Bills Players Working Out At "Camp Fitz"
by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2011 8:31 AM EDT
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While Buffalo Bills fans are anxiously awaiting the 2011 NFL Draft, a small group of Bills players are out in Arizona working out together. I'm not precisely sure who all is there, but judging by the above photo, at least two quarterbacks (Ryan Fitzpatrick, Levi Brown), one running back (Fred Jackson) and five wide receivers (Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, Naaman Roosevelt and Marcus Easley) are attending what the group is calling "Camp Fitz."
They may be locked out, but they're still working on building something. As fans, we can't ask for anything more than that. Just a couple of opinions I'd like to share: if you're not sold on Fitzpatrick being, at minimum, a leader for this team, please allow this to melt your icy exterior. (Also, he appears to be wearing an Autobot t-shirt. That is also really awesome.)
Before I turn the comment section over to you, I'll leave you with one final, non-Fitzpatrick thought: Marcus Easley appears to be a gigantic and physically fit human being.
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Lee and Roscoe are veterans so I kinda get why they aren’t there, but where is CJ Spiller and Shawn Nelson. Those are two guys that need as many reps as possible!!
by RockyTopBill on Apr 20, 2011 6:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
Although I really hope that at some point Lee Evans goes down there if for nothing else, to get more familiar with Fitz. I feel that it was not really Lee’s fault for his poor stats last season. The guy has had how many QBs he had to develop a repertoire with in his career?
by DynamicHero22 on Apr 20, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Spiller is there
according to Nelsons twitter
by The Whistle on Apr 20, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Nelson has never said Spiller is there!! He is not with them practicing.
by RockyTopBill on Apr 20, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Spiller is not there.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
easley is large, but..
looks soft, a lot of that is not football weight
easley is large, but..looks soft
Uh Oh, looks like the first TWSS of the day…maybe a record at 7:35AM
Hello, front desk? Can I please leave a wake up call for 4/28 8PM? Pleeeease? I want to be out cold until then.
by fansince60 on Apr 20, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
An early bird
Joe P. you can rest longer !
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LOL.....I pass the torch to f60 :-)
Anyone but Cam Newton at #3. Preferably Peterson, Dareus, or Miller in that order…Unfortunately, we need all three.
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Mornings are the best time for that, afterall.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
thats the first really good TWSS
since the early days of TWSS! Well done fansince60!
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You're right
I think Easley, though quite big, is infect out of shape bit, although understandable after his off year. Can’t wait to see what he brings nextyear as him being out there now must mean he is healthy
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by killascript on Apr 20, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
If that’s out of shape, sign me up for out of shape.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
…but would you take it as a starter on your favorite football team?
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Dude looks pretty solid to me.
Doesnt have the normal skinny but muscular build of a WR, just a solid, thick, built WR.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
no definition around the middle. he looks like he’s been pumping weight, but he has not been keeping up on the cardio and plyo.
he’s carrying maybe 20% body fat. Look at the other dudes, they’ve probably been going with a well rounded regimen with lots of cardio and plyometrics. they’re body fat is probably down around 10% – maybe less.
Stevie and Naaman look like they are in the best shape.
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he’s carrying maybe 20% body fat
Are you nuts?! 20% body fat? Really? You made all that from a picture at a 45 degree angle in a partial shadow?
The dude looks good, lets just leave it at that. We all know how having a low body fat percentage is a direct indicator of success – just look at Aaron Maybin.
I hate how I can make these judgments – one of my buddies is a personal trainer who changes his body shape the way most people change hairstyles and we probably talk about this kind of stuff way more than is healthy.
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He'll drop 10 LBs
and be in great shape. I agree he looks like he is about ten pounds heavy. Hopefully, he is not going to try to become the Bills pass catching TE of the future. :o
Although, he was considered one of the best blocking WRs in last years draft,… and I bet he goes 230 in the picture,… and could probably put on another 15LBs of muscle over the next couple of years if they wanted him to make the switch to TE.
Scary, I could almost convert our deep threat of the future to TE.
by WhatGoesAround on Apr 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why somehow its an indictment to not have a 6-pack if you’re playing at a skill position. You think he looks soft until you try to tackle the guy. I see Easley as this physical guy who can use his size for better body position and he’s got pretty strong hands – I’m a UConn alum and I watch most of their games.
I think part of Easley’s game is speed, as well as size. To maximize speed (and quickness) you need to drop the weight to the minimum, and sometimes you sacrifice bulk to do that. He’s got to figure out where his sweet spot in terms of strength, weight, speed is. He’s definitely not at the optimum right now.
Not a big deal. I don’t see why people are getting upset about that (maybe I kinda do – all these dudes are in great shape compared to most of us – but remember these guys its their job to not just be in shape, but to be optimally in shape.) He’s got time to work on that.
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all these dudes are in great shape compared to most of us – but remember these guys its their job to not just be in shape, but to be optimally in shape.
I agree with that. I’m not saying that its not their job. What I am saying is that I don’t see how we can say he’s not in “optimal” shape. He looks like he’s in great shape to me. I don’t understand the 20% body fat comment. Dude looks all muscle to me. All of a sudden he’s being pegged as not a hard worker or that we need to convert him to tight end?! I think that’s ridiculous. Give him time to pick up the system, the guy’s going to be at least a solid receiver for us – IMO.
I know this is a message board and I guess I should expect over-reaction to a certain extent but come on! – people are calling him overweight, lazy, and willing to switch him to tight end all based on a picture which I actually think shows how much he’s bulked up in muscle and looks like a big physical WR to me.
I don’t know if other people are calling him lazy. I definitely am not. Someone else pointed out, the other guys played all last season, he was on the sidelines. Doing work to bulk up is not lazy, just not the kind of work that improves explosiveness and agility – which like it or not, is what receivers need to do, and if you are doing it adequately, it reflects in how your body looks. The dude has a bit of some love handles – not a lot, but those few pounds can make the difference in how well you can accelerate and cut. All I’m saying, and I think the others are saying too is that he doesn’t look like he’s in season shape.
Ever since I read this kid’s bio – excelled in HS, but didn’t get recruited, so took an academic scholarship and tried out as walk-on who then became the #1 receiver on his team – I’ve been a fan. He interviews great. When he showed some nice flashes in the 1 or 2 preseason games he played, it got me even more excited for the kid. I am definitely a fan on this bandwagon.
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hes just got to shred himself up is all
he may have taken the winter to beef up and eat, get stronger… now he’ll shred it up, get quicker and faster and be ready for camp if there is one… hes just a little out of it, no biggy
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Yep
I was thinking the same thing. He needs to drop at least 10, maybe 15 pounds to get down to his fighting weight.
But, all that aside, it’d be nice to have a big dude like that to fight for the ball over the middle and deep in the end zone. Here is to hoping he has the toughness to play that role. His back story tends to suggest there’s plenty of fight (and intelligence) in that kid.
I’ll go on the record now as being a Marcus booster!
by oompaloompa on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
bravo.
wish the group was larger (maybe some secondary guys), but at least the skill players are doing something.
by quantumuprising on Apr 20, 2011 7:12 AM EDT reply actions
As I said, we don’t know that it isn’t.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
As for...
Spiller, Evans, Parrish, Nelson, et all….
someone took the picture… Let’s hope it was one of them…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Evans works out at Larry Fitzgerald’s camp up in Minnesota, last I knew.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Its Spiller
all the players twitter accounts say hes there
by The Whistle on Apr 20, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Easley looks like a beast!
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 7:25 AM EDT reply actions
UCONN!!!!
I need someone from Connecticut to root for… Go get ‘em Easley!! He’s bulked up since his UCONN days too!!
by BuffaloFanFromCT on Apr 20, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta Love Stevie's Hat ...
and I’ve said it before that I’m not convinced that any QB in this draft is better than Levi Brown with one year under his belt. I’m in the “get a second tier QB in the second or third round” camp. Then you’ll have Fitz and two young guys developing.
Haha! Forget Kyle Rudolph....
Easley the new TE……?! He’s freakin huge.
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Firstly – I’m not advocating twitter as a wonderful thing … i only follow Bills players (and Von Miller and a few select NFL people) … BUT it is awesome for seeing what the guys are up to. Torrel Troup regularly writes (if refuse to says tweets) about his gym sessions and puts videos up, he’s becoming an absolute beast and I can’t wait to see him dominating next season.
I think this is a great training excercise, and they seem to be having a lot of fun. Great characters like Fitzy and Flyguy can really help a team, people will want to play in B-lo with people like this around. Maybe not getting free agents, but it will really help keep them.
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Torrel Troup regularly writes (if refuse to says tweets) about his gym sessions and puts videos up
But you said “tweets” after all! ;-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t care if pundits call Fitz a “journeyman” or the No Name Receiving Corps “overachievers”. They played hard last season, and now they seem to be working hard during the lockout too. I really like those guys.
Can’t ask for much more, besides, maybe, a playoff berth. :-)
BTW, Freddy is tweeting a few pics from “Fitz Camp”. The best, so far, is Stevie pimping Fitz for the group shot.
Marcus Easley appears to be a gigantic and physically fit human being.
Thats the first thing I noticed when I saw that picture, I even tweeted that to you last night. Thats pretty cool of all of them to go to Fitzys for this. Still cant believe Spiller and/or Shawn Nelson arent there. Would have thought they would have gone… especially Spiller. At this point SNelson could be a lost cause due to the migraine stuff.
I like that Levi is there too. That shows me that he is going to work on his game and prove to Chan that he should stick around.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
Concerning Spiller...
Yesterday, Nix said the following (Taken from Brian’s piece on yesterday’s luncheon):
Nix talked about his personal belief that there are three phases to a successful draft pick: proper evaluation (athleticism/intelligence/production), proper coaching and strength training, and the professional responsibility (willingness to “do whatever it takes”) to achieve greatness, which he also said is hard to evaluate.
That speaks directly about Spiller’s misfortune last season, especially the part about “strength training and the professional responsibility to achieve greatness.” Sure, the line wasn’t very helpful most of the time, but a back from Coe College managed to do just fine.
Spiller needs to be working out. I’m sure he is. I just wonder with whom and where.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Im sure hes working out.
It would just be cool to see him get with Freddy and the rest of the boys.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
For sure. I need a better feel for what he’s going to bring to the team. Let’s hope there’s a season affording him that opportunity.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to Camp Fitzy
Rule #1: All players must grow a beard
Rule #2: We’re here to play football……….and grow beards
Rule #3: GROW A FREAKIN BEARD!!!!
Did I mention the tank is a tank?
I thought the first 2 rules were “You do NOT talk about Camp Fitzy.”
No?
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by WhyBillsWhy on Apr 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Next QB
If any of these guys can reach Buddy Nix/Chan Gaily, PLEASE tell them NOT to draft Cam Newton. I want that kid from Missouri. He has a brain, can work under center and is elusive. He also has a cannon for an arm.
He doesn’t have to start this year, either. Fitzpatrick can do the job for a year or two until the kid learns. By then , the Bills should be a lot better team and he can take over along with th maturing young guys.
Leader
This is how you build a winner amidst adversity folks
"Jay Park is cool, he just says stupid things..."~All Jay Park's friends
I wish I felt the same way. I don’t feel comfortable terming the team or its players as serious winners until they prove otherwise.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
thats fine
but a team is a team and it is exactly what the players make of it. Every single one on the team as a role. Until they prove otherwise, you’re not alone in that corner, but they got to start somewhere. your quote above about the three phases, nails it on the head.
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Yeah, that is all I meant. Build a winner. Not there yet, but as VSM states, gotta start somewhere. It is a positive and from what I can tell they have beaten alot of teams to this, in regards to organizing their own workouts.
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by HurricaneJay on Apr 20, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
This is exactly why
the Bills should not draft a new QB in the first round this year. Essentially that move tells Fitz that he will not get a true opportunity to take on the role as leader of this team. He’s done everything to deserve that spot, now lets give him a real opportunity to evaluate him over the course of a season, being the #1 guy going into camp for the first time in his career. Drafting a QB in the first round is a signal to Fitz that his employer doesn’t believe in him as having a long-term future.
Give the guy a real shot, and instead draft a guy who knows he’s stepping in as a backup who can learn from Fitz, have a shot at beating Brown for the backup role and step in when Fitz gets hurt. That guy should be available in the 2nd round or later.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Apr 20, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions
The Bills cannot be concerned with hurting players’ feelings. If they become too attached to a person, they may lose sight of the bigger picture. If the job is meant for Fitz, he’ll claim it no matter what the circumstance.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
Fitz is a big boy and pretty freakin sharp to boot. You can bet he understands the business as well as his own abilities/weaknesses plenty. Don’t worry about hurting his feelings. He will get over any set back in his life.
by oompaloompa on Apr 20, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
But the fact is
If you are going to draft a QB, what better position would you want to do it than pick #3. #1 or #2 would be the correct answer, but it may never get any better than this.
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The problem is...
…that there simply isn’t a quarterback in this draft worth taking at #3. At #34, definitely, but not with #3.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Can't argue this point
But, that’s what we are thinking, who knows what Chan and Buddy are thinking and D.W.
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I remember when Torell Troup was drafted last year, Kyle Williams said something along the lines of “every year they bring in someone to replace me and i just have to work hard and do my best”. Sorry I can’t remember exactly what, but he obviously did okay last year after the Bills drafted his replacement.
Group Pic
The first thing that popped out to me when I first saw the picture was how big Easley looks…..he’s definitely a big kid. Let’s hope he gets his chance to show the Buffalo Nation his stuff this year.
Secondly, Levi Brown looks like he might have bulked up a little too. Hopefully he’ll develop into a diamond in the rough.
It’s great to see Fitz’s leadership and the love he gets from his fellow teammates. It brings back memories of when Kelly had the guys over to his house regularly. Hopefully this is the start of something to build from. I’m a firm believer of team building outside of the practice field.
by BuckeyeBillsFan on Apr 20, 2011 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
Is Fitzy wearing an Autobot t-shirt?!
Levi has some guns on him, no?
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
Az
I live in Arizona and would love to know where these guys are training but I know I won’t be so lucky
Might be a high school or community center.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Def looks like a school to me which makes me want to find out even more, maybe I can sneak up on them
by BillsBacker81 on Apr 20, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It should be in the news
big state though
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I would love to see Spiller, Lee, and Nelson there also.
I am sure there is more oppertunity to build frienships there then in a regular OBD setting. IMO this is really important.
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by kai11 on Apr 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No Brohm.
That’s noteworthy, I suppose.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
WR?
Who says we need another wideout like Green or Jones?
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How does this prove we don't?
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Well
Stevie and Evans are solid for this year and I would surmise that Roscoe and Nelson are as well. Jones and Naaman have legitimate upside based on their fill in roles last year…then there is the potential of Easley and Felton Huggins. A Green or Jones pick would be a ridiculous waste in the first round. These guys are taking their opportunities very seriously and I am sure that fact is not lost on OBD.
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by lostlasvegan on Apr 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s never a bad idea to add someone with immense talent.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still taking Green #1
If my 1st choice is gone, and nobody will trade down at my price.
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seriously?
As opposed to other spots that we need to fill? pick #3 is a goldmine for trying to fix the defense and for any offensive talent, QB has to be more important than adding another WR, no matter how good he is. Typically WRs take a year or more to develope anyway.
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by lostlasvegan on Apr 20, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If the QBs available aren’t as talented as Green, it seems silly to pass up his talent.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously. I will not like it if they pick Green (as I’m sure much of the fan base won’t), but I’ll get behind it, since he is an awesome talent.
Having Parrish, Johnson, Evans, and Green with Easley and Nelson waiting in the wings would be a fantastic situation, after all.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I understand the sentiment.
I can’t ignore Greens potential. I am only suggest that nobody does. I realize that it is a position of least need. Then we are building for the future, stacking players to build future picks, Roscoe and Lee are winding down thier contracts. Although, not a popular pick, nobody has dropped him further than 6 in any mock since the college season ended. Many have him as the most NFL ready.
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WRs
Keeping 5 on the active roster is often the norm (sometimes 6). In our case if we took Green at #3 (god forbid) who would we drop? Certainly almost any current WR would be scooped up off our practice squad.
CC Infantino
My guess...
Would be Jones or Roosevelt. Possibly a trade for Evans, but not sure that’s feasible or smart (since you don’t know what Green would give you immediately).
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by WhyBillsWhy on Apr 20, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
But you have some idea what Jones and Easley can bring.
Size, strength, route running etc…… Young and hungry guys. I am not advocating trading Lee, but he has been through allot in his career, if he was to leave I would wish him the best, he is a good receiver with plenty of game left in him. We need size for the type of offense we are running.
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On Fitz...
What’s not to like about this guy?
1. He’s as smart as they come
2. He’s a leader (who is in the center…)
3. He let’s his actions speak for him
4. He takes chances
5. He has a great beard
6. He makes those around him better
Honestly, I firmly believe that Fitz is just now hitting his potential. It took him 5 years as a “spot” QB to develop into a quality starter (think Cassell and Brees). Folks, this guy is your franchise QB…
As for Brohm not being there; I think he was too busy cleaning out his locker for Andy Dalton.
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
What’s not to like about this guy?
Arm strength, accuracy, and decision making in high-leverage situations.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Apr 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Things I don’t like about Peyton Manning:
1. Inability to scramble
2. Lack of bulk
3. Displays frustration on the field
What’s your point? Everyone has flaws…
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don’t see the similarities?
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was very obvious that that wasn’t my point…
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
arm strength isn’t an issue
When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.
Yeah, he threw the ball with some serious power last year. Unfortunately, it didn’t always go where he intended it.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Ut oh...
Unfortunately, it didn’t always go where he intended it.
TWSS
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Women never belive that excuse ;-)
Anyone but Cam Newton at #3. Preferably Peterson, Dareus, or Miller in that order…Unfortunately, we need all three.
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
To be fair, he didn’t throw THAT many interceptions. His TD to INT ratio was the best we’ve seen in a while. I’ll never disagree that a lot of them came at terrible times. He also had some big plays at important times, too. Just think if Stevie had caught the pass against Pittsburgh…
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
His TD to INT ratio was the best we’ve seen in a while.
That’s like being the tallest midget.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 20, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that averaging 1 INT per game isn’t so bad (his was a little higher than that, but still), but look at when the INTs came…almost always at the worst possible moment. If he learns to limit his mistakes, especially at critical times, then he’ll have a better shot at being the QB for a while to come.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
My thoughts exactly. My underlying point is that he is getting better, and that he’ll be a heck of a QB if he continues to do so. Seems like there are a lot of folks that want the 30-year-old Scotch, but nobody is willing to wait the 30 years. He’ll never be Manning or Brady, but those are once-in-a-lifetime guys; if you think there are any of those guys for the taking this year, you are wrong….
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Folks, this guy is your franchise QB…"
Boy, that’d be great. It’s a longshot, but I absolutely love rooting for that guy. I hope he blows it up next year.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Apr 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just think we, collectively, have a habit of writing guys off after a couple of lackluster seasons. Rememer that Kyle Williams and Fred Jackson weren’t Pro Bowlers, or even starters, their first 2-3 years. For every John McCargo, there is a Kyle Williams….
by CPT Shawn on Apr 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Levi is going with the Blaine Gabbert Look
A man must except his fate or be destroyed by it
by BillsStampede34 on Apr 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with keeping Levi and letting him develop
Like Nix said, QB is not the most pressing concern. Let’s give Fitz a chance, yeah? Lord knows we have holes all over.
I like to believe this has more to do with the Bills players feeling like they can be something special. They started a year 0-8 and finished 4-4 while taking playoff and championship game bound teams to OT and 3 pt nail biters. All this with one year under a new coach and with a young roster. Im sure they can feel what they are capable of. -poz
I like Levi as well, but
he has a long way to go and an awful lot to prove. Big year for him in the class room and practice field. I can see him around through his contract or at least a couple more years, but then, maybe not, depends alot of this draft.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Absolutely
He’s as NFL ready as any other rookie QB will be this year (except for maybe Ponder), and we have to figure out if he is a viable back-up option or not. Let Brohm go, then draft another QB or bring in a vet in case Fitz goes down and Levi falters.
I like to believe this has more to do with the Bills players feeling like they can be something special. They started a year 0-8 and finished 4-4 while taking playoff and championship game bound teams to OT and 3 pt nail biters. All this with one year under a new coach and with a young roster. Im sure they can feel what they are capable of. -poz
I think we will see a FA at QB come in this year.
Even if we draft a QB early. I just don’t see us going 16 games without a more experienced back up. Fitz got pounded last year and even if our OL improves he will undoubtedly get pounded again. We will need assurance and insurance. The best way to help protect Fitz in my opinion is to keep our gunslinger handing the ball off more as an effective option.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Wait a minute, a picture with a bunch of dudes without their shirts on? Where the heck’s Maybin?
Formerly of thatguy34 fame.
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by Jon Harrington on Apr 20, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Easley looks so much bigger than Maybin. I need to see a side-by-side comparison.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Apr 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope that later they weren't playing a game of volleyball together........
…….. greased up in baby oil, with the boom box blasting, “Playing with the boys…….”
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Apr 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KLRNkLdzgI
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Apr 20, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitz
(Also, he appears to be wearing an Autobot t-shirt. That is also really awesome.)
I like this guy more and more every time I see him. It’s awesome to see these guys working hard and building chemistry during the lockout. Instills confidence that, if nothing else, this team finally has some heart again.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby. That’s what we’ve got to do. We’ve got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." - Buddy Nix
I like what fitz is doing with this young team
and I like how all the young guys are buying into each other and the Bills. Fitzpatrick has played a major role in being a leader and unifier. Stevie has played a major role in infusing swagger and a sense of identity and youth movement and Chan has been instrumental in making guys believe they get reps and playing time if they earn it. The offense appears to be leaps and bounds ahead of the defense mentally.
We need guys to start stepping it up on the other side of the ball mentally.
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Seriously.
George Wilson needs to get Aaron Maybin and the rest of the D over to his house and instill his work ethic in them and get them all on the same page. He’s not the most talented guy, but his leadership, character and work ethic are second to none. If they ever want to stop the run and get to the QB in 2011, they need to start gelling now. Come on Camp Wilson!
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby. That’s what we’ve got to do. We’ve got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." - Buddy Nix
Part of the problem is that its harder to run D drills without your offensive players. They could always go down to Camp Wilson and just lift weights, go over film, etc. I would love to see the D develop the identity and closeness, and dedication that the O is showing.
eh?
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Why is Stevie wearing a winter cap in the middle of Arizona????
anyone else find him wierd??? LOVE THE GUY but he is wierd!!
by BuffaloFanFromCT on Apr 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
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