2011 NFL Draft Results: Bills Select ILB Chris White
by Brian Galliford on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
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PrintWith the No. 169 overall pick (sixth round) in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills have selected Mississippi State inside linebacker Chris White.
Just like the Bills' third-round pick, Kelvin Sheppard, White was coached up by Chan Gailey, George Edwards and company at the 2011 Senior Bowl. A 6'3", 240-pound thumper at inside linebacker, White is an impressive straight-line athlete (4.68-second speed) that, also like Sheppard, has a chance to compete for playing time right away.
You're not going to find many explosive athletes at linebacker in the sixth round, and White certainly isn't that type of linebacker. White is a hitter, however. He's another smart, tough player that fits the identity that the Bills have clearly been trying to bring in with this draft class. A JUCO transfer and two-year starter in the SEC, White finished his Bulldogs career with 185 tackles, 19.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks and two interceptions.
Naturally, as a day three pick, White also has the right temperament and ability to play on special teams. At minimum, he's quality depth, but given the dearth of talent inside, he's also got a chance to emerge as a two-down starter - though he profiles best as a quality reserve.
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Defense, baby. I love it. Give us a few years to get last years/this years picks up to speed and we could be well on our way to naaassty defense.
Nix and Gailey are certainly aiming to be very successful in the 2012-2013 seasons, not this year
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
What does this mean?
Are you saying that these guys are passing up nfl ready talent in favor of higher ceiling raw talent? I just don’t see how this draft indicates anything that 2011 is a tank year.
by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I mean that by fixing our D, getting young players in, they are willing to let them grow into their roles
So while we take lumps in the short term, we should be really good long term
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
That's a great plan which seems to be what Nix has in mind
Run the table in 2011 with losses so we can get the #1 pick. No more losing our QB to the team two spaces above us. Sounds like a great strategy, and it looks like we are working hard at implementing it with this year’s draft.
Only way we are worse than last year is if Fitz gets killed because both Bell and Pears can't play
Colin Kaepernick.....Newton without the warts
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Seriously, we’ve injected a lot of talent into the defense, and people are saying things like “well, we’re in the Luck sweepstakes now!” Come on people…I think the team can definitely get better with this draft.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Team captain and likes to hit, perfect fit in the 6th round
STs and backup, what more can anyone want?
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
he might even get game time
on run downs.
by Billsdownunder on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense
Lots and lots of D. Decent draft IMHO
A QB is like a King in chess, if you don't have one you lose! Get a QB Buffalo!
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No complaints here really.
Glad to see the team going after players who played against the best of their peers.
Cant stress that enough.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Apr 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yah at this point a guy who is gritty tough smaart is gonna play st and and depth so something you need depth at is a good pick. People need to remember 65% of a nfl roster comes from rounds 4-7. Theses depth picks are important and at least we have hit on some guys in the past in theses areas.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Not into it at all.
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
rec'd
lol
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
Please....
try and understand that Modrak is only a scout. He DOES NOT make draft day decisions!
Why is it so hard for the Modrak haters have such a hard time understanding this?
He scouts, he evaluates, and then the front office makes the decisions.
Simple
Way to simple and logical to be true! :)
A QB is like a King in chess, if you don't have one you lose! Get a QB Buffalo!
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by buffalobacker on Apr 30, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even understand that? The rise after 10 years?
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Apr 30, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant remember who it was that had the mock draft fan post that had the Bills getting two big ILB.....
but kudos to him…………although he had Mohammed from Cal instead of Chris White.
Still solid job by him, even got the Sheppard part right.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Why?
I think its a great thing.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
YAh to get a squad for the senior bowl we would have to be in top 2 of the draft next season.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
I realize that.....
but the info gained on prospects is invaluable.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re two selections away from the anomaly of having 9 draft picks from states that seceded from the Union.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I wanted Taylor...
MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
-abayarde
me too. And with the Redskins picking back to back later in this round, I’m worried he won’t be around for the 7th.
by Bills or Bust on Apr 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In6xLlG1PPU&feature=related
impressive kid,good interview
The top 100 list.
Ok gotta love that whats his face on nfl n just saud that if anyone had a chance to make the top 100 next year from this draft its marcell dareus.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
I could not remember and I knew someone watchin nfl n would fill it in lmao.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Guy looks like he's dropped some LB's
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A very strong player, and extremely coachable. Got that from a friend of my brother-in-law that works in the MSU training facility. I know that sounds sorta goofy (I know a friend of a friend) but he is in town for an Uncles B-day party, and I talked to him directly.
He called him a team leader, hard worker in weight room and in practice, got on teammates that were slacking, and is a good guy personally. Sounds like a winner.
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With pick #244 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
Layoffs coming in the scouting department?
Seems like they can let all the scouts go that don’t cover the South.
:)
Buffalo is doing whatever they can to build a defense as soon as possible.
Though Chris White might not make any Pro-Bowls any time soon, due to what looks like some difficulties in coverage and in getting from coast to coast, he’s a defined inside run-stuffer. Chix said they were going to improve against the run, and they are continuing to strike while the iron is hot.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
I liked Royster as a RB.....
Washington making good use of their late round picks.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
I don't want to go all Coach Bob
But I think the Bills really could have done better here. There have been a few picks that I have not necessarily like at first but as I have read more I have changed my opinion…this is one that the more I think about the more it disappoints me.
Sturdivant and Herzlich have everything that this kid has all the way down to the intangibles and both of them have real potential to be starters while this seems like a career special teams player. Just my opinion
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
Chris White wins Conerly Trophy (excerpt)
The Conerly Trophy ceremony was held at the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame tonight, and Mississippi State’s Chris White, a senior linebacker and Vancleave, Mississippi native, won the award given annually to the top college football player in the state.
This is the second year in a row that a Mississippi State player has won the award. Anthony Dixon won the award last year. White is also the 4th Bulldog to win the award. In addition to Dixon, J.J. Johnson and Jerious Norwood have also won the award. This is also the only time in the 15 year history of the award that a school has won two years in a row.
The only other defensive player to win the award is Patrick Willis in 2006.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
by Dyl on Apr 30, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know why the Bills would take White over guys like
Greg Jones, Quan Sturdivant or Mark Herzlich? Find that kind of odd.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
Personal Preference?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess so.
It’s not that bad when I like 1 other guy instead of our pick at a position…but 3? That’s tough.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Apr 30, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember i believe greg and quan have fallen out of where they where projected so its not just buffalo we must not know something.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
isn't it time...
to change your name? Dareusfanclub You can keep the same number!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
by Cinga on Apr 30, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha, that's a good suggestion. I'll think about it
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Apr 30, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I threw that idea up in “TheBuffaloKid” FanPost earlier today.
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With pick #244 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
White is poor as a roving linebacker
but his strength appears to be in meeting the inside run head on at the line of scrimmage. He’s pretty one-dimensional in that regard from what I can tell. Think goal-line situations, or short-yardage. White is going to be in the game.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
Because they worked with him for a week and like him over the other guys herz cause of medical issues i guess people are saying that he will never be his true self. do not know much about greg or quan but they both fell really far through out the whole league so that has to be a reason.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
I’d really like to see Herzlich drafted by the Bills.
"Who else but Chris Drury!" - 2007
"Who else but...... um... yea.. about that.." 2010
by FloridaBuffalo on Apr 30, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tally so far
Defense
1 DT (Dareus)
2 LB (Sheppard, White)
1 CB (Williams)
1 SS (Searcy)
Offense
1 OT (Hairston)
1 RB (White)
Two picks to go and I’m feeling pretty good about the draft Buffalo has put together. There are some other guys I would have rather the Bills have taken but overall I think most of these guys will improve the team.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Yup I agree
I think today’s picks I’ve been “I wish they woulda picked so-and-so but cant argue with who they got” and thats cool, just looking for ballplayers are shallow positions and cant fault that.
All you can do on draft day is give your team good talented prospects who fit the team scheme and the team at positions that need talent infusion. I think thats exactly what Nix did in this draft
Agree though it is weird that they wouldn’t take a Quan Sturdivant instead as he was much more highly rated…
by Barman23 on Apr 30, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No OLB
What’s missing from Ron’s list is any OLB. Aside from Dareus, who is not a true pass rusher, we have not made any progress on putting direct pressure on the passer. Someone could say we have beefed up our defensive backfield and may see more coverage sacks down the road, but we basically drafted two safeties. That’s ok, but we already have three good to very good guys at the position in Byrd, Wilson and Scott. We will definitely be better against the run, but ignoring the pass rush could be costly, especially if Merriman does not return to his original form or gets injured.
It’s pretty clear from the draft that Nix has a LOT of faith in Merriman and Moats…I don’t know if I agree, but it at least explains the draft strategy. Beefing up the inside and the line allows the OLB to roam freer and rush the passer more.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
after reading the comments here..
"Don't I know you?"
"Nah, that ain't me, man. I'm from Buffalo"
by SamUK on Apr 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well, that's certainly got to be another piece of it.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
after reading the comments here..
"Don't I know you?"
"Nah, that ain't me, man. I'm from Buffalo"
by SamUK on Apr 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Washington going pure skill position apparently.
another WR taken.
No beef selected by them at all today.
Robinson played in the Fun N Gun with June Jones……….tons of production obviously.
Not really a game breaker though, probably a possession guy.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
after reading the comments here..
I’m confused about the nfl.com write up on this guy. Pretty terrible! I’d much rather trust you guys though….!
"Don't I know you?"
"Nah, that ain't me, man. I'm from Buffalo"
by SamUK on Apr 30, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
They needed to find Troy Smiths replacement.
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With pick #244 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
There goes Taylor
Taking a shot on him, much like Troy Smith.
I’d like Taylor’s chances better than Troy Smith though…………
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
He is being drafted as a back up.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
I know that.
Joe Flacco is their guy.
Taylor is good value here though.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't sound like
Batten is a far better athlete from what I understand.
by buffaloparks on Apr 30, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Explosive, smart, tough
and a “straight line” athlete who’ll contribute on ST’s.
describes them both
ha...well when you put it that way...
I thought Batten was better laterally and more agile. Interesting that we drafted 2 ILB’s in addition to moving Batten inside. Is the plan w/ Batten the same as w/ Moats? Start him inside then move him out?
by buffaloparks on Apr 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Pissed about missing out on Tyrod. So….McElroy or Devlin? I’m inclined to say they go with McElroy just cus of the Senior Bowl.
I sincerely doubt they are taking a guy with one of the two 7th round picks.
(sad face)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If they dont they plan on getting a undrafted fa qb when that opens up
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Yeah....
I still wanted them to draft one though.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Next pick is a qb just like last year.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
no
they will get a vet
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
Jeff Van Camp from Fla Atl might be an interesting guy to look at.
Has some athletic ability, not overly impressive stats wise though.
Best QB’s still available IMO are:
McElroy
Potts
Tolzien
Van Camp
Johnson (TAMU)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to think Devlin was decent
but the more I watch him the more I was left unimpressed.
I would put him after Johnson for sure.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
my alma mater!!!!
Fla Atlantic!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
whats the story?
Why hasn’t he been drafted yet. He was projected as a high 3rd. Isn’t he an absolute steal this late? He is the 3rd rated TE on ESPN.
If he had manageable blocking ability it would be awesome for Fitz to have another receiving TE.
by billshabsriders on Apr 30, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty disappointed if we don’t address the QB position at all in this draft. I mean, a 7th round pick is barely what I was hoping for but….at least I wouldn’t feel as though the COMPLETELY have their heads in the sand. I mean, I love Fitz and all but….c’mon Buddy.
by Bills or Bust on Apr 30, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Their plan is to go into camp with 4 qbs fitz a fa levi and a low round or undrafted free agent qb
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
That’s hardly addressing the issue…a pretty important issue. That’s the one thing about the draft that’s irked me….eother than that, I’ve been pretty happy with the picks overall.
by Bills or Bust on Apr 30, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If there is no guy they view as a franchise qb then I prefer not hitting the panick button in the second round.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
agreed
I don’t think another position battle at QB helps at all. Either they like Fitz and are looking for a backup or they should’ve taken someone with the #3 pick and started with him and let Fitz go to another team that actually would start him. I’m happy to see how Fitz will turn out this season now the defense should be a bit stronger.
by Billsdownunder on Apr 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Another solid, decorated SEC player! Love it
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
by bflo on Apr 30, 2011 4:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm pretty happy with our draft,
Real happy.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
by bflo on Apr 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jim Harbaugh taking Ronald Johnson...........
That guy gave Stanford fits at times at USC.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Nix said the Bills would get a QB in the draft or free agency. With free agency only a theoretical possiblity at this point I’d be surprised if Buffalo didn’t take a QB in the 7th. After all, it’s not like anyone can be signed as an undrafted free agent. The Bills need another QB just to get through camp if nothing else. I’m thinking McElroy if he’s available. Why not go with a guy who is smart enough to pick up the playbook during training camp (if there is one)?
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
McElroy makes sense here
they have two more picks and I think he will be available although Tyrod going probably makes it more pertinent to take him with the next pick to be sure.
by Billsdownunder on Apr 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
RB Jordan Todman to the Chargers
Keep your eye on that guy. He virtually carried Connecticut to a BCS bowl game this year. He’s taken here in the 6th round as depth, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we haven’t heard the last of him. He rushed for 2883 yards and 28 TDs in his last two seasons at UConn.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
Not that it really matters.........but ESPN Draft tracker has a "needs" list for each team
and the Bills have only addressed one of those needs…….and that was with the OT from Clemson.
The other needs were OLB, QB, and TE.
Just thought that was funny.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
I'm counting on Merriman to show up this year
If he plays at least halfway up to his ability, it won’t be a need position. Also Arthur Moats has a year in the NFL behind him now. I wasn’t a fan of his through most of the season, but his talent and quick learning just can’t be denied.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
ESPN has their "needs" list for the individual teams
And the individual teams have theirs.
They’re not necessarily identical . . .
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thats why I said, not that it matters.
:-)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerron Johnson in the 7th?
i like the idea of getting an athletic guy with upside if you get a late round QB. Plus hes big, unlike the troy smith/tyrod taylors of the world
MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
-abayarde
Jerod*
MAYBE this will break the mold , we need to come to play sunday and this year we will not SURRENDER TO KNOW ONE THIS IS BUFFALOOO Godzilla nation
-abayarde
by uPitt_BillsFan on Apr 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He got replaced after the first month of the season by Tannenhill..........
He looked AWFUL this year……I doubt he gets drafted.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Herzlich is somehow there in the 7th
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
That would be an imppressive pick up but I am not getting my hopes up he is going at 194.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Would be a cool story and a great gamble.
If he can come close to his previous self, wow!
I think it is incredibly short sited to draft positions of need over any attempt to develop a franchise QB. They treated this draft as a replacement for FA, and that is a terrible way to approach the draft. I don’t know why I am so angry right now, maybe it is a Buffalo Bills draft reflex, but I expect this team to be just good enough next year to have no shot at a top tier QB. And, since they clearly have no interest in drafting a project, Ryan Fitzpatrick is your De facto franchise QB. Teams with De facto franchise QBs don’t usually last very long.
I don’t think that I can be logical or objective about this anymore. Most Bills fans are happy that the Bills drafted the top guy on all of the experts boards, but by January of next year, all we will be talking about is our lack of a QB.
I am frustrated like you......
but they did draft Levi Brown last year as a developmental guy.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s likely that we’ll be pining for a QB. It’s also likely that zero people will be complaining about Marcell Dareus.
Editor-in-Chief, BUFFALO RUMBLINGS®
@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Apr 30, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
YEs!!!!!!
we need to have an actualy NFL roster too! and we had a chance, based on OBD’s evaluations, to seriously build a real NFL defense. But not a shot for a franchise guy.
Not true
If Gabbert turns into a good/great QB we will lament passing on him no matter how good Dareus becomes. LIkewise, if Kaep or Dalton turns into the real deal we will curse Nix for taking Williams, even if Williams becomes a pro bowler. That’s just the way it is.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
I think Brian addressed that part with the "likely pining for QB" part no matter what.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And..
When Brady gets hurt, and Mallett comes in and throws for 300yds?
The franchise QB breakdown
IMHO, franchise QBs breakdown into two categories: peyton manning and eli manning
Peyton: The guy who plays at a Super Bowl worthy level consistently over a long period, say 10yrs. The guy who could make a case for the HOF but definitely not necessary. The guy fans look to and say HE is the strength of the team. With this player, it is expected to make the Super Bowl and not doing so is disappointing.
Eli: The guy who plays at a Playoff qualifying level consistently over a long peroid of time. This player plays at a Super Bowl worthy level inconsistently, usually over a 2-3 yr burst or has a ‘great’ year every once in awhile. He is not the strength of the team but is talented and compliments the strength of the team. Often qualifies for 1 SB, may win 1. Fans hope to make the Super Bowl rather than expect.
I think Nix is looking to draft a prospect with a “peyton” level ceiling, not an “Eli” ceiling. Hence why Newton was the guy in this years draft. And why they’ll only regret passing up on a guy if they become a “Peyton” type player
Ok so draft a developmental guy that the team does not view as a franchise quarterback material what so ever just to grab a qb. That makes no sense and is really bad logic. If they feel a guy is a franchise qb they will take an aggressive approach to get him. Even if we got our guy this year that was developmental we make the playoffs that concept blows my mind.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
They treated this draft as a replacement for FA, and that is a terrible way to approach the draft.
In the absence of FA, what else should they have done?
I expect this team to be just good enough next year to have no shot at a top tier QB.
And that’s good.
That’s how PIT and BAL both developed: made sure everything else was in place, then got their franchise guy.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I’d rather Luck, or whoever the next flavor of the month college QB is, be the FINAL piece of the puzzle — not the FIRST step in the next “rebuild” . . .
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Problem with not getting the QB first is that it takes QB's a few years to develop usually......
which is not the case with guys like Dareus…………
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with not getting the QB first is that it takes QB’s a few years to develop usually……
which is not the case with guys like Dareus…………
Wasn’t the case with Big Ben {AFC title game his rookie year} or Flacco, either.
When you’ve got the other pieces in place, your QB can develop faster/easier . . .
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Big Ben his rookie year was throwing like 15-20 passes a game.....
Same with Flacco.
But yeah………I can find just as many teams that tried it with a QB playing first and taking lumps and won that didnt have all the pieces there.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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if there is one, is going to result in some good young players becoming better because of the competition we are going to have in certain areas.
Wide receiver we already have a great competition level at – Stevie, Lee, Roscoe, Roosevelt, Jones, Nelson, Easley etc – these guys are going to come in for a battle for playing time and that will make the team better.
Now it looks like linebacker is going to have a similar situation, especially if we draft a guy like Herzlich in the 7th is going to be a training camp with Shawne Merriman, Moats, Batten, Poz, White, Sheppard, Coleman, Kelsay, Andra, Torbor, Ayodele etc.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
Could be the same along the O-line, too
What with Urbik, Pears, Wrotto, Wang, and now Hairston . . .
One of the few things Tom Donahoe was right about, was when he said “competition makes us all better”.
Major problem
These guys would be hard pressed to make a roster let alone play
right
thats my issue with failing to add more to the o-line.
I will say, bless Stevie – he single handedly added a young, identity of swagger to the movement that was happening here by the play of all of them that other players can point to and say, something is going on there in Buffalo. I think free agency can be a chance for us to woo some good players thanks to Stevie giving us a tangible notion of a youth movement towards success.
Our successful draft today will just help that. Maybe free agency after the draft is a good thing for us.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
Not if Nix is sleeping whenever it starts.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But it looks different if you focus on OLB
The problem with your list is that Batten, Poz, White Shepp, Andra and Ayodele (if he gets resigned) are all ILB’s. It’s great to develop some real competition at that position. But what happens at OLB, especially if Merriman cannot stay healthy (we all hope and pray he can, but the record hasn’t been great recently). That leaves Moats, Kelsay and Coleman (I believe the Bills decided to let Torbor go). And I suppose we have to add Maybin just for fun. That’s not exactly a competitive situation on the outside, nor is there much talent there unless Moats really makes progress.
I am beginning to think that when we look back on the Bills 2011 draft at the end of next season we are going to have a lot of complaints, and one of the biggest will be the failure to bring in a strong pass-rushing OLB.
yes but...
too many holes to fill for 1 draft.
I agree with that
assessment. I like the draft a lot but my biggest sticking points were that Acho or Boling werent taken in the fourth and Cannon wasn’t taken in the 5th.
Great draft but OT and OLB still need work now.
Still hard to complain when I see 4 guys who should be starting by week 8 in the first four rounds. But I hear ya
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
One thing is an argument can be made that acho is not fast enough to stand up and play olb in a 3-4.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
yup
plus if they are right about Da’Norris, can’t complain about getting a starting SS if Donte leaves.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
OT: Hairston ( i really dont know anytihign about him, does he have a shot to start say at midseaon?)
OLB: absolutely agree. but too many holes for 1 draft. I know Acho was liked, but need a SS and if Searcy graded out higher, then i cant fault.
all of these picks depend on if these guys can actually play. like poz says, if 4 guys are starting, thats a great draft
I think our OTs are so bad
I wouldnt put it past Hairston to start at some point. And hey, Ed Wang has a great work ethic reportedly, who knows how he shows up to camp maybe…
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
And if they didn’t add ILB depth, we’d all complain about that. And if Freddie gets hurt, we’d all complain they didn’t grab a RB. And if Whitner walks and McGhee gets hurt, we’ll complain about DB depth. Too many holes for one draft.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
10 more picks till the Bills are back on the clock.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
206 and 245
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Herzlich still on the board
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
as i saida
Herzlich can play inside or outside.
Let him build up to his pre-cancer build on devolpmental squad
For one year. He is a steal.
Love Dan Lauria.........
I wish I could see him as Vince Lombardi…….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Giants got a big steal.........
Sash was a 3rd round projection most places I saw.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
Marvin Austin has the biggest legs I've ever seen
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
I love
The way the espn analysts are talking about how good the bills draft has gone so far. Tyrod Taylor in the seventh wud b icing on the cake!
bills big board
1. patrick peterson
2. aj green
3. marcell dareus
by PrinceAli on Apr 30, 2011 4:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's already been drafted
By the Ravens.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Powe........
330lbs and barely over 6 feet tall…………..thats a brickhouse.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
He is also illiterate
http://deadspin.com/#!5223328/ole-miss-football-players-dont-read-so-good
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
Don't know why it didn't link all the way
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
Damn
I didn’t kno tht thanks fOr ruining my cake lol. Well than I guess another o line prospect is the next best thing.
bills big board
1. patrick peterson
2. aj green
3. marcell dareus
by PrinceAli on Apr 30, 2011 5:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
mel kiper
Mel Kiper has had Kendrick Burney CB on his best available for a long time.
I’m just saying. I don’t know that much about the corner.
7th round
Greg cuz there wont be FA for awhile so get him while we can
The TEs left do you think there better than the ones we got now?
Virgil Green to Denver
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
ilb. ot, or qb at 206.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Need a list of the SEC and ACC players left to guess on this next pick
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Schilling from Michigan is a quality pickup.
Nice job by San Diego.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Damn that was fast.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Buddy Nix only has 2 more chances to get an approve from me. LOL>
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
Haha. Don’t see that happening.
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
return man I guess
Colin Kaepernick.....Newton without the warts
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
4.5 40......
hardly a burner.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
McGee wasn’t really a burner though was he?
Give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ
by NordicBillsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if this guy has a long stride like McGee......then perhaps.
you are correct though, McGee was a long strider.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yep....but still a head scratcher
Colin Kaepernick.....Newton without the warts
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
What a waste!
Whatever the concerns about Herzlich are, his upside is a starting OLB and a good one. How often can you find that in the 7th round?
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
must have tested positive at the combine
Colin Kaepernick.....Newton without the warts
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Not possible.
I know him personally and one of my best friends is really good friends with him. He does not do stuff like that
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
well, I don't know then......must be a reason
Colin Kaepernick.....Newton without the warts
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
huh.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
by poz on Apr 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HA HA
Wow……….
No matter who is incharge…DB’s a plenty!
oi vey
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1258550 scouting report on him
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Well thats the first smaller school guy.........
Still in the south though.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
We also have no pass rush that scares anyone
Maybe that’s not a coincidence, either . . .
Well, we may have just found our new return man
BUH-BYE, Roscoe!
That’s an ignorant comment. Parrish wasn’t even barely a returner last year, and if he was it was short-lived. He is a WR now, and producing.
You mean he was producing
until he got hurt. And it was about time after 5 years . . .
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Its a 7th round pick isnt gonna break or make the draft.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
True, but when you have someone with loads of potential like Herzlich on the board, it’s a little frustrating.
Give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ
by NordicBillsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, the Bills aren’t the only team to disagree about his amount of potential.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Apr 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good pick here.
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
Alright people...
…before we freak out and start naming Nix the second coming of Jauron (which, by the way, MAKES NO SENSE), can we remember that these picks this late in the draft are for depth and for developmental prospects? It’s a crap shoot in the sixth and seventh. They’re just grabbing the guys they think might make the best Special Teamers or possibly find a diamond in the rough. They didn’t spend a first, second and fourth on DBs, please remember that.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Apr 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Apr 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a crap shoot in the sixth and seventh.
Which is why Herzlich makes sense.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
and for the record
I agree with your overall point about not freaking out
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
Cue the DB haters
Like it makes a difference in the 7th. Just take BPA and start thinking about the UDFA which (MIGHT) be available at some point.
Could be, this isn’t exactly fertile ground for any position. If you can get ANYTHING out of the 7th give it a go. Can’t worry about positions at this stage.
by greysquirrel on Apr 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it hard to believe in a weak draft class like this.....
that a CB from Richmond is the BPA………….
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
There goes McElroy.
The Jets…………
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Rogers
His writye-up on CNNSI is fairly exciting for a 7th round pick…we now have 5 cornerbacks on the roster…I hardly see that as excessive.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Stop that!
We need something to bitch about! If it’s a 7th round CB then I’d say it’s a pretty successful draft.
by buffaloparks on Apr 30, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not upset that it’s another CB, I’m upset for the same reason that I didn’t like the Chris White pick…they could have done better.
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
Thats yet to be proven because alot of guys we complain about them not taking are guys everyone else is passing on also.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
All I'm saying
Is that there is a potentially really good OLB there (position of need) and I think it’s a mistake
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
A guy better than what we have? I see a top-notch OLB as a need, but we got decent prospects at the position. Adding depth ain’t the issue at that spot.
by greysquirrel on Apr 30, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If he can return to pre-cancer form
Then he will be better than we have
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
And he also has a titanium rod in his leg that is scaring off the whole league. They have to know something that we do not.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
He played the whole season with the rod in his leg.
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
No where at the level he was before. He wasnt playing in the nfl either if a whole league is passing on a guy gotta think theres a reason when he has fallin down into the 7th. I trust bills brass more than I believe a friend of a friend or stuff like that.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Evidently Buddy doesn't think they could do better
And at this point in the draft…it’s kind of a crap shoot, don’t you think? I never heard of Chris White or Justin Rogers before today, not saying you’re in the same boat, but based on what I’ve read I can’t be upset about it. Rogers sounds like he has some T. McGee in him:
Analysis: Rogers is an incredibly athletic prospect who comes with a lot of upside. He has the ability to immediately impact a team at the next level as a return specialist while also being used in dime packages.
Projection: 4-5
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/64897.html
by buffaloparks on Apr 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I have nothing bad to say about White or Rogers because honestly I have no idea, what I am upset about is ignoring OLB and leaving a good OLB prospect on the board.
"An offensive lineman from BC comes with a guaranteed pedigree stamp" - Wash. Post
I can definitely respect that, and I’m also not nearly as tickled w/ our OLB’s as Buddy appears to be, but Herz fell for a reason that we may never fully know. Personally I hope he proves everyone wrong…seems like a really good dude with an incredible story.
by buffaloparks on Apr 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I like him
A lot of people had him mocked in the fourth round… good cover corner…quick, agile, and great returner. He has very fluid hips and is great turning direction…not quite sure why he fell so far… maybe his small size?
"I lost my mind three months ago when I woke up married to a pineapple, an ugly pineapple... I still love her though."
Wait, i mean...
Another corner??? Ahhhh this draft sucks now.
"I lost my mind three months ago when I woke up married to a pineapple, an ugly pineapple... I still love her though."
Give these guys a chance! Our starting LT and top receiver were 7th rounders – who’s to say this guy can’t at least contribute as a 4th-5th CB? you never know with injuries and such
by BuffaloRepresent on Apr 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Im just stoked for my Madden Team!
I created Marcel Dareus, Kelvin Sheppard, Justin Rodgers and Da Norris Searcy for my team last month. And now they are all really on the Bills! That is awesome. Unfortunately I will have to delete Brewer, Von Miller, and Kaepernick, but it is going to exciting to watch these guys grow.
We are going to love Sheppard. I guarentee it. He is going to have Maybin type energy to get the crowd pumped up, only he will make plays too not just be a cheerleader.
"I lost my mind three months ago when I woke up married to a pineapple, an ugly pineapple... I still love her though."
Good/Bad
At least Rogers was on Kipers 10 BPA (doesn’t happen too often, like never). Burney though was a stud in the Senior Bowl, and I think would replace Corner in a week.
great pick
Say what ever you want we still have our Lombardi and there's nothing you can do about it
by mississippisaintsfan on Apr 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
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