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Jets 27, Bills 11: Buffalo Dominated At Home

Sometimes when you watch your favorite football team repeatedly get punched in the teeth for 60 minutes, you just need to take a night off from talking - or thinking - about it. Hence our unusually late post-game recap from yesterday's 27-11 thrashing that the New York Jets handed the host Buffalo Bills.

Do you know what was surprising about this game? Not a single, solitary thing. We knew the Jets would make life difficult for Ryan Fitzpatrick and the passing offense because of their outstanding secondary and exotic pressures; Fitzpatrick completed 15-of-31 passes for 191 yards with a garbage time score and two early interceptions. Chan Gailey couldn't find a chink in the Jets' armor defensively.

On the other side of the ball, the Jets - surprise! - ran the ball effectively (126 yards as a team) and set up the play-action game for Mark Sanchez (20-28, 230 yards, one touchdown, one interception). Buffalo trailed just 3-0 at halftime, but the Jets had dominated to that point, keeping the Bills in it with two ugly turnovers.

Buffalo is now 5-3 and in a three-way tie with the Jets and New England Patriots, who lost a home game yesterday. As I said last week, it was just one game - and the Bills are still obviously alive in the divisional race. After getting outclassed by the Jets, however, one must wonder how seriously they can contend.

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i have been saying all along

bills went from 5-1 to 6-5 in 2008…. we needed to win our 6th game to step out of 2008’s demon…

no matter what you say – its a new team, new management, new players….none of that matters as long as we step out of that… it definitely looks like we are heading the same way… that’s why i never believed this team is a playoff team… as i have been saying all along, 9-7… that’s the best we might do

by statcruncher on Nov 7, 2011 6:49 AM EST reply actions  

As a Jets fan I can honestly say

this is a much better Bills team than the one that started 5-1 in 2008-just look at the teams you beat that year in those 5 games, they were putrid. I think that the Bills still need defensive help (generally team interceptions are not really a skill so when this comes back down to earth it will put more pressure on your team) but the Bills are a good and well coached team.

by Buzzy on Nov 7, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he likes to post this same thing on just about every thread. The majority of the rest of us understand that this team is better than that team. However, beating the Jets is one demon we have yet to slay.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 7, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

everything in hindsight… everyone were just as excited in 2008 and now act as if this team is better…

i accept this team might be better than in 2008 but not because of personnel… it’s only because of gailey and his ability to use scrap…even fitz is a scrap… that’s why i say they will end up 9-7 instead of 7-9…

i dont care about the money we paid fitz… fitz got the market value which is great… he is still a below average qb…i wrote a post showing fitz averages 41% completion against rex… well he end up at 48% this game… franchise qb

by statcruncher on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, ignoring the rest of the season, this obviously means he’s not a franchise QB.

Seriously, every QB has teams that he performs poorly against. The Jets are obviously built in a way to beat the Bills (and the Pats). Brady has bad games against the Jets. They are a good defense with a good secondary.

But my larger point is that the rest of us get it. We know your prediction hasn’t changed. Neither has mine, for what it’s worth. I agree that we’re not better than 9-7. However, I don’t reference 2008 ever, because it’s a different team, a different coach, different personnel, different mentality, different schedule. There is nothing similar between the two years and the two teams at all, so it’s a useless argument.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 7, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

yes,
it a different coach, different personnel, mentality, schedule, all that….

what remains the same though is mentality to start believing too soon… my posts are not against this team, my posts are against talking about 11-5 or division championship… i cringe everytime anyone mentions division champions… how can anyone not see how low we are on talent… it’s great we will end up 9-7… thats a big progress in the right direction… but there a several questions…

the only reason the offense, Oline, our qb and the receivers are working out is because of quick release scheme and not talent… fred has always been an above average back, that’s it…
when the scheme fails and we are forced to go deep, all of a sudden the oline is clearly below average coz they cant give enough time for fitz who is not good deep anyway… the defense sucks as it is…. long way to go

by statcruncher on Nov 7, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s fine, but that’s not how it is framed in your posts. There is no comparison between the team then and the team now that holds any weight. The fan base, maybe, but even that doesn’t make much sense since this team is CLEARLY better than the 2008 team, so doesn’t it make sense that the fan base should have more hope this year?

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

we can still do a lot better than 9-7

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Nov 7, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey it took us a while to get the Pats monkey off our back,

and you guys handled them this season already. Division demons are never predictable. Something like the Phins going 6-0 in the division and be 6-10 for the year while everyone else in the division has better records then them, would not surprise me in the least anymore.

by Timmaht on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Time to regroup...

5-3 is still a heck of a lot better than 0-8 last year at this time…

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Nov 7, 2011 6:50 AM EST reply actions  

If someone told me Buffalo was 5-3 at the halfway point, I would’ve called them crazy. It stings to get hit by the Jets like that, but it’s not the end of the world.

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by KPaup on Nov 7, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

the jets match up superb against us

you really can not pick a worse team for the bills to play right now. the jets corners completely eliminate the spread offense’ effectiveness. there offense is the run/PA we haven’t been able to stop in quite awhile. sure this hurts. seeing buffalo play like the colts will do that. but I’m still confident that this group will be able to pick up the pieces and play well next week.

don’t doom the bills just yet,

NOBODY circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

by heff17 on Nov 7, 2011 6:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

The Bills got out-physicaled all over the field. It led to drops in the passing game, Fred Jackson’s turnover and not-so-great day, and more.

by MattRichWarren on Nov 7, 2011 7:03 AM EST reply actions  

THIS ---->

After getting outclassed by the Jets, however, one must wonder how seriously they can contend.

by Michael_Necci on Nov 7, 2011 7:16 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe this loss

Will smarten up Gailey and Nix, to understand that to live and die by the spread = lucky to get past 1st rd of playoffs. You need a power running/play action off it game too, for when you find yourself in a playoff struggle style dogfight, that is what makes Green bay so successful, They have their fullbacks for the full house, and their tight ends too, for those times when they are forced into a dogfight instead of a shootout.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 7, 2011 7:21 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

So they are 5-3 and you think they are gonna throw our their offensive scheme?

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 7, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’ believe “throw out” was ever used. Just maybe have other options when facing a defense like the jets.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." - Vince Lombardi

by thrills&bills on Nov 7, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Well to suggest they need to smarten up certainly seems to suggest its an entirely flawed strategy. The sample size of teams using an offense like this is small enough for me to say we dont know whether its incapable of advancing in the playoffs. I do think we need to have answers to what the Jets defense presented, but I’m not sure it requires even a different personnell grouping

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 7, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

dose of reality

The Jets game plan laid open the Bills’ weaknesses and, against a good team, those weaknesses are compounded. The Pats win was heralded as a bellwether, but, the Pats defense is not what it used to be. Sadly, I think yesterday’s result (and that of the Bengals game) is a closer indication of how the Bills will fare against good defenses.
To contend, there needs to be a deep threat, LBs that can cover TEs, a pass rush, and consistent QB accuracy, to name a few.
The Bills are lacking much of the above. It’s not negativity, but rather reality. The good news is the team IS better, fun to watch, and more competitive. They are not, however, world beaters or playoff caliber IMO.

This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.

by fansince60 on Nov 7, 2011 7:26 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think yesterday’s result (and that of the Bengals game) is a closer indication of how the Bills will fare against good defenses

It’s more a closer indication of how the Bills will do against teams that have deep secondaries who can press and provide tight coverage while stopping the run. Oakland is a good defense, but no longer have the secondary that can provide tight press coverage.

Against a team like the Jets, it is better to go with bigger packages instead of 4 and 5 wideouts and forse Revis an Cromartie to make tackles in the run game against bigger blockers like fullbacks and tight ends, then try to provide some separtion for the wideouts by running play action. This has been ignored by Ni and Gailey thinking they can win with the spread alone.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 7, 2011 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

This has been ignored by Nix and Gailey thinking they can win with the spread alone.

Agreed. This approach by Nix/Gailey is one of my unnamed weaknesses. In 3 games, it’s been proven the spread doesn’t work on the Jets. To be playoff contenders, you have to build to win in your division. We are not (currently) built to win against the Jets both from a personnel and philosophical standpoint.

This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.

by fansince60 on Nov 7, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we just match up poorly with them – this team is more apt to beat teams like the Pats than the Jets, Ravens, Steelers.

I’m pretty interested to see the NE/NYJ match up next weekend – I think the Jets can make the Pats go 0-3 in their past 3 games.

I’m not overly concerned about this though – the Jets went to the AFC Championship game 2 years in a row for a reason. This is year 2 of a complete roster overhaul – we had to know games like this were coming.

For me the only thing that bothered me was Fitzpatricks ineffectiveness – he was lost out there – Ryan confused him and Fitz was throwing balls in places that he shouldn’t have.

IMO – Fitz was more of the reason we lost but I couldn’t see coverages all the time but his decision making was poor.

by J2 on Nov 7, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Fitz’s success to date has been due to short/intermediate routes. With little deep threat to worry about (shut down corners), the Jets neutralized Fitz’s “bread and butter”. They disguised coverages and, yes, he was lost out there as a result. He is a journeyman QB and serviceable, but, he does not have the skill and accuracy to fit the ball into tight coverage consistently.

This team is making me skeptical of my skepticism- putting the crow in the oven to slow roast.

by fansince60 on Nov 7, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

With little deep threat to worry about (shut down corners), the Jets neutralized Fitz’s "bread and butter".

I couldn’t agree more. I also think that they’ll do that to the Pats next week because of their lack of a deep threat. I’m not going to lose sleep over this one though – they’ve been one of the best teams in the league the past 2 years. If we lose to the Cowboys or Dolphins in this manner then we’re in real trouble.

We do need a deep threat because Donald Jones isn’t that.

by J2 on Nov 7, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bills don’t have a “bigger package”. Jets DL/LB’s dominated despite having several starters out with injuries. Bills were consistently stuffed on 3rd/4th down. Jets OL dominated too. Jets rushing average was deceptive, key is that they got first downs on the ground whenever they wanted.

Note to Nix: Games are won and lost where the ball is snapped.

by Rick A on Nov 7, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

That's my point
The Bills don’t have a "bigger package"

They need to get one so they have it when they need it against teams like the Jets if they want to be serious contenders.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 7, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

aren’t the Bills one of the biggest teams in the league? especially in the trenches?

by J2 on Nov 7, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Havent they gotten bigger the last two years? I mean, there are some injuries on the d-line but on both sides “philosophically” they’ve done nothing but look to get bigger and stronger. Dn’t confuse a spread team with a team that wants to be small ballers. Thats not what they’ve been doing… Offense could use a physical receiver (not a simple deep threat a la Lee Evans, but a tall physical fast TE or WR, but of course, lots of team want these things).

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 7, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Dez Bryant would work…

"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix

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by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 7, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Massive "package" quote failure.
The Bills don’t have a "bigger package".

Size does matter.

by Timmaht on Nov 7, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Reality Check

This was the type of game that you often see in the playoffs. The Jets and Bills played a good game. Each team made mistakes. Each team came back. Unfortunately the Bills had few answers to whatever the Jets O&D were doing. That probably has a lot to do with the Bills roster not having played together for all that long and not having the depth the Jets enjoy on each side of the ball. Learning how to win when faced with competition that makes you play a different game is just another step in the growth process.

Go big or go home.

by jackkemp15 on Nov 7, 2011 8:42 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Ouch

a butt kickin.

thought the D was more than acceptable in the 1st half w/bend not break. big step up from last year.

this one falls completely on the O & its coaches. should have play-actioned to Fred all day long. Not going after their corners more was sad.

Big picture is its the first one like this in a while & its part of the cycle. How the Bills respond to the butt kickin is really what matters at this point.

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420

by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 7, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Worst day of my life.

I was even going to try and not come on here today, or think about the game, but here I am, 9 in the morning.

That game sucked.

"WE PROTECT AND LIVE FOR THE HONOR OF RIDING IN THE WAGON BLASTER" -abayarde

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 7, 2011 9:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I’d have to think you haven’t experienced much if that was the worst day of your life. Or you dabble in hyperbole. Either way, it’s one game and a third loss. I’m most annoyed I wasted a glorious afternoon indoors watching a boring game.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 7, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

"Or you dabble in hyperbole."

Bingo.

"WE PROTECT AND LIVE FOR THE HONOR OF RIDING IN THE WAGON BLASTER" -abayarde

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Nov 7, 2011 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bad but not a total loss.

I have to echt Blood, sweat & Win’s thoughts on the first-half D here: even though we were manhandled on both sides of the ball, and the defense was on the field for over 20 minutes in the first half, they took us to halftime down 3-0.

If we could have found an offensive spark at all – and maybe having the second INT count would have helped – a few points would have been all it would have taken.

I’m not saying the Bills played great football today, the Jets ran on us at will, I’m just saying that the defense played with a hell of a lot of heart, more than we’ve seen in a great while, to keep a rough game close through a very hard first half.

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by cmeid on Nov 7, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

I meant "echo" not "echt'

You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk. --abayarde

by cmeid on Nov 7, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Stellar

was my original thought on the D considering they were still adjusting to life w/out Merriman & Williams. Yrds/carry improvement from last yr was significant.

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working hard till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud." coach Karma420

by Blood, sweat & Win on Nov 9, 2011 5:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Couple points

1- Where was Brad Smith this game?
2- Any update on Lindell’s injury?
3- What else could McKelvin done on the 42 yd “pass interference” call that iced the game?- looking back at the ballhis legs got tangled up with Holmes and the ball was overthrown.
4- Why did they force the pass so much when only down three and Jackson was getting 5yds a pop?

by Wyrd UpSide on Nov 7, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Is Jackson's left hand hurt?

It looked like he was dangling his arm after the fumble. That would also explain the dropped passes.

by Rick A on Nov 7, 2011 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, but we don’t know how badly.

He went out for a while after that but was able to come back in later.

You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk. --abayarde

by cmeid on Nov 7, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

After getting outclassed by the Jets, however, one must wonder how seriously they can contend.

No, I really don’t, at least not in any way that I didn’t before. This Bills team beat the Patriots, who I believe to be better than the Jets. Yes, this team’s weakness is against teams that run the ball and can shut down a passing attack. This Jets team is built as in a way that makes them a hard matchup, and yes, they were a very good team. But every team that isn’t Green Bay has had some bad games. Pittsburgh had a real stinker as I recall, but they’re still a contender. If the Bills go on a losing skid, then maybe I’ll say they can’t conted. But if they take the next two games I will be greatly anticipating the rematch.

by Hopefulcynic on Nov 7, 2011 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

hear!!! hear!!!!

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Nov 7, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate people looking for silver linings...

But we got whooped. Completely and thoroughly.

If you want a silver lining, its that we were shown in no uncertain terms we have a long way to go before we are serious contenders in this league.

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I was giving them away
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by oompaloompa on Nov 7, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

As Hopefulcynic said a post above, every team except GB has had a bad game.

Are the Patriots or Steelers no longer a contender when they have a bad game?

Sure, that’s a very optimistic way to look at this. But, simply, one bad game does not a good football team unmake!

You will not need prayers you do not need your soul. You will be in a place not even the. Undead. Walk. --abayarde

by cmeid on Nov 7, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

We qualify as a good team, but so do a dozen other teams. Good teams get wiped on the field by great teams, like the Jets, who are on their way to the playoffs year in and year out. Sometimes a good team knocks a great team back to earth. Sometimes, good teams on their way up to being a great team, knocks a great team off that is on its way back down to being just a good team, or even a crappy team.

Over the course of the season, the cream rises.

We got embarrassed in almost every phase of the game yesterday, in our house.

We are not cream. Yet. That game was a reality check.

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I was giving them away
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by oompaloompa on Nov 7, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Jets Prove......

You can turn things around.
Admittedly, we got the crap beat out of us.
By a Jets team that was embarrassed by the Raiders and the Ravens not too long ago.
 If they can turn it around, why can’t we?
This is the NFL, things change overnight. I still believe the Buffalo Bills have not maxed-out on their potential. Let’s see how the Bills respond to their first butt-whipping of the year before we go back to our five-year plan notion and 2012 mock drafts.

Go Bills!

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by podunkowego on Nov 7, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Turning Point

2nd half kickoff gave the Jets the field position advantage, a great punt pinned the Bills deep. A three and out allowed the Jets to keep field position and make it 6-0. A poor kick return and Jacksons fumble all but sealed the win.

If the Bills don’t allow a huge kickoff return to open the 2nd half, we could be talking about a different outcome.

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- Buddy Nix

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by dnvrBillsfan on Nov 7, 2011 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Or if we got to keep our second INT.

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by cmeid on Nov 7, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah!

Or if our offense showed up ready to play and because of this, The Jets offense had. A kajillion chances to get things right yesterday.
 the Bills offense will play better next-time even in NJ. (can’t play worse)

GoBills!

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by podunkowego on Nov 7, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I do think that kickoff return was a HUGE factor in their second-half troubles. They wasted their first drive trying not to surrender a safety.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 7, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Well ...

126 yards rushing is a far sight from last year’s 276.
Yes, we got thumped – but there are gradations.

by zipper on Nov 7, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

surprising

I think the surprising aspect of this domination for me was that Gailey was totally unable to adjust in-game and the players themselves appeared to be sleep-walking (especially the offense and DBs). The Jets are a tough match-up for anyone, but I felt like Buffalo has progressed past the point of getting manhandled at home. I view Sanchez as a good QB who is not at all indefensible, but you can’t let him complete his passes with pre-snap reads as he did throughout the day. He can become flustered and skittish and Buffalo’s conservative defensive gameplan let him get in a rhythm and played right into Schottenheimer’s hands. The DBs got no favors from the officials who called Buffalo’s coverage tight and by the letter of the law, but allowed New York’s receivers and DBs to make down field passes into wrestling matches. That being said, the DBs played poorly overall (my patience with McKelvin is just about exhausted at this point- he’s borderline worthless- no more than a fringe dimeback in this league- Reggie Corner with better pedigree).

Oh well, 3 game road trip with the season on the line. We’ll find out everything we need to know about this team by the end of Thanksgiving weekend. Would Buffalo still be in this thing at 6-4? Probably, but given the landscape of the AFC, they need to aim higher. Needing to go 2-1 on this trip is scary, but after yesterday’s disgrace, that’s the unfortunate reality.

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by Port Royal on Nov 7, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

Yes to me the biggest goat was Gailey. And honestly thats because I hold him to a higher bar, he may be our most valuable person simply by fitting what we have to a scheme that works. But he needs to be better prepared for defenses coming off the bye that try and take away the bread and butter. If we are a team that wins by scheme a lot of the time, we need to be prepared with Plan B. It really reminded me of how New England seemed flummoxed against the Jets last year int he playoffs. New England needs to know what the answers are if a defense is gonna sell out on the underneath zone or try and jump quick reads and so does Chan.

And yeah, it hurt that PI seemed to be one-sided, but that mattered more late. The first half stats and the Fred JAckson fumble at the top of the third seemed to be the story of ineptitude on offense.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Nov 7, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

couldn't have said it better myself

especially the lack of adjustments from Gailey. where was our offensive genius?

by LABillsFan on Nov 7, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He wasn’t wearing a vest yesterday. That’s why they lost!

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 7, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not a person that puts much into the refs

but in this game I believe they had a huge impact. Two terrible pass interference calls, a Jets WR (I can’t remember which one) obviously pushed off, and that terrible spot on 3rd down. Now granted, the Bills have to convert 4th and inches, but how do you come to the conclusion that the ball should have been there? I haven’t been this mad after a loss in a long time.

I think because I am terrified this team is falling apart again. They have a brutal 3 game stretch coming up that they will probably go 1-2 in.

A couple of major flaws have surfaced yet again. They need an athletic TE to help spread the field up the middle. They need a fast WR to go deep. They need a pass rushing OLB, and they need another good CB.

by RabidBuffalo on Nov 7, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

We Were Dominated!

In all 3 phases of the game. Sure the O, the D and special teams, but how about strength, speed and smarts? It looked like we were playing Dallas in a Super Bowl.

by chuxter5 on Nov 7, 2011 9:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Getting Bell back.....

Or even Hairston will make a big difference. Levitre is our best guard in space by far and it was he who sprung Fred on a lot his long runs or screens.
Getting Kyle back 100% would mean even more. He was simply dominant last year and not only would he get tackles for losses, but alter flows and cause a cascade effect.
Our defense is still jelling and IMHO will improve this year Kyle or not.
The offense has not been hot since week three, they really need to play better and mix something new in to give coordinators something else to chew.
 Maybe Bell comes back and the light clicks on for Donald and they re-catch their fire….
You never know….

Go Bills!

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by podunkowego on Nov 7, 2011 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

The Bills are who we thought they were...

They play hard and crush inferior teams, and can pull out wins against good teams, but they cannot compete with elite teams. And yesterday, the Jets looked elite despite Sanchez’s turnovers, with their defense playing very well and their offense moving the ball with ease. The Bills will unfortunately not be able to hang with PIT, BAL, or NYJ if that playoff matchup ever comes.

by Sluss88 on Nov 7, 2011 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

Not yesterday anyways.....

Let us watch and find out.

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by podunkowego on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Biggest thing to me was play calling. We tried up the middle all day. It was not working and we try it all day. Gailey uses a challenge what does he come up with a run up the middle. How many times do you try it and not realize it fails. Plus handing it to freddy on 4th and short has failed all year. It takes to long to develop and has not be succesful all year. Gailey used the same unsuccesfull plays all day. Until the game was out of hand.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Nov 7, 2011 10:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

That was the worst performance of the year. You are bound to stink up the joint once in a while. The offense was offensive. But, it’s still a three way race in the AFC East. Thoughts going forward.

1) Chris Kelsey is a good football player, not All-Pro good, decent enough. I think the D looks better when he is in the line up.
2) I can’t blame the officiating for the loss, but there were some terrible, terrible calls. The no call on Plax’s shove and the mystery D PI on Holmes were laughable. Still not sure how Wilson’s INT gets overturned. The Bills can’t afford to let the refs gift- wrap 14 points for anyone.
3) Bell or Hairston need to get back on the field quick. Levite has played solid, but they need the best 5 lineman on the field going forward.
4) I love Fred Jackson, but Chan needs to find a way to get Spiller involved as well. He will never be a game hanger if he doesn’t touch the ball.
5) The D played well enough to win. They didn’t dominate and gave up yards, but we’re stingy enough in the first half to keep it close.
6) The next 8 weeks are going to be fun. The next two games are winnable and the Jets rematch will be huge. If there is anything that the AFC has shown so far is that it is wide open.

by JP-3 on Nov 7, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

That overturn of Wilson’s INT was terrible. I even recall Simms saying that the replay review should further clarify that it was the correct call and an INT.

But they would have still lost, seeing how inept the offense was.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely. We did not deserve to win yesterday…but it was REALLY deflating to see the calls go against us that really shouldn’t have.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 7, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

we need kelsey. hopefully k. williams comes back too. dareus seemingly got dominated yesterday by jets’ center.

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by chaucer on Nov 7, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody...

On the Jets offense was dominating….. The D just got tired and worn.

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by podunkowego on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

as far as playoff hopes go, we have to win the next two games. we have lost 3 out of the last 5. we need to beat dallas and miami, then we’ll be 7-3 (which is good) going into the our rematch with the jets.

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by chaucer on Nov 7, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

If our offense showed up we couldve won.

Really we were dominated, but it was 3-0 at the half. I think Chan realizes that he needs to make changes to his playcall when playing a defense like the jets. But look to next week. Lynch had a great game against the Cowgirls. what do you think Freddy is gon do. Feed freddy the ball and win the game, then we got Miami- Win. So we get to rematch them after 2 straight wins at 7-3, and hopefully a better offensive gameplan.

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by tomcs on Nov 7, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Alot of teams have what I call a signature loss. They have a big beatdown or loss before they really take off. Hopefully buffalo just had theres. Buffalo learned alot in this loss. This loss will make our team better in the long run.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Nov 7, 2011 7:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Overreaction Galliford

How seriously can the Bills contend? Was that a bait line for comments or serious? If it’s serious, tsk, tsk. It was a meltdown to be sure, but a beneficial crisis that teaches lessons across the organization. Poor coaching and very poor hands throughout the game. The defense acquitted itself quite well. Take a breath.

by riverraynz on Nov 7, 2011 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

It was a legitimate question. The Bills faced off against a team that is built to beat a team like the Bills. When the Pats play the Jets, it’s generally a close, grueling game. When the Bills played them, it was a beat down. This obviously begs the question of whether or not the Bills are actually contenders in the division. A single game doesn’t tell you everything, but it certainly doesn’t tell you nothing.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just wondering where is the Fitz that made questionable throws into coverage but a lot of times came away with big plays due to guts and great receiver effort? The effort is there, but Fitz’s fortitude seems to have dropped. His “deep balls” Sunday don’t count. That’s what I miss from Fitz last season and even early this season. Willingness to put it up and trust in his receivers. The offense has become stagnant and consists of short slants, middle runs, and…that was about it. Where has the Gunslinger gone?

by teddymv on Nov 7, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

another week here we come

So the team was dominated but as some fellow rumblers stated above the heart the D showed in particular shouldn’t be discounted. A bit of luck to start the second half and it could’ve been a different story. I thought Gailey did try a lot of different things it was more the case that not enough of them worked. I wouldn’t be too hasty to say he cost Buffalo the game. Execution and the Jets D cost Buffalo the game. But remember Jets had 2 weeks to prepare for this one so it was always going to be hard. Don’t expect next week to be a lay down – this is against Gailey’s old team, if the players wanted to win against KC for coach when he was just an OC there imagine what they will want to do for him against the Cowgirls.

by Billsdownunder on Nov 7, 2011 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

Defense played well. we beat ourselves no doubt. Chan also went in blind he studied the week seven tape they were no good obviously Rex made changes so we had no clue so i expect the next to be much better. oh horrible play calls too.

by john9044 on Nov 8, 2011 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

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