Marcus Stroud Is Most Recent Name In Bills-Patriots Pipeline
The Buffalo Bills released defensive end Marcus Stroud on February 16. Two weeks later, he has now signed with the New England Patriots. Stroud isn't the first aging veteran to sign with the Patriots, as he joins a long line of former Bills to find homes in New England under Bill Belichick.
The most notable former Bill to sign with the Patriots in recent years is Antowain Smith. Smith was Buffalo's first-round pick in 1997 as the heir apparent to Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas; he spent four years in Buffalo, but never quite lived up to that billing, starting only 28 games with the Bills. He had a single 1,000-yard season in 1998, when he started 14 games. With the Patriots, Smith started 36 games in three seasons and gained almost the same number of yards in 12 fewer games while earning Super Bowl rings in 2001 and 2003.
Sam Aiken, Buffalo's fourth-round pick in 2003, signed with New England after his rookie contract expired. He played three seasons there, catching 28 passes and the only two touchdowns of his career in nine starts.
Another former Bills draft choice, 2000 fifth-round pick Sammy Morris, has spent four years with the Patriots after spending his first four in Buffalo. (He also spent three year with the Dolphins, just to make matters worse.) The running back has 14 starts and 1,939 yards from scrimmage for New England to go with 12 touchdowns in 47 games - numbers that far eclipse his number with Buffalo.
Previous trips from Buffalo directly to New England that resulted in one season or less of time on the Patriots roster were also made by '70s linebackers Merv Krakau and Edgar Chandler, DB Ray Hill (who won a Super Bowl ring in 2001 despite never playing in a regular season game), offensive lineman Ross Tucker (who played in one game over two seasons there), and cornerback Jason Webster.
Other former Bills who eventually found their way to New England after a stop with another team include wideout Marlin Briscoe, nose tackle Ted Washington (won Super Bowl XXVIII), kicker Shayne Graham, safety Rashad Baker, guard Marques Sullivan, and defensive tackle Marlon Favorite. Former Bills defensive coordinator and head coach Joe Collier (1962-1965, 1966-1968) was the Patriots' defensive coordinator in 1991 and 1992, as well.
The pipeline hasn't been a one-way street, however. Some very notable names in Bills history previously wore the Patriot logo on their helmets. Two distinguished Bills quarterbacks, Doug Flutie and Drew Bledsoe, both called New England home in the early parts of their careers.
Flutie spent three seasons with the Patriots, going 8-5 in his first stint as a Patriot from 1987-1989. In 1998, Flutie won the Comeback Player of the Year Award when he joined the Bills from the CFL, leading Buffalo to a 7-3 record in his ten starts and earning a Pro Bowl berth. He went 10-5 and 4-1 in the next two seasons as Bills starter, accumulating the best winning percentage ever by a Bills QB. He was released in an effort to free up salary cap space in 2000, but the 38-year-old went on to play five more years, including his final season with the Patriots.
For nine years, Bledsoe led the Patriots offense into battle against the Bills. Following the 2001 season, a season where he won the only Super Bowl ring of his career on the bench watching Tom Brady, Bledsoe was traded to Buffalo. He made the Pro Bowl in his first season with the team, having the best statistical season ever by a Bills QB. His 23-25 record didn't do him any favors, though, and he's still seen as a failure by many Bills fans.
Lawyer Milloy played seven seasons in New England before shuffling off to Buffalo late in the summer of 2003. His first game less than a week later was an emotional 31-0 victory over his former team, with Milloy and fellow ex-Pat Bledsoe leading the way. Milloy spent three years with Buffalo, starting 43 games.
The most successful former Patriot to help the Bills was Boston's inaugural head coach, Lou Saban. After leaving the Patriots in 1961, Saban led the Bills to two AFL Championships in the mid-1960s. He returned to the Bills in the 1970s, unleashing O.J. Simpson on the NFL record books, and he has the second-most games and wins of any coach in team history.
Other former Patriots who have joined the Bills for a short period of time were running back Justise Hairston, guard Kendall Simmons, tight ends Jonathan Stupar and Michael Matthews, guard Rob Myers, receiver Chad Jackson, and linebacker Pierre Woods.
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Does anyone know what Stroud’s deal with the Pats was worth? I’m curious how highly they valued him.
Just a 1 year deal
Probably either cut before the 53 man limit or Ty Warren is traded and he is the 1st and 2nd down run stuffing LDE.
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2 years..opps
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
2 mill i think
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This isn’t Pats related but if we were still a 4-3 I’d give Vernon Gholston a shot.
Acceptable #3 Selections: Blaine Gabbert, AJ Green, Von Miller, Cameron Jordan, Marcell Dareus, Prince Amukamara, Patrick Peterson, Robert Quinn
OK
But I think Ryan would rather see Maybins’s toes than his tires!
If we don't take QB at #3 overall than Buffalo's owner needs to evaluate his own sanity and ability to run anything, let alone the Bill's.
by buffalobacker on Mar 4, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol!
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by insertscreenname on Mar 6, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
If stroud didn’t work in a 3-4 with us why would it work with them pats? I’m not as familiar with the pats depth at the position. I’m assuming their hurting for it to sign stroud. Don’t get me worng all the players have said he’s a stand up guy. I wonder if he’ll last past the beggining of the season.. If he does I sure hope he doesn’t make us kick ourselves in the face for letting him go.. But I doubt it.
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by OC-BILLS-FAN on Mar 4, 2011 6:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No worries
I wonder if he’ll last past the beggining of the season.. If he does I sure hope he doesn’t make us kick ourselves in the face for letting him go.. But I doubt it.
“I wonder if he’ll last past the beggining of the season”
He won’t.
As you said, if Stroud didn’t work in the Bills watered-down, unable-to-stop-the-run 3-4, there’s no way in hell he’ll work in the Pats’ version.
Bill Bellichek’s only doing the same thing he’s done for years: signing a recently released Bill, picking his brain for info, then releasing him before the season. Besides the above mentioned players, he’s done this with FB Phil Crosby {2004}, and WR/KR Charlie Rogers {2003} . . .
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stroud
The pats have a depleting DL, and by signing stroud to a 2 year deal, it is good for depth for now. Also,
the pats have wilfork and a very good LB core. To say that because stroud wont work in the bills 3-4, and he wont work in the pats system is not entirely true, but we wont know until he actually plays, but the pats have different personnel than the bills.
And yeah, all teams signing players from there own division pick their brains. ;)
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formerly patriotguy2 ;)
April 19, 1973 -- BILLS & PATRIOTS MAKE TRADE
The Bills traded LB Edgar Chandler, LB Jeff Lyman and FB Wayne Patrick to the New England Patriots for LB Jim Cheyunski, DL Halvor Hagen and C Mike Montler.
Had FB Jim Braxton, so didn’t need Patrick. Chandler & Lyman were expected to be back-ups or cuts. So we traded dead-weight.
Cheyunski became the starting MLB, and Montler the Center for the “Electric Company” leading OJ Simpson to his 2003 yd season.
Like to add this from the 1973 regular season.
Beat NE, in Foxboro, in 1st game w/OJ getting the (then) 250 yards rushing record, enroute to a 9-5 season, just missing the playoffs.
First year of (Rich) RWS stadium, 1st home game was the 3rd, beat the Jets 9-7.
The right (draft) move sometimes might be to strengthen a strength. Filling holes in the 1st round leads to grabs and busts. by Steve_Chiefs.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Mar 4, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions
This is really the best article that could be posted on here? Who cares about the Patriots?! How about some NEWs? Maybe more details about and insight into prospects’ performances at pro days?
If you don’t like it you can read something else. :-)
We have the most comprehensive draft coverage of Bills prospects anywhere, too.
When Stroud signed with the Patriots some were up in arms that another one of our guys went to NE. I decided to take a look at how many it’s been and how well they’ve done since. If you don’t like it I’m sure there’s other stuff somewhere for you to read.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
And for someone who’s been a member of this site for a little over a week, I’ll just point you to the draft coverage we’ve had:
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/section/2011-nfl-draft
Click that and be inundated with 2011 draft information about the Bills.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
This is really the best article that could be posted on here? Who cares about the Patriots?! How about some NEWs?
no – but it creates diversity. Different people like different things – I don’t care a ton about this either but that doesn’t mean there are people that don’t appreciate it.
this site has a ton of content and mixing it up is a good thing – we’re all fortunate to have a dedicated and hard working staff on this site that’s willing to VOLUNTEER their free time to keep this site dynamic and full of content.
just skip these articles if you don’t like them – i typically do that if I don’t care about the content.
Also – there’s a fanpost section that would allow you to create your own post – I encourage you to do so if you’d like other content here.
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by J2 on Mar 5, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
We post about 45 articles a week. If you don’t like this one, I’m certain you can find something else that you will enjoy. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
makes perfect sense
Ex-bills already know the AFC east pretty good so for a depth or situationa type player it makes sense
Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience
by keysh67 on Mar 5, 2011 6:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks for the link over at PP, Matt.
I think it’s just the ability to see and evaluate a guy twice a season. You’re able to study the player a bit closer than, say, the Cardinals’ D-linemen, because you play twice a year.
That’s why there was such big talk of Schobel going to NE last year. Belichick had seen him destroy Matt Light up close, and like Welker, someone who wrecks your team would be better off on your team.
And Taylor from the Fins Jets…
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