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Baker's Dozen Bills Scheme Fit: Marcell Dareus

The Buffalo Bills transitioned to a 3-4 defense in 2010. The lack of personnel to fit the scheme forced Chan Gailey and defensive coordinator George Edwards to play more 4-3 defense as the year wore on. While Buddy Nix will continue to draft personnel for the 3-4 defense, Gailey said that the team will run a multiple front defense. The hiring of Dave Wannstedt, historically a 4-3 coach, reinforces the point. I expect Buffalo to run three to four variations of their defense. Here's how Alabama junior Marcell Dareus would fit in.

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Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4

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This is the base 3-4 defense employed by members of the Bill Parcells coaching tree. This defense is very stout when the three defensive linemen are capable of playing two-gap assignments, but is vulnerable to two-tight end offenses.

3-4 Over (also known as the 4-3 Over)

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This defense is effective at penetrating and disrupting the offense, but can be run against effectively by teams that can rush with power.

46 Defense

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This is a difficult defense to play against when run effectively, as seen in New York and Philadelphia. Effective West Coast or possession-passing teams that can protect the quarterback can beat this defense.

Marcell Dareus in the Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4 Defense

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Dareus is capable of playing both a two-gap assignment and one-gap assignment. Dareus is somewhat similar to B.J. Raji in terms of size and lower body power, and occupying two gaps was something he regularly accomplished at Alabama.

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Dareus can also play nose tackle, though this somewhat negates his ability to penetrate and make plays on the move.

Dareus in the 30 Over Defense

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While the Bullough-Fairbanks 30 front would become the Bills base defense, the 30 Over becomes a variation to throw at offenses out of the same formation. This defense is similar to the defense that Dallas played under Wade Phillips. Dareus has enough burst off the line of scrimmage to cause offensive line blocking schemes to account for him, even if left on the backside. Similar to how Buffalo could use Nick Fairley, Edwards could walk Dareus down into the 3-technique position for a defense that looks like this:

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While not as explosive as Fairley, Dareus' strength combined with quickness needs to be accounted for. He may be a half-step slower than Fairley bursting into gaps, but his size and strength would make him difficult to dislodge once in the gap.

Dareus in the 46 Defense

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Edwards can play this defense with two-gap defensive tackles, or one-gap defensive tackles. As in the 3-4 schemes, Dareus can play both assignments well, which allows the defense to shift between schemes without changing personnel.

Assessment
Unlike Fairley, Dareus is a schematic fit for any defense that Buffalo runs, not just one-gap schemes. Adding Dareus to Kyle Williams and Torell Troup would give Buffalo tremendous talent on the interior of the defense. Dareus is a very stout defender, which would allow Buffalo to use multiple schemes out of similar sets and personnel packages.

If Dareus is available at the third overall pick, GM Buddy Nix might be hard pressed to pass him up.

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Adding Dareus to Kyle Williams and Torell Troup would give Buffalo tremendous talent on the interior of the defense

I have to defer to my old pal Monty Burns – “Excellent”

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Mar 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

33%

Chance we have the opportunity to get him. I think he will be a force.

"Jay Park is cool, he just says stupid things..."~All Jay Park's friends

by HurricaneJay on Mar 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, but his stamina and weight are concerns

Dareus does seem a great fit, unlike Fairley, but there are questions about how often he will be on the field and whether he will take plays off. In college he had problems with his stamina at times, and that is likely to be a greater problem in the NFL. Also, the fact that his weight shot up from around 306 to 319 at the combine could be a red flag. At 319 he’s fine, but one has to worry that he could be another Shaun Rogers who will balloon up and as a result become much slower than one would like. Nix and Co. really have to check out his personality carefully before investing a #3 overall pick in him. I don’t think he is as big a risk as Cam Newton, but there is some risk here.

by Macktruck on Mar 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Did his weight ‘shoot up’ from the season, or was his listed weight low?

For being 319 lbs at the combine he looked remarkably fit, moreso than Fairley who’s lighter. But I think it’s safe to assume that over time he’ll put on more weight (as most players (and people!) do in their mid to late 20s); he seems to be built to handle that.

by Pistol on Mar 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’’s hard to know where he was really at during the season, but it sure was a surprise when he came in at 319 at the combine. And yes he looked very trim at Indy. My concern is what will happen in the future. If he can keep control of his weight there is no problem, but if he is going to be playing at 370 lbs. five years from now (like Shaun Rogers) it will definitely impact his stamina and performance and he will not look much like a #3 overall pick.

by Macktruck on Mar 25, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Anyone that has a naturally huge frame is at risk of gaining alot of weight very quickly if they dont check themselves. But I love the versatality I keep hearing about. It would go along way in disquising our schemes at the LOS.

"Jay Park is cool, he just says stupid things..."~All Jay Park's friends

by HurricaneJay on Mar 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

DJ, do you see Buffalo ever going with a 3 man front of Dareus, Williams and Troup? Those 3 guys would make a tough DL to run against and Williams at least can get a little pressure on the QB all by himself.

In your opinion, who would be the DL who would most help Buffalo improve the run defense? Which DL would most help the pass rush? Which DL would help out both areas, while perhaps not excelling in either?

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Mar 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

They could. I’ve always thought that Williams would be a great right end.

Dareus is the best option for Buffalo, in my opinion. He doesn’t really help with the pass rush like Bowers or Quinn, but he would get a good inside push and have similar effects as BJ Raji.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Mar 25, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you on the Dareus bandwagon if he’s on the board (doubtful) and the Bills sit tight at #3 (likely)? Or are you still hoping for Gabbert?

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Mar 25, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gabbert

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft Owen Marecic in 2011" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Mar 25, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I miss a post on why you like Gabbert? I’ve seen you comment that you like him but nothing like the X’s and O’s…

It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.

by Ron From NM on Mar 25, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s coming. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 26, 2011 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Armstrong.....

There was one OT that gave the great Bruce Smith fits at times…..even when Smith was inn his prime…..new england OT bruce armstrong was his nemesis…..Bruce Smith was asked once,
‘what makes bruce armstrong so good?"
Bruce smith answered, “his butt.”…."He’s got a big butt, like me, that’s where your power comes from."

Marcel Dareus has the biggest ass I’ve ever scene…seriously, it has 2 zip codes, it’s massive…we should draft him on the butt theory alone…..

gobills!

PodunkO - The great post ender!

by podunkowego on Mar 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Butt Theory??

You may be right, but I just can’t see Mike Mayock talking about how wide some other guys A$$ measured at the combine.

by Moose68 on Mar 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

good theory, but
Marcel Dareus has the biggest ass I’ve ever scene…

You’ve obviously never been to the beach on a Sunday ;-)

Anyone but Cam Newton at #3

The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

by Joe P. on Mar 25, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

photo....

hey, who the hell is behind marcel dareus in that cover photo? He looks like superman, let’s draft him too!

gobills!

PodunkO - The great post ender!

by podunkowego on Mar 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this role more or less important than a dominant 4-3 DE?

If Dareus were to become the great player many expect would his performance have the same impact as a Mario Williams, Jared Allen, Julius Peppers type centerpiece? As the 3rd overall pick I kno were not looking for another Dwan Edwards type player

by BuFFaL0nian on Mar 25, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dareus is more a DT, where you list predominantly DEs in comparison.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 25, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

type of player.....

I think of him as a haloti ngata light.

a pinch smaller and a half a step more explosive…….

gobills!

PodunkO - The great post ender!

by podunkowego on Mar 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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