Updated Buffalo Bills Depth Chart, Post-2011 NFL Draft
by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT
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PrintWith the 2011 NFL Draft in the books, we thought it was about time to take a look at an updated - and obviously projected, and very unofficial - Buffalo Bills depth chart. You'll find it after the jump, along with an explanation on why you won't find a few big names on the depth chart itself.
You'll notice several names missing from this depth chart. That has everything to do with the fact that NFL free agency has not occurred yet. Here's a breakdown of the names you'd have been looking for without this explanation.
- Drayton Florence (CB) and Akin Ayodele (ILB) are unrestricted free agents, and will be regardless of what the new CBA looks like.
- Paul Posluszny (ILB) and Donte Whitner (SS) were tendered restricted offers prior to the close of the 2010 league year. A new CBA is expected to render those tags moot, making them unrestricted free agents. It is also possible that the league reverts to 2010 rules if the lockout is permanently lifted, which could keep both players in Buffalo for another year.
- John McCargo (DE), Keith Ellison (ILB) and Ashton Youboty (CB) were in the same boat as Posluszny and Whitner, but were not tendered restricted offers. This serves as an indication that regardless of what the new CBA looks like, the chances of any of these players returning to the team are slim to none.
- Brian Brohm (QB), Quinton Ganther (RB) and Jonathan Stupar (TE) were scheduled for restricted free agency regardless of what the new CBA looks like. They did not receive tender offers prior to the close of the league year, which again serves as an indication that their chances of returning are not good.
| Pos. | Starter | Backup | Reserve | Reserve | Reserve |
| WR | 13 - St. Johnson | 11 - R. Parrish | 81 - M. Easley | 18 - N. Roosevelt | |
| LT | 77 - D. Bell | 71 - E. Wang | 66 - J. Watkins | ||
| LG | 67 - A. Levitre | 68 - C. Howard | 74 - C. Brown | ||
| C | 70 - E. Wood | 63 - G. Hangartner | |||
| RG | 60 - K. Urbik | 76 - C. Rinehart | |||
| RT | 79 - E. Pears | 61 - M. Wrotto | C. Hairston* | ||
| TE | 84 - S. Chandler | 80 - D. Martin | 89 - S. Nelson | 82 - M. Caussin | |
| WR | 83 - L. Evans | 86 - D. Nelson | 19 - D. Jones | 15 - F. Huggins | 17 - P. Hubbard |
| QB | 14 - R. Fitzpatrick | 10 - L. Brown | |||
| RB | 22 - F. Jackson | 21 - C. Spiller | 30 - J. Caulcrick | J. White* | |
| FB | 38 - C. McIntyre | ||||
| DE | 99 - M. Dareus* | 91 - Sp. Johnson | |||
| NT | 95 - K. Williams | 96 - T. Troup | 72 - K. Heard | M. Jasper* | |
| DE | 98 - D. Edwards | 92 - A. Carrington | |||
| SLB | 90 - C. Kelsay | 59 - A. Coleman | 45 - J. Kirlew | ||
| MLB | 54 - A. Davis | 57 - D. Batten | C. White* | ||
| WLB | 53 - R. Torbor | K. Sheppard* | |||
| JLB | 55 - S. Merriman | 52 - A. Moats | 58 - A. Maybin | ||
| LCB | 28 - L. McKelvin | 27 - R. Corner | |||
| SS | 37 - G. Wilson | 43 - B. Scott | D. Searcy* | ||
| FS | 31 - J. Byrd | 33 - J. Corto | |||
| RCB | 24 - T. McGee | A. Williams* | J. Rogers* | ||
| K | 9 - R. Lindell | ||||
| P | 8 - B. Moorman | ||||
| LS | 65 - G. Sanborn |
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Meatball?
Didn’t he play half DT and half DE? I pictured the new line would be: Williams and Dareus at DE and Troup plugging the middle. Maybe I was wrong.
Well, you’ll probably see that lineup, but that’s not what their depth chart will look like.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that one draft cannot fill all of our needs but
Eric Pears and Scott Chandler in the starting lineup….and Levi Brown the only QB behind Ryan Fitzpatrick….Free Agency cannot come quick enough.
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
Can someone try to rationalize our constant lack of addressing TE for me?
Off the top of my head, we have the least threatening group of TEs in the entire league and all of them are pretty one-dimensional. CHIX said had the opportunity presented itself at the right time blah blah blah… we could have had Stocker in the 4th or Williams in the 5th, instead the Bucs grab Stocker to play opposite Winslow and GB grabs DJ to backup Finley, Lee, maybe even Quarless and Crabtree. They didn’t hesitate and their TE production is miles ahead of ours before the draft. Would our offense not be immensely better if we had a huge TE solid at blocking AND getting downfield? A massive red zone target like so many teams have to exploit match ups on LBs? I know Gailey doesn’t seem to utilize TE much but why? Chandler smandler.
by BillsThickNThin on May 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Donald Lee was released by the Packers so maybe the Bills will try to pick him up
by brucesmithistheman on May 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it odd that after 2 CHIX drafts, there is exactly 1 projected starter for next year?
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
This is more what I think the depth chart will look like when training camp opens up. Carrington, Sheppard at bare minimum will compete to start, and Spiller will have a bigger role, as well.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
post camp depth chart contest
brian you should run a contest for people to predict the final depth chart before (if) the season kicks off and give away a Jasper jersey to the winner
Do you think Brian is like some loaded rich guy?
The guy works here full time and goes to school……I doubt he does either for a significant amount of cash.
And what if Jasper doesnt make the team out of camp? Then what?
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahem… I do not go to school. I have a day job, though! :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I thought someone mentioned about you going to school as a journalism major
of course……..I just assumed you were still going to school, and didnt even think about the fact that you could already be done.
My bad :-)
Either way………I still doubt you’re that rich enough to be buying random jerseys for contests ;-)
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha – I started this blog back in 2007 when I was, indeed, a junior in college. I’m a month away from three years at my current employer, and your hunch on my fundage is incredibly accurate, haha.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you could help that fundage situation by opening an official Rumblings Store.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
I am pretty sure SBNation would have something against that........
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when that was supposed to happen?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
jasper makes the team as the 3rd nt/goalline try to run it D
where oh where has aaron maybin gone oh where can he be
was picked so high and not one has seen oh where can maybin be
seriously where the hell is he ?
by Gpluehri on May 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also: you should also probably mention, in the interest of fairness, that 8 of those projected starters were brought in by the Nix regime.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, both valid points.
I just hope we don’t really have to start Eric Pears and Scott Chandler this year
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on May 1, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
regualr season starters
i have to think sheppard, carrington and hairston are going to start week one, if not then by week 3
I was under the impression Hairston was more developmental than that, with the chances of him starting at all this year at slim to none. I could be wrong. I see you on sheppard though. I think he’ll be starting very soon. Carrington probably won’t be in the starting lineup with our all-of-a-sudden pretty good defensive line, but he’ll see a lot of rotation playing time, I think.
Is it odd that after 2 CHIX drafts, there is exactly 1 projected starter for next year?
Not when you consider the draft choices. “Dire” straights might be slight hyperbole, but, the OL (and the O in general) situation is not good. If it isn’t addressed in FA, we are back to ‘10 production. That’s not progress. I asked yesterday, “how can you stand pat with the 28th(PPG) and 25th(YPG) ranked offense?” Yet, that’s pretty much what they’ve done.
CJ Spiller, F Jax, and J White cannot run through walls. With no pass blocking, TOP will again be an issue and will gas the “new/improved” defense. Dareus isn’t used to running back out onto the field after 3 plays. He’s used to a functioning, sustaining offense giving him a breather.
Not just a doom and gloom attitude…it’s fact. Fact that was witnessed in ’10. Other than a 3rd RB and reserve RT nothing on the “O” changed whatsoever. White and Hairston will not impact the “O” much if at all.
CHIX has myopic vision. No “pressing needs” on offense and no prospects from anywhere but the south. If nothing else, they are consistent.
OK, flail away at this “unpopular” opinion.
"Jasper, you sit on this side of the plane. Everyone else, find a seat on the other side"
by fansince60 on May 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’d bet that our T.O.P. is a lot lower then most of the offenses we are behind. Hard to put up tons of yards when your defense can’t get off the field.
Harooo
that's the point
it’s a balance. By drafting 95% defense, you are not establishing that balance. Quite the contrary.
"Jasper, you sit on this side of the plane. Everyone else, find a seat on the other side"
Forcing more three and outs will get your defense off the field. Sure the offense wasn’t a juggernaut each and every drive but they did put some long drives together at times. But I feel the defense wore itself out not because the offense couldn’t stay on the field but because they couldn’t stop their opponent exerting their will on the defense.
Harooo
Why complain about a defensive heavy draft?
Despite what you may think, our offense was at least functional, and is at the point where it can win us games (i.e. they can score more than one touchdown every other game unlike what we had with Dick Jauron). Our defense lost us games last year, and of course they weren’t the only reason we lost but they were our largest glaring weakness. Like it or not we have skill players at key positions and to have drafted any more than the one that we got would be stupid, and at best a marginal upgrade from what we have now at WR and RB. Right now that balance that you are talking about needing in order to be successful with (a point that I agree with you on 100%) isn’t there, and the biggest reason is our defense. Football teams aren’t built in a day (or one draft for that matter). The Bills needed to draft defense heavy to establish that balance.
I am a firm believer that our offense will be more statistically successful next year, because (knock on wood) teams won’t be able to run it on 3rd & 8 and get the first down like they were able to last year, so our offense will see the field more. This isn’t Jauron’s team anymore, where our defense was the stong point but would get worn down by playing so many minutes and then give up 100 yards in the fourth quarter (thereby ruining their statistical ranking, which is the basis of your argument). Our Offense is our srong point now. They score more touchdowns than Field Goals, they have strong depth and personnel (except on the right side of our O line and could upgrade at QB), for the first time in a long time the offense can win us games. Now it’s up to the defense to catch up, which is what this draft was all about.
Just be happy we finally have a draft where many of our needs were met, and without having to reach to acquire the depth the team needed.
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wow
Our Offense is our srong point now – they have strong depth and personnel
I cannot see how you make that statement. Really? I’m speechless.
"Jasper, you sit on this side of the plane. Everyone else, find a seat on the other side"
Keep in mind
This is in comparison to our defense. Not the league
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Even against the league we were middle of the pack on offense
Defense needs major help, only position on offense is tackle and QB. As much as people complained about fitz he threw for 3000 yards in 13 games or was it twelve
offensive line interior is pretty decent actually – tackles are a mess but those 3 interior positions are fine.
WR is fine – would not mine AJ Green but is still a solid group
RB is fine
TE, T and franchise QB are basically what needs most attention – offense is certainly our strong point. did you forget TOP against our defense? that our defense was the worst in the NFL in tons of categories?
When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.
by J2 on May 2, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
North,South, East Or West
Why does it matter were in the country a player hails from? Hopefully FA will fill some needs. Your opinion isn’t that “unpopular” :)
A QB is like a King in chess, if you don't have one you lose! Get a QB Buffalo!
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by buffalobacker on May 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked yesterday, "how can you stand pat with the 28th(PPG) and 25th(YPG) ranked offense?" Yet, that’s pretty much what they’ve done.
ummm – because the defense is worse… :)
When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.
by J2 on May 2, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Something to keep in mind
The Charger regime, with Nix playing a big part, didn’t address OLB until 2005, and LT until 2006. Their first draft was 2001.
The logic may be steady the ship, then add impact.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
I don't think there is any "maybe" about it.....that is the plan.
QB SMASHER KING KONG JASPER
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
About the OLB, they didn’t switch over to a 3-4 right away though. Merriman’s rookie year might have even been their first. They did go out and get Marcellus Wiley to play DE in their first offseason. They drafted Brees right away and Rivers after that. I’d say they did a much better job of addressing core positions in SD than Nix has so far in Buffalo.
"You mean @TWHITNER. It’s how he prefers to be referenced." - Jon Harrington
That's right
I remember now. They did get Wiley.
I think you’re right, though this Bills team had a lot more to start with than the 2000 Chargers.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
1 projected starter....
I’m hearing you……this year, Spiller has to score and troup has to play well or the honeymoon is over
PodunkO - The great post ender!
Good job......it's starting to come together even though we are still missing some key pieces
I wonder if J. Caulcrick should be listed as a FB? I am hoping we will see some possible Bills FA posts in the future??? Please :-)
QB SMASHER KING KONG JASPER
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Am I the only one....
Who assumes there’s a 99.9% chance Poz resigns? Or is there actually a possibility they are not very high on him and are going to let him walk if he does become a UFA?
I think both sides want Poz to be a Bill.......but if someone offers him stupid money, he could be gone.
QB SMASHER KING KONG JASPER
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
Yes. The chances are good. For the record, I would not be surprised if the Browns and Mr. Jauron heavily pursued him should he hit unrestricted free agency.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd.....very good point :-(
QB SMASHER KING KONG JASPER
Dareus will put you on you Dar-e-ass
If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
he won't hit it
he’ll be Buffalo’s top priority and I think the Bills are Poz’s. A guy who’s been here his whole career is more inclined to stay when the team is finally adding beasts around him.
But yes, Jauron would probably be a huge concern if he did hit it, though I am far more fearful of the Perry Fewell and the New York Giants who desperately need linebackers
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
by poz on May 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Poz is not leaving
and Nix made it clear that Florence is not gone yet either.
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
looking at this, I just realized that Sheppard may have been drafted partly as an insurance policy in case Poz isn’t re-signed…I shudder at the thought, and certainly hope we have BOTH as starters this season!!
I actually thought it was White who was the Poz insurance.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I keep thinking of White being the thumper next to Poz, where, I feel Shep is a more athletic-type ILB, playing the same position as Poz.
agree w/ this. piks 2,3,4 were all insurance policies.
I do hope Poz is re-signed, be interesting to see how ILB works out.
I can’t believe they’re all insurance policies. I think that they’ll all compete for playing time, and that Nix and Gailey believe that they’ll be starters eventually (maybe even sooner rather than later).
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I dont think Shep
is getting enough credit for being the physical player he is. Shep is a tough intense guy as well as a smart, instinctive player.
I really think we got the best ILB in the draft. I think he was brought in to play next to Poz.
The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee
by poz on May 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone but Torbor....
I couldn’t stand seeing him out of position so much last year!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
poz has to be the thumper...
thats what he is good at, but with bad LB next to him, Poz has to play coverage more… he is better when he can just attack, and this defense has not allowed him to do that. If Sheppard is better in converage that would be the best fit. Poz is hitting his prime in terms of strength after being in the league this long, and he might be better suited to attack the ball, with Sheppard watching the pass. That is the win-win scenario for me.
I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter
I'm afraid of what is
On the horizon. We could very well be worse this year than last. We lose several starters, and replace only one with a rookie. Which means backups of a 4-12 could now be stepping in to starter roles.
Such a scary situation not knowing who will be back, who will be available, and who we could actually obtain.
Heres hoping Luck. Pun intended.
by BFFL on May 1, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We haven’t lost them yet. Hang in there. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
not worried about losing any of our starters
the worst we could lose would be poz, followed by whitner, neither have been dominant. I would bet we retain poz and lose whitner.
I think George Wilson is better than Whitner anyways. He makes many more plays than Whitner does at least (2 INTs compared to Whitner’s 1, in much more limited playing time, they are equal in fumbles recovered). I just want to see what Wilson can do with a full season starting. I think he could really be something special for this team.
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
to eventually...
replace Whitner… The kid loves sticking it to people… LB mentality in a SS is just what the doctor ordered…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
4th rounders are generally mariginal
Wish we would have taken a shot on a few OT’s
Also
For depth. If Whitner goes we still need a warm body to replace him. And it’s 100 x’s better to put in a raw rookie who has the chance to become a baller than it is to bring in a veteran who can only give you so much. Besides, George Wilson is 30, it’s a shame that the last regime didn’t see what they had in Wilson until much too late, because he doesn’t have too many years of prime football left. So we have our starter in Wilson and we have our bright eyed rookie who can sit behind him and learn a thing or two about the NFL. Not a bad situation.
Remember: stacking bodies on bodies. Eventually you’re going to have enviable depth throughout your roster.
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
...a shame...?
I’m sure the Senator is crying all the way to the bank with his multi-million dollar contract and healthy 30 year-old knees.
Or is he the one who rides the bike?
Agreed
But that is why we have a draft each year, so the jones and snyders can pry away our main ingredients. We could do the same thing but not when draft picks are involved or even a loss in compensatory picks, we are rebuilding, we will lose before we win, when we win the whole attitude will change.
YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain. WE want to winn every year -- abayarde
well if that is the case, which I hope it isn’t, we might actually draft a QB. We might just get lucky
Joshd12
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BA. Recreation and Leisure Studies, 2011
Draft a QB?
Why when there are plenty of washed up FA’s and college FA’s to pick up?
(headdesk)
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i think it wouldve been a good idea to pick up Pat Devlin in the 7th. he doesnt look that bad
by BuffaloSpaniard on May 1, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Brian even said in his Jasper post that he could end up being nothing more than a camp body, so where’ s the harm in taking a flyer on Devlin when we have no developmental QB on the roster (No, I don’t see Levi Brown as a developmental QB). I was a supporter of the entire draft except our last pick not being Devlin.
i like the pick
the chances a 7th round qb makes a difference are much less then a seventh round big man
absoulutely, and we can still get Devlin as a RFA right?
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Than we have another draft full of early picks and get another 3 or 4 instant starters, I’d be better off with a 4-12 season than a 7-9 season where we’d have a bad pick and still wouldn’t be a good team yet. One of the main reasons I’m loving the CHIX “rebuild for the long term” era over the Jauron “scrap meaningless wins at the end of the season to keep my job” era
by billsfan_905 on May 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Worse comes to worst
We finish worse than last season and get Luck. But unlike last year, where I wanted to lose for the draft, I cannot go through routing against my team again because that was horrible
Kenny Powers is back!
I disagree
I see this team as one of the most improved from draft day.
I think people are really forgetting just how much we were run on last year – in pass happy league it was shockingly embarrassing and humiliating that we were run all over at will and could do nothing about it despite being in close games where one stop would have changed the outcome. And the blowouts that happened? Please dont tell me you;‘ve forgotten about the Jets stable of backs disgustingly plowing through us? Please dont tell me you’ve forgotten about Danny Woodhead doing whatever he wanted rushing and catching passes out of the backfield and taking small dump offs for huge gains.
This team got four potential starters all who would be instant run defending upgrades over their predecessors. We also got backups whose strengths are against the run in Chris White and the Mammoth.
The only way I see us being worse is if the holdout bars a training camp and these guys dont get to get out there and work on their NFL transition
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by poz on May 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
In which case
MANY NFL teams will be worse. We may be one of the least-worse teams, if that scenario happens.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
by Dyl on May 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely agree with this. I think CHIX saw what I saw every Sunday: that our biggest team weakness BY FAR was stopping the run. Then, we overcompensated and got beat on the pass (I thought our pass D was actually pretty good in obvious passing situations). Then, our defense was tired and got destroyed in the 4th quarter often—which negated some of the times when our offense had finally gotten in a groove and we would’ve had a chance.
And I think CHIX decided that we were going to take on that one issue in the draft. I couldn’t be more pleased.
Agreed!!!! and Rec!!!
every D player we drafted is a thumper, even Williams is very strong in run support… They all like to hit people!!! Obviously Dareus starts day one, and along with Kyle, draws double teams in certain situations, freeing up our backers more… Williams will at least start as the nickel, but might take over for TMac before long… Shep, even if we resign Poz, will then take Davis job quickly… And Searcy, while Wilson may hold the fort, will take the SS spot first chance he gets…
Of course there are others from this draft that will contribute, and could start in the future…. Overall, an excellent haul!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
i like the jasper pick in the 7th round
but it wouldve been nice to draft pat devlin in the 7th round. he doesnt look that bad
by BuffaloSpaniard on May 1, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
The 7th round comp picks can't be traded
So they end up being projects that a team wants to guarentee they get. Pat Devlin’s OK, but no better than Levi Brown, another project.
A team should ideally have a franchise starter, and good back-up, and a project. Buffalo has the two latter. Adding Devlin doesn’t make sense. Adding Billy Volek does, or even Brady Quinn. Someone who’s seen significant action.
Jasper probably doesn’t make the team. But he could be a porr man’s Jamal Williams. I agree with that type of pick in the 7th round: a project the team wants to take on.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
I would've preferred
Tolzien, at that point myself…
Hey Brian! Jasper at NT?
I know Meatball was beast at NT last year, and that you don’t want to mess with a good thing. But, how many lineman do you think Jasper can occupy?I think 2 with a chance of 3 lineman he can occupy. With Jasper clogging up the opponents line, Meatball and Dareus would have a better opportunity to pressure the backfield. Not to mention how much or LB’s would benefit. Or do you think Meatball would do a better job.
ALL SPILLER NO FILLER
Jasper is playing NT, wants to play NT and makes total sense for him to play NT. There will be no offensive line in his future.
He could be an excellent sleeper to make the team. Already a proven hard worker. January he weighs in at approximately 440lbs and is now down to 375lbs. They asked him to lose weight and he did. This is the type of guy that will make the final roster and could be a sleeper to contribute if he can pick up the playbook quick enough.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
I'm intrigued by his size, too...
but until I see some game tape of him steamrolling some O-Lineman, or pancaking some poor, defenseless little RB, I’m gonna only leave it at being intrigued….It’s fun to dream, though, ain’t it?
Are you serious?
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
by hoosier3 on May 1, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ya man he can just take up space
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by Jason Holodook on May 1, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if in fact you truly are serious and still aren’t messing with me, Kyle Williams went to the Pro Bowl for his play last year. He was by far the best player on the team, and one of the few that this team couldn’t afford to lose. Jasper, all 400 pounds of him, will be lucky just to make the team. I am not going to discount him yet, as you have pointed out he is an enormous human being and we have had late draft picks turn into gems before (Steve Johnson), but for every Steve Johnson there are 30 guys that play a couple years on a practice squad and then make a living doing something else. Your argument is probably the equivalent to people questioning if Ryan Mallett will beat out Tom Brady in New England, and even that would probably make more sense as Mallett has the talent to be a first round selection. If big fat guys could just walk onto a team and replace a Pro Bowl player then I wouldn’t see so many fat guys on the carts at Wal Mart picking up groceries, they would be suiting up on Sundays.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
I get why Jasper’s a fun story for Bills fans, but guys… he’s not going to make the team.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the only route any of those junky QBs would’ve taken to the final roster would’ve been the Levi Brown route. Yes, their QB situation looks pretty bleak, but Pat Devlin ain’t gonna fix anything.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
very late pick, uphill climb to make the team, and hes being talked about as supplanting both troup and williams on the nose? i dont quite get that train of thought.
although i think he does have an outside chance to make the team… they lost 2 Dlineman this offseason. one spot goes to dareus and the other goes to…. maybe this guy?
With all due respect, I disagree with you Brian. Thats like saying Pat Williams, who went undrafted, didnt have a chance to make the team. He not only made the team, he is a pro bowl player.
Wayyyyy too soon for you to make that of a bold prediction.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
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I’m all for the wait-and-see approach, and I hope it works out for the kid, because he’s a fun story. But some of the small-school scouts I’ve talked to were flabbergasted that he was drafted.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Small school scouts? Really?
Remember, not all scouts get it right. Otherwise guys like Pat Williams, London Fletcher, John Randle, Jason Peters, Jeff Saturday, etc would have been drafted. The biggest thing with every one of these examples is that they were willing to put in the work needed to earn a job on the roster. The reason I am keeping the faith with this kid is that he is already proving he is a hard worker by losing approx 65 lbs in 4 months, is agile and has the right attitude. Its a wait and see approach that I am taking. Worst case due to d-line numbers is that he gets put on the practice squad to learn more.
"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~
I’m aware of that, which is why I talked to more than one. And I’m also aware that the pile of UDFA-types that don’t make it is significantly bigger than the pile that does.
Also: Pat Williams and Jason Peters played Division I ball.
I’m waiting and seeing if he proves me wrong. I’m just not expecting anything. Like I said, I hope it works out for the kid.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thk-You
Sanity pervails. The kid is huge but that isn’t all it takes to play football at the pro level. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if he makes team.
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by buffalobacker on May 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
they were flabbergasted about a 7th rounder who weighs 400 lbs and runs a 5.6? Why? With only a handful of picks left he’s a great flier to take.
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by poz on May 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a lot of production, huge weight issues. The dude played between 430-440. He only got down under 400 when the Bills asked him to, as they were working him out and scouting him.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
but the fact he did it in such a short time is a good sign.....I only hope he is that coachable on the field as well
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That’s often how it happens when you weigh that much – rapid weight loss. The key will be maintaining it. Kid had something of an Oprah situation going on in school.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You are missing the point
He had the will to do it and do it the right way
On how he shed 70 lbs.:
I weighed in at 448 lbs. in January and it’s just been a lot of dedication and hard work. To be honest, just watch what you eat, drink water and treat your body right and it’s not that hard.
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So why wasn't he doing that all along?
It’s not like he was lost on some deserted island filled with nothing but cupcakes before. All college programs have programs and dietitians and trainers. Hell, lots of high schools do nowadays.
They talk about contract years in hockey and baseball all the time, there’s no guarantee that these past few months weren’t a “contract year” for Jasper. Hopefully I’m incredibly wrong but it wouldn’t be the first time. Mike Williams and Mike Williams both ate themselves out of the NFL.
How should I know....Maybe nobody asked him to before?
Look, I don’t know what this guy is going to do. All I know is that he has done what he was asked to do so far. I hope he keeps it up because we need to keep finding diamonds in the rough if we are going to accelerate this process.
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Could be that the program wanted him at that weight.
Give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ
by NordicBillsfan on May 1, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If he can move decently, why not? If he could I’d rather have him buff up and sit around 360 but I’m not a HC (or am I?).
Give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ
by NordicBillsfan on May 1, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it's not healthy?
Because “moving decently” shouldn’t be the goal for one of your players.
by twoeightnine on May 1, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, when he was looking to make it to the NFL. I hope that will allows him to maintain the weight.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL....so now he has "made it" in the NFL????
He barely has his foot in the door. He is not going to be able to live on his signing bonus for the rest of his life like a certain overrated QB ;-)
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Losing it in such a short time is nothing.
Four months / 40 pounds when you do nothing but eat, sleep, eat, breath, eat football? If he had taken off 100+ pounds or more than we’d be talking. Contestants on the Biggest Loser lose 10 pounds a week on average. Hell, I lost 15 pounds over 3 weeks just by giving up beer and hiking everyday.
And I lost 20 pounds thanks to a rather virulent stomach virus. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and how do they do that
Contestants on the Biggest Loser lose 10 pounds a week on average.
By learning how to eat proper and exercise. For the vast majority of people, losing weight is not rocket science. You just have to exercise and stop shoving food in your pie hole every waking minute of the day.
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by Joe P. on May 1, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Three facets to losing weight: diet, exercise, and attitude.
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on May 1, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Eat less more often!
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by buffalobacker on May 1, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hes huge though
his body structure, his head even is massive, and by the looks of the video, he is not sloppy fat. Looked very strong, and explosive with the little I saw. If he really runs a 5.6, that proves his athleticism. Losing 70lbs was probably higher percentage of what he could lose than a smaller framed person.
Point is, I think if this is an aggresive person, who actually does love football, not just the idea of getting paycheck for being big, then he could quite easily make the team.
I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter
what were these other scouts looking for?
Were they grading him as a OG or a DT?
Hard to get many sacks, and tackles(production) when you are playing OG right?
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just watched the video
damn, i sure hope we can teach this monster to play OL, he is a beast, that bench press of 495 at the end of the video looked effortless and the guy can move. It looked like there were some issues with him transferring to a 1a school. Does anyone have the real story? The website indicated it was because the coach left , but that does nto pass the smell test. Nobody pass on a 1a school for bethel because a coaching change.
Isn’t that what you said about Coleman last year?
But that’s why I love this place. The opinions go from Jasper taking up 3 blockers at a time to not even having a chance to make the team.
lol
by Undee on May 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree
We had one of our scouts actually stalk him for the last 2 years, i bet he at least makes the practice squad.
Im gonna have to disagree with you brian on Jasper
I believe he makes the team as the 3rd NT and short yardage defense and they cut Kellen Heard as I believe Jasper has a higher upside as heard and maybe even Troup it may take Jasper longer to reach it but I think its possible
where oh where has aaron maybin gone oh where can he be
was picked so high and not one has seen oh where can maybin be
seriously where the hell is he ?
by Gpluehri on May 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We really needed CB
I never realized how badly we needed CB depth until I saw this.
ALL SPILLER NO FILLER
I'm giving Chix the benefit of the doubt
on all decisions. Following blindly because I believe they are making this team fundamentally better. I don’t think a 4 win season is anything bills fans should be content with. You don’t need the first pick overall year after year to rebuild a fallen franchise. You need to be smart, savvy, decision makers that evaluate talent and project it to fit into your scheme irregardless of where you pick. Shame on those who opt to rebuild the way the lions have. I won’t stand for that.
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can johnny white block?
I think that has always been fred’s primary weakness. I was wondering if Johnny is better. His build would make you think he could have great leverage. Weak blocking rb’s tend to cost their qb’s a start or two on the season. Although i don’t thin fitz is very good. I DREAD our backups.
He's looked good in blitz pickup from what I've seen
Of course, that’s highlight videos and a game against LSU
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Butch Davis said he could pass block well...
And he could catch out of the backfield. The highlights showed him running a wheel route making a nice catch on the sideline. Maulvi said that on his pro day, when scouts watched him run, buzz started to build about his play as a gunner. Maulvi said he was the best gunner in this draft. Looking at our STs play from last year, he’ll start immediately at Gunner. I was very happy with the pick.
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 1, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha
My auto correct changed Mayock to Maulvi
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 1, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just hoping when FA starts we can cash in for once
this team would look so much better with one or two top tier free agents. maybe a zach miller and a good right tackle, neither should cost a fortune but would do wonders for this team. plus i really hope this team can find a way to keep florence for another couple years. he may take a stupid penalty occasionally but he’s also probably our best corner and i dont want to have to fill his spot with a rookie.
OLB Concerns Loom
Until he actually plays a few games, it’s probably prudent to assume Shawne Merriman won’t be a factor. Kelsay is not optimal. That leaves Moats, who could be strong. Would like to have seen Acho but really can’t complain b/c this appears to have been a very good draft. Anyway, looks like they’re starting to address this concern:
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2011/05/01/batten-could-be-on-move/
Maybe more help will come from FAs and UFAs.
I agree with you there...
I was certainly hoping for Acho or maybe McPhee/Beal later in the draft. Hopefully FA comes soon.
don't forget..
Coleman… He was turning into a Moats clone just before he got hurt…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
65 guys + Whitner and Poz
Assuming the league continues with a 53 man roster (might ease up to 55 depending on the CBA and conversion of preseason games to regular season games), we’re looking at 12-14 names who won’t be on the team come opening day.
Like cuts (9)
WR Huggins, Hubbard
OT Wang, Watkins
G Brown
TE Caussin
RB Caulcrick
NT Heard
LB Kirlew
Possible cuts (4)
WR Roosevelt
G Wrotto
LB Maybin
TE Nelson (hard to believe he couldn’t beat out the other TEs for playing time)
That round of cuts (made much later in the offseason, if it ever starts) would leave room for Poz. Someone else (Scott?) would have to go if Whitner was retained.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
Add Corto to that cut list – I don’t care how good a ST guy he is (and last year I don’t think he was very good at all), he can NOT play defense in the NFL. Other guys will be in the mix for the roster once FA begins too don’t forget. But hopefully some of the rookies we’re going to keep make it possible for Corto to be expendable. Can’t even believe I’m using that word to describe Corto – he’s just plain awful in all aspects in my opinion.
by BuffaloRepresent on May 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
they just extended his contract
corto is not getting cut
Nice list.
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by MattRichWarren on May 2, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s with Ralph’s winter coat/gloves and Nix’s winter vest/long sleeves? It’s the end of April!
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
He's 90+ years old
It could be 80 degrees and he’d be freezing
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I’ll buy that for Wilson but Nix is a comparitive young-un’.
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
yeah
Wilson is igneous rock and Nix is only as old as dirt.
"Jasper, you sit on this side of the plane. Everyone else, find a seat on the other side"
Hell just froze over
and the Bills are actually going to make the playoffs this year?
by twoeightnine on May 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It's freezing up here!
I was shocked to see folks in winter coats and hats Friday evening when I got into town from VA. Everyone in the Capitol district is in short sleeves.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
It was like 40 degrees on Saturday.
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by MattRichWarren on May 2, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
BLECH
Our holes just stand out and are jumping off the screen to punch me in the face.
OLB, TE and OT have to be the worst situations in the league at those positions, or bottom 3 at least. We have nothing in those areas. QB is nearly as bad, but I’ll be nice to Fitz because he’s at least competent.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Someday
I think that should be the Bills mantra. Haha.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Almost
Like the guy in Apocalypto, might be closer to the truth
It can always get worse. Let me tell you how.
if our RT pick works out
i think the team makes the playoffs in 2013, we a middling record in 2012. Again if the RT pick pans out the only gaps maybe OLB and we have made some bets there that may pan out. Fitz is not a star, but he is not a bum either. We will be solid everywhere if this years draft produces starters at DE, ILB and RT.
He can play all of those postions at once!
I think it’s time for a Michael Jasper Facts site.
by twoeightnine on May 1, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere those Asian groundkeeper guys are saying............
“They’re sh**tty!”
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 1, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL.......wrong sport :-)
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we still have free agency
and I think its better it comes after the draft for us.
I wouldn’t mind seeing us throw big money at OTs like Tyson Clabo and Jared Gaither – even if the latter does have injury questions.
Isnt Kamerion Wimbley and/or Tamba Hali a free agent?
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by poz on May 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
holes
A short term solution at RT is a reasonable expectation for free agency and it would pretty much be unacceptable if it isn’t addressed. I also hate the OLBs on the roster, but I’m resigned to the idea that they’re going to get 2011 to prove themselves based on the money already allocated to them. I expect this to be a major deficiency in 2011 and I suspect this position will be addressed high in the 2012 draft along with OT. I also agree that the TEs are garbage, but I get the feeling that Gailey doesn’t vale them. Foe that matter, the Buffalo Bills don’t vale them given 51 seasons without a superb player at the position. When Ernie Warlick and Pete Metzelaars are the best you can do in a half-century, i can only assume they’re not even trying.
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When will the Bills/NFL start selling team sweater vests?
Those would be perfect for Buddy.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
That is a freaking great idea......
The Chan Gailey inspired arm chair coach sweater vest!!!! I wonder if I could get my name on the back and matching old guy glasses????
And you know those talking fish that hang on the wall….Billy Bass, etc…..They should make a talking Nix head……“Show me the Baby”, “Don’t tell the Raiders I said that”, etc. When Russ Brandon has this stuff in the Bills shop, he better send me a check :-)
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If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
I’d buy that talking Nix head in a heartbeat.
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With pick #245 the Buffalo Bills select Michael Jasper (6'4" 395 lbs) Bethel University.
by Buffalo for Eternity on May 1, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
6 wr's tops
evans, johnson, parrish, easley, jones and nelson
Thinking outside the box a bit…what if we traded Parrish for a solid tight end, kept Roosevelt, then moved Spiller to slot receiver, leaving him on the field full-time with F Jackson?
I think Parrish is a good player, but now might be the perfect time to deal him, after he had his most dynamic season (first half). Realistically though, the guy has never scored more than 3 TD’s in a season.
Build a side together. One at a time.
etc., we would have to now deal with reality. None of those guys are thought of as the next Brady (not that they couldn’t be)
Even if the Bills got Gabbert, Newton ect, they wen’t thought of (by OBD) as the next Kelly.
at least we get to look forward to the ideal QB of the future. It’s not much. Add that to the amount of excitement Fitzy brings, and you have a typical Bills QB situation.
But I feel better about the QB situation than most years, because the draft did look cohesive, especially combined with last year. I think the Spiller pick gave most fans a first impression that wasn’t that accurate. They do look to be building a supporting cast for the next Brady. The year they get the QB (next) is the year they build the line up through the draft.
Who are S. Chandler at TE,
C. Brown at OG, M. Caussin at TE, K. Heard at DT, or J. Kirlew at LB? Did we get them at the end of the year last year? That’s the first time I’ve even heard those names.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
Scott Chandler, Colin Brown, Mike Caussin, Kellen Heard, Jammie Kirlew. The first four names were on the active roster last year. Kirlew was on the practice squad.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I see, I guess I didn’t see them on the sidelines or in the games.
P.S. Editor-in-Chief sounds pretty cool as a title, in a modest-yet-business-effective kind of way, but there’s got to be a cooler title out there for you. Something like Leashholder or Deathmaster.
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by Dyl on May 1, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Rumblelord might not be a great title
For this very reason.
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by Dyl on May 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Rumbleroar?
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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by MattRichWarren on May 2, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, Brian should be referred to as Professor Rumbledore.
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by kaisertown on May 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by NorCal BillsFan on May 1, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A few questions
Would Urbik really be considered a first-day camp starter at RG over Hangartner? Hang’s played guard in his NFL career, shouldn’t he be penciled in over a guy that was acquired strictly as depth?
Hasn’t Nix stated that Wang is officially a guard now instead of a tackle?
Wasn’t Caulcrick listed as a FB, not a HB? I know he took some short-yardage handoffs at tailback last year, but would that really be enough to qualify him as a halfback?
Defense makes sense, I’d want Moats to start over Kelsay but I realize A) it’s not going to happen and B) Moats doesn’t fit the strong side because he’s even weaker than Kelsay at coverage (if that is possible).
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
There’s a very real possibility that Hangartner gets first crack at RG. But they like Urbik, and I wanted to list Hangartner as a center, because that’s what I think he is. The gap between the two is not huge.
Wang will probably spend most of his time at guard, yes. But he’s really the only other LT prospect on the roster (I don’t count Watkins, because it’s very doubtful he makes the team).
Buddy Nix said pre-draft that the team wanted to give Caulcrick a shot at winning the third back job. He now, obviously, has pretty stiff competition for it.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Makes sense.
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by Dyl on May 1, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Urbik
Is Urbik’s injury supposed to allow him to to bready to even compete for a starting role in camp? If I’m not mistaken, he had a fairly serious ACL injury, didn’t he?
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
I think he’ll be ready, but it’s something to keep an eye on. Probably should’ve put Rinehart in first, now you mention it.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
2 FIRST ROUND PICKS IN 2012?????????
adam shefter of espn says buffalo has 2 1st round picks in 2012. any truth to that?? he cant be right
maybe we are finally
getting pity from the league haha
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by silverstreak3k on May 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
He’s just not very good with grammar. It should read like this.
Also not to be overlooked: Chargers, Bills and Browns. The Browns now have two first-round picks in 2012. #knowmoreintwoyears
instead of:
Also not to be overlooked: Chargers, Bills and Browns, who now have two first-round picks in 2012. #knowmoreintwoyears
It seems to me that Jasper has a solid chance to make the roster. His only competition appears to be Kellen Heard for the 3rd NT slot.
Give this a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ
The last big man with that type of athleticism, that came from a small school was Larry Allen from Sonoma State (Cal).
If Jasper is 1/10 the player that Allen was, he’s a gem.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
And you'd almost keep Jasper over Heard
just on principle.
Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks
by Dyl on May 1, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just on fear
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
by Der Jaeger on May 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Torbor
Has the move of Torbor to the inside been confirmed by OBD or is just something you feel makes sense? Personally, I think it’s an excellent idea to let Torbor and Davis play out the final seasons on their contract in the middle with the two rookies nipping on their heels as the season progresses.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
The latter. I have no idea what they plan to do with Torbor, but as you say, it makes more sense to play him inside.
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by Brian Galliford on May 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This list scares me
Even after what I thought was a damn good draft, this list proves to me that we need to resign several of our FA. Poz and Wilson are top priority, but if we let everyone else walk we might be in some trouble.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Offensive Line.....
I get the sense that Gailey thinks he and his staff can, coach up, offensive linemen and blocking Tight Ends. Essentially telling Buddy, don’t worry about the line, me & my coaches will worry about the line.
And I think that in one way it’s good, they believe in themselves and have a certain swagger as coaches and I like that. In this way, Gailey has proved to us last year that his staff can do this as the line and TEs block infinately better than the year before.
In another way, maybe a more realistic way, you can only take an eric pears so far….and come September we are gunna be sayin’ WTF? We can’t open running holes…
It will be depressing to me, come the end of the lockout, if we don’t aggressively pursue another tackle…
What do ya’ all think ?(practicing my south drawllllll)
gobills!
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on May 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
aggressively pursue OT....
what I mean by that, is a young player that is very good and costs lots O’ money…..not outrageous trhough obviously…..
what was the name of that lt. guard we gave zillions to? ouch! none of that please…..
overpay yes, 15% OK 400% nope……I think we have to overpay as we are now perenial losers…
PodunkO - The great post ender!
love to see us get palmer and gaither in draft pick trades on the sames day
maybe a 2nd for gaither and a 3rd for palmer
Why?
Palmer is older than, and as of last year equal to if not worse than Fitzpatrick? It wouldn’t really improve our QB situation in my opinion, but that may just be because I despise it when a player refuses to play for a team that drafted them and coached them up for their entire career (looking at you Favre).
Damn my eternal optimism, will I never learn?
NOPE, LET'S GO BUFFALO!
by Over the Moon on May 1, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
FA tackles...?
I heard an atlanta OT should be available, what about him?
I, like Buddy, cherish draft pix…..
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But What About A Back-up QB?
QB’s are fragile……Fitzpatrick, remarkably, was able to play most of the time he was a starter. One bad break and the Bill’s offense is totally sunk……Brohm has gotta be gone. Brown is the only one left. It’s fine they didn’t draft their “franchise” player, but, they’d better get somebody from free agency/trade/divine intervention. If not, all the improvement on defense may be for not.
QB
I also was feeling good about the draft until I saw the depth chart. There are so many unproven players the roster looks like the UDFA list. And the holes are startlingly large. Which means it probably makes more sense to insert a warm body as a backup QB so that if Fitz gets hurt, the Bills will simply be training Levi as a backup with a shot at Locker in 2012 as the ultimate objective. And as long as the Bill are competitive in a bunch of games, no one will care if we lose because we are on the ultimate rebuilding plan anyway.
Go big or go home.
we are in the afc east
they drafted in order to compete against the jets and pats.
they cannot compete against those teams until they stop the
run and get better against the pass….
really think, at the end of the day, they understood they need to
win games against the pats and jets, and without a defensive
upgrade plus, it would never happen….
the offense, on the other hand, under fitz, will get better, the
bills offensive line was better and will get better.
free agency offers the bills a chance at tight end and tackle.
they could still bring in more defensive help, but at least they
got dareus and sheppard, which is HUGE….
If, and this is a big if, there are OTAs and mincamp and training camp…. Hairston could be our opening day starter at RT. Just sayin.
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