Defensive Personnel predicting 1st round pick

by NHBillzFan on Apr 4, 2011 11:53 PM EDT

I figure that the Bills will go QB or D with the first round, I recently read someone questioning why go DL since they drafted so high last year? So I thought I would break down the defense to see what would be the logical pick in terms of need meets BPA on the defensive side of the ball.

So I will start with DL. DE With Stroud no more, we have Carrington, Edwards, Johsnson, and Mccargo. Only two got significant playing time, Edwards and Johnson so we will pencil them in at starters. Next we will go DT, Easy enougth with Meatball and Troup.So the line looks like

Edwards - Williams - Johnson

Carrington - Troup - Mcargo (if he makes the team)

LB's are solid with potential on the outside with Merriam, Kelsey, Moats, Batten, and Coleman.....eh Maybin. Inside needs help with Ayodele, Poz, Davis, and Ellison and Torbor. So LB's look like so

Meriman -Poz (Ayodele is no Poz)-Davis- Kelsey

Moats - Ellison,Torbor and Ayodele-Batten and Coleman

DB's we have a group that could use help, Corner is questionable with Mcgee and Mckelvin, Florence might not be back and Yobouty and Corner will be Nickles or backups. Safety we are solid, Byrd who is getting better in my opinion at free safety and Wilson at SS if Donte does not come back, with Corto and Scott as backups, we could use depth here. So DB's look like

Mcgee - Byrd- Wilson (no Whitner) - Mckelvin (no Florence)

Corner - Corto - Scott - Youboty

From what i can see, the position in most need on defense of an impact starter is DE. Spencer Johnson or Alex Carrington as the best two starter options are scary; Johnson is a more than able backup and Carrington will be good but is raw, but neither are the kind of guy that will make an offensive coordinater change his gameplan. ILB can be said the same, but when judging need meets BPA, it would have to be DE. I could also see CB as that position could use help and peterson is a beast. Problem with the Peterson pick is they would still need to Address DE, so that would need to be #34 pick, which would mean Chix would most likely have to pass on the QB until the third.

Offensively I think it is safe to say QB is biggest need (although RT and TE are more in need of starter caliber), defensively we see DE is biggest need; so i think it comes down to who gets taken in the top two, and what we can get later on. I think Von Miller would congest the OLB position too much, so i dont see him a viable option. Dareus at #3 and Ponder at #34 makes most sense to me. If darues is gone, either Newton or Peterson will be there, and i think it comes down to one of those three guys, with Peterson pick meaning QB isnt tackled until the third.

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by NHBillzFan on Apr 5, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions

Agreed, DE is probably our biggest need.

We just don’t know what Chix has up thier sleeves with Free Agency when it resumes. Defensive end was selected last year in round 3 and there are plenty of prospects this year to last until round three where we could get that hybrid DE/OLB and a true DE in the first three rounds, definately in the first four. The question is elite talent at pick #3, who will it be and who will they get in free agency.

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by VanScottM on Apr 5, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions

Is Newton still part of the conversation? I had thought that Brian had speculated – likely rightly – that Nix liked Newton but Gailey wasn’t as sold….and that no QB would be taken at #3 unless CHIX was of one mind about the guy. Maybe Newton was able to bring Gailey around during his visit. I’ve heard Gailey say some nice things about Newton but he also said good things about Gabbert and other QBs in the same breath.

I’m bracing myself for a total reach, like Cameron Jordan, or a pick out of left field like AJ Green.

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by Ron From NM on Apr 5, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions

the thing about newton

is hell probably be on top of their draft board or he wont be on it at all. if they are both sold on him hes #1. if one of them (gailey) isnt a fan then they wont be touching him
and i take everything either gailey or nix has said in the past 2 months or so with a grain of salt. so much of this pre draft stuff is politics

by boomsauce on Apr 5, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Why is Jordan a total reach????

Mayout has him rated as the #10 prospect on his list. He could play any position on the Bills line and there are no red flags about his football ability or off field behavior. I think he would be a better pick at DE than Bowers (knee) Dareus (taking plays off) Quinn (tumor).

by Winnie33 on Apr 5, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Okay, maybe not Newton....but QB, DE or CB will be the #1 pick

gabbert and Newton are really the only two qbs considered not to be a reach at #3. I honestly think the CJ trade made sense last year, when you look at what they did AFTER the pic. They had a plan, not the best plan, but a plan. They had Freddy, but no backup and really wanted a waterbug, CJ was the best in the draft. This year, they needa DE, granted like Van Scott pointed out that it could be they were going to get a DE in free agency, but now that FA is after the draft, it changes the draft. I look at it this way, they need two starting DE’s, going into the draft they only have 1; years past this could have been solved via free agency, but not this year and that needs to now be addressed as priority #1.

by NHBillzFan on Apr 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

CJ pick, no CJ trade.

by NHBillzFan on Apr 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

We could go Qb at 34 then hope somepone like Allen Bailey slips to the third.

by ATF on Apr 5, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions

Dareus makes sense because he is a solid starter at a 34 end and a 43 end or inside with Williams in the 43

I cant stop thinking that Quinn could make the transition to 34 OLB and would be ready day one at 43 end.

If somone called and wanted to move up to 3 and we would say go back to 6 or 7, Quinn looks very tempting and leaves us the ability to get 2 more round one talent guys either bu moving up or picking at the top of round 2.

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by billsoferie on Apr 5, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions

but they dont need a OLB

they have two starters and 3 subs….unless a trade is on the way it makes no sense.

by NHBillzFan on Apr 5, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

How much faith do you have in Marriman?

I love Moats, but has much to prove and Batton has yet to step on the field

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by billsoferie on Apr 5, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Moats

is 1. what are the other starters?

by dgrid on Apr 6, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah 3 subs

a turkey sub, a chicken sub, and a pork sub :)

by dgrid on Apr 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Alot of faith

what happens if Merriman comes through, Kelsey is the other starter. Moats, batten and coleman all have potential, and then say Quinn as a first rounder? Yes the fan base would love to see Kelsey replaced, but the powers that be like the way he plays. So i do see room for another OLB on the roster, just not one that has as much invested in him as it will be harder to see an immediate impact, not to mention it would make CHIX look bad.

by NHBillzFan on Apr 5, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions

Kelsay

should be moved back to 4-3 DE for those looks, if a OLB starter is drafted, or any of the others step up.

by dgrid on Apr 6, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

That does not help if they are truly transitioning and drafting for a 3-4

by NHBillzFan on Apr 6, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I would be disappointed if Carrington if it came down to Carrington and Johnson competing for the spot and Carringtion didn’t win. He is one I want to see get a lot of playing time, what he needs most is experience. Troup as well for that matter, from what little I’ve seen now that football is his job he’s been working hard in the weight room and I’d like to see how that transfers onto the field. Got nothing against DE at 3 but I wouldn’t be surprised if Chix’s valued DL depth more then starters and wait till later in the draft to find it.

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by Robot Nixon on Apr 5, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

possibly. but hard to evaluate w/ no OTAs etc.
if possible, this would be cool: Carrington/Edwards – Troup – Williams

by dgrid on Apr 6, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Great post

Show’s what a glaring need DE is for this team. Especially a true 3-4 DE. CB is that far behind either. Still would love to see Von Miller picked at 3 since I think he is a huge upgrade over all incumbents, but would be a very happy Bills fan with Peterson. Not sure if I’m sold on a DE at 3. Def not sold on any of this years QB’s at 3.

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by nickdaniels on Apr 6, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions