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Chargers 37, Bills 10: Sixth Straight Loss Means No Playoffs

The Buffalo Bills fell to 5-8 today and were officially eliminated from playoff contention following their loss to the San Diego Chargers. Buffalo closed the gap to 16-10 in the third quarter, but that is as close as the two teams got in the second half as San Diego took the ensuing possession for a touchdown - following a successful fake punt. Buffalo never got back in the game.

The offense had a good drive into Chargers territory in the third quarter after a big pass play from Ryan Fitzpatrick to Stevie Johnson. That drive stalled when Buffalo couldn't convert from inside the 10-yard line, and they settled for a field goal. Fitzpatrick also threw two brutal interceptions on the day that turned into 13 San Diego points.

Marcell Dareus' name was called several times on the defensive side of the ball, and Bryan Scott recovered a Philip Rivers fumble in the end zone for Buffalo's only touchdown. Antonio Gates shredded the Bills secondary all day and caught two touchdown passes, while San Diego barely received any resistance en route to their second straight win.

This is the Bills' second losing streak of at least six games in the Buddy Nix-Chan Gailey era, and major questions are starting to surface about the team moving forward. Have at it, Bills fans. The comments section is yours.

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Lose out, get as high a pick ass possible

Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train

by J. Mackin on Dec 11, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions   3 recs

^^ This

"Teams that don't deserve to win.... usually don’t. Today is no exception." -- Mr Huge Pecs
"Nick Barnett is everywhere. He is behind you right now." -- Munchausen

by ChuckBuffInFlo on Dec 11, 2011 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

rec’d

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

although this isn’t that hard to do…they won’t beat Denver or New England…and hopefully they lose to miami next week, thus putting miami after them in the draft.

by jeters02 on Dec 11, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Even with JP starting next week?

by ManitobaBillsFan on Dec 11, 2011 7:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Have you seen how every QB that plays the Bills has an amazing day? Losman has a gun. It could get ugly.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 11, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Other than Fitz and Tyler Palko

Losman was easily the worst QB I watched all day. And that includes Carson Palmer, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, Caleb Hanie and Josh Freeman. He is atrocious. It wouldn’t shock me if he’s successful next week, though.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

K, exactly my thoughts too. It’s not that he’s great (we all know better) – it’s that he has attributes which the Bills’ defense will struggle to defend.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Losing out pretty much guarantees a top 10 pick and may sneak us into the top 5 again

"You are every bit as good as everyone else, but not one bit better."
-Eldred Lee

by arbon78 on Dec 11, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If we’re top 5 I’d hope CHIX would pony up the necessary picks to St. Louis for whats left of Griffin/Luck. It can’t cost THAT much to move up 3 spots.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a chart that tells you

And yeah, to move up three spots in the first round costs a LOT

by FrankL on Dec 11, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Worth every bit it takes to get a franchise QB

"You are every bit as good as everyone else, but not one bit better."
-Eldred Lee

by arbon78 on Dec 11, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

So true. I mean, what good does picking additional Spillers, Maybins, McKelvins, and Whitners do the franchise? Pick someone that makes a positive difference to the team.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 11, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don’t forget McGahees and Lynches. London Fletcher also had a good day. At least Losman was terrible.

by Luther6 on Dec 11, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Miami will end up with Robert Griffin III. On one side, i’d be ok if we lost all our remaining games if that meant us getting RG3. On the other side, after the way we started the season and the way Miami started, it would be embarassing and pathetic to end up with a worse record than Miami.

by BuffaloSpaniard on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

THIS
after the way we started the season and the way Miami started, it would be embarassing and pathetic to end up with a worse record than Miami.

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

no we need to win games

Unfortunately they suck so that isn’t going to happen.

"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix

"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez

by dnvrBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This team

The Bills should be power ranked at 32. They are the worst team in the league right now. Gailey has no answers and his play-calling becoming worse each game. Fitzy’s play speaks for itself.

by Coach Bob on Dec 11, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

normally I would agree, but we have a build in excuses.....key injuries and playing a lot of young players

This team can always look at the way they started the season, and build on that. The only down side is Stevie might look elsewhere.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Dec 11, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve looked completely dejected during the latter half of the game. I think he will be our latest Bill who runs for the money and the rainbow of a playoff berth.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed....except that I don't think Stevie will be the last.

No playoff = losing players to FA

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Dec 11, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

dont deface stevie by saying he will run for the money

say, he did his time here and earned his freedom and good life in the future elsewhere…

i am starting to believe in that perception with every passing moment

by statcruncher on Dec 11, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely sergeant

especially since reports have said that the 2 sides are still ways apart. stevie has every right to follow the $! we suck, and we don’t value winning now! every team in the nfl knows that this is a win NOW not later league EXCEPT the buffalo bills! I dont think we ever will until Ralph passes, no offense. our decade plus debacle has to fall on his shoulders as the owner/shot-caller. he doesnt spend $ on top FA’s yet he extends and spends $ on players/coaches who flat out SUCK! So, if they don’t offer stevie the $ I think he deserves, he will leave quick. and I think this FO is going to test the market with Freddy. they have to play spiller more in order for them to justify spending a 1st rd pick on him, plus they picked up Choice who’s familiar with Gailey’s offense, then you have johnny white as your 3rd string back. spiller will be our starter next yr and choice will be his change of pace back. fred will be traded for a 2nd rd pick. just my guess for whatever its worth.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

he doesnt spend $ on top FA’s

Neither do the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, or Packers.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I strongly doubt...

that a 30+ year old RB, (or pretty much any RB) will bring a second round pick. As much as I love Freddie, if that offer comes, you have to take it.

But, like I said, not going to happen

by The Wine Pimp on Dec 12, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

a second round pick

may not bring the talent we already know we have in Fred. he and CJ COULD be a great 1-2 punch type combination… if we ever tried to run. We should extend him 2 years, giving him a 3 year, 16 mil or so deal. if you disagree, cool. But, i personally feel that given the gross underpayment the last few years, coupled with what can be another couple of solid years of production, he would be worth this… to me.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I recall progress the first 7 games of this season

….where did that and all the team confidence get us?

GoBills.

by The Biscuit on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think we can't win out, but rec'd anyway

No way we’re beating all three of these teams, but I agree, losing out for draft position? Ask St. Louis how well that’s worked for them. We’ll have plenty of good choices if we pick between 9 and 20, and obviously we can’t draft any later than 20 if we’re eliminated…

What matters most is shaking this off and winning at least once more before the season ends. I guarantee Fitz will win twice as many games next year as Robert Griffin does. Or at least the Bills and his team, definitely. I think in the first round we should pick up either the best pass rusher in the draft regardless of where he’s projected, or Floyd from ND to balance Stevie, David and Brad. Whichever need isn’t filled out of those, fill in the second. Starting in the third, start looking for QBs we can groom, and unlike Levi last year groom him. (We seriously should never have released him, I think he’ll at least be a solid backup if he ever gets a shot.)

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on the Floyd pick . . .

. . . we got holes and depth issues everywhere but no where more apparent the our non existent pass rush. That said, thinking of our lack of big-play WR and recent drop-pass issues (not to mention I’m a ND fan), I’d LOVE to see Michael Floyd in a Bills uniform next year.

by RockyMTBillsFan on Dec 11, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It ain't happening

We are not going to win three games to finish 8-8.

by Coach Bob on Dec 11, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

WTH?!?!?!

If you were Fitz, would you buy into Hairiston? What about the d? when you look across your line would you Billieve in spencer johnson? how about if you were george wilson…would you Billieve in Flo and McKelvin? So I guess the entire defense just needs to buy into George Edwards too huh? It’s apparent those guys you listed will be here next season – except i think fred is trade bait as much as we would hate to admit it – but that doesn’t mean we don’t need exceptional talent. our team won’t lose out by choice. they just suck that bad. let’s call it like it is man. we have youngsters starting who should be our depth because our starters can’t stay healthy, and it’s the same guys. truthfully we NEED MORE TOP END TALENT, PERIOD! How many more drafts are we going to pass up our qb of the future? Fitz is decent, but a liability when it counts. and tyler? pathetic. we NEED one of the top QB’s coming out this yr to sit behind Fitz for a yr or 2 (depending on how fitz progresses). and if gailey doesn’t fire george edwards at immediately after the season then that will cost him his job too. forget what nix says about a 5yr plan or some crap. it’s 3 and out in this league. and at this point they havent done much better than jauron with better talent. next yr is without a doubt gailey’s make our break season. i honestly think he would make a much better OC than HC. he just doesnt seem to have what it takes to make the tough decisions to cut coaches loose who aren’t performing. those are the decisions that need to be made and if they arent, then it could cost gailey his job. how do you go the entire season allowing george edwards to remain your DC when your defense is not much better than last yr with a top 1st rd pick in dareus, but you have dave wannstedt (a proven and successful DC) sitting in the coaches box as your “Asst. HC/LB Coach?” That’s crap. In fact, it’s pretty backwards to me. George Edwards should have been the LB Coach and Wanny should have been the DC. Anyway, we have a TON of work left that needs to be done on this team before we even come remotely close to being a contender in our own division let alone in the nfl. our early success means nothing. the solid teams know how to finish strong. it’s never about how fast you start (unless you can maintain that pace throughout) but its about how you finish. that’s what separates the contenders from the pretenders.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hairston has played well up to this point. He had a bad game but so did Fitz.

And George WIlson doesn’t have to believe in McKelvin. They have Aaron Williams as the starter. McGee will likely be back, too.

And why do you say Gailey doesn’t have what it takes to make the tough decisions to cut coaches loose? Is there ay proof of that? Or do you mean because he didn’t get rid of George Edwards one year into a massive overhaul from the Tampa 2 to the 3-4? What is getting rid of him at this point going to do? Oh I get it…. the Bills should have demoted Edwards in your eyes the second they hired Dave Wannstedt.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

You start by slamming the talent, then say that this team has more talent than when Jauron was here? Which is it?

by The Wine Pimp on Dec 12, 2011 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Great point

I fully agree, poz. This team has some core talent but unfortunately it’s not enough. The difference between picks 8 and 13 might not be that big but the difference between going 5-11 and 8-8 will definitely weigh heavily on these guys minds.

I want the talented guys to enjoy being a Bill and improving each year – even if it’s just a little – will go a long way to how they perceive their time as a Bill and what they want to do in their future.

Plus I just like seeing this team win. Losing sucks.

by Zorak84 on Dec 12, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

These played well: Bryan Scott, Stevie Johnson, Justin Rogers, Marcell Dareus, Demetrius Bell.

These didn’t: The rest of the team

by Macktruck on Dec 11, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Stevie dropped two passes. He had one great catch and one great hook-up with Fitzy.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he had those drops, but he gained over 100 yards receiving. By compared to everyone else that was a spectacular effort, despite the two drops.

by Macktruck on Dec 11, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is worth adding: according to BB.com it appears that Stevie injured his hand during the game. That might have had something to do with the drops.

by Macktruck on Dec 11, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes,

However Fitz made two bad throws to him…His inaccuracy and inconsitancy is killing us.

How many slants he missed. Or throws being too high for the receiver….The throws in to tripple coverarge….

Please can we once and for all get a TOP QB!!!

by doctork44 on Dec 12, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Scott???

are you f******* me????

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Dec 11, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a good pair of series in the third quarter. Made a nice play on the TD and came back with a PD on the next series.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot...

we are the Bills, and screwing up the whole game, not covering an old, slow TE is ok, if we make ONE decent play….

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Dec 11, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott had one good play after the next. He was the only one on defense who played a really strong game today (although I agree that is saying much). Covering Antonio Gates is not easy.

by Macktruck on Dec 11, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

and why in the world did we not double his butt all freakin day? another wack gameplan by guess who?? none other than GEORGE EDWARDS!! Gates is one of if the best TE in the league right now. how do you NOT double him?!?! and he is def not slow man.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

oops

i meant to say “…one of if NOT the best TE’s in the game…”

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If you watched the broadcast, about the only thing the commentators were good about saying was how many weapons the Chargers offense has. If you double team Gates you are single covering their other very good WRs in Floyd and Jackson. That’s why.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:47 AM EST up reply actions  

still have to consider this approach

when Gates is torching single coverage. Letting them keep doing what is working, is less of a good idea than forcing them to try to do other things. At least I believe this. I would rather force longer throws, that our safeties can help with, than continue to accept that Gates is just going to walk them up and down the field because he is a mismatch. at some point, and adjustment HAS to be made.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Bell was in? serious question. did watch LT at all.

by dgrid on Dec 11, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

D. Bell saw action at the beginning of the fourth period till the end of the game.

Looked solid.

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by VanScottM on Dec 11, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe he went in during the second quarter and, yes, he looked solid, where Hairston looked simply awful today.

by Macktruck on Dec 11, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope we resign Bell. I think Hairston can play, but he’s showing some inconsistency and I don’t want another season of having one guy who we think can maybe play LT. Lets at least have two of those guys. :-)

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Dec 12, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

i take Hairston over Bell every time.

Each has similar level of experience, yet Hairston is bigger, with better reach, and is younger, and isn’t a converted TE, which i just don’t see the point of attempting. After the last two weeks of watching him… starting to think we should have picked up Gaither too. I wasn’t one who had called for him earlier in the season, but with our drastic lack of line depth, we need solutions, and he has done quite well for the Chargers. That is a fumble, IMO.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s time for Buddy Nix to come out and own this thing. We don’t need to pay Hangartner to be a backup, Levitre can slide over to center if the need arises. We don’t need Lee Evans, we have plenty of young receivers who can step in. We don’t need to address the pass rush, we have Shawne effin Merriman.

I mean, what the hell?

by Leo Crow on Dec 11, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Ok lee evans has done didly squat in bmore. Hangartner sucks people need to get over it. He could not hold up to the hugw dt in our division. Levitre to center and not urbik is on gailey. There was no pass rusher worth.the number 3 pick then after that the right picks where made. Despite the popular belief pass rushers do not grow on trees.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Dec 11, 2011 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Excuses

Just win.

If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) I'm a New Yorker loud and proud with little shame in my game! Wish I could say same for my favorite team!:(

by buffalobacker on Dec 11, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Never said they where excuses but people.complain about the same guys over and over with out any reason.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Dec 11, 2011 11:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

who gives a damn

about what ppl say about a player not being worth this pick or that pick? hell, if you “reach” to get him and he produces then you look like a genius, but i f you get someone you think is “worth” a high pick (spiller) and he doesnt produce then you look like a fool. we could have had one of our pass rushers in Brooks Reed in the 2nd rd instead of Williams. I like his potential but i just thought that when building a 3-4 your work from the front 7 out and it starts with your NT, then your LB’s THEN you work your back into the secondary?? Brooks Reed would have been a more valuable player for our defense than aaron williams. at least you have somebody to play behind merriman for depth in case merriman doesnt make it throught the season. that’s all on nix.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!!!!

That’s what I’m sayin man! Any other owner would fire Nix’ a$$ for the BS decisions he has made. I think Nix is just taking advantage of an owner who doesn’t have a clue as to what it takes to turn his franchise into a winner. Nix is living in the shadow of his San Diego years.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Barf.
That is all.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 11, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe this is what the white out towels were for. Clean up.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

hell yeah!!

can we start with Ralph? and finish with the FO? that’s what’s needed. a fresh start from top to bottom. i don’t want this team to resemble ANYTHING ralph has given us the past decade and some.

by youngchamp on Dec 11, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Time to sharpen the axes and pitchforls.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Dec 11, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

naaaaaaa.....why should the axes be any different than the play on the field

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Dec 11, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

When are they not sharp?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Dec 11, 2011 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If they weren’t sharp, the damage would be more extensive.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bills never do what they “need” to do. This team will lose out, mark my words, regardless of the fact that they “need” to win 1 of the last 3 for theirs and the fans sake.

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

by uscBillsGamecock on Dec 11, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't say they would win

Just said what i thought they needed to do. They don’t actually need to do anything. They can just go home and fold up the football team if they want. Probably won’t. Probably just lose out.

by FrankL on Dec 11, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What they full on NEED to do is play hard enough to be in every game for the rest of the year. I can accept 5-11 … almost … if they were inside a single score five out of the last six games. (Pats, I’m not sure that’s possible, but I can dream.) I really do hope they can turn it around and finish 7-9 tho.

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for being a voice of reason Frank. You are right.
Rec’d.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 11, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't agree here

It sounds like you want to coddle these guys…I think there is enough coddling going around the locker….I need somebody to get angry and step up and be accountable….All of this talk about their confidence is BS…

And quite honestly, a few picks can make a huge difference…Especially if it means we can finally get a guy that can get the ball down field and take our offense to another level…or get a bonafide pass rusher that completley take over games or allow us to rush the passer with out blitzing..

This is whole thing about worrying about the team psyche (spelling) is a joke…You know why? Because a lot of these players probably won’t be back next year, and it will be a different team then last year…

It’s disgusting how we all can watch a game and know whats wrong, yet we fail to admit it to ourselves. It’s disgusting that the coaches and GM can look at the same game we do and not notice or address the problem…It’s disgusting that you extend a QB who can’t complete a damn slant route throwing balls in to the ground…It’s disgusting how you extend a converted DE to OLB who can’t rush the passer or cover……It’s even more disgusting how you don’t extend your two of your top offensive players…

I’m firm believer in tough love, so that idea that we should be concern about the overall confidence of a 5-8 ball club is ridiculous…And if it takes losing out for us to make changes then I’m all for it….Maybe we can find a replacement for the QB who can’t complete slant patterns or the DE/OLB who doesn’t do anything well….and if not maybe we can find the replacement for the individuals who are making these bad decisions.

by doctork44 on Dec 12, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We need all those things

And a few slots of draft position isn’t going to help. Buffalo hasn’t proved they do anything super great with draft picks anyway. You need the guys that are there now, especially since so many of them are young, to step up and have something to believe in.

The team can’t replace all of them, and losing out seems like a sure fire way to get a bunch of these guys to quit.

Look if they lose out, then you make due with what happened. But you don’t want to be playing with a group of guys that decided at some point it was okay to stop winning.

by FrankL on Dec 12, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

we need talent.

fortunately, we won’t have to try to lose out. we’re just not good enough to win anymore this season. the fins will do the same as last time, tebow and the broncos will put up 30 on us, and the pats will make us pay dearly for that early season loss. where is the win coming from Frank? i know you’re trying to be optimistic and the voice of reason but our team franchise sucks. and THAT my friend, is the truth.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoa who said they WOULD win?

I didn’t say anything about the fact that they would win, or there was a win on the schedule for them to get. The likelihood is that they will lose out. My only point was that winning a game would be preferable to losing out because of what I outlined above.

I think if you have something to hang on to going into next year you have a bunch of guys who are exciting about playing AND you’re going to still add a few fairly good picks. They lose out, no idea what happens to half of these guys and or the coaching staff, and there is no way one guy is going to turn all that around, no matter how high he’s picked.

by FrankL on Dec 12, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Groundhog day comes early in Buffalo, every December for the 10 plus years.

by Long Beach Bills Fan on Dec 11, 2011 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

Very happy I only watched half of the first quarter.

You suck Bills.

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by dnvrBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Worst part of the game...

… was Fitz body language from the first snap. There must be something going on in the locker room we don’t know about, but Fitz looked lost and beaten up from the first snap. He looked lost, afraid to throw a pass, and when he did, it was like “screw it, I’m going to put the ball up, hope someone get it”.

Anyway, from last year, we kind of had a clue on where to start in the draft (the general call was for a QB or a D-lineman or an O-tackle). This year, I have no idea where to start!!! Even if they pulled a DJ and grabbed a CB in the first round, maybe I wouldn’t mind. Bad, really bad!

by amfasolo on Dec 11, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

I think WR or OLB would be the primary targets.

A WR like Jeffries or Floyd could make up for the errant passes.

An OLB will bring the pressure we are missing so desperately.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to make my point: would you be upset if one of the top OTs this year (Kalil, Reiff, Martin) falls and the Bills grab him? Or if a CB like Claiborne or Kirkpatrick (both at least 6ft 0) is available and the Bills go for it? Even if they pulled the trigger in a nasty G like DeCastro, I would be fine.

I agree that a pass-rusher should be a top priority, but it doesn’t look there is a Von Miller out there. By the way, I totally agree with your call on WRs: both tall guys with speed.

by amfasolo on Dec 11, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

On OT I think I’d be fine with that.
CB, it would depend on who is available but I’m not against the IDEA of getting a CB in the first. I agree with the pass-rusher sentiment, unless we’re around pick 13-18 there probably wont be one worthy. I think Upshaw would be worth that area.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Believe mat kalil of usc has said he is not declaring early.

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by matthew62 on Dec 11, 2011 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

defense all the way

Lately the offense has been pretty bad but we have so many injuries it is absurd. The problem is the defense giving up over 30 points a game and the fact that we cant get any pressure on QBs. Here is a stat, the bills have the least amount of sacks in the league (and have for the last few years) AND we got ten of the less than 20 we have this season in one game!!! We average less than a sack per game outside of the redskins beatdown. If we are going to talk draft then this should be the strategy, 1st pick pass rusher, 2nd pick another pass rusher or DB, 3rd pick another pass rusher or DB.

by Gesome77 on Dec 12, 2011 9:50 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

keep playing

do not accept defeat and lay down these last 3 games. show some fight for god sakes. these young players learning how to win and compete at the NFL level is 1000x more important than a few draft slots.
also, fitz’s play was absolutely atrocious today. he could not do anything right and did not even slightly resemble an NFL caliber quarterback.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Dec 11, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

I am not surprised they lost today, I have really lost confidence in the team since the Dolphins loss. The injuries hurt, no doubt, and there seems to be a lack of leadership on the team with Freddy gone. The things that bother me most is:

1) Fitz’s is not playing to the level of his contract and cannot inspire this team.

2) We can’t cover a tight end to save our lives

3) Gaily’s play calling is getting predictable

4) 3 and 1 is a real crap shoot with this team, and the O-Line has no push

5) The team has looked like it quit at times during the past month

6) Spiller stills tries to bounce his runs outside (FYI, you are now playing in the NFL son)

I understand that this is a work in progress, but it’s really hard to stay positive, especially since I still have season fix and drive 350 miles for home games. Well, enough bitching, time to suck it up and take it like a real Bills fan!

by Snkyfoul on Dec 11, 2011 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

you deserve to bitch. as do all of us. it sucks, this yr was supposed to be the year to be at .500 or above, to start getting a little respect in the league, to have positive momentum in our rebuild/build.

It sucks. and Nix has to do something. fire Edwards? then what, have Wanny DC rest of the games? then would he go to more of a 4-3, or stick w/ our version of a 3-4 as base?
Then in in the offseason he needs to find a way to get some CBs, passrushers, WRs, O-line depth, etc. And he needs to figure out what to do about Freddie and our RB situation.

by dgrid on Dec 11, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not surprised they lost. I’m surprised they continue to do so pathetically. No offensive points scored today.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No offensive touchdowns, but they got the one field goal. It’s still incredibly depressing.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Dec 12, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

1) disagree. Fitz has shown he CAN inspire the team. He just hasn’t because he is working with unfamiliar teammates in a number of positions.

2) agree.

3) Gailey’s play calling is only predictable, if you assume he will do the opposite of what you should. Run on 2nd and 2? pass on 3rd and 2? i mean…

4) we never run. we haven’t even attempted to improve in this area. we will continue to suck on 3rd and short, as we rather consider passing, than installing some true run formations, with down blocking instead of running from spread.

5) disagree… we need to DO something, in order to quit doing it.

6) disagree- Spiller should bounce plays outside when the blocking is ineffective inside.

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

disgrace

Next week is my season finale. This team is an absolute bore and I will not waste Christmas Eve or New Year’s Day thinking about this puke organization for 3 plus hours. This roster is a complete joke and lately, it feels like the coaching staff has lost the team to boot. From the front office down to the backup kicker, they are a pathetic group that deserves to be booed for 60 minutes at home the next two weeks. I hope the atmospohere is rated R. They deserve to know they are a disgrace.

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by Port Royal on Dec 11, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

Wish I could say the same – I have to watch on the 24th with my family of Broncos fans… The bow is going to run all over these fools.

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by dnvrBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Im sorry about that. Live in denver myself, and was lookin fwd to that game. not any more.

by dgrid on Dec 11, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You're welcome to my house!

Seriously though, this is my Super Bowl. If we can beat the Donkeys and show some life these last three, I will be pretty happy. We have to remember that this team only won four last year. Let’s see how it ends up and assess the seasons successes and failures then. Next year is huge for this team in terms of rebuild. But no matter what, we take down the Tebows!!

by buffaloparks on Dec 11, 2011 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

uhhh

not happenin’! the broncos defense is nothing to play with, and tebow is on a roll! oh, and let’s not forget that they do have the leagues’s #1 rushing offense. we have no more fight. our guys were fighting for jobs last yr. now, those same guys have jobs, one has the extension he needed, and others have enough game tape to get them jobs elsewhere with a possible raise (fred and stevie). winning the last 3 games will not make this team any better.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

AMEN!

BOO EM as soon as they step foot on the field. Boo em when they run out of the tunnel! just boo em period! they suck! i wouldnt cheer for crap! not even if they won. i would STILL boo their asses just for the hell of it!

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

next year.....again

i didnt think these bills would get far this year,but they arent even competetive. they suck . def coord. sucks. fitz seems to suck. thinkin about mailing my remaining season tickets back to obd

by srt9 on Dec 11, 2011 7:57 PM EST reply actions  

y the hell you keep buying it then…. you are spending thinking this is your team and ralph is laughing at you thinking how easy this is…

by statcruncher on Dec 11, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it too soon to call for CHIX's jobs?

Because if not, please blow it apart again! We have a GM who’s not a GM but a scout, and a HC who’s not a HC but an OC. Serious changes need to be made or very serious expectations need to be put on this regime. What we’ve seen for the most part over the past several weeks has been nothing short of pathetic. That is all.

by gfbillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:59 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

Is it too soon to call for CHIX’s jobs?

Yes.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it’s time to begin thinking how much longer they get after this collapse, because right now, i’m pretty darn sick of watching this freaking tire fire.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 11, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I outright give them til the first four games of next year.

If they’re not 3-1 then then I’ll at least lay off anyone calling for their heads, if they’re 1-3 I’ll probably be with those people, but until then, they’ve only had two drafts, and are only now figuring out how to use their top pick last year… okay, give them some crap for not knowing how to use the guy they picked. But still, everyone in this year’s draft save Jasper looks like a hit, either relative to their draft position or overall (Hairston. Who called this man as an effective left tackle prospect? Because of this I really do think we only need to draft for depth on the line next year, just so long as he’s a C/G by trade). We have winners at 1st, 3rd, and both 6th rounders from the 2010 draft, with Troup and Easley really only bugging me because of injuries. Let’s see them with a full real offseason with everyone and see what they can do.

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by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

what happens if we go 3-1 and then lose six strait – what then?

by Joeycarl on Dec 11, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's be clear here...

The amnesty I give them ends at the end of the fourth game of next season no matter how well they’re playing at that point. from 3-1 to 3-7, I’ll be calling for Chan’s head then too, mark my words. I’m giving them til then because that’s how long I think they need to show improvement.

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by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

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by twoeightnine on Dec 11, 2011 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

Courtney Upshaw - Alabama - the answer at OLB
Vinny Curry - Marshall - the other answer at OLB.

Both can be gotten, whether Vinny Curry falls to the 2nd or we trade up in the last 1/3 of the 1st Round. Snagging one or both will help our defense immensely.

by NordicBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I don’t think they’re going to get fired with three games left in the season. :-)

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

At the start of the season or before it I distinctly recall Nix admitting the biggest flaw about this team was depth. Strangely, Nix has been extremely candid and honest. Do I blame losses in depth? No. But I’m not giving up hope or denying disappointment. Something tells me we caught a glimpse of a future a little early in September. I have a new secondary coach on my wish list.

by Easy Ryder on Dec 11, 2011 10:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We have a GM who’s not a GM but a scout, and a HC who’s not a HC but an OC.

horrible isn’t it? only in this franchise will you see this mess. everybody is out of place and it’s b/c we have an owner he shouldnt be an owner. an organization is a direct reflection of it’s leadership.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

An Owner Who Shouldn't Be An Owner?

Uhmm…what? Got a few hundred million lying around that you want to make him an offer? And one he probably won’t accept? The owner can and will do what he wants.

You can ask for the head of the owner of the local Burger King, but guess what? They ain’t leaving until they start losing a lot of money. And Burger Kings don’t have revenue sharing, which basically will alleviate any serious revenue losses until the Ralph is 1/3 full every week. So get over it. Like Donald Sterling in the NBA, Ralph’s only obligation is to himself, to maximize his return on investment. Seems to be doing a pretty good job of that. You should be applauding him!

by T McGee on Dec 12, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Clap, Clap, Clap

Good job Ralph. Glad to hear your investments paying dividends!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

all I'm saying

Is that our “owner” doesn’t seem to be all too concerned about winning. At some point the man’s pride ought to kick in and say “even though I’m a millionaire can not go down as the biggest loser in nfl franchise history.” At least I would. I guess when you have that much $ who cares about winning huh? Please! Speak for yourself. I’m in it to win it AND make $ at the same time! Well, if I were in his position that is, lol

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 5:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We have a GM who’s not a GM but a scout, and a HC who’s not a HC but an OC. Serious changes need to be made or very serious expectations need to be put on this regime.

It’s terrible, really. I like what Chan can do with offenses on occasion, but he’s in over his head. I like NIx’s (apparent) honesty and candid nature. The problem is he’s likely using that method to cover for the fact that he, too, is over his head and saying things as he does will endear him to a larger part of the audience that pays attention.

That’s just how I feel and i’m ready for someone to rip my feelings on the issue apart. I do not trust Nix and I do not enjoy this team lately.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I remember hearing

an analyst, can’t remember who, who said when the Gailey hire was made why they didn’t make him OC instead of HC in an apparent indictment of the fact the Bills couldn’t land a head coach stating his belief that Gailey probably would’ve taken OC so why make him HC. It is hard not to think that Gailey as OC, lets say with total control, and a defensively minded head coach would make a better fit but now I guess it is too late for that and we may lose the positives of this current regime because their inabilities are overshadowing their strengths of which I still think there are some.

by Billsdownunder on Dec 12, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

last three games?

why show up? if any of our remaining starters get hurt we start screwing next season too!

by srt9 on Dec 11, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

atleast you will know who are the injury prone players… injury are not by accident always… some players are just more weak

by statcruncher on Dec 11, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Spiller blows.
Fitz blows.
The entire secondary blows.
All LB’s except Barnett blow.
Playcalling blows.
George Edwards blows.
And the special teams kinda blow, too.

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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Dec 11, 2011 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ladies and gentleman.....your BuffaBlow Bills :-)

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by Joe P. on Dec 11, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

this is a different tune than usual.

sounds a tad bi-polar bro. either we are playoff bound, or we are garbage? we are somewhere between.

Spiller is a work in progress. Let’s try and remember he has less than 10 starts, and still will when this season ends.

Fitz- well…. you know where i stand here. we can do much better.

Aaron Williams is solid. Rogers has 2 starts inside. I will agree that Leodis, and Flo are weak, but should Rogers be ok, and we draft one… they are fine inside players… who will basically be depth. George Wilson does not suck. Searcy, i feel, may have been the better play this week, if only for continuity from the last couple weeks.

Shepp was ok, other than being victimized by Gates, like every other player on the team.

Playcalling blows for sure. both sides of the ball.

George Edwards will not be here next year, unless Nix and Chan WANT out half way through next season, which i expect isn’t the case.

Special teams are the least of our concerns.

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Sorry. An all-defensive draft. Again.

Can Merriman’s absence have meant so much to this team? At least they occasionally approached the opposing quarterback with Merriman in the lineup. Pathetic.

by milwaukee on Dec 11, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

every QB in the NFL can pick apart a defense

should they never get pressured. Pass rush is necessary to keep even below average QBs in check. we suck at this. expect the draft to focus on defense, yes. i would love to see a great weapon added to this offense as well (which may just be a signal caller, given the number of guys who COULD be effective still ie Aiken, Roosevelt, Spiller, coupled with the rest of our ‘proven’ WRs)

Pathetic is right though. New DC please.

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe its the injuries but man… We won fewer games last year, but were competitive in those losses… We are getting routinely blown out now. What hope I had going into this year isn’t looking to good for next year at all… In a lot of ways it feels like we’ve taken a step back despite the better record.

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by Hayze on Dec 11, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

new idea!

the bills should send every reciever on slants every pass play!

by srt9 on Dec 11, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Potluck sundays

Those lucky neighbors of fits that get to go to his house after every Sunday must really have to bite their tongues in the recent month and a half.

I was all about fits but today he was awful. Way too many throws into coverage some of the time and on some others isn’t complete under/over throws. Return to fundamentals young man. As a basketball coach I tell my players to shoot 1000 shots every week pitied of practice to stay sharp. I know your receivers are bad and can’t get open but when they do you need to hit them. Go throw some balls like you did during the lockout. You were amazing coming off that.

Sorry, I was speaking directly to him there and I know he won’t ever know that I was but I really want him to succeed and its not looking like he will.

by UConnMRB on Dec 11, 2011 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

*stupid DROID……fitz not fits and outside of practice

by UConnMRB on Dec 11, 2011 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm think of writing a song...

The Wreck of the Ryan Fitzpatrick (sung to the tune of the Gordon Lightfoot "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald) Ever since he’s been paid he has sucked and not won a single game.

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by TatonkaDonk on Dec 11, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

Fitztragic :(

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by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 12, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ever since he’s been paid he has sucked and not won a single game.

Well make sure you leave that lyric out of your tune, because it’s not factually accurate.

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by Brian Galliford on Dec 12, 2011 6:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, good thing I've been hunkering down with my books for my finals this week, all 4 in the next 2 days

so missing this debacle looks good now in retrospect!

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by WABillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Well.....

at least that’s kind of a cool picture of Gailey…..at least someone on the Bills sideline had some fire and passion.

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by panekattack on Dec 11, 2011 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

ANOTHER MONDAY AT WORK

I was hoping to just save some face with a win today.But i should know better. Now i have to go to work and listen to all the scurvy,dirty jets fans. George Edwards must go, Chan can not be a offensive coordinator and head coach all wrapped up in one. Every time someone signs a big contract they fall apart. I want to say lets get it over and play for picks but what are we going to do with another running back? I really hope someone gets this team that will spend some money and turn things around.

by tankbulldog on Dec 11, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

why not

spiller still cant run through the tackle… he doesnt look like he will be too successful in nfl… i really think trent richardson would be excellent option for the bills… he is a complete back… we will have our 3 headed monster again with jackson, spiller and richardson… i hope nix runs and hands over his pick if he sees richardson still there…

(spoiler: sarcasm)

by statcruncher on Dec 11, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

RG3 needs to be the top pick of this team,

as i mentioned in my post it would IMMEDIATELY inject life into this franchise and fan base. After that we need 2 OLBs, CB and a WR, and depth all around.

But there were some positives to this game:
1. Our DL is very good. Carrington Williams Dareus next year will be great.
okay besides Bryan Scott’s TD thats it, but dont forget Aaron Williams did not play today.

With 1 more good CB we will have a good secondary. We need 2 OLBs. Our OL is good enough. Spiller and Jackson will be great next year. We need a true #2 receiver and resign Stevie. Chan needs to call running plays a lot more. But these are all things that can be addressed in 1 offseason. I know how bad we looked today, but I still dont think we are more than 2 years away from a playoff team. Hopefully this offseason will be a great one.

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by tomcs on Dec 11, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

but if we want to employ the “score more than the opponent to win” offensive mentality- better get a QB who can actually do that.

we are building inside out on defense, for sure. we need another boundary CB. we need a Safety or two, depending on Nesbitt (who should be starting so we can see what he is) and we can use a couple of pass rushing OLBS (at least 2) so we can find a way to get to the QB. with those things, we could have a very good Defense. Additionally, we could use a true #1/#2 WR to go with steve, who we can franchise for all i care. another season, and he could prove himself the guy we all want him to be. we shouldn’t forget he is a very productive player, especially for a 7th round pick.

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a DC who maximizes what we have

It seems we had a more effective defense under Perry Fewell. This current group looks completely owned evry game. Third and short are gimmes, We are disrespected enough for teams to go for it on 4th down and we look like a bunch of chumps. We need to use our players effectively, better players in a lousy system won’t be more effective. We need some new coaches, and if Dave W can’t help he can move beck to Obscurityville and take the rest of these clowns with him They wish they could achieve a Dick J 7 and 9 season.

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by TatonkaDonk on Dec 11, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

We are disrespected enough for teams to go for it on 4th down and we look like a bunch of chumps.

They only went for it on fourth down once and ran a fake punt. How is that on the defense?

by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Some what

But I’d counter we need some maxium players to coach, wouldn’t hurt!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 11, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

we should have never

done away with the 4-3. shoot, we should have never let fewell walk.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I was hoping Wade Phillips would have made a return to Buffalo. The man is a fabulous defensive coordinator.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I Agree With That!.

Think Wade has had his fill of BFLO, sadly. He would be a great addition – but only as a DC.

by T McGee on Dec 12, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Many of the players have quit on this season, and its inexcusable. we’re no the only team with injuries, and I am tired of the same excuses.

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by ChipShot on Dec 11, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The Texans are really hurting and they just won their first division title.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, But...

They’re better than us.

by T McGee on Dec 12, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

And, they have a lot more to play for. We were effectively eliminated from playoff contention last week. Telling the guys that if they win-out and everyone else loses out, we can DO IT, is not the same rallying cry as we can win our division and host a home game.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Dec 12, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

But but but!

Bills fans can talk themselves into everything with th Bills being in a bubble. Crap players at always amazing! Compared to crap.

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by twoeightnine on Dec 11, 2011 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds about right – I’ll rec

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- Buddy Nix

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by dnvrBillsfan on Dec 11, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think this year’s draft left everyone puzzling? I didn’t really question a single pick.

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by stetzwebs on Dec 13, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Courtney Upshaw

He should be available at 5, no matter what. Depending on how many underclassmen come out (of whom Luck is one), he may even be there at 10.

by MaoSayTongue on Dec 11, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

agreed

I am leaning more and more towards Upshaw even though he isn’t the Nix prototype size. I think he would really add something to this defense and should be there around 10-12 from my calculations/research.

by Billsdownunder on Dec 12, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is time.

To begin discussing how much time Gailey gets to turn this shipwreck around before we should pull the plug on him. Should he get another year? I’m starting to wonder if it would be better to cut our losses sooner than later.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 11, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Nix is going to get three years. Because of that, Chan will too.

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:51 AM EST up reply actions  

or at least 2.5

should we start 0-8 (probably not, but at this point- who knows?) then there could likely be some additional changes made… including CHIX. I personally agree with you though, Ralph anticipated a 3-5 year build, and hopefully there is enough progress next year to maintain some continuity. rebuilding every 3 years doesn’t work, as demonstrated the last 15.

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Gailey

But only as an OC. It seems like we are the place for coordinators to get their crack at a HC gig, but when they fail another picks them up and puts them where they belong, as a COORDINATOR. Why our FO can’t seem to figure this out is beyond me. Dang I wish we had someone like Cower coaching our team.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 5:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Please be able to get RGIII.

Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"
I got a TROPPer in the car, uhh!!

by bflo on Dec 11, 2011 9:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No Doubt

All I want for Christmas is for RG3 To be a Bill.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 11, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We need a player this team can really behind. And while Fitz may be a “good guy” this team needs a vocal leader. A winner. And talent. RG3 is all three.

I don’t know if Merriman was the main reason we were 4-1… But with him, we played inspired, someone to look up to… No one anymore.

I want hope, RG3 is that.

Fitz = M(C)²
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by bflo on Dec 11, 2011 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

With all due respect to MRW...
This is the Bills second losing streak of at least six games in the Buddy Nix-Chan Gailey era and major questions are starting to surface about the team moving forward.

I don’t have any questions, major or otherwise. This latest Bills regime is not the answer to ending the soon-to-be league’s longest playoff drought. When a team quits on its coaching staff two seasons running, then a change will occur. I say will because Ralph will not fire anyone until after the third year of losing, but the firings will come.

And yes, they had better draft a QB in the 1st round next year. Or a T.J. Yates in the 5th round will do just fine. Why the hell can’t this franchise find a quarterback?

Yes, I am disgusted. If anyone had told me on Halloween that this team would not play a single meaningful game in December, I would never have believed it. Not this year, I said. Funny.

Colin Brown...Pancreas Yellow...

by ChipShot on Dec 11, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

What do you expect with half the team on IR?

It’s like the media in Chan’s press conferences, asking him what’s gone wrong. What the heck do you think went wrong, when yet again we have several of our best players on IR? They’re a young team, so the depth is either young or just isn’t there yet. Sure, this season sucks the way it has turned out, but its also going to make us better in the long run. We’re finding out who can play, and who can’t, and our depth guys are getting valuable experience. If we have a good draft and stay healthy next season, we are going to compete!

by pioniere on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Can Chan really go...

0-8, 4-4 : 5-3, 0-8?

And will JP play, and play well this week?

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by bflo on Dec 11, 2011 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think JP will play...

And he’ll also have a chip on his shoulder, no doubt. Playing against the replacement to the guy they dumped him, the anointed QB Of The Future, for to be the next QB Of The Future? I think that could sting more than even just playing against Trent would.

We really are a curious bunch. Dropping a 1st round pick for a 3rd round pick on a snap judgment is one thing. We somehow waited too long to drop said 3rd round pick when he showed he was a broken and beaten man at this game, and we did so for a 7th round pick. Who… say what you want. He has his flaws. But still, 4-9 last year, 5-8 so far this year, and 4-4 the year he first replaced Trent… he is definitely better than Trent Edwards. He is far better than Brian Brohm. And I personally think he’s noticeably better than JP Losman. We do have the best QB we’ve had since Bledsoe, that’s for sure.

Now whether my mad faith in him isn’t entirely justified is another story and open to debate.

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

13-34 176 yards 2 ints today.

Just pathetic, Fitz is sucking crap

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by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 11, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he certainly has a lot to prove next week, I’ll give you that. But tell you the truth, who have we passed on who would be better? Oddly enough, Jimmy Gherkin kind of proved me extremely wrong last year, didn’t he? Colt McCoy might’ve been worth a look, though, same with Dalton. Not sure about anyone else that we had a shot at.

I do think we can win next week, but we need everyone to step up for it to happen. Especially on D.

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

His confidence is shot right now

He has no confidence at the moment, and is trying to do too much. Of course, when you’re playing behind a patchwork O-line and are missing the player who was arguably an MVP candidate before he got hurt (Jackson), plus only has 1 quality receiver to throw to, maybe its not surprising.

by pioniere on Dec 13, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Can Chan really go…0-8, 4-4 : 5-3, 0-8?

yup

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by ThaRealTruth on Dec 12, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Unwatchable!

From the beginning of the game. Here is what the opposition has done on their first three drives in the six losses.

SD – 2 TD’s, 1 FG
Tenn – 2 TD’s, 1 FG
NYJ – 2 punts, 1 TD
Mia – 3 TD’s
Dal – 3 TD’s
NYJ – Int, punt, 1 TD

18 drives result in 11 TD’s and 3 FG’s. That would be good red zone offense, but this is what the Bills give up at the start of the game! It’s so bad it can’t get much worse.

by Rick A on Dec 11, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Typo

Last NYJ should read Int, punt, 1 FG

by Rick A on Dec 11, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Need a change at D-Coordinator

We always seem to start off slow on D and then make adjustments to stop the bleeding. This does not work. We need a D-Coordinator who can game plan effectively so we have a chance to stop teams right out of the gate. I’m hoping they get rid of Edwards, who has failed to impress me since he arrived, and put Wannstadt in his place.

by pioniere on Dec 13, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

6 Weeks ago I was beginning to formulate an outline on how I was going to praise Gailey based on a deal I made with Brian...

Now it looks like I can put that on hold…Im not sure how I should feel about it either.

Should I be happy because Im right?

Or

Sad because its another year of looking forward to April….

Sigh.

The score dictated they pass

by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 11, 2011 9:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hmm

Chan starts strong, finishes weak. Can’t injuries to key players and lack of talent overall have any bearing in this or did Chan all of a sudden get alzhimiers?sp) And forget what he so clearly saw at first half of season. Give up on owner dang give up on players but cut the coaching staff a break here. This isn’t their fault, just the new guy’s!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 11, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Now you know why

Now you know why Gailey was not considered a top head coach prospect when the Bills hired him. I’ll give him 6 six games next year before my verdict is in. Just don’t know how he cannot rework some of the run formations since Spiller is a different kind of back. Then again, I have been shaking my head alot lately with this coaching staff, especially the defensive staff.

by Coach Bob on Dec 11, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense is truly horrific...real..real bad.....

They need help..and I hope they go big on D..and O line depth.

Buffalo Bills or Die.

by FergusVI on Dec 11, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If he doesn't do well after six games Ralph will fire him

He pulls the trigger on coaches during the season. That is a big part of the problem, Ralph won’t let a coach put together a team and program. Let him have all of next year, then we judge. No playoffs – cut Chan loose.

Defend the Herd

by TatonkaDonk on Dec 11, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ralph does react like some of the reactive fan base on occasion. It’s troubling.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Only Because

He knows it will give the fans the perception that he cares, that something New and Shiny™ is around the corner to inspire hope.

It’s really a tough spot to be a Bills fan, b/c the only way to really register on Ralph’s balance sheet is if people stop coming to/watching the games. But given RW’s advanced age, a precipitious drop in attendance would only give the impending next ownership group more reasons to move the team. So you’re left with a) a below-average, or at times awful, product on the field, or b) no team in BFLO.

That’s why I’ve focused my interest on the Sabres. They can be maddening, but at least they’ll make the playoffs and have an owner who seems to care. I still watch the Bills, but their problems only make me laugh, b/c I know what to expect.

But as for Chan, how can you let him go? He’s showing improvement! More wins in Year 2 than Year 1. Expect that trend to continue next season.

by T McGee on Dec 12, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Spiller was perfect for this spread/pistol garbage, yet it seems they’ve moved farther away from it with Fred out of the lineup. I don’t get what the heck is going on.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 12, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad.

My opinion though.

Hey, we want our team to at least look good, and at the very least we did just that during the 5-2 start, the second Jets game and the Titans game. The first Jets, Cowboys, and first Dolphins games made me feel physically ill, though, I cannot lie, and so did this last game.

If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.

by Orlando John on Dec 11, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This post reads like

a high school newspaper piece about the elementary. So and so participated.

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by twoeightnine on Dec 11, 2011 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

was at the game today. to me it was very obvious that the bills simply lack real leadership on and off the football field. but let’s focus on the football field. not one player on this roster right now, that is currently playing is a leader—not fitzpatrick, not nick barnett, not anyone. fitz plays with no emotion, no sense of energy, no fire. forget this guy. huge mistake to sign him to extension. he needs to be cut and bills need to save whatever money they can after cutting their losses. stop being so damn blind when evaluating these players.

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by chaucer on Dec 11, 2011 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Well

If their damn blind its obvious why they’re not able to evaluate players! Mystery solved! Their blind.

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

And

Your so right about lacking leadership on or off field. But I wouldn’t blame new HC/GM for 10 years of neglect. Owner plain and simple.

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Forgot

Forgot my sarcasm font and :). Hate when that happens:)

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone seems to bash merriman bc of his lack of production but that guy is a leader and brings energy to the team. I’m hoping (like nix) that he will be healthy next year.

by BuffaloFanFromCT on Dec 12, 2011 7:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Next year

If we start 1-0 they’ll probably give Leo a 9 year contract extension worth a cuatrillion dollars, Nix gets the keys to the city, and Edwards the keys to my house and cars, and maybe even if Ralph is feeling good he’ll give DJ signed for a couple of million to thank him built this team for that one victory.

This is a pathetic franchise we fans don’t deserve this.

by rick p on Dec 12, 2011 2:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Because any of that happened this year when they were off to their fast start?

by MattRichWarren on Dec 12, 2011 6:55 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what??

After giving myself time to cool off of another pathetic loss, I really think I know what our problem is. No confidence. We can blame it on injuries – which I think can be justified – but we lost our confidence after that first Jets loss. We came in that game expecting to win and we got whipped. However, I place that loss – which was the tipping point for our current derailing – solely upon the shoulders of Chan Gailey and his coaching staff. He knew or should have known how important winning that game would have meant to us and how it would have affected our young psyche. Going up against a divisional foe like the Jets who are our version of Goliath requires much better planning than what Gailey did. Throw in the fact that they had an extra week to prepare for us with the defense they already have. Gailey should have changed up his gameplan for that crucial matchup like the steelers did when they beat the pats and like gailey did against the Jets the second time around. I would bet that if we came out with the gameplan we had in game 2 in game 1 with all of our starters in place and healthy, we would have blown them out the water! Why? because we would have caught them off guard. They had 2wks to prepare for our spread, quick slant game and what did we give em? Exactly what they were expecting and had 2 wis to gameplan against. We came out I’ll prepared and flat. We had to take that heart breaking defeat into 3 straight road game challenge against tough teams who just now saw us break. We came into Dallas I’ll prepared once again, only we were hurt and never recovered mentally from the Jets loss and as we all saw we lost the game from the first snap. Do the players deserve some blame? Sure. But they don’t gameplan, they play the “hand they’re given” so to speak. Unfortunately, their coach did not put them in position to win that game. And after that game, he still didn’t prepare them for Dallas, nor the Fins. Gailey should have bounced back with a new gameplan against the fins to recorrect his wrongs, but he didn’t. We came out with the same crap and at that point it was over. Our team already fell apart mentally from the Jets/Cowboys loss. Now in Miami, we fell apart physically. Starters just started dropping like flies. So, you ask “has our team given up?” I would say a resounding “yes!” They haven’t lost faith in the man next to them, I think they’ve lost faith in Gailey to put them in position to win. I guarantee if you ask the veteran players in that locker room if they felt Gailey and his staff put them in position to win during our 1st Jets game and beyond, they would say no! The players knew how important that game was, too bad the coaches didn’t. Gailey has work to do fellas. Not just from a talent stand point. He has to win over his team again. And once you’ve lost the trust from your team it’s very hard to get it back. This offseason will answer a lot of questions.

by youngchamp on Dec 12, 2011 7:28 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Gailey hasn't been great, BUT....

He isn’t refusing to hit a receiver in stride on a slant, or toss a screen into a guys hands/chest instead of making him jump for it, OR consistently missing deep passes short, OR throwing 20 yards on 3rd and 4 when we need a sustained drive to give our D a rest, OR trying to tuck and run through LB’s and DL on 4th down, OR dropping balls right in his hands

Gailey SHOULD be ashamed for giving up on Spiller….the guy needs PT, PERIOD. What a joke.

by fanick82 on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If the playcalling is this critical for us, than I would argue Gailey has done a pretty good job, because he is apparently the only thing that matters — not the performance of the guys on the field, just the “Scheme” which suggests we are going to a gun fight with a knife and therefore better know some kung fu, because otherwise we are dead.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Dec 12, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Just Wondering

Is it conceivable that this team is being deliberately mismanaged so that when Ralph departs the scene the team can be sold to another city and no one in Buffalo will give a damn? Many
old timers like myself who have watched this poor excuse for a football organization are wondering.

by penance on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

I must have had to much eggnog!!!

Picking the Bills to beat Chargers~~WTF was I thinking. After so many years of futility it is almost impossible to have a positive outlook for this team.

It is horrendous watching the Bills play football, this team reminds me of the teams that went back to back 2-14 in “84 & 85”. I sick of hearing about how injuries decimated the team year after year while watching former Bills perform for other teams.

When i watch Fitz play I see a very capable backup QB but not a QB to build a team around, he just can’t make all the throws. He is what he is and unless he has a power house team around him he can’t carry a team on his shoulders……….

At this point of the season I just have no inclination to want to watch them play, hell they seem like they are incapable of being competitive.

.

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by Goose22 on Dec 12, 2011 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

I vote for a better draft position

Obviously, the Bills are going to play to the best of their abilities in the remaining games. With no shot at the playoffs remaining, I would prefer to see them lose out and improve their position in the draft. There will be some great QBs available — Luck, RGIII, and Barkley — and the difference between being able to draft one could be a matter of one or two spots. They might all be gone within the test ten picks, and I strongly believe that we need one of these guys. I will continue to say that we need somebody better than Fitz if we ever want to be a serious contender. Even on his best days, he’s not spectacular. When guys like Brady, or Manning, or Rodgers are on, they could hit a jackrabbit from 50 yards away. Fitz couldn’t hit a wide open receiver from 50 yards away if he had a 10 yard radius in which to drop the ball. On the other hand, Fitz only seems comfortable throwing a pass 50 yards downfield when the receiver is triple covered and the pass is almost guaranteed to get intercepted. For a Harvard quarterback who is supposed to be so darn smart, he seems to make consistently bad decisions on where to throw the ball.

With Luck already being compared to Elway, this draft could the new “year of the quarterback” the way that 1983 produced Elway, Kelly, and Marino. We really need to grab one of these guys if they are still available. If they’re gone, we’ll probably be looking for a pass rushing OLB and stud WR in the first two rounds. CB is a strong need as well, but good corners are usually available in the third and fourth rounds. (McGee was a 4th four pick.) Elite pass rushers and Megatrons are long gone by then.

Oh, and George Edwards had better get canned the day after the Bills lose to the Patriots. Perry Fewell could grab 11 guys from a bus station and put together a more competent defense than this. Edwards has no clue how to use the guys he has.

by SiriusRed on Dec 12, 2011 9:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Who Wants to Be a Buffalo Bill?

For those of you who are calling for the heads of Chix or for Ralph to spend money on big time free agents, I ask you to keep in mind that:

1— this franchise has the longest playoff drought in the league
2 — they are not showing signs of turning it around
3 — there must be some kind of “curse” with the season-ending injuries
4 — it’s cold and snowy

What great coach or big-time free-agent would want to come here?

I love my Bills and will always follow them and have hope, but I am also realistic. Until things get turned around, we are not going to lure greatness to Buffalo. We will have to stick with this Front Office for a while longer and build through the draft — those draftees have little/no choice about where they play.

by IthacaBillsFan on Dec 12, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Ralph

Kinda gets what he pays for!

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by buffalobacker on Dec 12, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone written an extension for Firefox, Chrome, or Safari that blocks comments on Buffalo Rumblings yet? I know I don’t want to read comments on threads like this because the vitriol pisses me off, yet I always manage to do it…

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by crooked5 on Dec 12, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Yep, I just installed it. It puts a little ‘x’ in the top corner of the box. All you have to do is click it and the comments go away…

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by stetzwebs on Dec 13, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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