Bills Changing Course On Danny Batten's Position Switch
Prior to the 2011 NFL Draft - and therefore well before the Buffalo Bills had added inside linebackers Kelvin Sheppard and Chris White to the roster - GM Buddy Nix told reporters that 2010 sixth-round pick Danny Batten would be changing positions. It would be an adjustment for Batten, who was a defensive end at South Dakota State (and projected best to outside linebacker in the Bills' 3-4 defense), and who missed the entirety of his rookie season with a shoulder injury.
With Sheppard and White on board, however, Nix appears to have changed his tone a bit with Batten's position switch.
"With two inside backers in this draft, people ask me what it means for someone like Danny Batten," Nix commented to Clark Judge post-draft. "Well, it's a possibility that Danny stay outside. Danny is 6-3 and 255, and he can play inside or out. When you go to a 3-4 scheme, you do a lot of projecting of guys in college who are edge rushers and had their hands on the ground. Danny has adjusted very well to standing up, and we think he has a bright future in either place, but his place could be outside now."
As a de facto rookie linebacker, Batten - a highly productive collegian that generated as much buzz prior to the season as his draft classmate, Arthur Moats - is going to be an intriguing background storyline when football starts up again. I like him outside, and hope he stays there, as he's got a chance to be a good Sam linebacker in Buffalo's system.
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high on batten
I think it goes to show you how high CHIX is on barren. They seem to want him to be on the team as a linebacker regardless of which position he plays. Notice how they never say stuff like “he’ll definitely give some competition for a position”. Seems like hes already secured a position on the team despite nothaving the opportunity to show much—if anything— due to injury. Makes me think this guys got more game than any of us think…
by Nepenthe88 on May 6, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm very high on him as well
Batten looked very good last offseason before getting injured. It’s also important to keep in mind that he is going to have very little competition at OLB this coming season (assuming there is one). Merriman remains a huge question mark, both in terms of whether he can stay healthy and whether he can regain his Pro Bowl form of several years ago (if the answer to both questions is yes then the Bills are going to have a terrific D this year). Moats is decent, but my sense is that Batten has a much higher upside. After that there is really nobody, unless you regard Kelsay as a legit 3-4 OLB. Yes, there’s Coleman, but he looks primarily like a good reserve player. So Batten should have a golden opportunity this year, and he could very well take full advantage of it.
I would like to see him outside
and with not really not knowing where we are with Merriman a little insurance? Which ILB position did they have Batten playing before he got hurt last year?
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batten… phone changed it to barren. Stupid phone
by Nepenthe88 on May 6, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lol
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by buffalobacker on May 6, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very good
you got to like his pass rushing ability from college and the fact that he can implement it from the OLB stand point Vs ILB seems more consistent with what he brings. Waiting for it to unfold.
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Just want to point out
That’s a great photo. It looks like he caught the running back in mid-air, which I guess he did.
Roster spot battle Aaron Maybin vs. Antonio Coleman
A lot of people feel UDFA Antonio Coleman make the roster because of Danny Batten’s injury and placement on IR last season. Coleman didn’t dress for many games, playing in 8 last year and didn’t have anything remarkable about his season last year where only Moats was the OLB who produced much of a pass rush or something in the sack department.
This year’s battle will be interesting as it will be intriguing to see if Batten is much more productive than Coleman (which is what many are assuming), then the battle turns into Coleman vs. Maybin…
Most of us are ready to complete write off Maybin (and judging by Nix’s comments he might be too without a drastic turn around), but I think this will be an intriguing battle as both have a lot to prove and enough motivation to try to make the roster. Merriman is a big question mark and we know that Kelsay is on the decline. So if any of our younger OLB want to take this opportunity and run with it. This is the off-season/pre-season to do it.
Good points. But I, for one, am not that intrigued by this roster spot battle.
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Well
If Maybin gets cuts it wouldnt be a suprise, I loved watching SEC Coleman in college
BUT
If Maybin does what it takes to make the team and is productive and OLB isn’t a concern that I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS
I'm only intrigued by Batten
He’s the only one we haven’t seen yet, and therefore holds the allure of a potential impact player. I really hope he can contribute and help us at this putrid position.
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Get your eleven best players on the field.
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Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on May 6, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Batten on the outside is the best for him and the team....
Although, I was intrigued by the possibility of Batten playing the big, thumper role at ILB, I think his better position might be OLB, at least for now. Since none of us has seen Batten play any meaningful snaps in the pros (preseason included), it’s tough to figure out if he has the quickness to play on the edge and rush the passer. I don’t see him playing the SOLB position unless he’s bulked up a bit to play over the TE and funnel the junk back inside, but it’s possible.
The playing time is probably more available at OLB, which benefits both the player and the team, especially if Batten can add sort of pass rush help. There is a major question mark (Merriman), a bad fit (Kelsay, to be nice), a group of average prospects (Moats, Coleman, and even Jammie Kerlew and John Russell), a journeyman tweener (Torbor) and a nobody (Maybin). Playing time is certainly out there to be had if Batten can step up. In fact, he really has a chance to carve a niche and be a sizable part of this defense.
At ILB, they added the two rookies with extensive experience inside, they’ll likely re-up Poz, have a solid vet in Davis and could re-sign Ayodele. Torbor could also play inside. When the Bills go 4-3 or nickel/dime, even less PT would be available. There really wasn’t any room left at this inn for a guy to make the switch inside, IMO.
I think Batten will have a great opportunity to make a name for himself. There is certainly the need for a play to step up and show he can rush the passer and help against the run. Even as a rotational player, he could have a big role if he can stay healthy. I really hope his shoulder doesn’t plague his progress or potential for us.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Also
To elaborate on Jammie Kirlew, I think he has a real shot to make the team with a strong summer (if there is one). He was a productive DE in college for Indiana against Big 10 competition and has pretty good size for OLB. His problem is a lack of quickness and explosiveness. In highlight/draft videos, he showed a quality spin move and a duck and swim move that was very effective. He may not be quick enough to accomplish that at this level, but he’s certainly a guy worth giving a shot to. If he has worked on improving that quickness, he has a shot to stick.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
I thought early reports were Batten was decent in coverage out of the OLB position. Am I confusing him with someone else? I know we love pass rush, but a guy who could drop into coverage without looking lost wouldnt hurt.
There’s a difference between “athletic enough to drop and not look like he wants to cry” and “decent in coverage.” Batten is inexperienced in that area. :)
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
all the talk...
ALl this talk that Buddy and Chan have used on Batten makes me curious. I woul dreally liek to see him play. was having good camp last year. Hope he isn;t an injury prone dude. Sounds excting and had good size outside!
No...
to Ayodele, and I think we’ll see Torbor as one of the early cuts in camp unless we have injuries…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
It's like the Bills get a couple extra draft picks this (eventual?) season.
Batten and Easley. May their seasons pan out injury-free.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on May 6, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Haha
May their seasons pan injure-free. May they always be courageous, stand upright and strong. May they stay forever young….
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Who’s singing? Bob Dylan or Rod Stewart?
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on May 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
One more thing
I wonder if Batten and Fitz knew each other prior to their time in Buffalo, since both are from Gilbert, AZ…..
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
hey, you’re from china? i knew a guy from china once. hey, wong, do you know this guy?
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Pretty sure China’s a bit bigger than Gilbert, AZ.
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by Brian Galliford on May 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s unAmerican!
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on May 6, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I would guess
But I’ve never been to Gilbert, so I can’t comment on that fact.
I guess Gilbert has a little over 200,000 people, so yeah, they probably didn’t know each other, but may have known of each other prior to the Buffalo connection. Different high schools, too.
And jeesh prophet, I was just thinking out loud since both are from some random city in Arizona!
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Gilbert
I’ve been there, have relatives that live there. It your typical suburban sprawl of a place in the desert of AZ. There’s a pretty big Mormon population there too, which tends to be a close knit community. Are either Mormons? Hope Batten stays healthy too…his measurables and production (college albiet a small school) were both very good. Stay healthy and good luck Danny!
by buffaloparks on May 6, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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A QB is like a King in chess, if you don't have one you lose! Get a QB Buffalo!
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by buffalobacker on May 6, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gilbert AZ
it is a suburb of Phoenix. It is large enough not to know everyone. I have a cousin who lives in Gilbert.
Let the offseason begin
OLB battle
Merriman seems to be a sure fire injury. I have a few Chargers fans who are good friends of mine and they seemed to be very happy to finally get rid of him, of course they’ve seen some bad days as well. I just find it entertaining that we are relying so heavily on late draft picks to be major contributors for our team. It would be nice to bring in some talent as I am not as high on Moats as most people are.
I do like Moats but he didn’t impress me as much as he has others. Kelsay needs to be replaced since he had numerous chances last year to make plays in the backfield and did not have the agility to make the play.
This being said, I am willing to bet a lot that our defense will be better than it was last year but can anyone tell me that outside of a franchise QB or a very good OT that they want to address any position more than OLB in next years draft (or thru FA)? I love these guys and think that they will contribute but let’s be honest with ourselves, we are hoping for major help from many unknowns.
Also I still hate Buffalo for drafting Maybin over Orakpo. I was shocked when he fell to us and I was pissed when I saw Maybin taken instead. All in all I am excited for this year since the defense is wayyy better this year than it was last.
way to continue to bring it back up. i think we should continue discussing the mike williams draft, too. you know, now that he’s back out of football.
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Difference is when Mike Williams came out of college he was considered a great OT prospect. He did not give up a sack in college and was considered to be a top 5 pick. When Orakpo came out he was also thought to be a top 5 pick. He was bigger and much more talented than Maybin.
I know there’s nothing that can be done but the point is the Williams disaster was much harder to see coming than the Maybin fiasco.
I was having a debate with somone about this a couple weeks ago. Moving Batten inside just didn’t make much sense…it felt like they were planning on doing it simply because of the talent deficiency at ILB. I think Batten, as an experienced edge rusher belongs on the outside where his unseen pass rushing skills will theoretically serve him best.
THAT is why i'm serious.
He cant be the SAM.............
Kelsay is the one and only SAM!!!!!!!
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on May 6, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I am Sam, Sam I am.
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by Buffalo Stro on May 6, 2011 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Batten
I’ve never thought he should be moved inside. Even though he is 255, he is not “thick”. I would think his body type is more condusive to playing outside anyway, so I feel it’s a good move recognizing that by the Bills. I thought they switched him out of desperation because they originally projected him as an OLB. Maybe that means they have every intention of signing Posluzny which would give them Posluzny, White, Sheppard and Davis inside
This is a great decision by Buffalo. I thought it was a little nuts that they were even considering moving him inside to a less important position without really giving him a look as a pass rusher. For a player with no track record, but some physical ability (like Batten), moving inside to be a thumper ILB should only be a back up plan if plan A fails (plan A being, hope he develops into a dominant pass rusher).
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