let friends be Jests fans
I’ve staged many Sunday afternoon interventions at our usual dive, but he still hasn’t seen the error of his ways.
I had a drink the other day
Opinions were like kittens
I was giving them away
-Modest Mouse
That made me laugh out loud!
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 3, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
The Bills OL used to light Maybin up in practice; it would be so great if the Jets would let the Bills OL light him up in a game!! Snap after snap after snap….
Yup
No hate from me
The guy never got a real shot here to proove himself…The coaching staff never commited to him. Whether there was good reason or not, thats a matter of opinion..I wish him the best of luck in his career…
by doctork44 on Nov 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He wasn’t locked in the equipment closet. They watched him play a lot in preseason and every week in practice.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not enough for me
When you invest in a guy that high, for that much money. At least give him an opportunity where he can go out there in perform or put him situations to be successful…A few preseason games and practice isn’t enough for me…I hate to say it, but kudos to Rex for letting a guy do what he does best…
Buffalo had no space on the roster for him. He is an undersized olb that can not shed blocks or play against the run. He would not have the plays here. The plays he made have more to do with the jets defense as a whole than maybin’s play.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Let me add he was not drafted by the current regime. They did not invest a high draft pick in him. They have no carear tied to him. They have no reason to keep him.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I mean this to me is actually a concern. I don’t want the new guy to throw out old guys just because they were from the prior regime.
Though this coaching staff and Buddy actually seem to have done a nice job sorting through the old players, keeping them, and improving them (tons of examples, Spencer Johnson, Kelsay, Fred, Fitz, Stevie, Bell, Wilson, Scott etc.). Maybin may be an exception hough — TBD. But you can’t say he didnt get time….
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he got time and also by no reason to keep him he just did not fit the roster imo.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Not to mention....
He didn’t do a single thing to distinguish himself in practice or on the field other than embarrass himself. He got beat out by low round and undrafted rookies last year because he stunk. He was awful this summer. He earned his release and there was no reason to continue hoping this guy could contribute anything in Buffalo.
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by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
This Sunday he can contribute in Buffalo by giving the Bills a first down by missed tackle or personal foul.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he wasn't drafted by this regime
but this organization did. He got paid…and atleast let the guy play for 30-40 snaps for at least a few games…geez…At a point last year, what did we have to lose?
by doctork44 on Nov 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The jets cut him also he is only playing football because a jet got hurt. The fan base respect the lockerroom the players the team. Even though we had nothing to play for the team played hard and wanted to win. Playing maybin because you had nothing to lose sends a really bad message to the team.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what do we have to lose?
organizational culture.
the best players play. the guys who prepare themselves and show up every day in practice. the guys who earn it.
Maybin simply didn’t outplay anyone on our roster.
by dav630 on Nov 3, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No reason to keep him?
He is one of the inherited players who the new regime was tasked with evaluating. They had to decide whether or not to use a roster spot on him, based on some combination of current value and future production. They made a decision that not many of us disagreed with. That decision may end up having been incorrect if Maybin pans out. That would mean that they did not properly evaluate the “future production” part, and possibly even his “current value” if you look at what he has done already.
He was getting embarrassed on the field. They gave him a shot and no player is simply going to be put out there because they were drafted here or there. At least no player should be.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin = Bum
Maybin was so bad that he couldnt even get onto the field as a part of one of the worst defenses in the nfl when he was here in buffalo. Comon Man.
I think they did cut him and then resigned him when an injury occurred.
by buffalo_bills on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cause its not like they saw him for a few weeks and were so impressed…. It was more like, crap we need someone, Maybin was in camp…. No one says the Jets cut him…
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
by greysquirrel on Nov 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup not mentioned very often bring that up with a jet you will get a list of players who where cut multiple lines. I have read a few gang green maybin convos.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rumor has it...
Rex is naming Maybin a Captain this weekend.
Not sure if its been confirmed or not.
Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"
Rex always names local players or players who used to play for a given team as honorary captain that week. So I’d be shocked if it isn’t Maybin, and only Maybin, out there.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric wood tears his head off at the coin exchange and the ralph goes wild. Eric then throws the head at rex and shouts this is buffalo. I in no way wish harm maybin.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah I’m not sure why there’s so much hatred to Maybin as a player. I totally understand not wanting him to do well, but there seems to be a lot of people here who HATE him as a person. What’s interesting is that he’s always said the right things, and always worked his tail off. Vernon Gholston, on the other hand, always blamed others for his failures, never took responsibility, and was a lazy jerk.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 3, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
When they drafted him, he spent the first several weeks holding out for more money, then made an awful, awful rap video…then sucked. Some of us take it too personally, I agree, but yeah, we don’t like him.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I thought the image was funny no hate towards him here. I wish him the best and hopes he succeeds on sunday except against the bills. I am originally from buffalo but have lived in baltimore longer. I like to see home grown talent succeed. he does charity work here.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He never seemed all in with Buffalo. Something about him. Nice enough in conversation but invisible enough when it mattered most.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I just didn’t like the fact that he held out for more money,… then cut his hair as to say, watch out here I come,… then,… did nothing.
I mean, a ton of players do that. Most of these guys had nothing when they were growing up, and they have an agent whispering in their ear that they can make even more. It’s not surprising.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 3, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget the dancing after other peoples sacks. And the off season training to LOSE (?) weight.
Plus if he makes a difference to the LB core, then that’s not a position that instills any fear in me on Sunday.
No personal grudge just a wasted pick. Alas with all things football, too much hope, not enough perspective.
Why I'm a optimistic Bills fan:
The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination.
- Marion Zimmer Bradley
Fair enough. I actually read something that he has an insane metabolism and can lose up to 10 pounds in a single workout. It sounds like it’s even crazier than Phelps’, who eats like 3,000 calories per day no problem.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 3, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't 3000 per day close to what the normal man should eat?
Anyways, I thought I heard somewhere that when he trains for the Olympics Phelps eats around 10,000 calories a day.
Also I’ve heard of the Maybin/metabolism thing when he was a Bill so there might be some truth to that.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 4, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Overall I'd agree with you that he's said the right things, and that the hatred he receives from most fans is uncalled for.
He did make a statement in the call this week that raised my eyebrow though.
A reporter asked him if he felt he had a fair opportunity here. Maybin started with the correct response, then stopped and said you can’t feel that averaging 5 snaps a game in 2010 is really a fair shake. If he was honestly thinking and saying these things while he was here, then I could understand why the coaches and players were so exasperated with him.
I wish him success, not this Sunday of course, since he’s been through a lot in his personal life.
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Bob you also forgot the TE we hired to the squad from the Bills.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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Show jets fans what a quick release and spiller will do blocking to maybin. Pancakes for breakfast.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What you call a quick release I call a journeyman QB that throws for 4-5 yards a play on check downs.
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You should watch some film. Its usually something like 7-8 yards. The only time he checks down its usuallly to freddy. He has a habit of taking those 25 yards.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
@bro....
Then what do you call a mediocre QB who only has a lot of wins because of a great defense?
Trent Dilfer = Sanchez.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 3, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He's absolutely outperformed Sanchez every way so far this year
I can see why you locked him up. Proof you don’t have to draft high to get a franchise QB.
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What you call a quick release I call a journeyman QB that throws for 4-5 yards a play on check downs.
He’s still sporting a 7.6 yards per pass attempt average according to NFL.com
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent Edwards but what dies that have to do with Fitz?
by FLBill on Nov 3, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybin vs Levitre?
I’m actually a little concerned about Levitre against Maybin. Maybin has great speed. It’s about all he has, but he has a lot of it. Wasn’t Levitre was moved to guard because of concerns about handling speed rushers? I’m not so much worried about Maybin significantly impacting the game as much as I just don’t want to him to succeed.
Levitre has done fine against much better players
Osi, JPP, Kiwanuka, Orakpo, Kerrigan are all a million times better than Maybin. He’s done a solid, if not great, job against them. Maybin is a cupcake while those guys are thousand dollar wedding cakes. There should be no worry, Levitre just needs to let Maybin run himself out of plays like he always does.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2011 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, if I’m the Bills, I throw a ton of slants behind Maybin and the massive throwing lane he has left behind.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 3, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
K nailed it. If Levitre could handle Orakpo, who nearly everyone here wanted more than Maybin, and who has proven himself an NFL starter, Levitre (and Hairston) should be fine with Maybin. More than fine.
I would love to see Eric Wood pull on a play and flatten Maybin.
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I would love to see Eric Wood pull on a play and flatten Maybin
I tweeted this very thing to eric wood and so did a couple of other bills mafia members. Hope he gets the chance to!
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 4, 2011 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Wish him the worst
I wish Maybin nothing but the worst on Sunday and throughout his professional career (obviously not off the field). Despite his positive first impression with New Jersey, I am confident that he’ll be applying for positions at Blinds-To-Go or Enterprise Rent-A-Car with Trent Edwards and James Hardy as soon in the very near future.
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by Port Royal on Nov 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Trent did one thing right. Miami called him and he said no thank you. Not because he did not want to play football but because he did not want to play for miami.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he said no because Enterprise has an excellent corporate structure and they… they give you the tools to be your own boss.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 3, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Why are you wishing him the worst?
He wasn’t a bad guy while he was here and always said the right things…Never bashed the city or the coaches…Where is this hate coming from?
To me, the Maybin situation is like a bad marriage..It just didn’t work out..
Don’t people usually hate their ex’s after a divorce?
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not necessarily
Some people take the mature route, and say hey “she/he was a great person, a great mom/dad, got beautiful kids”, but she/he wasn’t right for me".
You move on, and wish her/him the best…You’re only bitter after a breakup if you haven’t move on.
I feel the Bills has moved on from Maybin and found a replacement. Why can’t we just wish the man the best of luck??
He said the right things I agree. But how can he have been so special teams incapable? Special teams is just hustle and willingness to do it. If he has got hustle I think the latter ended up mattering. For a guy who is s situational pass rusher (5-10 snaps a game) special teams has tobe a big aprt of what he does. I know at least once Chan basically said that. So I don’t know if he enbraced what the coaches wanted from him here – my sense is he didnt.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
I’d argue they’ve found a replacement. One game doesn’t not a replacement make. But it’s not like they needed to replace Maybin. He wasn’t giving anything to them in the first place. They need to address the edge rush issue soon, though.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
*haven’t found a replacement.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Why?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it would annoy me for him to work out somewhere else
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 3, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Because I don’t like the guy and it’s nothing but a trite sport in the grand scheme of things, so continued interest lies in taking a side.
When Maybin arrived in Buffalo, he almost immediately had goofy haircuts, rap songs, nicknames, a holdout, annoying outside mentors/ promoters, etc. None of these things matter and if he would have produced here, I wouldn’t give two cents, but given the unbelievably inept production, Maybin’s name is Mudd in my book. Signing with the hated Jersey Jets pretty much makes him a wrestling villain cliche.
Again, I hope he lives a peaceful, productive, healthy life into very old age, but I hope it’s spent working a 9-5 for the next 50 years. There are only so many spots in the NFL; I’m rooting for somebody else to have one.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Nov 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
That sums it up really well, PR! Rec’d.
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 3, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
As a fan of a sport that really doesn’t mean a thing to what’s truly important in this short life, it’s easy and welcomed to take a side and bash a guy who gave the team you support nothing, while turning it on for another. I believe it’s magnified when said player goes to a team in the spotlight where they generally take stout defenders and when that team is put on a pedestal so often after leaving the league’s “farm team.”
i’m with you. I don’t hate him aside from my allegiance to the Bills.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We just have to muscle him
Place Chandler or McIntyre on in his side to chip and bang him up as they release for a short pass. It will slow him down and wear him down also. He’s a small guy muscle-wise
McIntyre...
Would absolutely destroy him one on one, I think hes got like 20 lbs on him, not to mention he just plays big.
I never despised him
More dissappointed in the pick, not his fault. More dissappointed that the Jets are getting production as a situational pass rusher, when our FO didn’t really give him much of a chance there, much less be creative to utilize his only attribute, his speed.
He had two coverage sacks. One was flacco holding the ball for 15 seconds. He was blocked out of the play and came back from behind to make the play. His second sack was a play that did not matter they had won was last play of the game. The qb was running around and should of thrown it away. His third sack he just had to beat ryan matthews. He would not have those sacks if he was here. The jets have a secondary that can take use of a track athlete.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would love to see Eric Wood body slam him on Sunday
by billsnterps on Nov 3, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm confident you'll get that wish.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So want to see Maybin get sent on a blitz up the gut on Sunday
Harooo
by Robot Nixon on Nov 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can the PA guy blast Maybin’s lame rap song after each time he gets pancaked on Sunday?
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by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Orakpo vs Maybin
If Levitre can handle Orakpo with his speed and strength, Maybin should be like playing vs a college end.
Wood
was stonewalling him in preseason, I dont see any reason why Levitre couldnt do it.
Wang
was stonewalling him in preseason, I don’t see any reason anybody on the team couldn’t do it.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally would like to see FredEx pancake Maybin, just adding to the FredEx versatility legend.
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Nov 3, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin blitzing
I want Ryan to send Maybin on a blitz on every single 3rd down we have. It’ll take one defender out of coverage, and I have complete faith that Fitz will be able to get rid of the ball before Motor Maybin is able to get to him.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I’m starting to wonder if Maybin will get many snaps against us, for this reason: Maybin was cut because he simply couldn’t produce both in practice and in games. He would have had to produce in practice first, in order to get PT, and obviously didn’t. If Maybin couldn’t produce against this offense in training camp, is fat Rex really gonna trust him to produce in a game against that same offense?
But what about the playbook?
Yea I get it we don’t want Maybin to do well. That’s a given. But how much thought has been given that this is a guy that has been with the Bills and knows the playbook. We know for a fact that Rex has picked his brain so how do you think this changes how we go about playing the game and how much the Jets key into what we’re doing on defense? How much, if any, do you think Chan has changed things up to throw a wrench into the Jets plans of figuring out our plays?
And yes we have Brad so we may have some insight on their offense.
I highly doubt that it matters that much. There is enough game tape this year for the film guys to pick up on our tendencies half way through the season. On top of that i will take Chan “Megamind” Gailey to out smart any insight that Maybin can give to Rex. Rex is a great defensive coach, but have a feeling that gailey is a bit smarter than Maybin, especially since maybin was on D, and not O, where Gailey has had the much greater impact.
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Yesterday Maybin said something to the effect of “I have a rare opportunity this week”.
Then Mike Schopp said something to the effect of. “A rare opportunity for Aaron Maybin on Sunday. A chance to play in a regular season football game at Ralph Wilson stadium”. Sometimes Schopp annoys me, but I lost it laughing.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
That is funny.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Time to get the pass rush fired up again Sunday
Chan Gailey really got them ready for the Redskins with his pre-game speech to the pass rushers:
“Bruce Smith is not walking through that door, fans. Bryce Paup is not walking through that door, and Aaron Maybin is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they’re going to be gray and old. … And as soon as they realize that those three guys are not coming through the door, the better this town will be for all of us. … All this negativity that’s in this town sucks.”
I think Chan is really looking forward to seeing Maybin on the field. Those plays will be prime oportunities to run draws right through his vacated area. Screens or swings to that open space could be aplenty too.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rick Pitino
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I agree.
Besides, In Megamind we trust! I definitely trust that Gailey will come-up with an appropriate game plan against good old Rex.
Stevie will earn his pay as a decoy
Chandler/Spiller will have big games (I think this could be Spiller’s coming out game, lots of screens)
I hope that Chan realizes how good these guys are on ST, we need to remove that part of their game (McNight is averaging 35y/return). If we can back them up, take the run away and unleash our front 7 – Our Defense can win this one for us!
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
I don’t think Stevie will be a decoy. They will throw at Revis if he’s one on one b/c that’s what the offense is designed to do. Find the guy in single coverage and throw it to him. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think that either Revis has a big day or Stevie Johnson has a big day b/c Fitzy will throw at him.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 4, 2011 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
WHiTE OUT !
Do it fans ! I think only the Texans fans wear all red on occasion. It would be nice to start a cool once a yeaar trend to wear all white.
by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Nov 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The bills are giving out 50k white pom poms on sunday.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I propose we wear all nothing.
Opposing kickers will have difficulty concentrating with 50,000 people showing off their birthday suits.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Start with the Cheerleaders on the field you can reenact the scenes from The Replacements.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
The first time I watched that movie I hated it for some reason, but then every time I see it or someone mentions it, I remember a different scene that was funny. So, maybe I secretly like it.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 4, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I hated how crappy it was overall, but I still enjoy it for its pieces.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Why hate a guy we never knew how to use properly?
Overvalued? Well duh. Maybin never forced Jauron and Co. to pick him at 11 overall. He held out like any high pick rookie, cuz his agent told him to for more money. I woulda done the same.
Situational pass rusher? We we’ve seen 2 years of him being completely ineffective at everything else, it would only make sense to have him solely focus on the thing that made him a high prospect in the first place. Its like drafting Danny Woodhead and then asking him to play LT, you just don’t do that. He might be good for a blitz pick up here and there, but you’re really asking for it.
I’m glad Maybin is finding a role somewhere. He was a hard worker. I just dont wish him success against us, ever.
It is kind of tiresome
listening to fans complain that Maybin still stinks and his sacks with the Jets arent “real” sacks.
Facts are facts in two years with the Bills we couldnt find a way to use a guy at our greatest area of weakness who already has 3 sacks in a handful of games with a divisional opponent coached by a guy who has vast experience in the 3-4. Maybin was drafted too high by Dick Jauron to play the wrong defense and was never given the game time opportunity to make a play. It is what it is, I dont miss, not one bit. But I dont understand trying to rationalize that hes only doing well for the Jets because his sacks are lucky. Bogus.
Face facts Bills fans, he wasnt used right. And that started from the minute he became a Bill when he wasnt drafted right. Everyone in the world knew Orakpo was going to be the pick if the Bills went pass rusher. The fact that it was Maybin was a dismal decision.
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by poz on Nov 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and all of that is saying I agree with you Wien, realized I never actually said that haha
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by poz on Nov 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it has less to do with being used right but playing on the right defense. That is all I have ever suggested about his sacks. He would not have them anywhere else. They actually utilize his low weight and let him get blocked out. Because they have a secondary that can shut people down. For them he is tackling track athlete.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thats a good point
and his low weight problems were only made worse by Dick Jauron playing a 4-3. I think it was just a situation that was never going to right itself once he got off on the wrong foot.
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by poz on Nov 3, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yah even if he could stay at 250 which he could not. He was undersized and not big rnough to succeed. Parting ways was best for both sided.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed
sometimes guys need fresh starts with the right team and the right coach at the right time, just look at Scott Chandler
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by poz on Nov 3, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes they just take a while to mature.
Maybin would still be one of the youngest guys on the team, I would not be shocked to see him bulk up and turn into a real steal for the Jets next year and down the road.
(Not that I would like that, I wish him nothing but failure playing for another AFC East team).)
You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk. --abayarde
He is young but he has never been able to bulk up and stay thay way. At this point nothing is gonna drasticallly change.about him.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But how are those facts??
What was a fact is Maybin didn’t produce here, on D or special teams. Both cpaching staffs he played for didn’t believe he was good enough to even see much of the field. He was called out for poor practice work. He got handled by backup linemen with ease in practice and games. What else were the coaches supposed to do with a guy that showed less than nothing?
I don’t know if you’ve seen his Jet sacks, but two were definitely not traditional ones where he beat a blocker at all. Coverage sacks for sure with the QB sliding out of the pocket to try to make something happen. He did beat Ryan Mathews on a weak cut attempt, but Phil Rivers held it for longer than he needed to. I wouldn’t call them lucky, since he did something right (hustle); they just weren’t typical nor were they anything done to scheme him into making an impact.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2011 8:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The one good thing that maybin has is his motor
and the jets can cover with the best of them, so if the qb holds onto the ball for 6 secs or more, of course maybin is going to get to the qb. None of his sacks has shown me that he has any real football talent. I can’t think of one other team where he would succeed with. Just like in Buffalo, he would get thrown pass the quarterback, coverage will break down at 4-5 seconds, and ball is out of the qb’s hand as maybin is hustling back towards the qb
by Bestbillieve86 on Nov 4, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions
there are facts though
Facts:
With Buffalo: 27 games, 1 start, 0 sacks, 1 forced fumble
With Jets: 4 games, 0 starts, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles
Thats absurd. Even more so because he just got there.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Is it possible to move Maybin to SS at some point?
I heard somewhere that he’s still at 225lbs, which is pretty insane. Now he looks very lean and is tall. Does he have the tools to become a productive SS?
Yeah, he’s not going to play strong safety.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the weight was ever his biggest issue.
Nick Barnett only plays around 230 and he’s been doing great for us.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He is an ilb. Barrnett is not fighting a ot on a cosistent basis.
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by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's easy to see why we hate Maybin so much
Maybin is the poster boy for everything that was wrong with the old regime. They wanted a pass-rushing defensive end (after whiffing on Chris Ellis the previous year), and they picked a one-year wonder — who is barely big enough to play safety, let alone DE — with the #11 overall pick. The list of players we could have had instead is painful to read. At best, Maybin will be a situational pass rusher. For where he was drafted, that was epic failure… not on Maybin’s part, but on Modrak, Jauron, and Brandon. Chan Gailey wanted somebody who could be on the field more often, and Buddy Nix wanted somebody who is a better value for what he is getting paid.
Now that Modrak and his scouting reports have been removed from the equation, I’m looking forward to more productive drafts in the future.
His jersey might as well say “Modrak” on the back.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely agree with this. I don’t hate Aaron Maybin. I hate the IDEA of Aaron Maybin. Good call.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 4, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think i’m most annoyed they got nothing out of and nothing for him. A waste of money, like spending good money on a bad remake.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
I have not been overly surprised by his renaissance, but most Bills fans are
You can’t just claim something like this without saying why :P
I’ve said since March of 2009 that Maybin has what it takes to be a player. I called him the second-best defender in the draft that year. I wasn’t upset when the Bills cut him – painfully obvious he wasn’t going to do anything here – but am not surprised that a creative guy like Ryan found a way to get him to produce.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
that a creative guy like Ryan found a way to get him to produce.
Has any of it been Ryan’s creativity? Hasn’t most of it simply been that their defense could afford a roster spot for an extremely situational pass rusher who can’t play the run and can’t play special teams?
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by thefourwinds on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the Bills pass rushing woes pre-Washington, I would say the Bills would kill for a situational pass rusher right about now. Just one not named Aaron Maybin.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Nov 4, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
couple or predictions for sunday
chans runs the wildcat just to show off his new toy brad smith and wave it in rexs face
and brad smith takes a kick to the house
glad to see maybins getting action too bad are runningbacks know how to block and are qb doesnt hold the ball very long
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I might argue David Clowney.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 3, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
0% agree
I wonder all your concerns about Maybin. Even this guy has some numbers… these chicken is still a complete joke. Jets resign him because of multiple injuries. Not by results. I consider him the top dissapointment from Mondrak’s era.
IMO it’s very good news that he is playing with the Jets. I would welcome him directly with Corey… then every play he plays… every play I would surround him with third stringers.
wow…why so serious?
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by thrills&bills on Nov 3, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
To those of you who hate Maybin and wish him so much misfortune
and for those who wish him well check out this article on him.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Good article
Almost makes me want to see him continue to have success and prove the doubters wrong. Only not against the Bills.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Nov 3, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the self portrait because at least here in buffalo he portrayed many of those words. I have heard the thing about his kid multiple times. Usually paraded in someones face to try and make them feel bad.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Nov 3, 2011 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This
Just because one wishes for his career to flame out doesn’t mean they wish ill of him after his career.
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 3, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybin Blitzing???
Curious what Rex will do ala Blitz Fitz is pretty good vs Blitz so do JETS just Rush 3 and Steve Urkle, erghhh Aaron Maybin (Maybin our worst draft pick since Eric Flowers – similarities anyone?) and drop 7 in coverage to take away our split package
That would dicate our running the ball all day – and I like our chances then.
Seems like a day of slants, hitches and screens – and the 3rd and long staple – shuffle pass to Donald Jones or Freddy
To be honest if I were you, I'd run the ball anyway
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What's with all the Maybin sympathy?
geez, winning doesn’t mean we have to be push-overs….let the anger flow through you!!!
BARF!
i hope to god he is a non factor this sunday
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