Baker's Dozen Bills Scheme Fit: Da'Quan Bowers
This post is part of a continuing series in which we break down 13 2011 NFL Draft prospects - our Baker's Dozen - that should interest the Buffalo Bills. Keep up to date on our Baker's Dozen series here.
The Buffalo Bills transitioned to a 3-4 defense in 2010. The lack of personnel to fit the scheme forced Chan Gailey and defensive coordinator George Edwards to play more 4-3 defense as the year wore on. While GM Buddy Nix will continue to draft personnel for the 3-4 defense, Gailey has said that the team will run a multiple front defense. The hiring of Dave Wannstedt, historically a 4-3 coach, reinforces the point. I expect Buffalo to run three to four variations of their defense. Here's how Clemson junior Da'Quan Bowers would fit in.
Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4

This is the base 3-4 defense employed by members of the Bill Parcells coaching tree. This defense is very stout when the three defensive linemen are capable of playing two-gap assignments, but is vulnerable to two-tight end offenses.
3-4 Over (also known as the 4-3 Over)

This defense is effective at penetrating and disrupting the offense, but can be run against effectively by teams that can rush with power.
46 Defense

This is a difficult defense to play against when run effectively, as seen in New York and Philadelphia. Effective West Coast or possession-passing teams that can protect the quarterback can beat this defense.
Da'Quan Bowers at defensive end in the Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4 Defense

In Buffalo's base 3-4 defense, Bowers would play as a five-technique end. Bowers is very strong in his lower body and plays with power, making this a good fit for Bowers. Though this position somewhat negates his quickness, Bowers plays power-to-speed anyway, and locking horns with a large offensive tackle head up should be an assignment that he can handle.
Bowers at outside linebacker in the Bullough-Fairbanks 3-4 Defense

There are pros and cons to playing Bowers at outside linebacker in this scheme. Bowers is playing in a position that puts him one-on-one with the offensive tackle most downs, and limits him to a one gap responsibility. This unleashes Bowers onto the offense. However, Bowers isn't fluid enough to drop into pass coverage, limiting what the defense can do. The quarterback will know at the pre-snap read what Bowers is going to do if lined up at outside linebacker: rush.
Bowers at Defensive End in a 30 Over Front

While the Bullough-Fairbanks 30 front would become the Bills' base defense, the 30 Over becomes a variation to throw at offenses out of the same formation. This defense is similar to the defense that Dallas played under Wade Phillips. This is nearly an ideal use of Bowers: though he's lined up on the tackle, he only has one gap responsibility, and would be able to penetrate, initially working into the gaps using power and then closing on the quarterback with speed.
Bowers at Outside Linebacker in the 30 Over Defense

The "Jack" outside linebacker in Buffalo's scheme puts his hand on the ground and positions himself as a de facto defensive end. While lined up in the outside linebacker spot, this position offers the same benefits for Bowers as lining up at outside linebacker in the base 3-4: rush opportunities. Buffalo can't disguise this defense, though, because as soon as Bowers lines up at the Jack position in a three-point stance, the scheme is easy to read.
Bowers in the 46 Defense

This is another good fit for Bowers, putting him in his natural end position.
Assessment
Bowers is a tremendous athlete that will fit in all of Buffalo's schemes if used strictly as a defensive end. Once Bowers starts lining up outside the tackle as a linebacker, Edwards is limited in the play call. Bowers is simply not fluid enough to drop into coverage effectively. At best, Bowers could be a Willie McGinest-type outside linebacker: mostly rushing, but sometimes dropping into the flats or short zones, with limited effect in coverage. With Bowers at outside linebacker in the 3-4, Buffalo would be a 3-4 in name only, effectively running a 4-3 variation (also called 30 Over).
With Bowers at end, there are also some limitations. Bowers is somewhat similar to Justin Tuck. Lining up Tuck in a 3-4 would be good, but Tuck is best used as a 4-3 end that slides inside as a pass-rushing three-technique on obvious passing downs. It's the same for Bowers. As a 3-4 end, Bowers could be effective, but always leaving fans wondering "how great would he be if he was a 4-3 end?"
No doubt, Bowers is a great player. If Buffalo takes Bowers, either the defense transitions to a 3-4 in name only, or Bowers is limited in effectiveness.
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This is why i like Quinn
He would be a much better fit droping back, and still has the ability to line up as a 34 end.
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I don’t agree with any of that.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Mar 31, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
its a pretty popular view
could you explain why you dont agree???
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Quinn and Bowers are different types of athletes. Bowers’ game is that of power; Quinn’s is speed and finesse.
A lot of people say Quinn is athletic enough to play OLB, and while they’re correct, he’s so far away from being able to do that it’s not funny. He’s still incredibly raw as a pass rusher, and that’s without considering that he’s never, ever been asked to drop into coverage. If you ask him to play that role, you better be ready for only a slightly quicker start to his career than the one Aaron Maybin has had.
Quinn, in an ideal world, would flip between 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB. Bowers would flip between 3-4 DE and 4-3 DE (or 4-3 three-tech DT). Different types of athletes, different types of games.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 31, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that but what I dont get is
lots of college DE’s have to convert to OLB in the pro’s, and have never droped into coverage before. Some never get it but a lot do, and Quinn has the size and physical ability to pull it off. Why are you so sure he could not make the switch as fast as most guys in his position?
Just curious do you prefer the (4-3 end - 3-4 end) positional flexability to the (4-3 end-3-4 olb) ? If so why?
Thanks!!
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Buddy Nix has said he likes the depth he has at OLB. If they’re looking at pass rusher, I think it’ll be either Von Miller, or a rusher that can line up with a hand in the dirt and help Kyle Williams out. Just my opinion. Call it a hunch.
It’s not a knock on Quinn when I say I don’t think he’ll transition to OLB quickly. This kid hasn’t played football in well over a year now. That’s a lot of rust he’s going to have to knock out – and he may not get mini-camps and OTAs to do it. If you’re looking for immediate impact, Quinn ranks right down there with the QBs this year.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 31, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
something that I have worried about as well
quinn in coverage probably not good. bowers is an interesting pick but if his pro day is great we probably won’t have a cance to consider him at three. denver or carolina could take him first.
Wanted to give a shoot out to der jaeger for the great breakdown. Could you explain how u see dareus in these formations? just to compare. it seems like it would beeasier o hide the defense through the linebackers rather tn the line. i believe that. go bills
what i meant to say was a 43 end
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
So i think we agree,
but i like to think someone that was at his level would be able to come into camt ready to play, and if they want him to learn how to play as a 34 OLB, he would be able to pick it up.
Many people seem to think that Von Miller is the better option, but he has less versitility IMO.
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Thanks DJ
another excellent synopsis. I can’t approach the knowledge level you all have and really appreciate the education.
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Another great breakdown
As a supplement to the great piece you did earlier on the variations and history of 3-4 D… I would recommend this link that goes nto more detail on the history and applications of various NFL defenses. schemes…http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2009/09bramel_idpguide.php
it’s a fairly quick read and has great insight as to why scheme had such a big role in Warren Sapp’s success and also how Bruce Smith defied the odds as a 3-4 end
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Hey Der Jaeger...
unrelated question-
How do you tell the difference between 4-3 Over & modern 46?
There were bunch of games late last yr where I thought I was seeing 4-3 Over, w/ Moats at SLB on the line, but I’ve read that was a 46 ?
Is it the SS positioning, or position of D-linemen in relation to OL ? help!
Very similar in how they line up
A 4-3 Over (also known as a 3-4 Over) plays a NT, two 5 technique ends, and one OLB as a DE. The 46 typically has a tackle lining up over a guard.
Good question.
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Great Job!
I like the assessment and I totally agree taking bowers has its limitations that it brings to our defense. With the one year wonder stigma and injury question marks I don’t think Bowers is a snug enough fit to be the pick at # 3.
OLB
How flexible are Moats and Merriman in a scheme that has a rookie playing the Jack position? They both fit there, don’t they? Can they switch over to the other OLB spot?
2-back sets
I couldn’t help but notice that in all of your illustrations you have the offense in a 2-back formation. Is this for simplicity?
The only reason I ask is because the consideration of putting Bowers at OLB against a 2-back set is one thing, having him lined up over a TE with multiple receivers on that side of the formation seems like a breakdown. So, I guess I’m also wondering if you think the offense will dictate his use in this way?
Thanks, and as usual, a great job.
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thanks
once i asked the question i realized these are base defenses and any kind of 3 wide or two TE sets you’d surely switch to a nickle or dime where he’d be essentially rushing the passer with his hand on the ground.
thanks for answering, anwyay.
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I disagree
I think Bowers is a 43 end and that is it… I don’t think he is stout enough at the point to hold up as 34 end…however I do agree that he wouldn’t do well in pass coverage if a team wanted to move him to olb… i think the only way he fits in to our scheme is as a 43 end and that is basically it.. I WANT DAREUS!!! He is a guy that could play any position on the d-line on any front.
































