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Is missing the playoffs good enough?

 

The game against the Jets today is obviously going to be important to the division and conference standings.  

 

 If the Bills win - and stay healthy(knock on coffee table) - then most people will be expecting us to make a good run at the division title, and would take a wild card spot, if need be.  Anything less would be fairly disappointing, in my opinion.

If the Bills lose - or lose Fitz, etc (knock on same wood) - then there are going to be some pretty tempered  expectations over this team's ability to claim a playoff stpot in the competitive AFC.  Making the playoffs would clearly be an uphill struggle; again, my opinion.

I know I should have posted this earlier in the week - but I'm curious of ya'll's(double apostophe!) opinions going into this game;  is missing the playoffs good enough?  Should we settle for nothing less after 11 years? 

I say missing the playoffs is ok at this point.  I'd still like to see 9-7 or 10-6, however.  If we win today then that will probably change my opinion of missing out on the playoffs.  However, my 5 month old son is intently watching me type this, and wearing his Bills attire in preparation of a Bills' victory.  He says we lift the trophy.  Period.  What do you say?

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Is missing the playoffs still good enough?
Yes
48 votes
No
70 votes

118 votes | Poll has closed

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Is missing the playoffs good, period?

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 6, 2011 8:04 AM EST reply actions  

Is that a philosophical question? Obviously it’s not good to miss the playoffs.

Considering we have one receiver who was drafted in the 7th round among a bunch of UDFA’s, Fitzpatrick as a late bloomer franchise QB – Erik Pears, Scott Chandler, Urbik, and others as huge surprises – and a collection of decent to really good defensive players who don’t quite mesh as a unit – well I’d say what we have accomplished this year is good enough to keep my chin up about this team; even if we miss the playoffs.

Good is different than good enough, to me.

by jj24 on Nov 6, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s a question for you, sir: Do you think we’re better than the Jets and the Pats? I’m not sure, honestly.

by jj24 on Nov 6, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the Jets are better on both sides of the ball

The Bills and Pats are split. The Bills have a better defense, while the Pats have a better offense.

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

by Joe P. on Nov 7, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

if we miss the playoffs

with a 10-6 record, i’m fine with that. But a 8-8 season or even a 9-7 will be very disappointment to me. The Bills think they have their franchise QB, i’m not sould yet, but i’m confident, so, we need make the playoffs this year. I like our team, and our defense, and think Moats could emerge ass the pass rush force we need. If Kyle is back and with Dareus playing great, we really could improve our defense. We need the playoffs this year. Or at least a 10 win season.

by Fernando brazil on Nov 6, 2011 8:35 AM EST reply actions  

I think 10 wins is the low end standard, too. That feels good to say, and actually mean it.

by jj24 on Nov 6, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact:

The Bills have played 183 games since their last playoff game.
That puts a lot of pressure on these Bills, who inherited the sins of their Bill fathers.
I really hope we win today.
I really hope we make the playoffs, too.
Playing over 200 games without a playoff appearance sounds terrible.

by jj24 on Nov 6, 2011 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

No

"WE PROTECT AND LIVE FOR THE HONOR OF RIDING IN THE WAGON BLASTER" -abayarde

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 6, 2011 9:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 6, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

This season, every season, no excuses.

"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix

by Port Royal on Nov 6, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

For the first time in as long as I can remember I actually feel this team can hang with anyone on Sunday. Whereas in the past I felt like the little kid that just broke the window heading for the back of the woodshed waiting for what was coming to me. So the answer is no. Playoffs or bust.

by billskk69 on Nov 6, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Right on.

That’s a funny analogy.

by jj24 on Nov 6, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

sounds like you've been there....
little kid that just broke the window heading for the back of the woodshed

;-0

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Nov 6, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

We all have. For what, 15-16 years now? :)

by billskk69 on Nov 6, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Beat the Jets by two scores we should win the division
Listening to my game day music
The Black Keys- Things ain,t like they used to be
Blue Oyster Cult-Godzilla "Oh no Fred Jacksons got the ball, go go Fred Jackson Yeaaaaah!

by billfan on Nov 6, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

NO!

Our time is now.

Carpe diem!

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 6, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

of course it’s not good enough – the goal is super bowl – not sure how missing the playoffs for the 50th straight year, regardless of the expectations coming into the season, is good enough…

by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 6, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

That’s for you to say as a fan. Obviously, the players feel anything less than a Super Bowl victory is not good enough. But let’s face it, no team like ours has ever won the Super Bowl.

by jj24 on Nov 7, 2011 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

losing is never good enough – that doesn’t mean that aren’t things you can build on or also be happy with the improvement shown from one season to the next, but in response to the title of this post, no, missing the playoffs definitely isn’t good enough

by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 7, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish you were my boss. Unfortunately, the state and federal education departments take this to the opposite extreme where they expect every NFL team to make the playoffs.

by MattRichWarren on Nov 7, 2011 7:06 AM EST reply actions  

Like you don’t have enough to deal with already? Keep up the good work – other teachers out there, too.

by jj24 on Nov 7, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

To add:

Matt, you seeme like a sound and solid guy. I hope you are able to help improve the needs you see in the educational system. It’s a shame things have to be so challenging for teachers to provide students with the attention and guidance they require. Again, keep up the good work I’m sure you do.
Take care.

by jj24 on Nov 7, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

ha, teachers and their administrations are half the problem! No disrespect to MRW, whom I don’t even know, but with all the IEP’s and the fact that they teach like it’s still the 1920’s is beyond ridiculous – in no way, shape or form do they prepare students for college or the working world, which is why we see so many young people living at home into their mid to late 20’s and unable to grow professionally…

by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 8, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW....you clearly have no clue what you are talking about
The Blueberry Story
A business leader learns his lesson.
by Jamie Robert Vollmer
Special Note: The author of this story was gracious enough to give us permission to reprint his story and added this comment. "I have received many kind words for telling the Blueberry story, but the real credit goes to the teacher. I took some license with her comments for publication, but she was eloquent and passionate; she did an amazing job of both crystallizing the message and waking me up. My teenagers would have called me a “slug” had I not been changed by her words."

‘If I ran my business the way you people operate your schools, I wouldn’t be in business very long!"

I stood before an auditorium filled with outraged teachers who were becoming angrier by the minute. My speech had entirely consumed their precious 90 minutes of in- service training. Their initial icy glares had turned to restless agitation. You could cut the hostility with a knife.

I represented a group of business people dedicated to improving public schools. I was an executive at an ice cream company that became famous in the middle-1980s when People Magazine chose its blueberry flavor as the “Best Ice Cream in America.”

I was convinced of two things. First, public schools needed to change; they were archaic selecting and sorting mechanisms designed for the Industrial Age and out of step with the needs of our emerging “knowledge society.” Second, educators were a major part of the problem: They resisted change, hunkered down in their feathered nests, protected by tenure and shielded by a bureaucratic monopoly. They needed to look to business. We knew how to produce quality. Zero defects! Total Quality Management! Continuous improvement!

A school is not an ice cream company: It can’t send back its inferior blueberries.


In retrospect, the speech was perfectly balanced—equal parts ignorance and arrogance.

As soon as I finished, a woman’s hand shot up. She appeared polite, pleasant. She was, in fact, a razor-edged, veteran high school English teacher who had been waiting to unload.


She began quietly, “We are told, sir, that you manage a company that makes good ice cream.”

I smugly replied, “Best ice cream in America, ma’am.”

“How nice,” she said. “Is it rich and smooth?”

“Sixteen percent butterfat,” I crowed.

“Premium ingredients?” she inquired.

“Super-premium! Nothing but triple-A.” I was on a roll. I never saw the next line coming.

“Mr. Vollmer,” she said, leaning forward with a wicked eyebrow raised to the sky, “when you are standing on your receiving dock and you see an inferior shipment of blueberries arrive, what do you do?”

In the silence of that room, I could hear the trap snap. I was dead meat, but I wasn’t going to lie.

“I send them back.”

“That’s right!” she barked, “and we can never send back our blueberries. We take them big, small, rich, poor, gifted, exceptional, abused, frightened, confident, homeless, rude, and brilliant. We take them with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, junior rheumatoid arthritis, and English as their second language. We take them all. Every one. And that, Mr. Vollmer, is why it’s not a business. It’s school.”

In an explosion, all 290 teachers, principals, bus drivers, aides, custodians, and secretaries jumped to their feet and yelled, “Yeah! Blueberries! Blueberries!”

Schools reflect the attitudes, beliefs, and health of the communities they serve, and therefore, to improve public education means more than changing our schools, it means changing America.

And so began my long transformation.

Since then, I have visited hundreds of schools. I have learned that a school is not a business. Schools are unable to control the quality of their raw material, they are dependent upon the vagaries of politics for a reliable revenue stream, and they are constantly mauled by a howling horde of disparate, competing customer groups that would send the best CEO screaming into the night.

None of this negates the need for change. We must change what, when, and how we teach to give all children maximum opportunity to thrive in a postindustrial society. But educators cannot do this alone; these changes can occur only with the understanding, trust, permission, and active support of the surrounding community. For the most important thing I have learned is that schools reflect the attitudes, beliefs, and health of the communities they serve, and therefore, to improve public education means more than changing our schools, it means changing America.

Jamie Robert Vollmer, a former business executive and attorney, is now a keynote presenter and consultant who works to increase community support for public schools. He lives in Fairfield, Iowa, and can be reached by e-mail at jamie@jamievollmer.com.

 

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

by Joe P. on Nov 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife teaches 1st grade............. for 15 years.........

……… makes a whopping 40K (before taxes, benefits, union, etc). And works, at a minimum, 50+ hours a week.
Are you kidding me?
Every damn year, new lesson plan formats, some new grand theory they have to implement, all the IDP’s, eval preparations, kids with bad attitudes (1st graders!) and the parents don’t give a crap because they are screwed up too, conferences, mandatory extra training classes………. it never ends.
We both are glad she has a job, but this is utter bullsh&t.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Now this is a man who knows what teachers face on a daily basis

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

by Joe P. on Nov 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

typical thoughtless and defensive response – haha, i was a teacher and an independent tutor for years, and my wife still is a teacher- two great friends are AD’s and another was a superintendent until his health deteriorated over the last couple years and he had to resign his post – believe me, I’m well aware of what goes on inside and outside of schools…

Since this is a sports blog, I apologize for even bringing thoughts like this into the forum – clearly unrelated

by JustAskTheAxis on Nov 9, 2011 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL.....

 NCLB is a joke that will collapse upon itself soon enough.

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

by Joe P. on Nov 7, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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