February Jaeger Shots
Jaeger Shots:
- I totally get the fascination with Colin Kaepernick and Cam Newton. They are the 2011 Draft's versions of Tim Tebow: both are run-first, athletic quarterbacks that won a great deal at the college level. And like Tebow, both need 2-3 years on the bench developing. You may disagree with that statement, but look at other run-first college quarterbacks, and how they transitioned to the pro game. Despite Denver's Tebow-mania, he was pretty average as pro quarterback for three games. Vince Young has won a lot, but that's been more a function of Chris Johnson and a good defense. Young was rushed into action, and still isn't a NFL quarterback that reads the field well. Michael Vick only this past year became a complete quarterback. It took years behind Joe Montana for Steve Young to transition. If you want Kaepernick or Newton, you're also OK with 2-3 more years with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm.
- While we're on developing quarterbacks, if I'm taking a needs-a-lot of-development college quarterback like Tebow, Kaepernick or Newton, he needs to bring more than just athleticism. I was all on-board the Tebow train last year. Tebow has some of the best leadership and mental toughness intangibles that I've ever seen. He wills teams to wins. I haven't seen that from either Kaepernick or Newton. Tebow also won three year's worth of games in the toughest conference in college football. Newton did it for a year. Kaepernick plays in a weak sister conference. Not that either can't play, but both need to impress during chalk talks and background checks. Like really impress. Being the second coming of Randall Cunningham does nothing for me if you can't read a defense.
- I totally don't get the fascination with drafting an inside linebacker at 34th overall. Martez Wilson is a nice player, but picking an inside linebacker? The Bills play a variation of the Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4. The inside linebackers don't need to be great athletes. They do need to be instinctive, shred blocks well, and tackle well. Those kinds of guys can be found in rounds four through seven. Unless Patrick Willis is available, a 3-4 inside linebacker in the first three rounds seems like a mismatch of requirement and value. Buddy Nix seems to agree. In his 8 years with the Chargers, most of the time serving as assistant GM, they drafted an inside linebacker high twice in eight drafts. Both were third rounders.
- I'm really warming to the idea of a Von Miller - quarterback first-second round combo. I still like Blaine Gabbert at 3rd overall. But I'd be happy with the former scenario. Contrary to the inside linebacker positions, a 3-4 team can never have enough edge rushers. I'm going after Matthias Kiwanuka to play left outside linebacker if I'm in charge, and still maybe drafting Miller. That does create a log-jam at outside linebacker with Shawne Merriman, Kiwanuka, Miller, Arthur Moats, and Chris Kelsay. That's OK. The Giants treat their defensive ends the same way. They regularly field 3-to-4 ends on passing downs, each that can beat their blocker one-on-one and get to the quarterback. It's interesting to note that the Giants are also one of the few teams that Tom Brady doesn't play great against, mostly because they disrupt his rhythm with a four-man rush. Buffalo needs to emulate that.
- Speaking of second round quarterback, sign me up for Christian Ponder or Jake Locker, if he falls that far. Ponder looks like a Drew Brees / Aaron Rodgers type of quarterback that can throw darts all day. Ponder meets many of the quarterback metrics that grade completion percentage, time in college, etc. If he can show off a stronger than anticipated arm at his pro day, sign me up. Locker's taken a tumble, but at 34, he'd be too good to pass up. He's an athlete along the lines of Kaepernick and Newton and needs development time, but he's spent two years making pro reads and working his mechanics, so he's ahead of them time-wise. He's also got Tebow-esque intangibles. He'd be the perfect guy for Gailey to coach up, because he has the best set of tools out there, including a hyper-fast release and a very strong arm. I think his accuracy is a waste-down issue that can be fixed.
- That all said, I'm still mostly on-baord with Gabbert at 3. Run and stop the run isn't the means for success anymore. Having a franchise quarterback, and having a pass rush that can get to the other team's quarterback is the new means to success. It's been that way for a few years now, and the Super Bowl was the exclaimation point to the shift.
- But...... I'm super intrigued with a shift that I see from Bill Belichick. The Pats drafted two tight ends, traded Randy Moss, and ran more than in the past, and I wonder if he's onto seomthing. With so many teams running spread formations, and designing defenses to stop opposing spreads, I wonder what a good ol'fashioned smash mouth offense would do? The Jets and Steelers have had success when they've committed heavily to the run. Sometimes going counter-trend means being first or nearly first, and that can mean success. Buffalo was early to the renewed 46 defense trend, and fielded great defenses under Jerry Gray. Buffalo stayed 3-4 when the entire league abandoned the defense, and were subsequently hard to play against. Buffalo was five years late to the Tampa 2 party, and it showed. Maybe going counter-trend has some merits.
- Finally, this may not be popular, but I think the Pittsburgh Super Bowl loss and Dick LeBeau's refusal to shift his defense around in the Super Bowl played a huge part in their loss. That's treason in Steeler country, but hear me out. Pittsburgh's defensive strength lie in Troy Polamalu's ability to move around, their four great linebackers, and Casey Hampton eating up blocks. Pittsburgh's defensive design in the Super Bowl had Hampton out of the game on passing downs, and Polamalu 15 yards off the line of scrimmage most of the game. And they continually tried to cover Green Bay slot receivers with linebackers. Really? Why not play a 1-4-6, with Hampton as the lone down lineman, and 3 corners and 3 safeties? That would allow Polamalu to roam, and allow for more blitzing with Hampton taking up blocks. It wouldn't work all the time, but as a variation, it would have at least played to strengths of the personnel. A plan that has Polamalu or an inside linebacker covering Greg Jennings in the slot is foolish, or stubborn. I take the latter.
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At 34 he would be hard to pass up. With his accuracy issues he shouldn’t go in the first round.
Gabbert at 3 I don’t see at all. I don’t know when he became the hot name, but when i saw Mizzou play he was good, but I didn’t see him as top 10 good, let alone top 3. He needs to show a lot in the next couple months.
I’d rather see Locker picked in the second round than Gabbert at 3. The only reason Gabbert is mentioned that high is because Newton has been chillin out until the combine…. Newton might be boom or bust, bust he simply has more tools in his shed than any of the other QB’s in this draft.
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by syrbillsfan on Feb 11, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
TOP 3-4 ILB and WHERE THEY WERE SELECTED
Ray Lewis (Ravens) – 1-26
Lawrence Timmons (Steelers) – 1-15
Patrick Willis (49ers) – 1-11
James Farrior (Steelers) – 1-8
Jerod Mayo (Patrots) – 1-10
David Harris (Jets) – 2-47
Derrick Johnson (Chiefs) – 1-15
Karlos Dansby (Dolphins) – 2-33
by Pablo Escobar on Feb 10, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Your using guys that weren’t drafted to be 3-4 inside linebackers, and mostly exceptional talents, to argue against my point. My comment about Patrick Willis essentially said to only pick a 3-4 inside linebacker if you have an exceptional talent. Martez Wilson is not an exceptional talent at this point.
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Lewis, Johnson, Timmons and Dansby weren’t drafted as 3-4 ILB’s either. It’s just where they ended up.
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still
that is where the best ones come from
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by killascript on Feb 10, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
awesome
completely agree… i have been thinking the same thing… the best ILBs are drafted way high… look at rolando mcclain last year… he has a good future… i have no problem with going for an ILB in the 1st or 2nd round…
jaeger says ILBs dont need to be great athletes in this 3-4… but that is NOT how you build a team… you take the best talent… imagine if those ILBs WERE great athletes… that just takes the capability of the defense to another level.
by statcruncher on Feb 11, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
You're missing the point
Why take a great athlete like McClain only to have him take on guards all day so Posluszny can make the tackle?
Either take McClain and cut Posluszny, or go with another player.
Same with the Sheppard and Wilson ideas at 34. If you take Wilson, let Posluszny walk. Then go get a Matt Wilhelm-type to take on guards, and let Wilson make the tackles.
Your view on this isn’t taking scheme into account at all.
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but
all you are considering is ILBs taking on guards… but they have to do a lot more than that…
if you have 2 athletic ILBs who can cover a wide range, then there goes our TE coverage issue… you dont see guards there…
if we keep taking ILBs in the 4-5th round teams will put 2 TEs and beat the crap out of us…
we already know poz is a WILL ILB… he can take on guards… we definitely need a strong and athletic ILB who can take on guards and be fast enough to cover TEs and assist on RB outside runs… hence the 2nd round ILB
by statcruncher on Feb 11, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I’m considering the Mike linebacker taking on guards, because that’s what they do. Most, if not all, Mike linebackers in a 3-4 can’t both take on guards and cover. That’s why they come out on passing downs.
If you can find a Mike that can do both, great. They are normally named Urlacher or Lewis. The Achilles heal of a 3-4 is 2 tight end sets opposing it. The only way around it is to have elite outside linebackers that can press the edges, and force the QB into faster decisions.
Trying to find the next Urlacher is much harder than simply drafting Von Miller.
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agreed
but you dont pass on urlacher when you get the chance… i am not saying there is an urlacher this year… but next year there are 2 ILBs supposed to go in the top 15 according to walter football…
i think if we have the opportunity, we should pick one of them
by statcruncher on Feb 11, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Right
But we’re talking about taking an ILB at 34, not next year.
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DJ, in your opinion, would you have a problem with prospect being already 26 or 27 like Danny Watkins?
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Not really
Especially if he could be had in round 3.
Higher than that and I might pause.
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I agree except for ur point about stopping the run. The jets had one play destroy the bills in the second game of the season. All he did was wait for the Dbs to drop back then he’d take off. I forget his name but it was just embarrassing how much the jets took advantage of the bills weakness. A new qb will not fix that. Fitx played very well and still the drawback of the bills is their inability to stop the run
A good QB puts points on the board and takes opponents out of their run game to keep up
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Nice job DJ
If you want Kaepernick orNewtonMallett, you’re also OK with 2-3 more years with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm.
Gabbert is going to sit a year even if he is the pick at #3, and I don’t think you draft someone in the 2nd round to sit for 3 years….unless it is behind someone like Farve. Fitz is not Farve. So, I would expect 2 years is the max Kaep would sit. I really don’t care if it takes one more year as long as CHIX get our franchise QB. Besides, it is going to take that long for the Bills to be competitive in the playoffs anyway.
Tebow has some of the best leadership and mental toughness intangibles that I’ve ever seen.
As far as intangibles go, I am not sure we will see the likes of Tebow ever again. Kaep does seem to be very mature, high character young man. I would love to see the Bills take him in the second as long as everything else checks out.
I totally don’t get the fascination with drafting an inside linebacker at 34th overall.
I do. I’m not saying we must take an ILB at #34, but I can see the logic in it. It makes sense from a BPA stand point. We would most likely have our pick of the best ILB in the draft. The Bills need to stop teams from running it up the gut. Given the certainty that Williams will be playing a large majority of the snaps at DT, having a thumper playing behind him seems like a very good idea. I agree we could find someone to develop later in the draft, but a guy like Wilson for Sheppard would have an immediate impact. That said, I would like to see the Bills take an RT in the second or third.
sign me up for Christian Ponder or Jake Locker
Locker…OK, Ponder…meh. Ponder looks like a prototypical west coast timing QB to me. I am not sure he actually reads a defense very well. Most of his reads look like the pre-snap variety. I really hate his ball when he throws deep or with velocity. He does not throw with good velocity and his spiral is very loose most of the time. I think he will struggle throwing at RWS in the wind and elements.
I agree with all your other points. Good read :-)
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Yes, Kaepernick would be ready to play in two years, not three. And his intangibles are off the charts, exactly like Tebow’s. I watched the way he willed his team to victory against #2-ranked Boise State. It’s a weak sister conference, but Boise was one of the top teams in the country and the fourth quarter comeback victory he led was truly Tebow-like. And while the system he played in at Nevada did not ask him to make make reads, he is extremely smart and a true perfectionist who will almost certainly be able to master the mental part of the game.
I couldn’t agree more that he is not NFL-ready, but his potential down the road could be much higher than any other QB available this year with the possible exception of Newton (assuming Newton can learn how to read defenses, which is a much greater question than with Kaepernick).
True, but DJ's point about Tebow's success in the SEC is valid
Doesn’t mean Kaep can’t do it, just means Tebow has the edge in that category. I do think that in the long run, Kaep might end up being the best QB in this year’s draft.
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My guy tells me Ponder’s going to end up being the best. Especially if he ends up in San Francisco.
Not that high on Kaepernick. He’s good, but I don’t see him guiding a team like Rodgers, Brady, Manning, or Brees.
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Where to you see his game lacking?
Clearly he takes off and runs way to early, but so does Locker. In what way is Locker a better prospect?
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Kaepernick has almost no experience reading a defense and going through progressions, where Locker has two years of experience doing it. Nevada’s offense has a bunch of predicated reads and half-field easy reads.
Eg: Kaepernick already knows where he’s supposed to throw the football before the ball is snapped, and if that receiver is covered, his option is to run.
A half-field read is where the QB ignores one side of the field entirely, and reads one defensive player. Where he moves to dictates where the ball goes. Eg: the QB reads the OLB while the TE runs a curl and the RB runs a swing. If the LB drops back, hit the RB. If the LB runs to the flat, hit the TE.
Easy stuff.
Locker has two years of dropping back, working through pro style progressions, including pre-snap and one-second reads, and making plays. It’s part of why he looked so crappy. Essentially, his two years under Sarkisian can be counted as essential part of his rookie year. It’s hard, he was never schooled in it prior, and he looked hot-and-cold, just like an NFL rookie. But, he’s two years ahead of everyone else. He just needs some work waste-down. It think that’s why he’s so inconsistent with accuracy.
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RE: Locker
I am not sure Locker really got those two years. In practice maybe, and I am not saying that doesn’t have value, but he spent most of this year running for his life. How much time did he really have to go through his progressions? Then there is Locker’s poor performance at the Senior Bowl. Locker and Kaep played in the same game behind the same line and Kaep looked much more comfortable in the pocket and played better in general. You know I really wanted to like Locker…..I was looking for any reason to believe he was the victim of circumstance. I’m just not sure that Locker is who we hoped he was.
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When I see Locker vs. USC and Oregon State, I see a franchise QB. I think his confidence went down as he got beat up though.
I’d love to see him with a year of coaching by Gailey.
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agreed...and I don't blame him. Tough spot to be in as a QB
Again, I would have loved to see him show something at the Senior Bowl. What are the odds he got ruined like what happened to Edwards?
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I hope not
The rush mentality for QB’s these days is ruining a lot of them.
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That’s my concern about Locker — that his confidence has been pretty badly battered. If that happens it can completely ruin an otherwise talented QB. He also continues to have big problems with accuracy when throwing from the pocket, and at this point I’m not sure that is likely to get cured. As for Ponder I would be much more enthusiastic about him if he Bills were running a West Coast scheme. To my eye he’s essentially a younger version of Fitz.
I agree with both of those ideas
I do like the idea of Miller at 3, but because of what you mentioned, I’d rather go with a far more complete player in Gabbert.
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Kaepernick's intangibles are not Tebow's
Tebow, by numerous accounts, had 1st overall pick intangibles. Kaepernick does not. They are good, maybe great. Teobw has once-in-a-lifetime leadership skills. Tebow willed teams to win numerous times over the three seasons he was a starter, including on the biggest stages.
Not taking anything away from Kaepernick, whom I like. But willing his team over Boise State, a game that Boise should have won if not for a missed field goal, does not compare.
And I do not agree with the two year over three. By all accounts, Tebow is a three year project. As quarterbacking goes, Kaepernick is not better than Tebow in any regard other than arm strength. If it’s going to take Tebow three years, Kaepernick won’t be faster.
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agree
Tebow’s Passion on the offense reminds me of ray Lewis on the defense. His determination and will to succeed causes others around him to be better. It’s contagious.
That being said he has got to perform on the field.
by BuffaloFanFromCT on Feb 10, 2011 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
I’m not as high on Kaepernick as most folks. I’ll take Locker or Ponder over him in the 2nd. If I’m taking on a project, I’ll take Gabbert or Locker. More potential to be a pocket passer that can scamble. I’m just not as high on Kaepernick as most.
The ILB that Buffalo needs is a 6-3/250 plugger, like Alex Wujciak. Are Sheppard and Wilson really that much better than Wujciak at taking on blocks and shedding them? To warrant picking an ILB at 34 when Wujciak (or someone like him) can be had in the 4th round? It’s not good bang-for-the-buck. Why spend a 2nd rounder on a guy that you just want to stack as a Mike linebacker? Especially when the league is filled with effective 3-4 Mike linebackers that were taken laters. Bart Scott was undrafted. Desmond Bishop was a 6th rounder.
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I don't know
Are Sheppard and Wilson really that much better than Wujciak at taking on blocks and shedding them?
But if there wasn’t that big a difference, wouldn’t Wujciak be a late 1st to early 2nd round pick as well? Like I said, I am not locked into a ILB in the second, but it wouldn’t cause me to jump into the deep end.
I just want a franchise QB…don’t care what round we end up taking him in as long as he is leading us deep into the playoffs by 2013 :-)
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and I don't get the Ponder love
Why are people so high on this guy? Small ball QB…decent intangibles….history of injury…..not feeling it.
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We have to wait until his pro day
If he makes pro throws with ease, then it was just the system he played in. If he can’t make the throws, then the system adjusted to him.
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I don’t really recall where it was that I saw it, but one analyst said he thought Ponder had a terrible throwing motion and that was causing injury to him. He also said that trend was unlikely to change. Do you have a take on that?
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by WhyBillsWhy on Feb 11, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't see anything wrong with his motion
I just haven’t seen Ponder drill a football with velocity, ever.
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I read that too
I don’t recall who, wasn’t it was one of the mock guys repeating a converstion with a scouts assesment of Ponder?
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Entirely on board with you for QB's.
I like the concept of a running QB, but the reality of it is that they take a LONG time to develop and their chances of actual sucess are increadibly limited. Personally I’d take Ponder in the second long before I’d even consider taking Newton in the first. As for Gabbert? I’m not nearly as sold on Gabbert as you are though, and would much rather we take Peterson or Green with the 3rd overall pick.
The rest you said is pretty much bang on, and I’m very happy to be taking you Jaeger shot once again! Always a great read!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 10, 2011 8:59 PM EST reply actions
ILB redo on explaination
Buffalo’s 3-4 required two entirely different types of inside linebackers. The “Will” plays on the weakside, and it generally a scheme intent to keep him unblocked as to flow to the play and make tackles. Most of the guys on Pablo Escobar’s list are Will linebackers. I have no issue with taking a Will at 34.
However, Buffalo has shown intent to resign Posluszny, so Buffalo may not need to. What Buffalo needs is a “Mike” inside linebacker. The Mike plays on the strongside, and due to the present of the tight end creating an extra gap assignment, the Mike may have gap assignment, and generally is required to taking on blocks, shed them, and at a mimimum, clog gaps. Of the guys on Pablo Escobar’s list, only Timmons was drafted as a Mike, and that’s in Pittsburgh’s unconventional blitz-happy scheme. Ray Lewis ended up there, but he’s a once a generation talent. All the other guys on that list play the Will spot.
So, if Buffalo drafts Sheppard or Wilson at 34, they’re going to be manning a position that requires taking on guards, clogging gaps, etc. That’s not value for the requirement, since a guy like Alex Wujciak can to the same thing, and can be taking way later in the draft.
Most good Mike’s in a 3-4 are guys like Bart Scott and Desmond Bishop, drafted late and played their way into the line-up.
So, if Buffalo can’t re-sign Posluszny, I’m all for drafting Sheppard or Wilson to play the Will. If Posluszny is resigned, the value and requirement don’t match.
Hope that clears my opinion up.
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so are you saying
that Sheppard and Wilson are not "Mike"’s ? And if they are, then why are they projected to go so high?
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They could be, but it would waste what they do well
Sheppard looks like Tarzan but isn’t that physical. He doesn’t shed blocks that well at the point of attack. He’s more of a flow to the ball guy, which is what a Will is.
Wilson could do it, but he’s somewhat similar to Rolando McClain in that he could play Mike, but he’s so good flowing fast to the football, why would you put him there to get beat down taking on guards all day?
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OK....got it
so essentially, you think those guys have “mike” size but “Will” speed and instincts. Kind of like why people think Bowers is a waste as a 3-4 DE.
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So would Sheppard or Wilson
be a better “Will” than Poz? To bad the Bills can’t negotiate with Poz . Freaking CBA!
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Maybe
I think Posluszny is more instinctive, and would make more plays if he was clean more often. Wilson is a far superior athlete. So is Sheppard, but he doesn’t play to his measurables.
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what about G. Jones?
I dont understand why some mocks have him going to us when he does not seem to have the size to be a mike ILB. Like you have said with Wilson, and Sheppard he seems to be in the same mold IMO. I agree with what you are saying about the value not being there at #34. but I think there is a good chance Sheppard will fall to our #68. What do you think about that value?
I dont know much about V. Gholston beyond the fact that most are calling him a bust, and he cant seem to cover, or get a sack at OLB. I have read that he is good in run support. I was wondering if at 6’3’’ and 264lb could he be converted to a Mike ILB? Looks like the Jets will be letting him go soon. Just a thought could someone please comment as to wether this is a possibility or not, and why.
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Sheppard at 68 is OK only if you think he can grow into a more physical player.
Gholston lacks football instincts, and I don’t think transitioning him anywhere is going to work that well.
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Got ya!
Love your post. Great job as usual !!
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 10, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions
DJ
How would you feel about a guy like Stephen Paea if he fell to the 2nd based on his knee injury. I have a feeling Peterson goes #2 to Denver, they don’t seem too into Da’Quan Bowers. If Peterson’s gone, I have a gut feeling the Bills go either Newton or Green. I like Marcel Dareus but think there is plenty of D-line depth in the draft. Whether my first round projections are correct or not doesn’t matter. The point is, would the Bills go for a big DT like Paea even though we have Troup?
by BMWdrummerman777 on Feb 11, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions
Paea isn't ideal but good value in the second
Even with the knee. Though I’m not sure if he’s a guy that can play 5 technique or nose.
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and rec’d, I look forrward to reading your posts. Always the first one I click on when i come here. Great work as always, happy your on our side :)
by BMWdrummerman777 on Feb 11, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions
For smash mouth anti spread football, please look at the following college programs and their success due too it
Wisconsin and Stanford this past year, both ran almost basic pro-style football teams with big running backs as the man focus of their attack against their competitors all of whom operated heavily in spread formations, meaning they also draft players to stop the spread on D, which allowed both teams to just beat up the other guy. Going big when everyone goes small and light (O against D) works very well if done correctly, and your right about Bill B in NE, he saw the trend and got ahead of it.
I like your other thoughts, and I think Locker at 34 with Von Miller at 3 would be an awesome pairing, heck, Ponder at 34 works real well for me too as long as we get someone like Miller or Petersen at #3.
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Exactly
Stanford is way less talented, position by position, then most of the teams they played. They just lined up and pounded people. Only Oregon survived it.
So if an NFL emulated, I think they could field an ultra-talented defense, and an offense that smashes small defenses with power.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
I don’t think Stanford is way less talented than others. If they weren’t good enough athletically they wouldn’t win in the Pac 10. They have talent it’s just not the highly recruited talent. Harbaugh got two and three star kids and coached them into four and five star players. And Luck is as good as it gets too. That helps.
I think that Harbaugh recruited the best available to him (i.e. he recruited players whose style was outside the norm for the Pac-10). So, he got some of the best non-spread players available to him and schemed accordingly. I think that was his point.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Feb 12, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
If you take Andrwe Luck off that team, they’re a .500 team, in my opinion.
The best player on offense after Luck is……
The best player on defense is Thomas Keiser, who’s a day 3 prospect.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.
Kudos for Der Jaeger, as usual.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 11, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions
I get excited when I see you posted
always a learning experience. Thanks
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Question about OLB that wasn't addressed (specifically Robert Quinn)
Are the Jack and Sam OLBs both responsible for coverage responsibilities? If so, what’s the skinny on Quinn’s ability to cover (has he done it consistently in college)? If the first question is a Yes and the second Unknown, why is Quinn being talked about as a top OLB candidate?
1) AJ Green [WR - Georgia] 2) Cameron Heyward [DE - Ohio St.] 3) Colin Kaepernick [QB - Nevada] 4) Casey Matthews [ILB - Oregon] 5) Owen Marecic [FB - Stanford]






























